UK Govt to be sued over trans ideology being taught in primary schools | Dr Anna Loutfi

Dr Anna lutvy and the bad law project are suing the government for trying to teach children as young as five divisive issues families of some of the children have come together to file a class-action lawsuit against the UK government and the Department of Education they're calling for personal social health and economic education known as pshe to be abolished in schools and for parents to have the right to withdraw their children from the lessons dealing with sex health and relationships I'm delighted to say that equality and human rights Barrister Dr Anna Lupi joins me now what's going on can I ask you firstly about what's going on in schools because I've seen some materials from various parents in terms of sex education some of it has been quite shocking actually but I think still people deny that there is any kind of problem here yeah I think when you introduced us now the topic you talked about and the department for Education teaching children in schools that is not the issue what's the issue is that we have Rogue actors who are posing as Charities um what we call the third sector these organizations they are completely unregulated they produce the materials sometimes they produce the materials outside of the national jurisdiction so we'll find for example certain local education authorities using materials that have been taken from the United States and there is no oversight on the content of these materials and what we are finding is that advocacy groups are choosing uh you know their own pick and mix ideas of what children should or shouldn't know there's no oversight parents are not really invited to be part of that discussion and what we do see is that some of these materials clearly engage both the civil law and the criminal law in terms of their suitability for children at certain age groups so there's the the element of the the sexual explicit aspect I mean I have a friend who's a parent of a boy of six she showed me some of the materials and she said when she tried to have her son removed they told her you can't the government says this is compulsory so although it is an outside agent providing the materials the school seems to believe that the government is making them do it do you think that's possible yes 100 I've seen the materials myself I think we've lost thanks to the third sector which has now seized complete control of Education in this area called pshe we have lost control of regulation in the in the same manner as we would lose control if there had been a military coup and we had a hunter taking control of the schools we're simply not allowed to have the conversation about what these materials are for what the purpose of them is but more importantly we have as a nation speaking about the UK we have lost any discernment about what age groups are suitable for certain kinds of materials we simply have stopped having that conversation all materials provided by the third sector two schools are considered to be appropriate because the third sector has appointed itself experts in the area and therefore if something is considered age inappropriate by a pair parent or a teacher but the but the experts the third sector says no no this is absolutely fine that becomes the end of the conversation and any parent Any teacher and any young person who has qualms as we saw in the school in East Sussex where two 13 year old girls raised questions about what they were being taught in pshe they're actually insulted and called bigots yes so it's not just about the age inappropriate materials there's also the ideological aspect to this so children are being taught and I've seen materials that prove this in a number of schools children are being taught Often by outside agents that there are over 100 genders or that we each have an innate sex Soul a gendered soul this is effectively a quasi-religious belief taught us fact now a couple years ago kemi badenox stood up in Parliament and say that the teaching of critical race theory in schools was against the law is the teaching of gender identity ideology as fact also against them it is and let's be very clear this isn't just about gender identity although that is the issue that the parents that have come to me have raised but let's be very clear the Education Act 1996 is very explicit that the promotion of any idea that is contentious is unlawful and by promotion what the statute says is that you cannot present an idea that is contentious as if it is the only idea or the only version or the only world view available on that topic there has to be a dispassionate fair and non-partisan presentation of the fact that would apply to a whole range of it so a teacher could say there are many people who believe in such a thing as gender identity there are a minority of the country but there are people who believe that most people don't believe that but let's have a discussion about that would be okay that would be that would be lawful that would be law that isn't what is happening in fact I can I can cite materials my favorite example is the one of the gender Galaxy which when you talk about um religious cults we have a gender Galaxy and one of the one of the sets of materials that I saw where the the gender sun is circled by all of these different gender identities uh little planets going around and it's a huge glorious Galaxy with all of these exciting planets and in the background in the distance there's this sad little Sun called the Gen called The Sex assigned at Birth Galaxy and there are two little tiny sad planets going around that sun in the background and they are male and female the messaging is really clear but it uses pseudo-scientific astronomical imagery to present the idea that in the universe there is the exciting Galaxy that is all these choices of gender identities and then there's the boring male and female assigned at Birth I mean if you are a young person and you would like to be cool or you'd like to be interesting or you'd like to be different this is a clear pathway for you to have an identity that signals you out as interesting and unfortunately we know as James might my dear friend James who was just on now as he pointed out we know that this is this links children into Pathways social and medical which are irreversible and which do result in mutilated bodies to what extent are the likes of Stonewall and mermaids responsible for this you know those those are two groups that do believe in gender identity ideology they are effectively religious groups now um but I remember seeing a leaked presentation for mermaids which was a training presentation in which they showed a spectrum of male and female according to Barbie on one end of the spectrum and GI Joe on the other basically reinforcing what I would say are 1950s stereotypes of what it means to be male and female to young people is that the problem yes I mean Stonewall and mermaids are two two actors there are many other Charities as well we need to understand as a country the relationship that they have with the department for Education why the department for education is Consulting such people and not Consulting people with a different view but there is another issue here and that is the gender the the equality act 2010 has a list of protected characteristics on the basis of which you cannot discriminate one of those characteristics is gender reassignment as a lawyer the only way I can know what gender reassignment actually means in law is if I go to something called the gender recognition act 2004 which makes it it clear that that is a procedure that is available only to persons of 18 and over right so therefore the question is why have mermaids and Stonewall decided to redesign the law according to their fantasy world where gender reassignment is a process that is something that anybody at any age even in the womb can engage in and uh you know anybody who questions that is is a bigot and you're not allowed to raise very basic safeguarding concerns about what might happen to somebody under the age of 18 who starts the process of interfering with their biology people are going to be astonished by this because Stonewall has been accused in the past of representing the law as they would like it to be that's exactly what they've done now how can that be the case in that why hasn't the government called them up on it and why are they so embedded I mean certainly in like the SMP in the Welsh government they seem to be very much embedded I mean the Welsh government is pushing forward all sorts of these kinds of pshe programs which teach gender ideology as though it is fact well because we live in a society which is not only anti-intellectual which means that sound bites rule but we live in a society that is also driven by repetition of slogans and mantras if you say something often enough it becomes reality as a lawyer it doesn't matter to me what people say it's what the law put into black and white and I'm finding that even lawyers even government ministers are disregarding the black letter of the law and they are simply repeating mantras that you hear on social media trans women are women uh you know gender identity is a protected characteristic these are not these are not legal matters these are not legally based arguments they are mantras they are advertising slogans and they are adopted by powerful corporations in order to promote ways of life and products that profit them of course activists would say but you know at school with young people it's very important to teach them that if children are struggling with their gender or if children are gay or or from a minority group that they do need protecting and they need to be shown that we live in an inclusive world what would you say to that I would say that we struggle with a lot of things but we cannot as a society adopt a position where we say anything that you struggle with Society will embrace your your your your your desire to be something other than you are because if that is true many young people struggle with suicide ideation so therefore we should affirm suicide in young people wherever somebody wishes to self-harm anorexics who wish to you know starve themselves to death or people who wish to cut their arms with razor blades are expressing an inner struggle and an idealistic notion of escape from their reality it is not the business of schools to facilitate that self-harm and we have to be as a country and a culture and as a moral Society Discerning about what we Embrace what we encourage and what we don't the fact that a child is struggling is not in and of itself justification for the entire Society to facilitate a pathway to self-destruction so it looks like from your perspective the law is the way through this absolutely just challenging it in the courts clarifying the law all of that and the law is clear we don't even it's already clear it's very clear yes I believe in the rule of law unfortunately many of my colleagues in the legal profession seem to have abandoned that idea and find it quite old-fashioned but I believe in the rule of law and I believe that the gender recognition Act is very clear that gender reassignment is a process that is available for people of 18 or over and anybody promoting the idea that there's something other that the law says that there's something called gender identity and you can have it at age three age five age seven H nine is a liar and the question we should be asking is why are they lying and I would say the old-fashioned profit motive is one particular Avenue that we could go down but there may be others as well and I I find that it's very sinistering very quickly uh Dr lovely how can people support bad law project go to our website we also have a case that parents are bringing against the department for education to hold the department for education to account for the fact that it has neglected to address this issue and that has resulted in lots of young people self-harming socially transitioning sometimes medically transitioning they have a case you can find the crowdfunder at um asleep at the wheel democracy3.org please support us because the parents need protection from cost risk Dr Anna lutby thanks very much for joining us [Applause]

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Published: Sun Aug 06 2023