Very Soon The World Could Run Out of Food

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At first it was the title, then the eyes, then the stache, and finally the suspenders that confirmed to me that I should not watch this video.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 51 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/Sumnerr πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 13 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

warning- annoying 20 minute video ahead.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 25 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/TheSentientPurpleGoo πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 13 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

There's something I don't like this guys videos. Stuff I happen to know a little about, I find he misses the mark. Doesn't give me high hopes for the stuff I don't know about when he speaks.

For example, he says that we went to agriculture for convenience and makes gatherer hunting sound likie a utopia. But he undermines his own convenience argument by saying what a hard life it was.

First, gatherer hunting was not a utopia in the stone ages and earlier. People rarely lived much beyond 30ish. Iirc, there are basically no skeletons to be found older than 50. It was a tough, short life usually due to some acute disease like infections accompanying a broken bone or like. Maybe they love their life, of course, but it was still a tough life.

Second, the reason for the rise of agriculture, as I understand it, is that nomadic gatherer hunters require large amounts of land, like 7 square miles to support just one person under ideal conditions otherwise more. Look at your average forest, do you see food in it? That's the case with a lot of land, very little fit for human consumption for people to gather. And since paleolithic man was eating 100 grams of fiber a day, estimated from found stool samples, we gathered lots and ate lots of plants.

Anyway, as the human population rose and rose, suddenly nomads encounter each other and some might form tribes through extended family if they already had not done so. And what does each tribe want? Access to the best and richest land. Eventually, the population rises so much, that tribes bump into each other and either go to war and/or establish boundaries. A game of musical chair with land ensure.

Once locked onto their land, the population is still growing but the forests, savannahs, etc only yield so much on their own when left to their own devices. From all the plants they eat, someone notices how the seeds they left somewhere grows into more food. And they do things to get more plants. Agriculture is born. Not convenience, necessity.

Contrary to popular culture, even native Americans grew food).

The other thing I didn't like was he made it sound like farmers were monocropping form the beginning. This really depends on the area, buy my great-grandparent's farm in Europe, they grew many multiple things at the same time along with a small collection of animals. There was never just one crop being monogrown. That on top of seasonal crop rotation.

It was the government in the 1950s that stepped in and told them to monocrop or they would lose subsidies. The government's reasoning is that farmers would specialize and increase yields. But that also leads to problems that "modern farming" would "solve" through chemical agriculture and what not.

I greatly prefer Howard Lyman's talk on the subject, as he was a farmer/rancher:

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 18 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/StarchRunner πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 12 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

Submission statement: see the title; skip 11 minutes in for the core of the argument.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 5 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/jsalsman πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 12 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

Video essay is easy to digest, but quality may vary. This one seems poorly researched and has no sources, which is fine if you're watching for fun, but not if you use it as a source of information.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 4 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/incoherentbab πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 12 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

Monoculture

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/[deleted] πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 12 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

Video is adequate. Beyond this level people would lose interest.

He gained my support after clarifying not actual milks make some coffee types taste like shit; facts. I also appreciated the jab at vegans. Because let’s be frank only way most people will abandon meat is if it hyper expensive (which has traditionally been quite accessible) or if it literally is no longer accessible (which could happen longer term).

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 2 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/EmpireLite πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 13 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

Sure.

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/grimoirehandler πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 12 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies

This sub says this every year

πŸ‘οΈŽ︎ 1 πŸ‘€οΈŽ︎ u/runmeupmate πŸ“…οΈŽ︎ Oct 13 2020 πŸ—«︎ replies
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Channel: Thoughty2
Views: 500,856
Rating: 4.8879824 out of 5
Keywords: biodiversity, food, ecosystem, farming, documentary, future, biodiversity loss, diversity, steak, meat, cattle, farm, milk, alternative, vegan, veggie, vegetarian, veganism, full documentary, vegan food, farmer
Id: 3bA5uHJDJW0
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Length: 21min 24sec (1284 seconds)
Published: Wed Oct 07 2020
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