Unholy Trinity Down Under: "Biblical Absurdity"

you you what has there ever been anybody in the history of history we've been converted by a street preacher I mean is there anything somebody who walked in and saw some cat on the soapbox with a sign screaming in a microphone you're all going to hell then they drop to their knees to go you know you're absolutely thank you all very much now as he mentioned my name is not Erin its Orin and this confuses a lot of people but not quite as much as my hyphenated nom de plume I chose this name back when I needed to find a handle for talk about origins back in the days of use net and I called myself ahran Rob because it sounded like almond raw which is a combination of the Egyptian Sun God and also their air God I wanted to call attention to a composite deity which I saw as a template for the modern concept of Western monotheism almond raw and the Jewish God Yahweh or Jehovah or however you pronounce it both started out as magically endowed people like all gods did once upon a time nowadays believers say that God the Father is just a spirit that he doesn't have a body but the Old Testament says that the father God walks talks eats sits on a throne waves his hand hides his face turns his backside and cheats at wrestling remember that the Old Testament was written by people who didn't believe in Jesus so they're not talking about Jesus Jesus is not the God of Abraham Moses did not pray to Jesus he prayed to Jehovah the same God Jesus prayed to so Jewish people represented the father God as having a body the body of a man and we were supposed to be created in God's image and that was supposed to be a physical image which always had me wondering why was God's image that of an evolved ape at one time all the gods were either magically endowed people like the sixth divine generation of an Ummah Elish or they were anthropomorphised elementals like the river OPSEU plunging into his lover Tiamat the spirit goddess of the ocean a man was a Thebe anair god who has represented both ways at different times at some point believers in Amon dropped all of his human attributes and the god of air simply became heir in his elemental state he was invisible which meant he could be anywhere which meant he may as well be everywhere and this is how God's become omnipresent we feel the breeze move against our bodies all the time and since no one yet knew that air was made of particulate matter but everyone knew that you would die if you couldn't breathe then it was believed that the movement of air was somehow spiritual that air itself was a spirit in Genesis 1 it says that the earth was without form and void and only the Spirit of God moved over the surface of the waters they're talking about the wind the Spirit of God is the wind of God enough of that everyone look closely at a bottle of hard liquor and notice the visible fumes of alcoholic evaporation that's why drinks are classified as wine beer or spirits you get the same thing when you see smoke rising from an old oil lamp and can you see where I'm going with this desert deities and demons were often depicted like the jinnee early Islamic literature depicts the jinn as devious air elementals essentially Devils which could manifest out of thin air they weren't usually confined to bottles or lamps but were more often described as nomadic spirits free roaming and that's why wandering whirl winds are called dust devils and there's also a comparison between the medieval vision of the genie and our modern interpretations of God for example remember how Elijah was taken up into heaven in a whirlwind imagine how these superstitious primitives would have responded to a full-blown tornado such a transition was easy for Yahweh because we supposedly say his name whenever we breathe in and out through our mouths way that's perfect for an air God in the earliest creation myths the gods would create life like clay figurines and literally breathe into them the breath of life to animate them and the Bible was written mostly for things this is actually how Joe Adam was created in Genesis 2 this is according to the Semitic tradition of the Golem spell then the Bible was written by and for Jewish people mostly and the Jewish traditional belief was that the first breath of a child was the moment when its body became infused with the spirit becoming a living soul and of course the flood of Noah in Genesis 7 was supposed to drown everything that had the breath of life in fact in the single wisest comment I could find in the entirety of the Bible again shows better than any other passage how our notions of spirituality actually stemmed from a misunderstanding of the natural aspects of air according to this passage men are just animals and to believe otherwise is mere vanity for who knows whether the breath of man ascends upward of the breath of the Beast descends downward into the earth and this is according to the new American Standard Bible the New Revised Standard Version the American Standard Version and the King James Version all replaced the word breath with spirit and this translation illustrates the gaseous origins of man's notions of his own soul all that talk of spirits is literally nothing but hot air and isn't it great when the Bible says that man is a part of nature and not apart from it that all of men's musings of a special purpose or just his own vanity because here we have the Word of God saying that nobody knows what it is if any of this is even true and it evidently isn't and usually when you hear the phrase god only knows it means no one knows really and that's why the Bible contradicts itself so often you know why they say bless you when you sneeze because they used to think that once your spirit was blown out of your body that a foul spirit might enter in this makes even more sense when you think about how these people reacted to smoke inhalation especially in places where hemp and poppies grew naturally now this makes you rethink how Moses talked to God when he happened to cross a burning bush same Oh what kind of bush was that can you describe the leaves for me in some instances God took the form of smoke and that's why so many sacrifices were done by burning someone or something on an altar there are places in the Bible that actually condone human sacrifice your firstborn sons were supposed to pass through the fire to the other side ashes to ashes as the soul Rises with the fire turning flesh into spirit in Exodus Moses is said to have followed a column of smoke by day which was seen as a column of fire by night then he went up a mountain it was wreathed in smoke there's a very found me burning bush and where he heard the awesome voice of God that's why you hear stories of fire and brimstone raining down from the sky because the Abrahamic God was apparently a volcano God mixed with an air God and eventually a Sun God this is a detail from a calendar from medieval Europe and as you can see amongst all of the zodia logical symbols we have the Christian God carrying the Sun across the sky in a chariot that was apparently appropriated from a pagan predecessor now the impetus to change Yahweh's image from the terrifying volcano God in the Old Testament to the relatively subtle air got depicted as a talking cloud in the New Testament a likely scenario I think was illustrated in an old Arnold Schwarzenegger movie Conan the Barbarian says his gut is strong strong in his mountain everybody can do an Arnold Schwarzenegger is no victory but as his companion says his God is greater hisses the four winds and he is the everlasting sky your God lives underneath him now amusingly there is a reference to the four winds in the Bible Ezekiel 37 5 through 10 has a necromancer going into a boneyard to revive an army of the dead and this is where Yahweh the volcano god strong on his mountain praise to the four winds and has them breathe the breath of life into these into these skeletons and his living breath causes them to regrow flesh and skin now doesn't matter that there's no volcano along the route from Egypt to Canaan because there evidently wasn't an exodus and apparently wasn't a Moses either the legend of Moses appears to have been based on at least four earlier characters from neighboring areas there are so many parallels between the different gods and heroes it's obvious that the myth makers borrowed adventures and elements from Elder stories and it's just how to tell a good fable it also seems that the Hebrew people found it necessary to exaggerate their gods to make it bigger and badder than everyone else's oh yeah oh my god knows everything and he is everywhere he can do anything he wants if he commands a thing to be he will speak it into being and it will manifest out of nothing that's my god strong in his mountain the everlasting sky big big talk with nothing to back it up but we still got a pro to know that the holy fable is the absolute truth and the infallible Word of God not subject to human authors with their inconsistencies in contradictions however project Reason org has compiled a list of some 439 contradictions of various types in the Bible and here's a couple of examples the Gospels say that Judas Iscariot died in the potter's field but who owned the field and how did he die Judas sold Jesus out to the Pharisees either before Passover or after Passover depending on which of the Gospels you read and the priests gave him thirty pieces of silver with which he bought the land but he also gave the money back to the Pharisees and they used that same money to buy the same property but they didn't buy it from him because they bought it after he died in a version of the story he'd never bought anything in the version where he threw the money back into Pharisees he went to the potter's field and hanged himself but in the alternate reality where he bought the field he went there and fell headlong busting his guts asunder now believers have tried to reconcile how both of these accounts could be true at the same time but however you do it it's hard to fall headlong when your head is tied to a tree so the bible does contradict itself a lot but believers say how do you explain all of those fulfilled prophecies like for example somebody brought up that there was this Jehovah's Witnesses back in the 1800s who said that in 1914 there would be a significant development and that's when World War one happened I did explain that and I said okay go back to any year in the 20th century and find one where no one could say there was any significant development that year if it's just as vague as a fortune cookie or worse if this word represents this or that word symbolizes that then you can make anything into a fulfilled prophecy just as important so what else did this great prophet say would it be like when Pat Robertson said that the world would end in 1982 or when Harold Camping said it would end in 2011 Wikipedia has a list showing that the world was supposed to have ended 79 times before the turn of the 1st of the 20th century that means that those are the prophecies that had already failed before 1901 and of course we've had many failed since then the prophecies of the Bible are just as bad for example Jesus failed to meet the requirements of the Jewish Messiah he didn't gather the Jewish people from exile and return them to the Jewish temple he didn't bring world peace and he didn't convert the whole world to worship one God he was supposed to have done all of these things before he could be called Messiah and he couldn't do them after he died because he was supposed to be an invulnerable warlord who couldn't be killed but the story starts out wrong and just keeps getting wrong her and Christians tell me how Jesus was prophesied by Isaiah in the line that says that a virgin shall conceive and bear a son and shall call his name Immanuel now doesn't matter that Jesus was never referred to as Manuel that name kinda means the sort of guy that Christians think Jesus was and it doesn't matter that the word that was used meant on married maiden and not necessarily virgin what should matter is that there's no way this could refer to Jesus the story is it in like 730 BC the king of Judah was concerned that he was going to be conquered by Syrian and Israeli forces you know the headlines in this new part of the world never change do they you have three religions of peace all worshipping the same God of love and forgiveness and yet they've been at war with each other continuously each since their inception anyway Isiah eases the Kings mind with the prophecy God said don't worry about it's not going to happen Isaiah said that this maiden would have a child and there wasn't anything special or magical about the child but that once the baby was old enough to choose honey over curds then the enemy kingdoms both of them would fail and the king of Judah would know that he was safe before this child could reach the age of reason Isiah could have said give it a couple of years you'll see but being a prophet means that you have to drag everything into weird parables so he wasn't talking about Jesus he was talking about an unremarkable kid would have lived and died centuries before Jesus now that means that the New Testament was wrong - because Gospel of Matthew 1:23 says that an angel came to Joseph in a dream and recited the line from Isaiah 7:14 as if that counts as a fulfilled prophecy so whoever wrote Matthew didn't read or understand Isaiah but that's not the worst of it because the Bible says it Bible prophecies never fail on the small scale they fail every way they can when the maiden turned out not to be pregnant Isaiah got her pregnant himself because somebody had to do it and then he forgot to name the kid Emmanuel instead God told him to name the boy Maharshi Lao hush Baz imagined being longing to that religion so Isaiah literally up his own prophecy but that's still not the worst of it because ii chronicles 28 says the prophecy failed again because israel and syria did attack and overwhelmed the king of judah killing hundreds of thousands of women and children wiping out the royal family and carting away all of their bounty so what Isaiah said would come to pass didn't and what God said would not come to pass did is it possible for a prophecy to fail worse than that yes the prophet Ezekiel said that Nebuchadnezzar to the king of Babylon would conquer the island city of Tyre that he would destroy it utterly breaking down all the walls streets and towers and killing or driving away everyone therein then God was supposed to step in personally and caused the island to sink into the deep and be lost forever it was supposed to be it would never be found again because it would be unrecognizable just a barren bit of rock in the midst of the ocean no more than a place for fishermen to spread their nets biblical literalists are forbidden to admit that the Bible could ever be wrong about anything which is why so many apologists were employed full-time trying to conceal all the many errors of Scripture being desperate to defend this prophecy some have argued that it may have taken many nations and it may have taken centuries to do it but that eventually the prophecy was fulfilled to the letter or they'll say that it was sort of fulfilled depending on how you look at it but no this prophecy failed every way that it can fail because Nebuchadnezzar failed he never even got to the island city another army did eventually take it but that was another nation centuries later not Nebuchadnezzar Ezekiel said that once conquered by the wrong army in the wrong century the city would never be rebuilt but it was it was supposed to be reduced to bare rock forever uninhabited and unrecognizable but it was never lost or abandoned the city was wasn't supposed to recover but it did and within just a couple of decades was already fending off the next wave of attackers instead of sinking it was built up with a causeway connecting it to the mainland the original Island remains above water the ruins of the old city have been found again and that site was always inhabited and still is how many different ways can this prophecy fail even later chapters of the Bible talk about people still trading with Tyre so even the biblical authors knew that the prophecy had failed an Ezekiel said while pretending to speak for God because that's what prophets do he said I will make you a desolate City uninhabited I will bring the deep over you and bring you down and you will be no more though you will be sought you will never be found again and you will know that I am the Lord prophets talk like that because God always needs some self-righteous asshole to speak for him if only Ezekiel knew about Google Maps right then he would be able to see the city that his King didn't take that was rebuilt where people still live on an island that never sank and he would know that he is a fraud and when people talk about the prophets of God they rarely mentioned Ezekiel and it was part of why he got everything wrong and this is largely because he made the mistake of adding an expiration date he said that Egypt would be desolate barren with not one man nor beast setting foot therein for forty years and again this was supposed to happen during the reign of Nebuchadnezzar never happened at all God couldn't hand Egypt over to him for the same reason that he couldn't hire over either it seems that Ezekiel works at a provincial God whose military capability could be bested even by the simple machines of the iron age so the demands this prophet made were either beyond his God's ability or God simply refused to do as he was foretold and remember that a prophet is someone who pretends to speak to and for God because for reasons which should be suspicious God only talks one-on-one when you're all alone and there's no witnesses and he only talks to crazy people I think religious belief generates a kind of crazy because he sees you when you're sleeping he knows when you're awake he knows when you've been bad or good and when you masturbate contrary to popular belief there is no divine wisdom in the Bible in fact there are several places where we see the gut really isn't even all that smart like it Exodus 17 14 where God talks about the Amalekites God would rather you not know who al Malaki Vitt is so if you do know that name think about why you know that name and remember that the Lord said to Moses write this in a book as a memorial and recite it to Joshua that I will utterly blot out the memory of Amalek under heaven so if God is all-powerful and all-wise and wants to blot out the memory of then how is it anybody knows that name today God failed because you can't remove someone from history by writing reciting and rehearsing their name as history this book is no moral guide either in fact there is no morality to be found in this compilation of fables that isn't overturned soon thereafter for example if you take you always Commandments collectively he seems to be saying honor thy father and thy mother if you don't they have my permission to kill you and if the preacher's daughter turns out to be a party girl like they so often tend to be the Bible says you're supposed to set her on fire and put her to death because girls don't get to have fun God tells Moses thou shalt not kill then in the next scene he tells Moses to kill every man in his brother mind you before the story of the Ten Commandments Moses already knew that it was wrong to kill somebody because he had murdered an Egyptian and he knew that he had to hire the body or hide the body and Moses also commanded his soldiers to slaughter women and children and he also endorsed the rape of pre-teen slaves that's another problem with the Bible God he's a really shitty judge of character look at Abraham ready to slaughter his own son because of the voices in his head what we now recognize as the symptoms of psychosis were admirable traits back then and twice God's poor planning skills and lack of foresight has caused him to have to scrap his divine plan and kill everybody why is it necessary to kill everybody every time you make a mistake and kill everybody except for the one guy that's righteous enough to save in God's eyes and a story of Sodom and Gomorrah the only man worth saving the good one the righteous one by God's judging and he's not on a bell curve this was the one guy who's righteous this is the guy that freely offered his own virgin to a violent mob to be gang-raped rather than risk his house guests virginity then when his wife was conveniently removed from the equation he impregnated both of his own children and he accused them of having gotten him drunk and seducing him if you believe this story you could probably believe any other story in the Bible because this ridiculous excuse is as unbelievable as anything else I don't know anyone today who is sick or a vile enough to be one of God's favorite people take another example Noah the only guy we're saving and he turns out to be a naked old drunk cursing his kids again for what was dis fault and speaking of Noah back in the States there is an organization called Answers in Genesis that is trying to build a newest Ark theme park featuring a real wooden Ark built to scale just like in the Bible the project is estimated to cost one hundred and seventy two million dollars and I think it's funny that even with hundreds of skilled craftsmen and modern hydraulic equipment that they can't do in a few years what mythology says one 600 year old man did with three untrained laborers using only primitive tools from the Bronze Age if people want to see how realistic this isn't they should use this structure to houses ooh and then they would see what it would be like for a crew of eight to shovel levity tons of every day out of the one window that God said they could have could you imagine being at an ark that has one window and all those animals and of course my biggest issue with religion in the Bible is the teaching of creationism and Answers in Genesis is behind a lot of that as you can see AIG teaches that belief in evolution ISM will convert good Christians into radical feminists comedy Nazi pagan racist drug abusing pornographic perverts Answers in Genesis is the biggest grossing marketer of myth information in all of Christendom reportedly with more than twenty million dollars annual revenue and they have expanded to include a twenty seven million dollar animatronic museum dedicated to the idea that dinosaurs and people live side-by-side just like in the Flintstones every other creationist organization is either connected with Answers in Genesis or cites them and that makes their CEO Ken Ham the kingpin of pseudoscience nihilism he lives in Kentucky now but he's originally he lives in Kentucky now but he's originally from Brisbane so as an American atheist as an American atheist addressing in Australian our audience allow me to say thank you for saying you're sitting cus Ken Ham seriously though and I am serious about this we need to be a lot less tolerant of people that are pushing this kind of wrongheaded dogma yes in free countries they have the right to be wrong and to believe whatever ridiculous absurdities make them happy but that is only an individual right they don't have the right to deceive and manipulate other people and that's what they're doing emotional emotionally yoking credulous innocence for financial and political gain biblical creationism has no truth in it and has been disproved on every testable claim that it makes this is already a matter of public record both scientifically and legally people should be told in no uncertain terms that we know it's wrong because we can show that it's wrong and whenever educators or legislators try to push that any way we need to respond with appropriate legal action calling them out for what they are and that is no joke you

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