INTELLIGENCE ON THIS PLANET. CERTAINLY. SO WE HAVE BEEN DIGGING INTO SO MANY OF THE ALLEGATIONS THAT DAVID GRUSCH HAS MADE AND WE HAD TO DIG INTO THIS TOO. WE HAD TO LOOK INTO IT. IT'S A WILD ALLEGATION. AGAIN, I GET IT. >> CATHOLIC CHURCH AND UF OWES. WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET REACTION FROM THE BAD AGAIN. WE'VE BEEN VATICAN. WE'VE BEEN WORKING BEHIND THE SCENES. JOINING ME LIVE STEPS FROM THE VATICAN RIGHT NOW IS NEWSNATION. EXECUTIVE PRODUCER SUZANNE DE PINTO. E WAS PREVIOUSLY A ROME BASED REPORTER WHO HAS ALSO WORKED IN THE VATICAN PRESS OFFICE. THANK YOU FOR BEING ON WITH US TONIGHT TO SEE. I'VE GOT TO ASK YOU, YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR QUITE SOME TIME. YOU'RE IN ROME. WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN ABLE TO LEARN FROM VATICAN OFFICIALS ABOUT WHAT DAVID GRUSCH HAD CLEANED TWICE IN THAT INTERVIEW. >> GOOD EVENING, BRIAN. YOU CAN SEE SAINT PETER'S BASILICA BEHIND ME, PERHAPS THE MOST ICONIC AND POWERFUL SYMBOL OF THE CATHOLIC CHURCH AROUND THE WORLD. AND YES, AS YOU SAID, THIS IS A SHOCKING CLAIM. THE FACT ALLEGATION THAT THE VATICAN MIGHT HAVE KNOWN ABOUT NON HUMAN INTELLIGENCE HONORED. SO I REACHED OUT TO THE VATICAN PRESS OFFICE FOR COMMENT. THE VATICAN HAS NOT RESPONDED. NOW, THAT'S NOT UNUSUAL. THIS IS A HIGHLY CONTROVERSIAL ISSUE AND IT'S NOT UNUSUAL FOR THE VATICAN TO 2 TO TO NOT WANT TO COMMENT ON AND SUCH A CONTROVERSY ALSO, THOUGH, IF THERE WERE CREDIBLE INFORMATION ABOUT LIFE ON ANOTHER PLANET. LIFE IN ANOTHER PART OF THE UNIVERSE. I WOULD ALSO BRING UP A LOT OF THEOLOGICAL QUESTIONS AND A LOT OF DEBATE. AND SO IT'S IT'S NOT SURPRISING THAT THE VATICAN DOESN'T WANT TO SPECULATE ON THIS ISSUE RIGHT NOW. >> I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN TRYING FOR AT THE LAST WEEK OR SO TO GET A RESPONSE FROM THE VATICAN. DO YOU EXPECT THAT SOMETHING WILL COME OUT EVENTUALLY OR ARE THEY JUST SAYING LIKE NO COMMENT. WE ARE NEVER GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. >> WELL, LOOK, WE DO KNOW THAT THE ARCHIVES PERTAINING TO POPE PIUS THE 12TH JUNTA FICKETT WE'RE OPEN HAVE BEEN OPEN TO SCHOLARS AND HISTORIANS. THAT HAPPENED IN 2020 POPE FRANCIS. ANNOUNCED THAT HE WAS GOING TO OPEN UP THE ARCHIVES TO ADD TO HISTORIANS AND SCHOLARS. SO THAT THEY HAVE BEEN LOOKING INTO HIS PONTIFICATE AND OF COURSE, IT WAS A LONG PONTIFICATE. HE WAS POPE FROM 1939 TO 1958. SO FAR. WE THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF BOOKS THAT HAVE COME OUT FROM HISTORIANS. THEY FOCUS MORE ON THE POPE AND AND WORLD WAR 2. BUT WHO IT? THAT'S NOT TO SAY A HISTORIAN OR SCHOLAR COULD CONTINUE TO DIG UNTIL THOSE ARCHIVES AND FIND SOMETHING. SO WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT WHAT COMES OUT THAT COULD TAKE A LONG TIME BECAUSE LIKE AS I SAID, IT WAS A LONG PONTIFICATE AND EACH EVERY POPE I'M COMING COMMUNICATE WITH A LOT OF PEOPLE. THERE'S A LOT OF OFFICIAL. >> COMMUNICATION WITH NOT ONLY HEADS OF STATES AND PRESIDENTS BUT SO ASSOCIATIONS AND PARISHES. SO IT WILL TAKE QUITE E SOME TIMTO GO THROUGH ALL OF THAT INFORMATION. YEAH. IT'S INTERESTING THAT THEY ARE JUST NOW RELEASING WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS. POPE PIUS THE OFFICIAL ARCHIVE. I JUST THINK BACKS LIKE A PRESIDENTIAL ARCHIVE, A PRESIDENTIAL LIBRARY WHERE THEY HAVE ALL THE DOCUMENTS. THOSE ARE USUALLY ONLY DOCUMENTS FOR 8 POPE PIUS THE 12TH WAS THERE FOR 20 YEARS. AND YOU MENTIONED AT THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEBEEN REVIING THE ARCHIVE SO FAR ONLY CERTAIN PEOPLE HAVE BEEN LET WERE MORE INTEREST AND OTHER TOPICS RELATED TO WORLD WAR 2. IT JUST SEEMS LIKE A LOT TO GO THROUGH. I WONDER IF ANYONE HAS EVEN GONE THROUGH EVERYTHING TO SEE IF THERE IS SOMETHING IN WRITING RELATED TO YOU. A PIECE FROM THAT TIME PERIOD. >> BRIAN, I'M SURE THERE'S A LONG LINE OF HISTORIANS AND SCHOLARS WHO WANT TO GET INTO THOSE ARCHIVES AND ACTUALLY. >> DIG THROUGH SO, YOU KNOW, I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS GOING PLAY OUT OVER YEARS AND MAYBE EVEN YOU KNOW, SO FAR WE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION COME OUT AND THERE'S BEEN NO INFORMATION PUBLISHED ABOUT THAT. SO WE'LL JUST WE'LL JUST HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE WHAT COMES OUT THIS. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO MUCH CONTENT FROM A PONTIFATE WHETHER THOSE ARE OFFICIAL LETTERS. COMMUNICATIONS, ALL SORTS OF, YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT A POPE DOES JUST, YOU KNOW, AND OF COURSE, THAT WAS MANY YEARS AGO. BUT STILL THE POPE IS A FIGURE THAT COMMUNICATES WITH NOT ONLY CATHOLICS BUT THE WORLD. SO THERE'S JUST A TON OF INFORMATION TO GO THROUGH IT'S INTERESTING, THOUGH. I MEAN, THE IDEA THAT THE VATICAN MIGHT KNOW SOMETHING RELATED TO THIS. IT ISN'T REALLY THAT FAR FETCHED. I DON'T THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE REALIZE THAT THEY HAVE A WHOLE UNIT OF THE VATICAN. >> A DEDICATED TO STUDYING ASTRONOMY. THAT'S RIGHT. THE VATICAN HAS A VATICAN OBSERVATORY. THE DATES BACK TO THE 16TH CENTURY. SO FOR THE LAST 4 100 YEARS THAT OBSERVATORY HAS BEEN DEDICATED TO STUDYING ASTRONOMY ASTROPHYSICS AND REALLYJUST THE ORIGIN'S, ORIGINS OF THE UNIVERSE. SO IT'S SOMETHING THAT NOT A LOT OF PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT. THEY IT IT IS DEDICATED TO SORT OF THE THE CONNECTION BETWEEN FAITH AND REASON SO THE VATICAN SAYS THAT THEIR FAITH INSPIRES THE SIGNS THAT THEY'RE GOING, THAT THEY'RE STUDYING. AND AND YES, SO THAT OBSERVATORY IS OUTSIDE ROME JUST NOT TOO FAR FROM HERE NEAR THE PAPAL SUMMER RESIDENCE THEY ARE VERY ACTIVE AND THEY DO ALL SORTS OF THINGS THAT IN FACT, JUST THIS SUMMER, THEY THEY RESUMED THEIR SUMMER SCHOOL FOR SCHOLARS AND ALSO STUDENTS UNDERGRADUATES AND GRADUATE STUDENTS WHO COME TO THE VATICAN OBSERVATORY AT FOR 4 WEEKS AND THEY DISCUSS ALL THESE SORTS OF THINGS. 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