>>> AND REALLY QUICK, FINALLY, YOU KNOW WHAT -- IT IS NOT GOING TO BE QUICK AT ALL. IF YOU ARE FOLLOWING STUFF ABOUT ALIENS AND UFOS AND WHAT LAWMAKERS ARE SAYING, YOU KNOW THINGS ARE VERY CONFUSING RIGHT NOW. AND DEEP FACT CHECKING TAKES TIME. JUST KNOW THAT I AM WORKING ON IT. BUT SPEAKING OF TIME, WE ALWAYS HAVE TIME TO TALK ABOUT THE BIGGEST QUESTIONS IN THE UNIVERSE WITH ONE OF THE GREATEST MINDS IN THE UNIVERSE, AND ANOTHER THAN THEORETICAL PHYSICIST, DR. MICHIO KAKU. PROFESSOR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING THIS WHOLE UFO SAGA. LET'S PUT ALL THAT ASIDE. SO MUCH OF THE CONVERSATION TODAY IS ABOUT UFOS AND IT IS CENTERED AROUND THE IDEA THAT IF THEY DO EXIST, THEY HAVE COME FROM SOME OTHER PLANET. BUT INSTEAD OF JUST ASKING WHERE THEY COME FROM, DO YOU THINK WE SHOULD BE ASKING WHEN? >> FIRST OF ALL, JOURNALISTS ALWAYS SAY FOLLOW THE MONEY. PHYSICISTS SAY FOLLOW THE DATA. PREVIOUSLY WE DO NOT HAVE MUCH DATA TO GO BY EXCEPT SOMEBODY SAW SOMETHING IN THE SKY. WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? NOW WE HAVE HOURS OF VIDEOTAPE BY THE U.S. MAYBE. WE CAN MEASURE THE DATA FROM THESE VIDEOTAPES. WE NOW KNOW THAT THESE OBJECTS CAN TRAVEL BETWEEN MACH 5 AND MACH 20, UP TO 20 TIMES THE SPEED OF SOUND. THEY CAN DROP 80,000 FEET WITHIN A MATTER OF A FEW SECONDS. NOT ONLY THAT, YOU CAN ALSO FLY UNDERWATER. WE HAD VIDEOTAPES OF THEM DIVING INTO THE OCEANS AND THEN SWIMMING UNDERWATER. NOW WE DON'T HAVE THAT CAPABILITY WITH OUR ROCKET SHIPS. THEY ARE NOT MANEUVERABLE LIKE THAT. THEY CANNOT GO BETWEEN MACH 5 AND MACH 20 WITHIN A FEW SECONDS. BUT THESE OBJECTS ARE NOW ON THE TAPE. YOU HAD VIDEOTAPES OF THESE THINGS. AND WE ARE TAKING THEM APART FRAME BY FRAME TO ANALYZE WHAT IS THE STATE OF THEIR TECHNOLOGY? SO FAR, IT SEEMS TO BE BEYOND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN BUILD WITH OUR ARSENAL. SMACK THERE SEEMS TO BE A BUNCH OF DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES, ONE OF THEM IS THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF TRAVELING THIS FAST, THEY TRAVELED ACROSS THE UNIVERSE. I HAVE GOT TO ASK, IS IT LIKELY THAT WE ARE SEEING A HIGHER INTELLIGENCE COMING FROM A DIFFERENT PART OF THE UNIVERSE, OR IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THEY MAY BE SLIPPING THE BOUNDS OF PHYSICS OR DIMENSIONS AS WE UNDERSTAND THEM TODAY? >> WELL, IT USED TO BE THAT THE BURDEN OF PROOF WAS ON THE EYEWITNESS ACCOUNTS. MARTHA, I SEE SOMETHING IN THE SKY. THAT IS NOT A BURDEN OF PROOF. NOW THE BURDEN OF PROOF HAS SHIFTED. NOW THE MILITARY HAS TO PROVE THAT THESE ARE NOT EXTRATERRESTRIALS. AND REMEMBER THAT A SATURN ROCKET TRAVELING AT TREMENDOUS VELOCITIES WOULD TAKE 17,000 YEARS JUST TO REACH THE NEARBY STARS. AND THESE OBJECTS APPARENTLY CAN NAVIGATE BETWEEN STAR SYSTEMS IN LESS THAN 17,000 YEARS WHICH MEANS THERE IS A TECHNOLOGY BEYOND ANYTHING THAT WE CAN BUILD HERE ON PLANET EARTH. SO THIS IS NOT PROOF. WE ARE STILL ANALYZING THESE PHOTOGRAPHS, BUT WE NEED MORE DATA. AND FOR THOSE OF YOU OUT THERE THAT WANT TO EMAIL A SCIENTIST ABOUT YOUR SIGHTINGS, WE HAVE A WORD OF ADVICE, THE NEXT TIME YOU ARE KIDNAPPED BY A FLYING SAUCER, FOR GOD SAKE, STEAL SOMETHING. A PEN, A PENCIL, A CHIP, ANY TECHNOLOGY. STEAL ANYTHING, BECAUSE THERE IS NO LAW AGAINST STEALING FROM AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL CIVILIZATION. AND MAYBE YOU WILL HAVE BRAGGING RIGHTS AFTER YOU COME BACK. >> I CANNOT WAIT TO SEE THAT PLAY OUT IN AN INTERGALACTIC COURT. WELL, DR. MICHIO KAKU SAID IT WAS OKAY. YOU THINK IT IS MORE LIKELY THAT THESE COULD BE POSSIBLY TIME TRAVELERS? YOU KNOW, IT SEEMS LIKE A LOT OF THE DESCRIPTIONS THAT WE HEAR ARE STILL RELATIVELY CLOSE TO A HUMANOID FIGURE OR USING CONVENTIONAL SHAPES THAT WE ARE USED TO. AND YET, YOU LOOK AT ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PLANETS OUT THERE, YOU KNOW THAT THE COMPOSITION IS NOT LIKE IT IS ON EARTH. WHAT DO YOU THINK IS MORE LIKELY, THAT THESE THINGS ARE TRAVELING ACROSS SPACE, OR TRAVELING ACROSS TIME? >> I WILL PUT IT THIS WAY, ON AVERAGE, WHEN WE SCAN THE HEAVENS AND LOOK FOR PLANETS, ON AVERAGE ONE OUT OF EVERY STAR HAS A PLANET GOING AROUND IT. NOW WITHIN THE GALAXY WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TENS OF THOUSANDS OF STARS, AND YET EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM ON AVERAGE APPARENTLY HAS A PLANET GOING AROUND THEM. SO HOW MANY PLANETS ARE THERE? WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BILLIONS, BILLIONS OF PLANETS RIGHT IN OUR OWN BACKYARD. SO WE CANNOT DISMISS THE POSSIBILITY THAT THESE OBJECTS COULD HAVE A TECHNOLOGY BEYOND ANYTHING WE CAN MUSTER. NOW TRAVELING NEAR THE SPEED OF LIGHT, WE CANNOT DO THAT. THERE IS A THEORY THAT SAYS THAT WORMHOLES MAY ALLOW US TO TAKE A SHORTCUT. A SHORTCUT THROUGH SPACE, JUST LIKE ALICE WOULD GO THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS TO GO FROM WONDERLAND TO OXFORD. SO THAT IS A TECHNOLOGY THAT DOES SEEM TO BE WITHIN THE KNOWN LAWS OF PHYSICS. THEY COULD SWEEP ACROSS THE GALAXY IN THE BLINK OF AN EYE. DIMENSIONAL BEINGS THAT COUL PROCEED AS FOURTH DIMENSION AN THEY MIGHT NOT SEE EVERYTHIN AROUND US? >> IT MIGHT BE HARD AND BEFORE THEY PASSED AWAY, THEY MAKE US TAKE IT PAST THE SPEED O LIGHT. AND AS FAR A SPACE IS CONCERNED IF YOU GO BACK TO DO I REPEATEDLY, YOU WILL CREATE TH LOOP AND BLOW THE WHOLE THIN APART AND THAT TIME MACHINE WILL EXPLODE. IF YOU GO BACKWARDS IN TIME, THEN IT MIGHT MOVE INTO TW RIVERS, IN WHICH CASE IF YOU SAVE ABRAHAM LINCOLN FROM BEIN ASSASSINATED, YOU'VE ACTUALL SPLIT THE UNIVERSE IN ONE UNIVERSE ABRAHAM LINCOL SURVIVES THE ASSASSINATION ATTEMPT. THAT'S WHEN IT FORCES INTO TWO RIVERS IN THAT SITUATION, YOU DON'T HAVE THE TIME LOOP YOU DON'T HAVE THIS INFINITY O THE UNIVERSES GOING BACKWARD AND FORWARDS, BACKWARDS AN FORWARDS THROUGH THE TIME LOOP THEN MAYBE, JUST MAYBE YOU CAN GO BACKWARDS IN TIME >> BUT YOU CAN'T MOVE IT OUT EITHER >> THAT'S THE BEGINNING OF THE MULTIVERSE WITH THAT WE RAN OUT OF TIME
