Types of Conlang
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Channel: Artifexian
Views: 208,247
Rating: 4.9550285 out of 5
Keywords: Artifexian, worldbuilding, conlang, language, linguistics, morpheme, lexicon, dictionary, analytical languages, synthetic languages, polysynthetic langauges, oligosynthetic languages, fusional languages, agglutinative languages
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Length: 8min 27sec (507 seconds)
Published: Mon Nov 13 2017
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Hey, /u/Artifexian. I’ve watched the video, and I have a few… criticisms. In chronological order (I typed these up as I was watchign the video)
I don’t know how common this view is among actual linguists, but the way I always think of derivation vs inflection is a bit different from what you present here. In my view, derivation is a function: stem → stem, while inflection is a function: stem → word. This explains why in most languages, the inflection is the “last thing”, as many languages don’t allow further modification of a word (but e.g. Greenlandic has derivational clitics, which go word → stem)
You list isolating as the most extreme case of analytical (I’m not sure whether that is a useful split in the first place, but I digress), but for some reason, you choose to show polysynthetic as a separate “category” from synthetic, when it really would just perfectly mirror the isolating from before.
What exactly do you mean with “looser grammar” (in isolating langs)? I suspect you mean more context-based, but I find it a bit of an … unfavourable wording, as it may sound like these languages actually have less grammar, which is certainly not true.
You kinda show agglutinative and fusional as distinct and exclusive concepts, when really, it’s just a spectrum between two extremes that are barely if ever met (e.g. in Bantu languages, morphemes will often affect tones of nearby morhphemes, so classifying Zulu as strictly agglutinative is already problematic because of that). You do mention this, but only later, and it’s kinda misleading.
It would’ve been nice to get some points on south america onto the map. Or an example of a non-indo-european fusional language.
5:45, oh boy. Putting oligomorphemic on the same spectrum as morpheme count is quite misleading. It’s a different spectrum altogether (number of morphemes per language, rather than per word) and can exist in any of the forms you showed before. Just see the linked document above for examples of isolating and fusionally synthetic oligoes.
Finally, and this is probably more important than the other points: Your title is misleading. I was expecting a video that explained the difference between logical, auxiliary, naturalistic, engineered … languages, not one on morphological typology.
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But Artifexian polysynthesis is not just VERY SYNTHESIS it's a combination of polypersonal agreement and verb prominence (typically noun incorporation, but also topicality (topic-comment-like structures) and lack of satellite marking)
Hey /u/Artifexian
Somehow your video managed to get auto-removed. This usually happens when something triggers reddit’s spam-filter. I don’t really know what happened, either way it should show up now. I’ve also reflaired it to resource, which I find more appropriate.
Your descriptions are really more types of language in general, rather than types of conlang. When we think of types of conlang, we tend to think about different sorts of features to describe them. Auxilliary langs, art langs, logical langs, naming langs, etc.
A bit tangential, but: dude, please don't pronounce Chinese in your videos if you're not going to put effort into at least approximating how those words actually sound. No one can be perfect at a language they haven't studied, but pronouncing <qu> as [kʰu:] (it's [t͡ɕʰy] in Standard Mandarin) is really distracting and makes it seem like you haven't bothered to put in the minimal effort to even look up how the word is actually pronounced. I understand that you can't be expected to learn a language just to read an example in a video, but at least typing the sentence into Google translate and trying to imitate the pronunciation heard there would have been an improvement. You'd honestly have seemed more credible if you just eschewed reading the Mandarin altogether and just read the gloss, since this is about morphosyntax anyway. In future, I suggest doing one or the other.
Hey Artifexian,
Just thought I'd say I love your videos.
Thanks for doing what you do :)
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