a severe problem here at the Harris County Jail with guards using excessive force on individuals. What? The proper procedure is, is to take them to the ground and put the handcuffs on, which they eventually did not. This beating. Welcome and thanks for joining us for the second half hour of The Factor Uncensored. Harris County, under scrutiny tonight. Family members of an inmate are calling for a federal investigation into a video showing a scuffle between an inmate and Harris County Jail guards. Now, here's more of the video. This happened at the Joint Processing Center last month. One of the guards can be seen speaking to De Lisandro Chavez. Sandoval from afar. The guard can then be seen approaching the inmate before grabbing him by the sweatshirt and punching him multiple times. The inmate is seen swinging back as multiple jailers step in. Take a look at that video. Pay attention to it, the family lawyer says. Chavez Sandoval suffered head and face injuries and was given treatment before being placed in a cell. He has since been charged with assault of a public servant. The Harris County Sheriff's Office says they've reviewed the incident internally and Chavez Sandoval hasn't filed a complaint. Joining us to talk about it, attorney Eric Dick and Waller County Constable Herschel Smith. So when you get a response from the sheriff's department saying, well, he hadn't filed a complaint, are you get that number that's pretty much the normal thing. You hear most of the time. But, you know, if something like this happens, shouldn't you initiate your own investigation? Sure. It should be. I'd I'd investigate internal affairs. Internal affairs should have and go in and investigate it right away. You know, at it was clear out, you know, they can look at the video. They got a video on it and they can do their investigation. And you know, Internal Affairs need to get involved with it. They they take so long getting involved. That's why they can't clean up. So you sometimes so you got to you got to raise the standard of that. And Constable looking at the video you saw what are your thoughts on it. Well so I saw the young man against the wall, you know, then I saw the officer as he was approaching you know, and you could tell he he had some in his mind with this kid, with this young man. I don't know what the problem was he had, but evidently it looked like there was something before that have happened. But he went over like I don't know what he said, but he provoked it, and then he touched him, and then he had like he threw the first punch, you know, from the video, like at the first punch. Attorney Eric Dick, your thoughts on this? Uh, it looks expensive. Looks like, uh, it looks like, uh, the, uh, the guy, uh, Mr. Sandoval got a beating, um, at the end there, his attorney, Randall Callen, is going to take the county to pound town. It looks about if you want to know my opinion, about $750,000 to about a million, depending on how mad the jury looks. That will survive. A summary judgment will survive a 12 b six motion. And that'll go in front of a jury. And they're going to decide what the dollar figure is, that excessive force. And I will tell you, the average case, the average verdict comes at about $700,000. I think this is enough to get a jury angry. So I'd say between 750 to about $1 million. That's what it's costing us taxpayers for the clear violation of human rights that the county engaged in by beating up this poor man. All right, Constable, so, uh, when you see a video like this, you're talking about not, of course, they represent the department, but they are on the department. It is your job to train them in law enforcement. But but when you see individuals like this, this is an individual losing control. How do you maintain gain and keep those individuals? Jailers in line? Those deputies in line without losing it and causing taxpayers in the county so much money? Well, when you or can you do that. Well, you know, first of all, you hire a bunch of young people that come in that never supervise anybody or never been over a situation like that. You put a lot of power in people's hands. Like I tell people all the time and tell officers all the time when you put on this suit, you're just like Ken Clark. You know, once you come out of that, that, that, that telephone, telephone booth, you're a different man, you know? And everybody who does it look at the Batman. Batman, when he come down the pole, he's a different man. So the uniform makes it can make you or break you. So at the same time, as a young man, you never had a situation. You got to learn how to maintain coolness. You got to learn how to communicate with people and build a communication. If you don't build a communication, don't look like much communication with don't look like a choice of 2 or 3 words actually happen. Then he began to punch you know, I mean, you got to maintain some coolness. You know how people provoke you all the time. I get provoked just about every day. You know, some people wake up, they wake up with that. Who am I mess with today? But I tell people the difference between a good day and a bad day going to be my attitude. I'm not going to let you change me today. So therefore the young people gotta learn how to deal with. Even if the guy said something he didn't like, take it. I mean, words don't kill you. They may hurt it if you're so weak, but at the same time, you got to be stronger than that. Eric, how do you deal with individual personalities? Because you're no longer an individual when you work for the jail, you represent the county. You represent the people of Harris County and the sheriff. But you're taking all of this stuff personally. Is there any way past that? Well, you know, being an officer is a hard job just in of itself. There's no excuse for getting violent with people and beating someone up. But it's not a well paid job. And it's a pretty difficult and high stress job. Um, and I sadly, it there probably has been a much more violence going on, but because of the usage and integration of cameras, we're able to catch it a bit better. And I think people clearly need they need hobbies, they need things to do to get the stress off of them, because this is just an internal ization and really external ization of stress resulting in you know, violence and constable really quick. Just a few words here, he said. It's a low paid job. What do you think the average pay of a jailer is? About 50,000. Somewhere around that I can work with that. But for the risk of if you do something wrong, you're right. You
