Vaping deaths media frenzy?

this video is about an unfortunate instant that happened in America recently but it's also a scientific exploration of how vaping devices work you see recent in America there was a speed of people admitted to hospital the lung problems and it appeared that they'd been vaping something and they had been vaping conventional eliquid they'd been vaping a cannabis type extracts with solvents and they were from an unknown source they weren't from some established source so really they were vaping just unknown chemicals and several hundred were taken into hospitals lung problems breathing difficulty and of those at least five have died and the Food and Drug Administration they said we'd strongly recommend that people avoid vaping cannabis oils until we've actually got to the bottom of this the Center for Disease Control took a rather more need juror garage maybe they were just playing safe they said stop vaping everything and unfortunately that's what the media has jumped on they've said vaping deaths and vaping kills when in reality there's no actual evidence of that toll yet so here's the situation the people were vaping things that you wouldn't normally find in a cigarette cartridge they were vaping oil and they were vaping something called dr. ferral acetate which is otherwise known as vitamin E acetate and it's a kind of solvent used to blend the oil and this is what's theoretically in these cartridges because of an unknown source there there's no real saying what was in them and it's most likely that a combination of these caused an issue in the lungs called lipid pneumonia which is where when fats get introduced rather intimately to the lung tissue and the lungs don't like that they don't like the they don't like breathing oils it's not you know a great thing technically speaking if the THC that people wanted the THC which stands for tetrahydrocannabinol had been in some sort of water soluble extract and it would have gone into standard e liquid fine and probably atomized fine and this would have happened but it's happened and the main thing is here don't they unknown cannabis seed druggie tape things if you don't know the source because I you just don't know what chemicals are in them that is the main message here however the other message is that at this point in time ordinary vaping if you've given up cigarettes and gone to vaping don't be alarmed by the message the media is putting out because it's not related to standard eliquid and at this point in time standard e-liquid as best as we know because it's a fairly new thing is relatively safe to vape it certainly couldn't be worse than cigarettes could it with four hundred and thirty four hundred eighty thousand in America alone dying every single year from cigarette smoke inhalation and all of those about 41,000 being non-smokers who just passive breathed in I'll talk about that later on because let's take a look at what's an actual eliquid the stuff that doesn't seem to cause many problems at all glycerin this is this is glycerin here it's a medicine as well as a food additive it's used as a humectant it's it's used to make cakes moist and keep them moist in their packaging it's used on skin and creams it's used to deliver drugs in both liquid form and it's also used in vapour form so this there is research on the vaping of glycerin for other purposes and the ingredients here are there should have say the instructions for use here to relieve coughs and sore throats mix the recommended amount which is partly to 5 milliliter spoonfuls with a little water and drink slowly and you can do that three or four times a day and this stuff is just a very sticky liquid completely water soluble in fact it's sort of it's so hygroscopic it loves water so much that it actually sucks out the air and this bottle if I just left a ton uncapped and put it on a set skills every so often it would gradually get heavier because it absorbs so much water out there the main purpose of this will let let's show you the main purpose of this in an e-cig is to create the cloud of fog let me just put this cartridge in that I filled with mixture of glycerin and just water that it's just a little bit of water to actually thin it down a bit to make sure it feeds okay and also the water is quite important as part of the process of making the far because I'll show you in a moment so this is just glycerin on its own it produces quite a thick fog of vapour now I can show you what's creating that vapor let's jump the gun here let's go straight to what's creating that vapor glycerin propylene glycol the other things you might find like nicotine in vaping countries I don't I don't vape nicotine I just this not I don't like them the whole tea aspect to it the main thing is that the water has a boiling point of render 100 degrees Celsius queer as the other constituents of the liquid like glycerin propylene glycol have much much higher boiling points so what happens is that because they're all mixed together in an intimate contact and liquid when you heat it up in this wick with a heating element wrap around it then it forms ittle bubbles of vapor and the vapor inside is mainly water but it forms a little bubble of the liquid itself which is the glycerol and the propylene glycol I should mention glycerin go serene with an e in the end and glycerol are all the same thing but these are the bubbles form of the glycol and then they go and they burst and they just create tiny little droplets of the glycol that if you looked at them through a microscope it would look like a little sphere of glycol float in the air and that's what the fog is it's basically just a cloud of tiny little liquid droplets just like real fog on a foggy day that's what clouds are made of - but not glycerin they're made of water the propylene glycol it's used to thin the let the e-liquid but it's also used as a flavor carrier because for some reason propylene glycol is a very good serve material for mating the flavor enhances the flavour in some way but on its own this cartridge is just got propylene glycol in it all its own let me just blows out it produces a little wisp of much lighter fog that very quickly disappears it doesn't hang about as much it's more Savola tell maybe that's what actually mates the flavor that's what brings it into you as such the other things you'll find in the e-liquid are nicotine if you use nicotine Oh nicotine in its pure concentrated form it's quite toxic if you've got it in your hands it go through the skin root cause problems you have to observe special handling precautions because it really is very toxic in its unique firm however and it's very very dull lit from and they use only the tiniest quantity any liquid then it's just it's a stimulant but it doesn't pose much of a risk it doesn't there's no known problem to the inhaling of nicotine alone and the real hazard in electronic cigarettes for me is the flavorings because they don't state what they are and they're just a whole hodgepodge of chemicals this is the bit that is the unknown variable in standard a liquid and you can avoid that you can reduce the risks associated that by reducing the amount of flavoring or just if you want you just not having any flavoring at all because on its own and the eliquid I mean this vaping device here this cloud chaser device it's just filled with a base liquid it's 80 percent glycerin 20 percent propylene glycol that would normally be a 50/50 mix for devices like this the blue device but in this case it's just purely that there's no nicotine added there's no flavoring added and Alex I'll describe what it tastes like in its own so as these devices do it produces a super thick vapor and the taste it's just a mild sweet neutral taste it's not unpleasant on its own and it doesn't have any of these synthetic chemical flavorings in it the Scout on the other hand does this is based on standard commercial e-liquid and it's a cold highs in this particular flavor and it's kind of got a fruity literacy taste to it I'm not sure what that there you know what it's supposed to represent but unfortunately it just to me it represents the chemical flavorings and you get these bottles I mean that when you go into a vape shop it's all about choosing the flavor and some people believe this is encouraging kids to actually take up vaping people who have smoked before and certainly I have to say I don't do all the time but quite enjoy it when I do just because I like the visual effect and I could say to kids that the safest thing to breathe is air and don't take up vaping but if I tell you not take up vaping that's going to make you take up vaping just out of out of defiance because that's what happens it's the same reason when I was young I tried cigarettes they were awful and but I was told don't smoke so I immediately went and got some cigarettes and tried oh yeah that wasn't a good result it was rather nauseating so you can at this point in time compared to the number of deaths caused by tobacco and cigarettes if you consider that the people breathing this the biggest thing biggest hazard export get exposed as a flavours of anything ever arise in the future that there are problems with this I don't think it's going to be the glycerin or the propylene glycol or even the nicotine that causes the problem I think it's going to be related to some of the chemicals used in the flavorings and you can you can adjust that you can buy a base liquid from eBay in big bottles I have a big bottle base liquid one moment please [Music] so you can buy bottles of base liquid but note that by it from what appear to be largest established companies that only really sell food grade products because then you know they're good to actually make an effort and they've got batch numbers and they're set up monitoring it and the processing and this stuff here well it's gonna last fridge it was only about fifteen pounds including shipping if you get this you get your favorite vape flavor and you're just a mix you know you fill your device with the base liquid but then just add a little drop of your preferred flavor then you're going to get the flavor but it's just gonna be a lot weaker it's not going to be that spring them room with your freshener effect now earlier I mentioned passive smoking and how it kills about 41,000 smokers and non-smokers in America every year I can totally relate to that because when I was the apprentice I for a while I took a bus through quite a long bus turn in the morning to remote branch of the company and the bus was full of ladies going to work in factories and they smoked like chimneys and it was just the stench that the bus was just thick with smoke it was honestly you might as well have been sitting in a burning building breathing all that crap him and the clothing just stank and people asked if I smoked because they could smell off me but it was just the fact you were exposed to that with vaping what people are breathing in is atomized a result of glycerin propylene glycol pretty much what you find in fog fluid in a nightclub and the aromas if you go into toilet facility and they've got air fresheners in the wall that put those chemical aromas or even in someone's house the chemical aroma air fresheners as I call them ear polluters I call them and you're breathing in these of aroma chemicals why do I even call them flavorings there are rumors is a better description so is passive vaping gonna be problem mmm us know aside from the NOI ins I don't see it being any different to the people spending maybe five six hours at the weekend in a nightclub every weekend with that ear absolutely fogged out to the hilt there are no obvious signs that that has ever caused a problem so compared to breathing the particulate smoke with all the other chemicals associated I don't think passive vaping is actually an issue other than the annoyance of some people's choice of aroma so that's really it if you do smoke and you've been put off by the media saying stop vaping immediately it's you know you could make an informed decision you can go online you can research this you can find that the medical industry has actually been doing quite a lot of research into vaping devices they've looked up past research they've done new research and so far they've not found any major evidence that the standard ingredients cause a problem but the one thing they're all in agreement with is the flavorings are a completely unknown variable but now you've seen the video now you've seen how the folks created and now you know what are the unknown variables here you can make a choice yourself that's how you want to do that but at this point in time my opinion is that if you've given up smoking to take up vaping instead particularly with some of the more aggressive liquids like the tobacco industry has been putting out to encourage the same sort of addiction then I'd say yeah they've got to be better than cigarettes I can't see them being more harmful than cigarettes at this time so they are probably still the better option

Channel: bigclivedotcom

Views: 143,924

Rating: 4.8823528 out of 5

Keywords: lung, damage, health, safety, deaths, cannabis, thc, cbd, oil, solvent, vitamin e, tocopheryl, hazard, vaping, safe, how, works, fog, glycerin, glycerine, glycerol, vg, pg, mono, propylene, glycol, nicotine

Id: 4SX9yYVscEo

Length: 14min 18sec (858 seconds)

Published: Wed Sep 11 2019

Reddit Comments

[u/decaptcha]

When I heard about people having serious health problems associated with vaping, I wanted to know what they were vaping, how much, what temperature, etc., but they were not forthcoming with any of that information. I'm not surprised by what I've learned here.

[u/iBendUover]

The second I heard vaping-related deaths mentioned in the news, I immidiately thought that this has to do with oil-based liquids. It's not rocket science, nor is it even newsworthy, that breathing in oilfumes can result in chemical pneumonia. This is getting blown wayyyy out of proportion.

When my tinfoil hat stands most erect, I'm even thinking the tobacco lobby is helping this mediastorm along.

[u/[deleted]]

This video is really well thought out and articulated.

Big tobacco is going nuts over losing market share to vaping and I'm convinced they're throwing all of the money they can to curb public opinion against it. Any company can make the mod components, but the liquid itself can be made by literally anyone for really, really cheap, which means the market is saturated and uncontrollable; that is, unless people start passing initiatives on the ballot and politicians introduce legislation against it.

One big indicator that tobacco money is involved is that all of the news reports I've seen seem to quietly and passively indicate that you're better off smoking than vaping, which is total garbage. Granted, yes, you're better off not vaping at all, but for some, it's an amazing resource to quit smoking. For me, since I work in a cigarette smoke filled environment, it keeps my nicotine withdrawals away while I'm not at work. Otherwise I would have turned to chewing or smoking as well.

Mindless disinformation focused on creating hysteria. At least in the Soviet Union everyone knew their news was bullshit.

[u/salmon10]

Its such Bulls hit. I smoked cigarettes for a long time and wanted to quit and vaping has helpee out a lot