Video Podcast! The Osirion at Abydos, and the Valley Temple at Giza with Hugh Newman and Snake Bros!

[Music] hello all and welcome back to uncharted x this is ben and i have another video swap cast for you today with a detailed look at a couple of just the most megalithic sights that you can find in egypt this was a very interesting couple of hours that we spent uh the snake brothers colin russ and i sat down with hugh newman from megalithomania and we got into a detailed look at the valley temple at giza as well as the assyrian at abados both of these sites have some similarities in kind of their megalithic construction and the way their pillars were formed uh the fact that they are essentially subterranean they had multiple levels but they also have some unique features and differences too and in this video we take a good long look around both of these sites and discuss them in detail as both you and i have been to these sites a number of times i'm sure plenty of you know who hugh newman is i did do a podcast with him recently on my channel he runs the excellent megalithomania uk youtube channel as well as the megalithomania dot co dot uk website just a quick note on these videos i know i've been producing quite a lot of swap casts and podcasts recently they've been just tremendous fun to do and i very much appreciate everybody's time in sitting down and talking with me i also think it's a good way to share a very detailed look at some of these sites all of the little nooks and crannies and the things that go into kind of filming there for a few hours but at the same time i do want to get back to my more regular produced mini documentary style of videos so that's my intention the next video you will see on this channel will be i guess another chapter in my advanced technology series taking a close look at what's been discovered under the ground at sacara and beneath the step pyramid and going forward i hope to have a bit more of a balance between the two i do have a couple of hours of interviews that i did in the last couple of weeks with randall carlson but i will release that one after i get my next mini documentary video out in any case i very much hope you enjoy this podcast and i'll see you guys in the next one cheers all right and welcome back ladies and gentlemen to another swap cast with ben from uncharted x and this time we are joined by hugh newman of mechalithomania he's also done lots of other projects i've been following his work for years so it's great to have you on hugh thanks so much for joining us man this is great yeah that's fantastic i'm really looking forward to this yeah so i think ben's got footage planned for what are we looking at ben what are we going through today so yeah we got a couple good ones today uh i did also want to say hi to you and then that we did a recently uh did a chat on both of our on my channel i think it's on your channel as well we did a podcast so i have only just uh sort of recently met hugh and very much enjoyed um chatting with with him and yeah well today uh and it's i thought you'd be a great one i know you've been to these places a bunch of times and you have videos on these as well on your channel but i figured we'd take a look at the valley temple at giza and then also the assyrian both kind of similar but different in a lot of ways but yeah both some just interesting massive megalithic structures all right excellent let me uh excellent and yeah i should have mentioned that uh i just listened to the podcast you guys did together oh yeah that was good i loved it so everybody should go check that out for sure yeah i i i enjoyed it i haven't listened to that one yet what get out of here sorry man you're fired i didn't do my homework this week yeah i think i think i think i'm actually recording my microphone this time too so all right trying to screw up again hold on follow in everyone's footsteps yeah yeah prime move record yourself yeah so what are we looking at we're starting here this is outside the valley temple it is ancient chairs yeah let me roll the video uh in fact i love this shot too this is probably one of my favorite shots i use this one all the time but it's it's the panning walk in front of where the valley temple sits which obviously you can probably tell from the background uh fairly uh well-known spot yeah um yeah this sits right at the end so this is the the the structure that's connected to the causeway that runs to the the second pyramid you can see there on the left of the screen this this is the temple that kind of sits at the bottom uh called the valley temple because it sort of slopes down and often pyramid structures have these temples in a valley in front of them um yeah real real interesting location obviously i mean i'm sure many people know a lot about this but it's uh we'll get in and take a close look at all the different aspects of it at least many of them but as you can tell kind of the interior core of its bit made up of these just gigantic blocks of limestone yeah and they look very heavily weathered and we'll take a closer look at them and talk more about them as we go but then the other thing to note is that it was all cased in in granite so all that limestone has been cased in granite the interior structure is cased in granite and uh you know at a high level the other the other part to mention here is that it's it's the remnants of what was here there was quite a bit more to it at some point in the past so i have a couple of structural questions uh what's the did they flatten the bedrock there uh you know the original builders when they were putting these blocks there how did they make that spot did they have to flatten things you know to make the foundations i think a lot i think a lot of it was was uh was they kind of like landscaped a lot in this area i mean one of the things with this as we go to the front of the valley temple here in the front of the sphinx temple we actually have that whole area which you can just see now was was water there's actually sort of megalithic bridges going over and so water came up very close to this particular spot um and the interesting thing is about that is that the causeway coming down from the second pyramid which comes down to the whole sphinx and valley temple that appears to be i believe that's older i think quite a few people agree with me on that then maybe even older maybe the origin point of the survey of the whole uh giza plateau in effect because if you look at the causeway from the great pyramid it goes much further almost into the local village of nazalet um and that would have then joined the water much further away so that suggests that causeway and any temples were there then were built later and so because of the water coming in much closer to the valley temple does suggest a possible extreme or older you know site or older part of the site and then when you you know you look at some of these blocks here we're looking kind of at the part of the sphinx temple here i believe they are gigantic and the ones on the outside of the valley temple these limestone blocks and also the other temple up near the second pyramid that the stones are just ridiculous i mean seriously megalithic we're talking hundred ton 200 ton estimates in some cases maybe more and so number one you know why did they why were they using such big stones number two how do they move them how do they quarry and move them and how do you lift them up that high i mean it's utterly remarkable and then you go then it's almost like you know from what i can what i've seen there you know the the granite is almost like being shaped to fit round these ruined limestone blocks you know possibly on the outside and inside like in honor of this earlier temple so the granite maybe later there's debate about this and we can talk about this as we go further into the temple we'll see more examples but you see these pieces here for instance we're looking at these beautiful kind of curved pieces of the granite on the bottom against these huge limestone blocks and you know these curved granite pieces maybe you know this bill but they thought to be on top going across the top of the temple outside exactly because you know so it has a granite it would have had a granite outer and inner of the valley valley temple and the older limestone mega bloks would have been there earlier and they kind of built around it so i find that fascinating yeah there's a there's yeah there's a a bunch of points to make about that that you're right i think the granite on the outside um well just the location originally in fact in fact one of the things that's really interesting about this because we will come i think i don't have footage of this later but i just wanted to mention while we're at the front here that and this is something that john anthony west reported at one point was that whether and this goes to the landscaping and the the foundation question but they dr they did drill down in front of this so for one i think they did find there is some constructed stone here they did find a boat a remnants of a boat they reburied but the other thing that's interesting i think they went they drilled down around 100 feet down here and there's still at one point i don't know if i've got it in my footage but i've got photos of it there's still like the the hole where they did a core drill out the front here and it went down something like 100 feet and they found granite which is obviously this is a limestock limestone outcropping so what is granite doing down there which is kind of interesting maybe there's there's so it lends to the idea that there's possibly structures and things underneath you know as as there are and easily a hundred feet underneath the causeway like the the osiris shaft and there's and obviously the sphinx is there and uh all of that sits you know i think there's quite a bit that could be found if we really went looking uh underneath the causeway and underneath this whole area um well yeah one of the things um i've come across when i've been researching this is um i'm very i'm a big fan of robert temple yeah he's written a book called uh the sphinx mystery and also egyptian dawn and he's spoken at a conference i've had lots of conversations with him many times and and he's found he's been on top of the valley temple he's climbed on top and he's also been underneath parts of it as well and in places no one else has been and he's found what he thinks are like areas where ropes would go down deep into the ground and they would yeah what they were used for is unclear but he's found a few different spots that's that yeah yeah that does that conduit thing right yeah and there's evidence of like the scraping of the rope on the granite and the limestone suggesting they were doing something deep in the ground perhaps building like you you suggested possible other chambers that have yet to be unearthed um so there's little anomalies like that he picked up on and then then when you go on top of it and you actually look on top you actually see uh keystone cuts as well you see you see like uh it's traditional egyptian and peruvian too and i think many other places um so they were you know had all these different styles of uh working and yeah i mean yeah some of these granite pieces were looking a are pretty intense looking look at that beautiful yeah that's almost like polished aren't they yeah you have you have those granite boxes i mean they're in the ground at the osiris shaft so we know they were putting boxes underneath the ground as well and some of them are fairly large and actually you mentioned earlier too that there's a temple that sits up at the actual pyramid complex up at the foot of kind of the second pyramid uh that is as big as this site and i think we did a i've got a video where we sort of paced it off and did a rough calculation with yusuf and yeah you're talking like 100 120 ton blocks of limestone and same sort of massive stuff up near the pyramid in fact at the end of this too i've got a couple other sites that look look just like this and i with less granite i think you know these weren't the only locations that they that the ancients were doing work like this and so this is this is we cut away to kind of the left side of the of the outside of the of the valley temple here so you can see what's left of some of these i don't know what to call them like these curved balustrade almost box uh blocks and like you said here i think these were up the top but this is some incredible work i mean you kind of get an interesting perspective on the the precise nature of the curvature and there's like incredibly heavily weathered limestone pieces lying around too which is interesting i mean they're they're the limestone blocks in the wall are very heavily weathered but there's pieces on the ground there that i mean unless unless somebody has busted those to look like that jimmy yeah and they're just well it's been out in the weather for forever yeah it's it's really interesting there's and there's even up at the the the uh structure next to the pyramid uh it's even almost more weathered you've got these just there's some tremendous erosion that's happened to the limestone and the interesting thing about i think hugh mentioned as well is that it seems like an and and you know uh robert uh well i think bovale as well as robert shock have have come to the conclusion that this granite was shaped to fit the weathered limestone and in fact we'll see it as we go around the corner i've actually got a shot of where he he looked at it and figured this out so the idea is that the back of these granite blocks and as you said it it cased all of these stones so we had an outer and an inner layer of granite on both sides of this limestone but there's there's ever some evidence suggest that the backside of these granite blocks were actually shaped to fit the eroded limestone blocks which is yeah i don't want to interrupt you ben but can you you were can you back it up to where you were looking up at the wall the limestone wall there a second it was yeah and 10 15 seconds ago yeah let me do this here there was something i saw there i want to point out up here keep going back yeah yeah okay yeah that's it okay go forward again you want the back side i'll pause it here yeah i need to watch the there we go okay yeah go forward let me let go forward i know you guys are dealing with a little bit of lag yeah right there this just cut out space or something yeah what is that yeah look at that hmm yeah it goes across two blocks this is beam right there or maybe it's not a seam maybe it's just part of the limestone yeah well one of the one of the things i've noticed with these blocks in this particular temple is what you get a bow back as well um in the main temple there there even those limestone which has got severe weathering you can't fit like a you know a credit card or a paper between the scenes even in the limestone not just in the granite you know in the limestone and so and one of the other things you can start to see it here maybe we'll see more when we see more footage that there's a polygonal aspect to this as well oh yeah the line even the mega limestone blocks not a minute clearly we see that with the granite when we go inside the temple but you get that with the huge blocks as well and they're kind of put together but it's really hard to you've got to really look carefully and catch it at the right light to kind of actually see the seams and the way they're shaped and they're kind of curved curved inner corners as well and so there's a lot of detail which you don't unless you really know really carefully take a look you don't see it and obviously when it was new you know however long ago that was um you would it would have almost been like uh you know like the the original casing of the great pyramid it would have been like clear perfect really almost shiny you know in some respects and that's a good point too because a lot of the finish in here is quite rough on the outside and people think it was it was kind of deliberately done that way but there's it's almost like that that outer casing layer of the the very fine polished stone has has has fallen off it's it's been damaged or there's an effect on the stone which is an interesting theory if you if you consider maybe there's a reason that this this this structure was cased uh and you know if you saw some of the stuff at karnak where there was an effect to some of the granite i think this was all very very uh shiny and polished and uh and well finished uh earlier but it's it's this and you can see some little pieces of it here and there on the curve blocks you can see them this is the first time jimmy's seen it he was astounded by it and you know some of these i'm astounded by this i mean yeah like 40 tons 50 tons probably some of these big blocks um tremendous is that cornering this is the book gets kind of crazy i mean just to just be able to do that and create that um you know even if you're doing that with like lego sized blocks that would be quite hard to you know manage but this is kind of crazy and obviously we have the comparisons with peru mark cusco and so forth um but here they're kind of mostly kind of flat rather than sort of puffy um but yeah i mean just the the detail of this i mean when i've been there with youssef aoian as well he's he we're still like bewildered we're still trying to work it out because copper tools really um to create this kind of accuracy and precision um and i think you'll see here this is the first part you can't maybe you can't really tell but there there's a lot of mirroring going on so one wall uh you get almost a mirrored version on the other wall yeah and it's not it's not exactly the same every time they have artistic kind of differences but it's generally doing that and uh this is something you find throughout this particular uh temple especially when we get into the main part of the interior and what are the little alcoves like i saw at a little like a little inset hole on the i guess on the left wall when you're walking in yeah there's a few of those about actually i mean i mean some i mean when we get inside there the larger alcoves were where supposedly these statues was a diorite statues of cafe were found and the larger one was found in the pit but nobody really knows what they're for i mean were they acoustic were they kind of tuning the temple or was it actually you know a ceremonial ritual thing would they replace something there um it's really unclear i mean i mean the mystery of egypt although we're told so much by the egyptologist of what what really was going on and when it was happening we don't know a lot of it is guesswork we all know that so um so again our speculations could be as valid as any academics um egyptologist yeah it's it's just it's a giant story that we're all putting together based on the same amount of evidence i just and i'll just i'll just throw this in here while we're going to pause it just to show you that it's an example of the finished surface here the flat worked surface and how it's it's different and this has all been flaked off or fallen off or somehow either it's damaged or whatever but i suspect this is what all of the walls were like but today you just get that rough finish but most i think originally they were they were flat and smooth and you can kind of see how it's the difference yeah but yeah you're right you're right here there's there's people we do this tends to be put in textbooks and taught in school as if it's factor these days and it's very much not the case we're all you know particularly these early early parts of of of history you know it's it's a we have a limited set of information that we're working with and um you know it's a it's i think as you say i mean other interpretations i think are as just as valid as uh as the mainstream it seems like an awful lot of work to uh go in and take off all that polish so if this is naturally just eroded away off that granite how long would that process take i don't yeah it shouldn't i mean i don't know these ones here are giant aren't they these are absolutely hugely sloping blocks on the front here massive and um you know it's just i just find it so and then we started we started to see the alabaster floor in a moment as well yeah we'll get in the mystery i think i took i wanted on this trip this was the footage this is footage from last year end of last year and i wanted we i was like we're not going in yet i wanted to take a look on the right hand side here uh and a close look so in this area in front with these floor tiles i believe is where they drilled and keep your eye open for like a tube sticking out of the ground because that's where they did a drill uh i feel like i've got it somewhere but this it got it extends further down here and i think it turns into i don't know is is it is this the sphinx temple here or is the sphinx temple that small structure that's next to like the left foreport of the sphinx or is this the does this does this structure kind of flow into the sphinx temple this is the sphinx temple and the valley temple are kind of directly next to each other like a joy joining um but you know it's thought that with the sphinx temple is number one it's completely encased it's mainly obvious as you know it's mainly limestone um and it's been cut out i mean basically it's been almost like it has no entry had no original entrance to it which is odd especially it certainly didn't have an entrance coming in from the area of the sphinx so that's strange so people question what that really means also inside it you have these huge pillars almost like megaliths standing upright and i think in pairs in some cases there is granite in there as well there are elements of granite i mean i've not i've never been able to go in there i've tried a few times but i've never never actually got in but uh robert temple has and following his work um he's found all these anomalies with both these temples really you know and the fact that he he thinks you know he thinks they could be like separate temples as well possibly built different times even though the limestone is quite similar this whole area you're looking at here this this is the whole um area that would have been probably had some water in it as well it would have come right up to here it would have been canals coming in from the nile which would have been fairly close when this was supposedly built like a few thousand bc yeah um but yeah and uh this so this would have been mostly probably covered in water yeah i'm just zooming in because i believe this here might be where they drilled down and they found granite this this little yeah this is the little prong sticking up um but yeah as you say this this was probably full of water uh it would have led down to the the original i guess nile let me just uh make that go back to the correct and if they were that's interesting because if they drilled there and they found granite which could be evidence of boxes or chambers or something in a complex below ground and yet they had filled that area with water by digging a canal that's like those underground chambers would also have been filled i don't know possibly yeah yeah because if it's limestone the water's gonna you know unless they sealed it somehow the water is gonna seep through yeah yeah or like a granite structure you're right it would if it was a water table i mean we have the water table issues there today you go down to 100 feet and that that's you know the osiris shaft is full of is at the bottom is full of water and they have that problem with the sphinx too right they have to pump the allegedly that's what the they were doing no drilling one of one of the many projects where they've been drilling under the sphinx that don't really get um right talked about or acknowledged so yeah we were the water guy just pumping the water in yeah yeah i mean they've been they've been digging under there since the 70s i mean there's you've got footage of layner and hawas in the 70s going there let's uh we'll move forward there's there's there's lots of these little caves and entrances into the into the uh the uh the limestone and these blocks that are just fascinating um you know those areas you wish you could you could get into and explore but uh rarely ever are allowed but you find these all over the place at giza they tend to drift off into the into the bedrock somewhere and you never quite know uh where they go in fact you have the same thing happening here as we'll see on the in the in the in the temple itself as we go up towards the sphinx there's a couple of locked doors that i've um are very interesting and i've never seen the other side of let me uh so before we move past the tiles on the ground there that what were those like 10 feet on the side in some cases oh yeah these are they're huge um yeah much like up on the the uh much like i think these are you've definitely got some tiles going on here uh although there's lots of sand there i mean those are that's those are huge pieces well yeah if you look at the ones up at the at the uh at the plateau at the pyramids particularly the second pyramid in fact you mentioned earlier like the second period i i my i the more i think about it the more i think that there's a good chance that the the huff so-called kafra pyramid the second pyramid may be the oldest because it's in the center it's connected to the sphinx in these areas where we have a lot of pretty hard evidence that these structures are older but it's also the most megalithic the biggest blocks in the foundation we i think we did the episode looking at it and if you look at the floor tiles up there some of those are probably a meter maybe a little more thick and and they're also three-dimensionally interlocking with the bedrock beneath them so they they interlock with each other everything you look at here is no mortar like it's all like as as you said you can't fit a credit card in between them uh incredible precision in in the work but the other thing is the same thing applies to the bedrock and the tiles and the bedrock the foundation layer i think it's one of the most remarkable parts of giza and people just walk right over it looking at the pyramids or the you know these other structures but some of the the engineering uh true wonder is kind of under your feet yeah and so it's you know this is interesting to me because i'm just thinking construction wise so if you're if you've already cut you've moved the sand away and you've cut down to the bedrock you've got a foundation so why would you bring in gigantic tiles of some other material unless there's a reason for that you see what i'm saying like if you've already cut down to the limestone bedrock and you've flattened it why would you need tiles of alabaster or limestone or whatever they are yeah it seemed to be super important to to lock these structures in you know they just there was this what would seem to be a functional requirement to to interlock this stuff so firmly that you know it and and why you know if it's not if it is it if these structures so it leads you down the path thinking was it were they resonating were they activated somehow it was very important that they were solidly locked and to the earth like that so it's you know you've you've hollowed out this you've flattened this uh you know this this area of bedrock although in cases in the pyramids themselves too they're not not just the second pyramid but also the the main pyramid it's not flat like there's there's parts of it are actually made from bedrock so it's you've got tiles going into the ground but you've also got the ground coming up and and it's all locked together uh even even on the the like the great pyramid there's a few blocks here and there of its of its first course that are actually formed from the bedrock and like straight up out of the bedrock yeah so it's it's a mystery but i don't know it seemed real important to lock these things into the ground so here we go we've kind of walked into the structure now on the inside and this is this is kind of where it gets interesting isn't it we're seeing the cornering again and then the joins look at that cornering it's crazy it's amazing i mean just why i mean why do them obviously they want to lock it in place there's a purpose for like making it extremely like earthquake proof and things like this but this is sort of beyond that really this this goes to a different level of uh complication i have no idea what muhammad found there but yeah what is that i think it's a he might be a mummified ritual object or something i don't know man uh it's always puzzled me same footage this is from we're saying there was a statue alcove up there is that with the idea that's the mainstream idea well i think this one down here what we're looking at now the pit is um where they found the larger uh is that where they found the larger cafe statue um or whatever yeah i think yeah that's the one on display diorite as well that's even harder than the granite that's crazy that's actually on that's on display in the main museum in cairo and that's the one with the beautiful kind of falcon on the back of the head yeah with with ridiculous detail i mean i've had yousef uh you know and jim vieira stonemason as well looking at that and just go what yeah you know because and so so you know even if this wasn't built by cafe which is one of the theories it's actually earlier structured potentially still they had that high technology going back to all the different eras of um egypt it wasn't just the super ancient right up in even to ptolemaic times they somehow passed this from generation to generation and were able to do this that's why it's so hard i think to date this kind of stuff although again robert temple has done some interesting dating he's actually didn't done some thermal it was a thermal luminescence and he's got some he did it with some granite on the third pyramid and also near the valley temple and he was getting data that was at least 500 to 700 years older than this which i believe was about 2600 bc so it's going into 3000 bc and beyond um but anyway look this is this is the main part of the temple here this is um absolutely mind-blowing yeah it is there's there's and and the floor is alabaster we mentioned that it's the uh it's the white calcite or um yeah then we have this these these are odd i mean you get these darker blocks here just i think that is that right is that like an artistic thing is that something they chose or was it all that was available it doesn't seem like that's that later option is correct but um what is going on there yeah it's it's that it's that real famous stone i think it's either diorite or basalt but it's it seems out of place with all of the red granite so you have kind of the white floor the red granite uh of most of the stone you have these these main pillars and then you have a couple of uh a couple of either either diorite or basalt stones either way you're talking something that's on par if not harder than granite itself uh you mentioned kufrin throne two even that statue which is probably one of the finest works people have been marveling about that statue i mean back when they discover ever since they discovered it you had mason stonemasons going scratching their head looking out and going no idea how to work this material like this and you if you look at again take a close look at that museum look at the glyphs on it the glyphs are clearly handmade and chiseled as opposed to the statue itself so you know there's i think there's a strong chance that glyphs came later are we seeing a water level here with the roughness of the lower parts of the pillars and then it getting smoother you do get water yeah there's definitely water in here yeah you can when you're in there it's about what three four feet high something like that and it's the whole place you can tell it had water in it and it was controlled it was moved through and they said that you know one of the theories is that there were ceremonies in there um going in through the sphinx throughout the other side of the temple and all this kind of so all these different things that you know used to get up to and uh and the alabaster floor alabaster was quite soft you know it's not a hard stone or anything and one of the one one suggestion like there's lots of different ideas and that was actually added later that was actually a later reconstruction but it's not it's not clear it's not clear if that's correct or not there are some alabaster blocks in in the construction here when you look in the side doors which we'll get up to there's there's actually some of the wall is made of big alabaster blocks as well okay yeah but this construction style looks a lot like the assyrian yep you know i mean which has water in it right yeah yeah and there and remember also there was probably a second level to this as well and a roof so it was all covered but yeah it's like it's almost as though they have the same function i mean it's got the the pillars the same it's very similar in more ways than just like the the laying of the stone or the type of stone you know it is and i don't think these are the only two places either because i've got a couple pictures of a site that if you if you kind of after we look at this we'll look at that and see if you can guess which side it is uh but it's um yeah it's it's i think this type of thing if it was functional and something to do with water perhaps says this may have been replicated in a few places certainly there's a connection with this and the assyrian i mean they look very they feel very similar so you walk so you're walking up the passage now this is like going up upwards to the sphinx it's worth no worth noting here that these walls are often very closely mirrored again yeah with these side chambers as well and also if you look at some of the angle on some of the stones as they go up um they refer back to the golden section kind of geometric principle and they kind of kind of fit back in and a lot there's a lot of that going on here constantly um you just don't see it unless you're kind of you know changing that kind of thing i've just i've just i followed following the work of people like robert temple he points all these geometric aspects out um and you just here's one of one of the chambers on the right hand side yeah all alabaster so these blocks in here it's all alabaster there's a granite floor in fact and you see it more clearly on the other side but these are white alabaster blocks that go around the corner and as far as yusuf i've asked him a couple times actually he's never been in here and he's never seen these doors open and every time i go here i stick stick my camera in i'll have a good look but they go in and around the corner and i don't know where uh but you have these beautiful police so you can see the contrast with the granite and the roof but yeah this is all alabaster blocks uh and you see the same thing on the other side i think the bottom layer might be it might be uh granite on the other side but then you have alabaster in here as well yeah yep that makes me suspicious right locked and never opened yeah yeah i mean youth has been there his whole life and he's said he's never been in this one spot he's not ever been in yeah oh that's that's where they put the stools yeah that's the yeah that's the little nightly cleanup crew you just gotta find the janitor man you mentioned the roof as well ben um that's one thing that i've always wanted to get on the roof of that place but yes robert temple again i keep mentioning he's been up there and he's got some really good shots in his book and on his website looking at that oh yeah this is one of the door jams right and um where they would have had like would they have had like a granite door or would that have been just a wooden door who knows um but yeah but from up on top does see what he thinks is he thinks there were all these long pillars going over the roof yeah and there were there were many of them would be closely put together and she couldn't fit a credit card between them but then there'd be gaps and then there'd be another section of these so he believes there was a certain light coming in right and and that may represent uh maybe an astronomical that may have been using it as a a solar temple to observe shadow effects as they move through the sky around the year so it would illuminate certain things within the temple and give clues you know to like um to the initiates who understood this so there may have been um a shadow the same with the same with the great pyramid like it you know because technically it has eight sides and around the equinox one of the sides you can see one side one of the faces half of its shadow half of its light just for a few seconds and it changes a bit like you get you know the same thing at chichen itza on the equinox that's right it was the snake the snake on the side so i think there's something to do with that because i find like any of any of these massive polygonal sites like saxophone all these nubs um protrusions and other things they may have had some astronomical or solar shadow function i agree where they were recording very important times of year it could have been for agriculture it could have been from something much more esoteric it would be much more cosmic and even like you know they were so obsessed by geometry and mathematics there may be codes throughout this whole kind of um design you know every single angle length orientation are something more than we realize and so there's still these different aspects that these uh these brilliant people were uh building into their sites there is a lot to it yeah yeah and i'm imagining now you were talking about you know there would be places where light could come in and that would of course it would move during the day and if there was water in there too is like reflecting pools that would have been really beautiful you know like water like shafts of light coming in hitting water and bouncing back up onto ceilings and just i don't know keep that thought keep keep chatting i just wanted to point this out as we walk up here just this is probably one of the best examples of something that you mentioned earlier look at the left side and the right side walls look at the shapes in the walls and you have that mirror that matched shapes uh kind of the symmetry of the blocks this isn't random so look at the left and the right side of the blocks as we walk up here but keep yeah i think you're right about the the functionality of these buildings and and this the angle on astronomy uh and using them as solar temples and marking things with light and cycles it shows an understanding of of cycles right there's i think alignment is a serious clue and to to i think either dating and then also understanding some of the sophistication of these of the original builders still think one of my preferred ideas right now is that the original structure was not designed for people but designed as uh some sort of function you know um i'm not necessarily saying a power plant or whatever but uh i like that idea for like the pyramid and and this you know the fact that it's been flooded um trying to imagine that it having something to do with flowing water um i don't know some kind of um yeah i don't know if it's power generation or yeah i mean some form of i mean yeah uh who knows right i think some of their answers to functionality functionals lay outside of our of some kind but yeah it's that it i think you're i think originally some some function was attached to these things all these korean girls um and then and then you know it's it's easy to imagine people coming later and um it becoming something more uh for people right like the religious ideas or ceremonies being built around these sites um honoring the you know the old ones that's right yeah i think you have a mix there's a to me my picture of it is is something along the lines of there's there's there's a mix of functional and then what's clearly representational and ceremonial or artwork i mean these the statues are like that like there's a representation of that culture that is embodied in those in statutes which i think are also older than the dynastic egyptian civilization but i think you're what we know as a dynastic egyptian civilization starting in that old kingdom i think were we were had a strong understanding or they were connected i mean that's what they said as well they said that they were connected to uh their ancestors they called themselves a legacy culture you know you had the the shamsu hall the follows of horus and zepty and it goes back forty thousand years or whatever uh and i think they i think that's a lot of what happened that they along the lines lost the ability to to and to activate or to to understand the functionality or use any of that so these places became ceremonial they became important and sacred and religious and they were built on and they were worked up and they the ceremonies and you know most of the things that we ascribe them as today as being like temples and stuff i'm sure that's what they were used for we we have evidence of that but i think in a lot of cases the the objects themselves and some of the structures were were inherited and that wasn't their original purpose uh you know in much the same ways today we use them you know we we now use them as tourist attractions and we find them sacred and we all go there it's yeah we're we're inheriting and reusing i think it's the same we just we're just not the first ones to do it it may be i mean one of the things that you know you mentioned is um if we look at the assyrion you know which we're going to jump to shortly it's um there's a whole kind of almost like a procession that could be carried out in honor of osiris there yeah that's one of the purposes they this will be written about by various different authors and the similar function may have been the osiris shaft also on the giza plateau incidentally which is linked with this because it's uh it's on the same causeway it's just off the same causeway from middle pyramid down to the temple here and and they think that may have been you know certainly whether that was the original thing we don't know but it was certainly you potentially used as this sort of resurrection of osiris ceremony going down there doing all these things and put yourself in danger and so forth and so potentially there's i think i think it was robert temple again who actually thinks there was some ceremonial aspect of the water and sailing through the valley temple right you know either to or from the sphinx and then back to the second pyramid as part of this process so it's all again this is like what do we know i mean we just you know we're trying to put together the mythology with what we can see before what is available to see now so it's hard to gauge what's really going on but with the precision you're finding here it's just it's so precise and this is going back to the ancient technology idea that um it's it to be that precise it's more like a machine it's more like um a functional kind of technology rather than is a temple because you know churches aren't built to that kind of level of sophistication or chapels and things like this or shrines so you know i think there's you know i think everything you just mentioned previously you know echoes that yeah and also the you know when there's ceremonies and stuff uh a lot of times they have hidden clues as to what the original function of the thing was you know because there's a memory uh in some way that was passed down and so the ceremony can sometimes mimic you know what the original function was so um we'd do it tonight i don't know it's a very cool puzzle but we are way past uh our first break yeah we weren't watching the time i was gonna ask you guys yeah it's fascinating sorry about that oh good all right we'll be right back yeah and welcome back ladies and gentlemen uh brothers of the serpent here with hugh newman and ben from uncharted x and we're gonna go back through what we just went through because it was a lot yeah it was footage we got different footage from a different time so yep this is this is i think this is mostly all footage from last year so fresh that a lot of that footage of the walk through the inside of the uh the temple was i think 2016 era and this is this is uh you know four years later uh in late 2020. it's a similar area so this is that entrance way with those blocks that go around the corner and again it's it's i think a lot of these these surfaces while they're rough today i think they were originally flat and smooth uh if not polished and there's a few a few examples here and there of of those surfaces but and you can obviously see that something's happened to the surface of the stone but um yeah it's unfortunate we don't have those flat surfaces to test with you know surface roughness meters and some of the new gadgetry yeah and you're and you guys are right both you and and hugh have pointed out and i'm starting to notice now watching more video that there are patterns that recur in the in the way the walls are made even though they're it's not it's not completely recurring right there's always something different but there's like an artistic kind of choice they're kind of playing with isn't there and i love i love that because it's like um it's to me it's like really abstract it's like abstract thought abstract artistic kind of ideas being placed within these temples or these whatever they were they're not just constructing they're like artistically designing and playing really with it and one of the other things you'll notice as well maybe we'll get to see some of this is they're a natural kind of in the granite there's natural kind of striations nice scenes or streams whatever they call it in the granite and and they i think have been chosen artistically about where they go um something me and andrew discussed a lot when we were in the valley temple andrew collins that is um and we just like kept spotting that we saw that at the assyrian as well um and i i i jump in if i see one uh as you move the camera to the various parts of the site but yeah i know there are a few in here they're odd they kind of wait where they're placed and why they were chosen right um and uh yeah it's kind of interesting there's also a stone in here i'm sure we'll get to it in a minute at the end of the main corridor as you come through the main door there i think we're heading down there now at the end i think it's like got what 15 sides or something one of the roads we'll get that you see one of them seeing streams there just on that that's that and they see another one here above the blackstone above the stone yeah that's a good bigger conclusion quite a few of those and they're like really strangely placed they're not just random i don't think i think that was part of their kind of art design yeah and just go ahead sorry i was going to say a reminder that the footage is like it's just my raw footage so apologies if i i'm thrashing around with the camera i think we were we were doing a lot of talking while i was filming no worries no that's great i was just going to say it's like the the cool thing about the patterns is it's like they're illustrating symmetry but more in the way that nature does it where you can tell that there's a pattern say in the in the leaves of a flower but from one flower to the next they're all different even though you can tell like okay this is the same you know fundamental pattern coming out yeah it's never perfect and that's kind of what it does like you'll see this pattern over here in the joints of the of the stone and the other one on the other side but they're not exact it's recognizable but not exactly the same yeah right right yeah these these pillars in the center are just massive although the ones that the assyrian are even even larger and it's probably worth noting that some of these have been stood up again like this was this place was originally when i think vice was one of the first guys that explored it he actually blew up a couple of these with dynamite to get him out of the way to shift them rather than try to pick them up so he did destroy a couple of these main columns um that have now been put back up so man dynamite is the last thing i would imagine thinking of if i found this place hey let's let's stuff some dynamite over here yeah right i don't know a fair few of them used it well yeah i mean it was you know petrie kind of criticized them for it with their the energetic blasters i think he called them of of you know the previous era where they would well we can't get through here let's just blow it up and see what happens like mariette was another guy they they definitely were uh you know we're looking at these alcoves in the floor sorry ben but before the camera moves yep are they uh cut out or is this actually tiled in and are the wall stones going below because it looks like some of the stones on the wall are sitting on top of that floor but then they go down into those alcoves uh let me we've got a little look at one here let's have a look uh my there you go so yeah i i uh i think they're um i think the stones go down below the wall stones go below them yeah and then these have been tiled in afterwards would be my i think that's right i mean because you get the alabaster appears it looks like it's been added later that's what it appears like anyway but you never know i mean and i get a feeling some of the stones uh may fold into the floor level as well but we don't see that uh maybe i mean because you're getting that in the corners yeah you're getting you probably had that on parts of the the ceiling area as well if you get on top you can sort of see strange elements and this stone here just on the top part of this shot is one of the biggest ones in there i think and it's got that's got giant features um and this one again is mirrored on the other side almost identically and that's exactly the same size so sorry go ahead no that's okay no i was just pointing that out and uh massive yeah i mean further you get down you start seeing more of this mirroring you know it kind of gets kind of intense because some of the stones get smaller as well yes and they're still mirroring as you go down even further um but it's just it's it's utterly remarkable really when you start and look at the angle on that as well there's angles little angles off the vertical kind of yeah that one there they have a lot of a lot of that going on and then you get a little kind of polygon polygonal corner on it things like this i mean why do that i mean it's just it makes everything so difficult it sure does just makes it just trying to make it difficult for themselves maybe it's a test it's like part of the initiation like you do this or you die or something do it properly yeah so we're also seeing the limestone way up above like yeah what's what's going on there well there was there was another level likely to this whole structure it was there was certainly a roof on top if not another whole level on top of this and the granite the limestone goes up another up up again so you may be dealing with with multiple like actual levels to it and it's and it's like we're discussing this interior structure but it's clearly the second stage of this original building right like you're in here but we can't even see what uh because this stuff was cased around even on the inside that original much more that's right you can see i just saw that in a second ago on the top of the wall um you can actually see sort of gaps where stones would have been like lintels going across above the current lentils as well so there would have been another roof over the top of the lintels on top of the uprights so yeah and that's what um some of the early descriptions talk about some of the antiquarian images and like you said the giant uh limestone goes even higher i mean it's like the uh you know on the outside so i mean what was that originally i mean what was the structure there originally i mean what would that have looked like you know that combined with the sphinx temple next door it would have been absolutely mind-blowing and how old was it to get this eroded i'm not like you deliberately you know like found pieces of limestone that were eroded and you sort of decided to build it out of that like it's was pretty clearly made with cut blocks of limestone that have subsequently eroded and then been cased in granite and then they still attribute the whole damn thing to the what the fourth dynasty so it you know the very beginnings of uh dynastic egyptian culture as we know it which just doesn't mean it doesn't make any sense it's part of the whole contradiction of the old kingdom in general like you can't you know how do you case something that's already ancient in granite and then the whole thing apparently was all just built in the fourth dynasty for one for one pharaoh right this this down here on the right um the cornerstone of that door i think it's the one on the right at the bottom there that is that is that is one of the strangest stones i think i've seen in egypt where it's like got something like how many sides does that got bear like it was yeah and tons of 17 or so and it bends around the hole goes through the whole door and joins up with the other wall the amount of corners and bends in one block i mean just just to choose to do that yeah that one there yeah it's just crazy i mean i forget how many sides and corners and other things there are with that but unless you look carefully you just walk past it and don't notice that yeah there's it's there's a there's a there's it reminds me of a stone that's in the um the cory cancer in uh in cusco that does the same thing it goes it just has all these angles and it's the same sort of polygonal masonry but there's one stone that sort of goes all the way around an inset doorway and it's the one piece that travels all those corners uh and you know you've got the same thing at the inca roka walls the fifth is so called the i think it's the 12 angle stone there's one big piece of granite that's got 12 faces to it that are shaped with all of its neighbors and you know those are even crazier because they're curved they're not all straight sort of shapes uh you can get it look at the alabaster on the floor here yeah do they do they know the source of all the like you know the red granite the the limestone blocks i guess came from the sphinx enclosure but yeah and then where does the alabaster come from do they know all this have they figured this out uh well so alabaster this white calcites it's a spring st you have to get it it's like it forms it next to natural spring so it's you have to dig it up out and sort of for big blocks like this it has to be deep in the ground like close to the source of the spring apparently uh according to use from what i understand i don't know if they have the specific source for the alabaster or not but it has to be there's only like a few places where you can get it in in quality like is used here i think it falls in caves do all right yeah yeah and yeah and then of course they they tribute most of the the red granite the pink granite to as1 which is a thousand kilometers five six hundred miles away uh and you you know there's a and it's even as much ground as we're looking at here we know it's a tiny fraction of the amount of granite that was shipped up here because again they say first couple courses of the uh the second pyramid cased in granite there's granite up and down this place like the the the temple the structure in in front of the uh the pyramid itself was all cased in granite much like and it would have looked i think it was all the same sort of work you just most of it got quarried and knocked down and for whatever reason this this was buried in sand and somehow preserved but you know as beautiful as the valley temple is i think it's just one of many structures that were made like this and this is that same alabaster walls on the inside if my camera ever focuses uh same sort of thing really odd that yeah it's focusing on the bar yeah it really odd that that uh that they there's these weird ins channels and passages off to the side have these alabaster walls i i um again why it's it's kind of like that black diorite or basalt block you know what why the change why the shift yeah is it was there what's up with the floor there the ramp is like made of wood so do you guys know what it looks like was it stairs or was it a ramp i don't know like why did they floor it with modern wood i think it was just a slope i don't think it was steps on it i mean as far as i remember reading robert temple's book again and the slope is very much to do with the the geomet geometrics the the golden section angles and they were very much following those principles in virtually everything they were doing here it wouldn't surprise me if it was like the walls were bending around underneath but i could be wrong yeah okay well just in that real quick shot there it looked like the uh the hinges were on both sides of that opening did you see that yeah i think they are i believe those holes are in both sides yes like a double door or a locking door i guess right that's interesting yeah yeah so then we pop out and have a look at the the sphinx which we did see a little of before so but what i wanted to do is maybe we move on to some images here that i have a couple of pictures and you probably recognize this site i'll guess but i i think that you're looking at in in in this site in question as we just flipped through these it's another uh supposed old kingdom sites one that not that many people get to see but i think you're just looking at the remnants of something that could have been like this i think this probably existed on a number of sites and even maybe a number of places at giza but you know you it's another place that has these big limestone blocks huge lumps of granite laying around uh mostly all been quarried uh which is the one that i i was looking through my pictures and i was like man it's just like this is what that that that temple might look like had it all been just knocked down and quarried and and removed in the same way that you know so many other sites have had and you know maybe if it wasn't covered in sand and preserved or at least partially preserved for us to see today you might see something like this is all you'd have left so it's it's a good example of kind of the clues like this this is a good shot of it here um you know giant blocks of granite huge blocks of limestone man yeah it's an another anything right any clue some of the other shots you showed you could see that the limestone walls have like slumped yeah yeah wow any guesses no i don't think i've been is this abba it's not about it yeah it is yeah yeah yeah oh there you go yeah yeah it's almost like it's almost like a pyramid without a pyramid isn't it it is yeah it's like with the hollow section there's a couple of stones there as well i remember seeing well i visited there twice i think as one of them has got this beautiful curvature on it a bit like you find one of the outer stones right um uh the valley temple that's that's actually one that chris dunn looked at i think as well that's that's this stone here yeah yeah and uh and just that the size of the machine yes that would have had to carve that would have been so big it would it's unthinkable you know how they could have done that but aberrash is an odd one because it's like a huge pit but it is and then there's there's no pyramid there as such even though there may have been it might have all been quarried away i i think i think there was i just from the the sheer amount of uh of rubble and this is like i know this is like chuck doesn't think this was a pyramid and he thinks that there was a number of chuck from cfaps there was a number of sites that weren't and there's it definitely bears similarities to zaywood l aran there's other great pits just like it but when you look at i think i think mostly the structure was quarried i think there was a lot there's so much there are there is the berms of nothing but chip rubble like you're talking you know like like 30 40 feet high massive berms of nothing but just quarry off cuts little chips all limestone like all quarry rubble like quarry rubbish there's there is so much of that around this site i think is just this was the quarry for millennia i think people were just taking stone from here forever and whatever it was whether it's a pyramid or not i think there was just a massive structure there originally and something else going on there but yeah today it's it's like this giant open pit uh not to divert away from it but i just i think it's quite possible my point was kind of like i think there was there was just like we have with the valley temple we've there's there's a stack of sites that probably had work like that on them and we just don't have much left of it anymore today i think there's you just have the tiniest of clues which makes it such a difficult kind of space to try and actually say what was going on but you know that's that's when i look at and see some of the stones and the big granite blocks that you do see on these places and then you know might even have a couple of these on various sites i think originally you could have had structures as big as the valley temple on these places as well all from granite yeah and that's interesting because i mean if it wasn't a pyramid but it was more like the valley temple for example does that hint that the valley temple itself may have gigantic open spaces deep beneath it like this does could be yeah i think this could have just been the structure next to the pyramid that was here you know even though today you're just looking at a mound of limestone and some granite and this giant pit in the ground uh you know this this this is similar to even just what's beneath the step pyramid although that's even grander and that's just a straight pit you've got zairat laran which is is very similar to abu rawash and then there's a number of other ancient like pyramid sites that aren't very well documented that also have these underground structures that also have typically like granite in the bottom of them i mean zaywad al-aran looks like this but they found they that was found with it wasn't quarried like they found granite blocks and a granite coffer and it was it's an incredible story yeah tiled with granite and i think i think you get that um as well you can see the beautiful kind of the passageway was just precision engineered um so yeah so there's so many of these sites on top they're ruined underneath it's barely been some of them are flooded out so you can't even get down to them i think that's why i think that's what i think actual like sand and rubble kind of saved the valley temple and saved the syria you know kind of preserved it in a way for future generations to actually appreciate yeah it escaped to the quarrying um yeah yeah and i think you look at in a lot of cases not everywhere like geezer and and some of these sites you have you have a very complex and and i think builder structures on top of the ground but i think in some places like hawaii as an example you have something more complicated and high-tech sort of underground that then like that whole adobe mud brick pyramid i think was probably dynastic like they probably built that over the top of it much like i think the step pyramid was probably built by the dynastics over the top of something that was pre-existing at but yeah i mean hawara is such an incredible spot i mean if you ever read if you want an interesting story look up what petrie wrote about it and i think it's hawara uh he has a book he has a couple on hawara but his when he first found what's down there there's like a it's like a 100 ton block of yellow calcite some yellow crystal it's almost like a a box inside this crystal box room that's beneath it that's this giant structure and he could he could it was still flooded in his time he could barely get down and document it and but then the water table it's still down there but the water table rose and uh he you can't get down there anymore like he's his story of what's down there and what what what he found and it's really interesting and it's something i'm going to dig into in some point do in a video but yeah some incredible unique stuff down there just like i'd love to eventually have if i have someone get in there and take pictures of that box that's down there because apparently it's it's one of the most incredible boxes in all of egypt um anyway not to divert too far from these but i just was kind of making the point that i think these structures like the assyrian and the valley temple probably existed at a number of these sites and anyway so let's let's move on to the assyrian and i'll um we can keep chatting but i'll let this video roll just to set it up so this this does include a little bit of the walk through the temple that leads up to it this is a dynastic temple i think it's seti the first if i'm not mistaken um that that as they were building it's almost like they had to turn it to the right a bit once they found the assyrian which sits at a different level and so we'll see that as we we kind of roll through this um it is a beautiful uh temple as well a beautiful work this has got some interesting features just within this part isn't it as well it does yeah and uh but there's they've got the kings list on this as well which uh goes way way back a long way back um and uh that that's an unusual thing in its own right indeed and also um what was the other thing that kind of grabbed my attention here there's quite a few bits and pieces actually but yeah like you say it was built this was built like before it appears to have been built what was it around 12 1200 bc something like 12 1250 something like this uh seti reigned for like what 60 odd years and he um built it and then he appeared to have if you know one of the theories he then found the assyrian right that was oriented completely differently and that and you don't have temples together oriented differently in egypt it is not not a done thing in any any era and so yes so so either he's playing with us messing with our minds and he did it deliberately against the orientation of the assyrian or he did actually find it later and he built it in honor of osiris maybe in honor of the earlier epoch from the giza plateau uh that's why it's the kind of it's kind of one of the one of the traditional theories is that the syrian i think we're walking through no we're not through the kings we just went past it a minute ago i missed that i was just yapping away one of the traditional theories which most people believe the academics is that he built it in honor of osiris based upon the principles of the valley temple and so forth right um but there's so many things in here we're going to get into in a minute but yeah yeah yeah yeah it's it's it's almost as if the temple kind of dog legs a little to the right too like i i think there's a it seems pretty you know there's a mass and this is all sandstone versus the you know the granite of the of the assyrian which is just here and it's at a different it's such at a different level i mean clearly underground uh and yeah you don't pop them together right quite like that yeah it there's a seems passageway that kind of comes down uh from the surface or from the back end of city the first temple is sort of to the left of this uh then comes through then changes direction for it that eventually cut it goes down on the slope and comes into the cereal but we'll see we'll see respect to that uh video yes was setting the father of ramsay's yes i got that right yeah so i cuz i kind of remember reading it he didn't quite finish that temple either and so ramsey finished it off put his name on it yep yeah his name on it same thing it would carnac right that was ramses and seti uh luxor as well um the the 19th dynasty was a big one he he definitely was a powerful king i mean right i've got my issues with ramses but i just think that him and min cara i think was uh no who was his son wasn't curious um i think uh was his son and they all were just notorious for stealing um the more ancient work they just would they they start i don't know who started the trend he's been going on that rewriting trend and overriding other people's names being gone for a while but those guys took it to like a new level like that that's and today we kind of everyone thinks that and we make movies about him right ramsay's the the greatest king of all egypt and it's i think in in a lot of cases it's just he he got to write his name on some of the greatest achievements of each of of that culture and just i mean he did work i'm sure and it was a very powerful king they did a lot during his time but i i just you can't attribute everything to him just because he put his name on it because there's direct evidence that shows he he was only the last guy to write his name on it i mean petrie gets into this in detail it's not even it's not a it's not a there's not a lot of debate about it like we know that's what happened but it just sort of gets no no that's ramsay's that's obviously of ramsay's right and we have him that's the other thing too i saw this on twitter someone did a good job like we have his body and his mummy and so we can that's done there's like facial reconstruction been done on his the bone structure and what he looked like and it's it's like not even remotely close to what we would associate and call a ramsay's face like it there's nothing it's it's realms yeah the statues which are all apparently of him but they don't look anything like him they're all as you know from chris dunn's research they're all geometric they're all symmetrical they're all like precision all down little different uh golden section principles anyway this is the cereal yeah god this is pretty very nice i've been down here twice got inside it twice before so i'm quite for a long time though as you know ben it was it was you couldn't go in it because of the water level but it's kind of reduced gone down further and but all this would have had like a ceiling much like um the valley temple um the floor slabs are ridiculous there's all these nubs you can even see numbers in the lower kind of pits and yeah there's there's a lot to say i mean and there's also do you get to see any of the keystone cuts in this footage yes yep we'll get to some of those yep one of the one of the aspects with the keystone cuts which is interesting i'll just throw this in now quickly is the seti put wooden keystone cuts in yeah carved his name on them but did he did you know so that's why they think oh said he must have built it you know there's one actually the ashmolean museum in oxford england and and so people think oh he built it then but did he just put them in there himself because if you put wood in pour water on it expands and it kind of keystone cup it's not going to hold anything together like 100 ton blocks but you know were there metal cuts in there before there were metal clamps in there before like we find it tiwanaku for instance but we can discuss that when we see some more but i just wanted to yeah that kind of grabbed my attention when i was there and i've been to the ashmolean beforehand i've got look at this this is megalithic heaven isn't it yeah it's incredible i need like 70 80 tons these big central center blocks massive um chunks of granite and they've got elements of a polygonal sort of puffiness as well you get this you not only get you get the nubs on them as well it's sort of kind of like computer keyboard buttons like you get oriented and then you've got this around the edge anyway not on the main pillars and lintels you've got the sort of slightly puffy pillow light it's very slightly you can see it there you can see like the little kind of striations and little scoops you know this is always you've got a good good light on this actually this is a good um time of day you do not want to step in that stencil [Laughter] one of our guys stepped in accidentally went down to his waist almost yeah it does go down like 11 12 feet from there there's there is there is plenty more structure beneath this that's in the water so when they found this in in modern times was it was it just completely buried in sand or was there rubble it was it was it rock and sand or what it's both yeah there was a lot of there's a lot of rubble a lot of clearing out had to be done um there's a lot of work actually i've got i've got all the old photos i've been collecting it for years but um just while we're in these rooms here there's 17 of these rooms all around the whole whole kind of main sort of rectangular complex um and then you have the corridor which goes at two or three angles heading out of the site um and so this is feet 12 feet something like that 15 something like that they're not huge you have to duck down to go in them yeah um but you can see the cornering here as well and you've got the uh the drill holes for the doors yeah it's pretty impressive i mean this is to me to me this is more impressive than the valley tech not just because of the size there's just something about this yeah it's a bit a bit different i mean a little bit different to the the valley temple it just has this has this energy is odd i cannot explain this yeah it cannot work out what it is it's strange to me that anybody could think that this is the same age as the seti temple right i mean it's this is granite and it's heavily weathered right yeah you know i don't i don't understand yeah it's it's pretty clearly not all this all this little um detail and like on the left here you can see these little scoop marks it's like they've softened the stone i mean this is one of the weird things you get a lot in peru as you you know that ben yeah you guys know this one but you get it here this particular site and you were right he is there at the perfect time of day the perfect time of year to get that out yeah we had good luck give you all that detail that's awesome and again this could represent things this could represent some of the size of it the sun as it shifts around in the sky certain things then emerge on the walls there may be some kind of message or ritual or something like this um and so you know they could have aspects of that that could be part of the design but you can only see it if you're in an issue and you know when to go there yeah this is uh my this was my first uh time down here only time so far uh yeah astonishing this was a real goal for that trip for me to to get down in here and take a closer look at it it's and it's just gigantic like these blocks are monstrous yeah and so it's well-made in every one of these little rooms that when you go in and you look in you can see the corner blocks that make up the doorway yep and there's a ceiling block and it's got a platform on either side that the corner that it's that are sitting on the corner block so that it's hard to describe it's like there's a there's a projection from the ceiling block that goes down towards the corners instead of the corner block sitting directly on the you know what i'm saying is interesting around corners with blocks i think that it feels i can't i can't recall that if there's a limestone block in the in the roof of all of these either like or if it's a different type of stone there might be some alabaster in there as well but there's um the i think the outer walls uh which don't see so much of uh i think they're quartzite that's what i'm not sure i think the courts are a type of sandstone which you get under but you don't get that you don't see so much of that that's what kind of almost almost like the casing around the valley temple of limestone you get i think quartzite or sandstone here but you don't see as much you see that when you i think you go up the tunnel you see the different types of stone more yep i'm going up there now i think yeah and um but this i mean obviously there's there's the flower of life's in here there are nine of them nine or ten of them uh which are etched or painted or something people aren't sure even how well they got on there um and they're very high up some of them um so they must have how they got up it's just bizarre just on this one side here there's a couple on this side as well in here and up here and you can unless you go in the temple uh you can only see two of them from steps that's right you have to go in there to see nine or ten of them so do you guys think that this structure was originally on a surface or did they build it down into the ground like this um that's a good question i mean i could tell you what i think and then ben can jump in maybe but if if it is older which there's a good case for that then that may have been the ground level or it may be just below ground level it may have been like the valley temple where they kind of landscaped it and then built it just below ground level perhaps it may have been ground level at the time if this if this is super ancient you know 10 12 000 years ago then maybe it was ground level because the way the sand moves around in this part of the desert that's that's certainly possible but if seti did build it if we look at that as a theory uh then um and if it is in honor of osiris it would have to be underground anyway and so that's why right they believe seti may have definitely done it you know because that's part of the tradition you know of the osiris kind of story where you have to go underground to kind of carry out the ceremony and the ritual yeah yeah i i share that uh share your views on it i don't um you know i think it's i i suspect it's older uh and it definitely goes deeper so but and i don't think this was the original level i think it was certainly parts of it were intended to be underground um whether or not the the same you know level that existed that then when they built the temple it was the same level when this was original i don't know but it does feel like certainly parts of it were meant to be uh under the ground well this bit i've not been into before is this this is the opposite side of where the tunnel is that's right so another it's another whole room here i think this was flooded when i was last here so this is interesting upright pillars here as well are these freestanding or these built into the wall that pillar i think it was uh into the wall and then you you also have this this a-frame kind of roof oh in here that's it that's similar to the other side as well isn't it that is you get to the tunnel and so forth that is very interesting you get this inside some of the pyramids on the giza plateau this kind of um roof design as well um yeah so that you know so that would at least be contemporary you know if we're looking at age this feels with the giza plateau yeah just feels very much like the um the kafra pyramid the chamber inside the kafra pyramid which is the same sort of a-frame uh roof to it and then you mean you also have the um the so-called queen's chamber in the main pyramid that has has an a-frame roof and interestingly there's a slope there is the third pyramid has a has an arched a curved roof and then the only other place where i've seen that is at lahoon it's that granite chamber that's beneath the lahoon pyramid that has that incredible precision box in it also has a a curved ceiling and that's it like a whole chamber that's made out of out of granite so not seen this one this is i've not seen this one so these these pillars here what do you think there you go freestanding yeah that one's freestanding i i don't know yeah it's it's like this they're evenly spaced along the edge there uh if we go back you actually can see um yeah i think this must have been really when i was there i did i did not see this particular spot and just just the i mean there's some of the the blocks going over the roof at this angle like ridiculously big by the looks how long would you say this room is pretty big um it looks like it's 40 feet long or something something like that yeah that's a probably good maybe a little longer even maybe longer yeah yeah yeah i want to say i want to say 20 or 30 meters so what is this with this metric crap what's that it's like so 70 feet 60 feet there you go it's just something else isn't it yeah this place was cool oh yeah we're we're up on time again guys we're all right we're not paying enough to with this video i figured i figured we'd be up on time in a minute all right i'll pause it here all right let me come back from a break fantastic okay so we're back from the break and we're checking out more of the assyrion and uh the footage we've got here we're just deep within it a private access visit clearly this is where you is where you usually get to this is where most people kind of have to stop you see that rope there and it's actually a bit further up actually and you just get the view down on it so to get in there and now they they actually have access you know which is brilliant i mean we do that on our tours you do that on your tours ben and yeah it's really essential i mean for the the megalithic people with that interest or the ancient technology interest they really have to do that um i think it's one i think it's one of the most intriguing places to actually go inside of in the whole of egypt i agree yeah this was my first chance to to get down here and definitely it'll be included on any of the future trips that i do i think it's as you say just essential to get down in here and i know you're you're going back this year right here you've got you've got a tour in november november yeah it's postponed from last year of course um okay so yeah we've got one in november we're doing that with my buddy jim vieira uh we talk a lot about the giant research but he's a stone mason he's like you know he's the same sort of thing as you said they do different types of stone mates so he's got this background of a professional stone mason he goes there and he's like whoa you know he kind of sees it from that perspective so we have very much we're looking at the we love the ancient technology side of it but jim's a bit of a mystic as well uh and i've kind of got that kind of thing going on jj is going to be with us who does brilliant research on ancient symbolism she decodes stuff as we go around sites and it kind of blows everyone away but yeah so yeah we're doing a trip there november it's a few spaces open for that and uh yeah hopefully we can all collaborate on some giant trip one day and get like i'd love to give us hosts i'd love that yeah because the stuff you learn i mean it's like sometimes you get people on these trips you just give you the insights you were waiting for you didn't spot something didn't see something it's actually quite useful to go with a bunch of people indeed yeah i love that yeah i'm i i am hoping to get back to egypt this year as well i'm in the final throes of planning a trip it was it's one that also been delayed and delayed a couple times in fact this was the original trip from last year i've have a long wait list of people that couldn't make it because of 2020 uh i'm hoping that'll be in october and i'll get to announce something about that in the next few next couple weeks i'm in the last phases of doing the same thing but yeah i'd love to get together on a trip at some point and do something yeah that'd be cool this is this yeah it goes in the tunnel isn't it this is the kind of this is the route you've seen you've come out of the main temple and you've taken a right here yeah and you this is actually a slope uh correct going upwards yeah if i kind of lost track of where we were for a second and this goes way up and then then it goes takes another corner i think and this is all constructed but this is a different type of construction this is this isn't really great this is not granite is it this is kind of like sandstone it is i think yeah local stone you can see that on the ground there um it's not great so this is why it's thought that this was um added later and was designed to connect to this discovery that city and his group made you know you know 1258 bc or whatever so that's that's one of the ideas but obviously the academic egyptologist believed this was one big design and it was actually built by seti as part of his to bring back these old traditions so the jury's out on that one i'm with the old school i think it's older i think it's got this different orientation there's been some research even on the akio astronomy of it there's people like freddie silver who's like an alternative historian he believes that this would align precisely with orion going back 10 500 bc which matches the whole kind of sphinx idea that hancock and bravol put forward this going back to the time of leo and so forth um and you know this there's something in that kind of rings true with me um but you know with so little research and dating has actually been done here is is quite quite startling yeah of course these walls of beautifully you know artwork it's just and some of the colors are still showing and this is thousands of years old like this work is it's beautiful uh actually to get in here and look at this and yeah uh clearly dynastic is the roof over there overhead uh stone yes this staggered pattern on that roof that they're modern i think modern repairs and additions of the skylights but yeah and it's it was a constructed tunnel yeah and a lot of it was probably caved in yeah i think a lot of the roof has been reconstructed here as well okay um you know so that a lot of i mean a lot of it has been moved around i mean obviously they're they're going to move anything in the assyria virtually what's written in here they telling a story on the way down the hallway is that the idea i haven't i haven't read an analysis of it but yes i'm assuming there's a number of stories being told on here it's it's absolutely covered um top to toe one of the one of the ideas andrew collins he talks about we when he came on our previous trips um he's a lot of research on egypt he's one of the top people on it in my opinion and he's he he thinks it's this whole elaborate ritual and story of osiris and was played out and so much of that was probably part of this um root going down into the uh underworld you know uh and so forth and uh so much so even in the serial much there would have been a giant megalithic roof over most of it possibly all of it with probably a few gaps which i still believe were used as part of uh like a solar kind of light phenomena thing lighting up certain parts of the site at different times of year um so a lot of this would have been to do that but this would have been a set his time uh they would do they were kind of adding this to perhaps this previous temple but adding their ideas of what they thought was that may have been used for yeah so yeah so there's a big big mystery here i mean it's really unclear i mean i've i've read as much as i can on this i've talked to some top people on this academics and alternative researchers but um this is where this is kind of where it all changes just here this is where you're going back into iran and go back into the assyria copper here yeah and just a massive granite blocks this is kind of where the real temple begins there's all the rubble on either side yeah yeah and a lot of it's been quarried you see a lot of those dashed lines they're all quarry marks so this was quarried quite a lot of the blocks i mean they're still there the ones that weren't successfully quarried but yeah they've been hacking at this for a while as a granite quarry essentially yeah yeah i see i've seen the there's holes in the corners of some of these blocks too where they were trying to so they're trying to peel pieces of it off yep that scooping pattern yeah that is on the faces of those granite stones i just i don't know i'm i'm definitely looking into the ultrasonic using vibration to cut through that stuff i think i think uh risky i mean because again you got you've got this ridiculously obvious peruvian connection going on yeah same so obvious i mean like this is one thing a lot of people don't well i've talked about this with ben in the podcast he's like even a stonehenge there's two or three stones that have scooping on them some of them are really slight scoops others are giant ones that's almost actually a recumbent flat stone on the ground one of the fallen triller dogs and there's another stone there as well which even has a nub sticking out but this is a stonehenge no one knows about this no one has a clue a lot you know i've been there so many times having it's basically my back garden virtually that i'll get a chance to go in there quite often and it is exactly like what you find at orientee tambo and like as one quarry and part enough parts of this look a bit like that so what what on earth you know what on earth is going on why are you getting the same thing stonehenge and you know and we have to you know there's another obvious connection these are like trilothons like you get a stonehenge right so it's a bit too obvious to mention really but it's um but but that is a similarity you can't deny it and there's actually a mortise and tenon joint you get here and you get that in parts of the valley temple as well you get mortise and tenon joints with a little nub and a little hole in the stone above it to hold it in place so same elements of technology being played out in different parts of the world i'll just flip back to the uh i think you're right yes the the old the flower of life we'll pause on this briefly interesting uh interesting as you say like no one's real sure how if it's etched in there you know yusuf has an interesting take on it he thinks it's a distraction he's like people always talk about the flower life but what they they're sort of missing the the innate technological wonder of the thing it's it's it's drawn on you know like this 70-tonne block of granite that's been precisely shaped and moved and and shipped here um but yeah who no one really knows like some people think pythagoreans did this or something like that you know in later periods uh obviously doesn't seem to be it's i i like i like this it's obviously a sign that that other people have found this place to be remarkable and sacred pretty clearly so whatever they did or however they did this it's it's an indication that uh yeah i mean it's a this this place is pretty profound when you go in and it's like you know you just have a brief think about it you start going holy crap how did how did anyone do this yeah which is a geometry i mean i i know i i've talked i've been in there with ucf he's kind of sort of not so interested in that but the flower of life oh it's it's incredible yeah this they're pretty big you know and they're really hard you try drawing that on paper very difficult even with a compass and everything compass and pens and everything but you do it on a bit of granite like 15 feet up you know etching it into a wall yeah i mean that's a mixture that is tough to do i mean regardless of the ridiculous size what it looks like well yeah no i i yeah i have a t-shirt with it on there i mean there's there is a lot to i'm not i don't want to dismiss the frown like the whole what it represents in terms of sacred geometry and everything is it's profound too but um i was just yeah relating you have had that interesting point because everyone's looking at it he's like wait wait wait you know look at the block it's in but yeah it's uh it's interesting on the flower of life bro yeah it was yeah i did i shouldn't do it i said i'll wear my flower of life t-shirt for the next one i gave that t-shirt away no but it is yeah it's the the geometry you know is kind of a universal language yeah so yeah it is interesting that that would be put there and like you're i like it on the ceiling i don't know that somebody would look at that and say okay this is other people are recognizing that there are geometric principles does it work and yeah itself does it show up in other egyptian art anywhere the flower that's a good question it is i don't know i don't know but they were certainly using them same geometric principles yeah of course right yeah in the just the design of the sites you know without a doubt i mean look at the even the you know even your favorite guy ramesses was having the symmetry in his face it's just interesting that if it you know if it's not really an egyptian thing to draw it makes you wonder who put it there and that's why i guess you were suggesting the pythagoreans maybe i've heard that yeah yeah that makes sense possible theory yeah it's uh that's good that's also that's a good point yeah because there's one thing you know because that would have been uh that would have been full of rubble when the pythagoreans and the ptolemaic people were there probably they were probably just sitting on top of the road they could have been yeah so they wouldn't have had to climb up scaffolding perhaps so they're floating in a crate yeah well they're in there yeah if it's full of water yeah for sure sure but this this is a good shot here look at this it shows you the magnitude of some of these ridiculously large yeah yeah i mean just just the thing about quarrying these hundred what is it a hundred miles from as well or is it eighty ninety miles from aswan yep uh this is this is a region but still so you've got to bring that over you've got to quarry it bring it over carve granite into that shape somehow lower it if it was lowered um it's put into place yeah it's just absolutely remarkable then you see these beautiful and then right there they were they were flattening the wall and stopped that's the most interesting part of this site to me wow the blocks are pillowed out and then somebody is coming along and flattening it out and making the whole thing smooth and they never finished look at that wow that is and you can see where they just they just stopped work and the yeah gigantic they were they were smoothing that wall out taking off a couple of inches of material to make the whole thing flat and they didn't get it they didn't get it done there are a couple places like that it's very much like the third pyramid to have that same spot that's flat and then it pillows out around it and there's something similar in the what is it uh it's not karnak it's that what's the place with the wheels oh uh abu uh uh abbot grub konark this yeah it's in india okay india this is a completely different place but they're carving these like giant very incredibly intricate wheels and there's a place where you see one of the wheels and halfway up it's there it's all like beautifully intricate and then at the top it's just blank like it looks like some kind of you know cnc machine was going in and making all the detail and just went halfway up the wheel and stopped stopped like there's all the little figurines and they're just really detailed and then they're gone on the on the upper part yeah it's it's very similar that in this short hit just in the middle you see that tiny little is that a tiny little stone yeah there's another one here too you get a few of these as well this is very peruvian again yeah yeah wow yeah just a little detail i mean there's no purpose for that unless they're just they're just playing they're just i wonder you know how much of this one of the things it was quite hard to make out here is if stuff's mirrored like it is in the valley temple right some of it is some of it is i think yeah some of it is mirrored as well so we do get the same kind of principles at play okay so now i also see that the door the doorway is cut up into the lintel block that's what i was seeing when you were looking in there okay yeah yes this here yeah yeah you see that on all of them you get that um you get the same technique i think at and some of the classic kind of like uh sites like cusco and the sacred valley um but yeah i think uh what possible purpose does that serve other than aesthetics i mean yeah yeah i i don't know it's another inside corner we got you here for answers bro yeah i i might it's the default answer for the actual purpose of swimming under there yeah this is there might be a swamp monster in that in that green lagoon ugh but yeah it does again another it's another 12 or 12 or so feet and there's a connection so i have a problem pumping out enough water because there is a a shaft that leads off and down from from the area that goes down another i think 12 feet or something there's and there's more granite blocks there's a shaft that then also leads off a small shaft that apparently that's where a lot of the water comes in from but it leads off in a direction i'm not sure anyone knows where that goes um it's but it's been constructed so there was there's clearly some there was there were things below this as well yeah uh and we just don't know and in fact i heard the guards when we were there talking about it they were literally saying that they do they'd be pumping out the water but there's that it's a lack of funds at the moment they just because of the tourism and everything they're just like we don't there's no one can no one's coughing up enough money just to even get a couple guys in here working on with machines to pump out the water which is i'm just like i'm baffled by like who wouldn't want to do that investigation like or even just i don't know all right let's go get a job guys yeah yeah yeah i mean just pitch one of these universities guys that uh that have the partnerships with the council of antiquities i don't understand it you know it's just what frustrates me the most about this stuff is i don't understand why there isn't more uh effort done in in tackling this and using things like laser scanners like proper high definition ones and yeah you know all of the surface roughness system more investigation into how these could have been made like the construction methodology that never seems to be the focus of the authorized institutional sort of driven investigations and it's just why is this down to the tourists and the groups that are in like this that come along with iphones and you know with the lidar scanners and that's you know that that's the only time that sort of thing ever happens it's i just feel like it's the new the tools we have today are non-invasive they won't hurt anything and they could shed a lot of light on this stuff and i just i think there's a lot of institutions that have the access to these sites and the partnerships to research them they don't know why they're not doing it that's that's the thing i i get that a lot it's like going back to the time of flinders petrie a lot later with chris dunn that that we know they're trying to reconstruct like a smaller version of the pyramid people have failed miserably trying to do it they've never even tried to reconstruct the cereal or around the temple or anything like this because they know they can't do it but one of the things petri kept coming up with which is what chris dunn commented on and i've kind of been looking at petra stuff over the years is that as technology developed during the 19th and 20th century it suddenly became clear how they may have been able to do things like the core drills for instance because there was a time when they were discovering these core drills before that had even been invented in modern times and so and as technology moves on in our era it almost parallels what they were capable of back then and so again we assume we're going to reach point not too far maybe in the future but suddenly we know how they did it because our technology can actually match that that's right and so so it may have been like magic you know to to the the people who didn't understand it you know the non-initiated um but you know you know so what is going on and so i think you know i think we have to wait to see where our technology goes then we can understand where they were up to you know and i think this is one of one of the ways you have to look at it we're not we're not quite there yet that's exactly what i i have the same thought it's just like i think the answers to we're we're well and truly advanced in a lot of directions but we we our civilization's technology went in a certain direction and i think there is so there's and we're in some other directions we're only getting started and i think some of the answers to this stuff may lay in some of those realms that we have yet to fully understand or to to properly investigate and i just think we should be open to that possibility when we're looking at these sites because that seems to be that's it seems to be a strong possibility when you look into like the construction methodology the precision and all these other aspects of this stone work and with it and that opens up the daughter functionality you know and purpose and it's but if we consistently just try and put this stuff in the in the box of wow it's copper chisels and flint chisels and it's all ceremonial and it's all you know for for for uh you know rituals and things and it's all within that box of what we know of this primitive uh civilization that didn't have this capability then we'll never get there but uh yeah i think that's a the technology aspects one that's just like that it drives me insane and flinders petrie understood it it wasn't until his time that we had enough capability to even put some of this stuff into context to understand that we're looking at a real mystery you know that's what's it's a meta point in all of this there's a nice keystone cut that's a good one yeah you know yeah and i agree i mean i mean i got a question actually i mean do you know if they found any metal in any of these keystone cuts because i can't i haven't found anything that if there's i mean i know there's some metal has been found in the great pyramid different alloys and stuff like this but here i mean are you aware of anything because i've not heard of it i don't think so i don't think they've really found much at all it all would have gotten removed i imagine i know there's some keystone some of these cuts that have that like the the green if the in in in granite that have the green tinge of what would have been copper i guess and so there's some evidence of that uh but no i don't know of any that have been actually found with metal i uh like i said like i said earlier there's that um there's one example i think in the esmolium with seti's name carved on it right of wood but he could but they could have easily been put in later yeah yeah and uh because all the metal disappeared but who knows i mean so that's one of the that's one of the ways they kind of dated the assyria because well these wooden keystone kind of clamps if there are metal keystone um clamps there's still a bunch in there so yeah this is the ones that are still together yeah some of them are stone like there's that it's almost as if it's like a sl a slid on hinge but that's i don't know if that's exactly what that is yeah that's that's what that looks like a tongue and groove connection yeah i'm not convinced it is after taking a closer look at it uh on this trip but it's almost like it's been cemented in now or something in modern times but it's definitely been like quarried that whole block's been quarry and there's a there's a similar like cut on top there as well that's the top of that block so it's another like some sort of keystone but there could have been another layer on top of there too i think there was yeah i want to add to what you guys were saying about these ancient sites and i think this is we the the other thing that bothers me about this is it doesn't look like they ever whoever was building them however long ago it was they were in mid-work and it stopped and they never came back to it and you see this at oyonte tombo and you see this here yeah at the sarah p like it's there something happened to people who could do stuff like this and all over the world obelisk too that the unfinished obelisk is the same thing they're in the middle of working on this monumental massive stone project using whatever tools whatever they were using to cut that thing out of there and this they're smoothing the walls down they're building the blocks they're moving the blocks into the serapium you know at ayante tambo they're moving giant blocks up up down one mountain and up another and they didn't get to complete the project right that's the thing that haunts me about so many of these sites is it looks like a construction project that never got completed and the people who were working on it never came back to it and it implies something happened that was catastrophic right this is it seems to yeah yeah i i i can't argue that it that that does seem like some of it seems unfinished uh and a little random but i just i also i also don't know if that's the right i mean it's just i don't know if that's yeah yeah if there was a if it made yeah if that's a part of the perspective that we're looking at in terms of how we would do it and there's a and i mean i i get the same feeling like it definitely like there's boxes in the hallway there's unfinished boxes there's yeah the work on the third pyramid here atlanta tambo looks like you know stuff was in motion for sure like atlanta blocks across the river like they were being pushed um yeah but yeah i i it's it does yeah something may have happened i mean that it does seem indica to indicate some sort of cataclysm with some of these walls and the third pyramid and things i just i don't know like with the finishing parts it's just i can't i can't tell if that's it's certainly intentional i mean it definitely seems like well we're halfway through it and all they started it and then it's just tools down so yeah and i mean the the the big obelisk like if if the story that we're told they're cutting that thing out and they find a flaw right yeah they're like okay we can't use it well you've cut most of it out of me you would take some blocks from and yeah for sure you would start using it for blocks right that's what i mean it's like it it the same thing at balbeck those blocks that are still in the corner they're like well they were too big just put them down you know no you would cut that up into smaller blocks that is something i've researched quite a lot actually is the the idea of the quarry being the sacred birthplace of the later temple i've written a few articles about it for all these sites including as one and bow back and one of the ideas is that uh where you where you take the stone from that's like taking it from the mother that's like taking it from the gaia and so that is the sacred spot and then you actually choose where that goes very carefully to be used and there's there's often a geodetic principle between where it's quarried and where the site actually finishes up like for instance as one quarry is if you draw a line from the center of the azwan quarry stone to the center of the geese at the great pyramid of the giza plateau is 365.4 nautical miles and that is exactly the amount of days in a year for instance we have the sec we have the same principles with the bluestone quarry the whales linking with stonehenge there's a perfect geodetic uh 5 12 13 pythagorean triangle linking them up with this small island and stonehenge and the blue stone quarter and and it goes on and on and on you could like go into all the different sites and you don't mess with the sacred origin point of the temple and so this was you know you leave that alone and actually like in olmec land for instance up at the basal quarries in the tuxella mountains there's actually areas where rituals today are still carried out on these particular quarry sites and so it becomes part of the whole system and so so sometimes leaving something unfinished is like also a signature of the builders of the kind of godlike buildings just building these things so there's different you know it's just a theory it's just something i've kind of been looking at over the years and i keep seeing the same kind of ideas pop up there's always the biggest stone is left in the quarry that's one thing that interests me like yeah bow back as one even at easter island is unfinished in the quarry potentially a stonehenge there's actually two quarries there's two types of stone there so so there's something about that i think the as one and the granite quarry is really interesting because some of the granite also came from elephantine island right well not all of it came which is the same area as that's why obviously but so it's transported over water then taking up the nile and all this kind of stuff so um so yeah there's more i think there's more there's more to it than just leaving it unfinished there may be a purpose for it um that still implies a global tradition it does oh yeah and again it's just a theory so you know yeah no i think that's that's fascinating yeah it is actually if it's on easter island all these sites all the places still you're still like okay whoever was doing this has still got the idea like the corey is the is the mother you leave the biggest stone there on purpose and that was happening all over the world that's a yeah that's a great level that's a great example here of the same i was trying to say like the perspective like it's it's we look at it from a work side and a thing and we're like it looks unfinished but like from a geodetic perspective there's there's significance in some of that stuff from other perspectives and that's yeah that's i think an understanding perspective such an important and it's just working out like there's always this question where there's something that's come up a lot in this uh today you know you know i talked today is uh this is it unfinished or is it deliberate like that you know it's like yeah you know are they is it an artistic thing that the certain designers or artists or designer you know whatever you want to call them were actually like this is my this is my thing this is my signature i want to leave that bit flat and that bit's going to be puffy next to it this is something i want to continue it's a tradition you know of this particular line of initiate builders you know that they only they do you know it could be connected worldwide it could be this tradition uh because i you know the people who are building stuff had secrets not everyone knew about this this was a secret tradition and it was passed down it's ended up in you know the realms of the secret societies and the free masons things like this you know because that's their kind of prerogative and you know so there's we don't know the deeper reasons but it's just it's it's so mind-blowing when you see all the because you find the so many of this what appears unfinished and also these unfinished quarries it's just utterly bizarre but you know needs more research yeah you're right now that i'm thinking about i could see esoteric you know like the the imperfection is put in there on purpose yeah like that is a tradition that is that is found in certain like i know like the i can't remember exactly all the details but the like uh arabian rug makers i think did this they would purposefully put the masters would purposely put a flaw somewhere in the in the tapestry that they were making or whatever you know and it's it's on purpose because they're saying that like i'm not i'm i'm not like the gods you know the gods are perfect uh or at least that's what i was reading that it may mean nobody i'm not sure if anybody knows but yeah the idea of leaving imperfections on purposes there you go yeah yeah and the the symmetry being not quite right in the temples like this there is some sort of meaning and symbolism and yeah purpose of some form to that stuff that's yeah you're right yeah yeah it's great while you were talking about that my brain went in a completely different direction but uh i was thinking about the um you know the magnetic field lines that are in the rock right because like when the rock was formed the magnetic field was a certain way and so a bunch of things are aligned within the stone so if if they were thinking in this geodetic sense when they're cutting these rocks out and they're taking them somewhat far away maybe they mark the stones and they put them all together where those field lines are still flowing in the together right the same i'd be interested to to know that's a really interesting idea if this was a tradition because we typically only do these core samples on things that are debated as to whether or not it was built by ancient people or it was cons you know or it was a natural thing like with rock wall and so when they find that all the magnetic field lines are the same they're like ah it's natural yeah yeah but if that was a consideration there is there's one place where they've proven that to be the case actually this is avery in england this is like the largest stone circle in the world and also olmec sites i'll make heads for instance some of them have magnetic the hot spots in the temple on the side of the head or in the belly on some of the later ones in southern guatemala this has all been tested and was researched put out there a3 every single stone in avery stone circle for instance there's 99 stones maybe 100 they're huge stones this is seriously megalithic this place and every single one um mag is magnetic north is aligned to the next stone and to the next one and to the next they're not yeah and they've been tested thoroughly somehow they knew the orientation of the magnetism within each stand and lined them all up and then down the avenues the megalithic avenues at avery all the stones point to each other in a sort of straightish line and so that is certainly something going on with that and yeah i don't know i mean i assume that was going on in egypt it's just it makes sense because of the sophistication and if we look at obviously chris dunn i mean his work on the giza power plant that would apply there very much absolutely yeah yeah very cool wow well that's uh another 30 minute segment yeah stand has run out date man that's been awesome guys it's been great we're happy to do it yeah yeah thanks for joining us hugh it was uh hello i appreciate it you've just taken me on a little guided tour of a couple of sites i've missed i really want to get back to so yeah delighted this year yeah good stuff all right guys thanks so much uh hopefully we can do it again sometime we we shall yes that's like a plan thanks thanks guys i appreciate it and hopefully see you all in egypt sometime yeah let's do that that'd be great

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Length: 113min 37sec (6817 seconds)

Published: Tue Mar 30 2021