Tucker Carlson Tonight 8/14/23 E.P 16 FULL END SHOW | Tucker Carlson Tonight August 14, 2023

we decided to do the only interview with Robert F Kennedy Jr conducted in the last 15 years that doesn't mention vaccines but if you're interested in why we have found ourselves at war with Russia or who killed his uncle President Kennedy and why it's worth watching Bobby Kennedy Jr thank you for joining us uh so I noticed when you showed up you've been on the road for weeks you had no secret service with you which is a little weird given your people that your father was murdered while running for president as you now are why wouldn't you have Secret Service protection well I you know I did do a tweet on that that got 30 million views when when we got rejected I we applied in May for Secret Service protection there are actually Secret Service protection was only allocated to the nominees to the parties prior to 1968 when my father was killed they changed the law immediately and all the people who were running against them including including George Wallace immediately got Secret Service protection so the law says that you're entitled to Secret Service protection automatically 100 days out um but the President also has discretion to give Secret Service protection to any candidate any candidate for any reason and there are criteria which is that you have to have 15 of uh polling results for a limited period of time but he even can overrule that for example President Obama was given Secret Service protection 441 days out or five no 551 days out even though he had uh only I think five percent uh support at that time um my Uncle Teddy was given Secret Service protection 450 days out um even though he had not even declared for his presidency and so Carter he and Carter hated each other Carter uh was President Carter was you know the president of his own party and Teddy had been enormously critical of him and personally they had they had a very personal antipathy for one another and he ended up running against him oh and he was moving into that decision to run Carter in a very classy move gave him Secret Service protection oh we applied for it I get a lot of threats a lot of death threats and I get you know a lot of uh people who are for example about two weeks ago a mentally ill person made it to the Second Story of my house and that is a very very common okay you're inside your house yeah inside my house or you know somebody who is working there I stopped them and then call the police and we have a we gave the Secret Service a 67 Gavin Becker who you've had on this show is the Premier runs the premiere security service in the world um put together a 67 page report which included 28 pages of you know of all the threads of you know typical threats against me and um and other that I should have Secret Service protection and we I assume the president would give it to me because um you know it just seems like bad judgment not to give it to me you know if you go even on my Twitter feed probably one out of I don't know every 30 or 40 comments says oh you're gonna get killed or something like that you know it takes notice of the peculiar threats to my family who a family members who are in this business oh it's something that you know the average American is aware of then your name is Robert F Kennedy yeah and the um and so it was an odd decision I got a letter uh Gavin actually got the letter because he had been doing and by the way I want to say this the Secret Service themselves were wonderful they were very very encouraging and they were very helpful at every step along the way and I I believe and I can't speak for them but I believe that their assumption was that they that we were going to see service protection in fact they told Gavin we're gonna send somebody out there within 10 days the interview Cheryl and Bobby and um to you know to tell them uh what it's going to look like because there's a lot of questions about you know do I go to the gym do I have them you know all of these questions that I don't know the answers to and they they come and they have it they have a standard process all right forming oh but then they went dark and they said a decision is made very quickly within 14 days is what they told us and they said we have eight details standing by ready to go so we can do this very quickly and then they went to Art and for 88 days we didn't hear from them and then I got the letter from the orcas Alexander my orcas who's the director of DHS um saying that we've determined that you don't need secret service but it's very obvious and you've confirmed it that there are threats against your life against your family that's known and so if they deny you protection and they know that what message are they sending I I don't really know what they're they're doing and by the way you know we've looked and um there's a guy called Jeremy Hammond who's not a really good article a really article about the past and he was not able and we were not able to find a single presidential candidate requested uh protection from the president and was not given protection you know Herman Cain got it I think 500 Days out uh Jesse Jackson Shirley Chisholm George Bush and Ronald Reagan got something five or six hundred days out when they first Ran So it's just standard operating procedure and particularly people who are polling around anywhere over 15 percent which I have been for four or five months now um art you know regarded as uh it's been treated as pro forma and I am the out I'm the single outliner that we could find that was tonight's Secret Service why do you think that is I think um you know I think that the NC is playing Hardball and let's see this I think the least malevolent uh interpretation that you can put on it is that they know that I'm gonna have to have some kind of security service and that typically would cost me you know to do to do real security service between 100 and 200 000 a month because you have to pay the protectors you have to pay for their transportation of course the cards and uh the hotels the foods and all of this and it's very expensive because I'm traveling every day so I think they you know they probably feel like they can bleed me white by you know and making making sure that I'm not uh that I'm not spending that money on advertising or organization but then I have to raise a lot of money or my own protection but I don't know I mean I'm just speculating about that does it strike you that the bite Administration pays for personal security for zielinski but not for you no well they you know listen John Bolton is still has a secret service detail um still yeah still he hasn't been in many years and he didn't do a good job in all the president's family um have Secret Service details you know Hunter has a secret service detail when he goes to the court every day he has four or five cars that are coming with him in a very very big detail oh and you know many government officials who are ex-government officially with the Secret Service told us and what and you can go to look at Jerry Hammond's Jeremy Hammond's report uh which you can find on uh I think you just go on the internet put Jeremy Hammond and you know RFK Secret Service um uh uh he you know he shows that that literally nobody no presidential candidate many many other people are receiving it and I and I'm really like an outlier so I mean that raises the larger I mean you're running against Biden right so obviously you're not on his Christmas card list anymore but it does raise the bigger question why do people in Washington have this and not just in government but also in media have this kind of special loathing for you this hatred I don't know that I cannot answer that question I I am um I'm kind of I'm shocked even oh you know I've been uh I say maligned for many years because the stuff that I was doing with vaccines the kind of the uniformity of the the vitriol against me in the mainstream media and the dishonesty of it that you know virtually every article contains uh not just outright not just mischaracterizations but also just outright lies things that any fact Checker could look up and determine we're not true and they all are doing it whether it's Vanity Fair or whether it's the Atlantic Monthly or at Washington Post Boston Globe on uh there's just there's virtually no exception uh what do you think your your crime is I think part of it is that there's been and again I don't know I can't explain it somebody else I know somebody will explain it in a way at one point we're like oh that makes sense but right now what it seems to me is that there's been this alignment this political alignment that I think really started with Fox News back you know when Roger was running things there where he he overtly made it a political Network he aligned it with a Republican party and he said we're going to push there agenda and up until then that is considered been considered a journalistic ethical breach the networks were were supposed to at least pretend neutrality and uh and the newspapers as well but um now I think that business model works so well for the fox and again that I think MSNBC and CNN adopted the same uh business model and then there's been this big consolidation in the media where there really is no Independent Media you have every newspaper in this country every radio station every TV station um almost all the Billboards and most of the large internet content providers that are now owned by five companies you know that was illegal under the 1928 communication the radio act on today it's been uh that has been what's happened we've had this big consolidation and I think the profit models for Wall Street which now you know it's BlackRock and Vanguard and it's eight Street which on them all and they have to oh the news divisions have become business models business um profit centers and they've aligned themselves they've figured out that their strategy is to align themselves with the DNC or the RNC that's the only thing I can that's the best explanation and it's probably not a very good one but and you're the way your uniformity oh yeah well but its effect is to ignore stories that are objectively the most important stories I mean wherever you fall on those questions there's no like denying that the war in Ukraine is changing the world it will change history most of this stuff is a footnote that's a that's a book and yet the coverage of it is like not even yeah so for example the president adds much more consequential well it's the most consequential yeah coverage of May which is there's no questioning of these orthodoxies and when it comes to the Ukraine war I mean we're being lied to about it in what way well I mean we were lied to from the beginning you know we had this comic book depiction that which we see on every war there's a bad guy who's like uh you know unspeakably evil yes who's planning World conquest or a terrorist attack on you know the on America and we have to be the good guys and go in and stop it and you know the Ukraine the background of Ukraine war is much more complex than that you know the the U.S has been involved and particularly the neocons in the white out I wouldn't say particularly I'd say a group of people that are known as neocons since 2001 have been talking about putting nato in Ukraine now and I'll give you some the background in 1992 the walls came down and the Soviet Union collapsed Gorbachev went to Tony Blair and to President Bush who were the UK and U.S presidents at that time and said I'm going to do something extraordinary that basically is going to have the rest of Russian history branding me as a traitor to my country I'm going to withdraw 400 000 Soviet troops from East Germany and allow you to reunify Germany under NATO troops so you're going to move NATO to the Hostile hostile Force into our barracks in our base is I'm going to do that and the only commitment I want from you is that once I allowed Germany to reunified to become part of NATO that you will never move NATO further to the east because we're going to now release all of these uh Soviet states that were part of the Soviet Union you're going to become independent states and we don't want NATO moving into those and James Baker who is the Secretary of State at that time famously said we we promise that we will not move Nato one inch to the east Gorbachev now did that and he's now you know despised in in Russia um and and then in 1996 in 1997 so five years later Brzezinski who was the first kind of the father of the neocon movement the neocon with the neocons represent in eight you know in a sentence is that they were a group of people who believed and you know Donald Rumsfeld and Jonathan you and Paul Wolfe as Robert Kagan Victoria Newland who's now at the time their belief was that the U.S had won the Cold War and that Victory gave us the um the privilege of dominating the world using our Superior military unit power status and our Superior military status for the next Century so their principal blueprint document is called project for New American Century in other words America would own the 21st century so Brzezinski says okay we should start start this process by moving NATO into all the former satellite States well it's that and this was in 1997 at that time George Cannon was still around now Georgetown as you know as the principal architect of the Cold War containment policy he's arguably the most important most respected Diplomat and States than in American history oh he said if you do that you are going to provoke a violent response from Russia they cannot live with NATO on their borders they cannot any more than we would live with you know with a Soviet Alliance in Mexico and and uh in Canada um the at that time that the uh Bill Perry was was Clinton's Secretary of State and Bill Barry said if you do this if you go forward with his plan I'm going to resign because it's so foolhardy you are you are forcing Russia into a violent military response and the so the U.S the Soviet Union on at that time I who is now ahead of the of the CIA said the same thing it it is it's the worst mistake America can make to move NATO to the east so we went ahead and did it we moved it not it was not one inch but one thousand miles 14 countries and then we put nuclear-ready missile launchers Aegis missile systems which are made by Lockheed and can take tomahawk missiles 12 minutes from Moscow we could in 12 minutes decapitate the entire leadership of Russia and we put those in Poland Romania and we we then tried to move it into it they don't the Ukraine so you remember when my uncle when when Russia puts up put missile systems nuclear medicine systems in Cuba and my uncle would have had to invade he was able the reason Russia put them there then is because we had put nuke's Jupiter missiles in turkey and Italy my uncle and father made a a secret deal with Ambassador Del Brennan where we where they said to him look we understand you're angry you cannot live with Jupiter missiles in Turkey that's why you put your missus in Cuba if you remove your medicine from Cuba within six months we will remove artists from Turkey but nobody says what the deal was and that's what happened so now we're back and we've again put you know nuclear nuclear reading missile systems right next to Russia and now we want to go through the one thing that Russia has said and Putin said again and again and again this is a red line before Putin the Russian leadership was saying it is a red line you cannot go into Ukraine the Russians have been invaded three times from you our country's never been invaded the Russians were invaded three times three the last time they were invaded Hitler killed between 20 and 40 million Russians Hitler killed one out of every seven Russians in my uncle's speech to um uh his most famous speech in American University in in 1963 in July of 1963 he said the American people he said you know we are all taught we want one World War II but we didn't to World War II the Russians wanted and the sacrifice thing made to destroy Hitler was beyond anything Americans can imagine he was trying to tell the American people you have to put your yourselves ourselves in their position understand what they're doing and he said uh he said a third of the country was leveled every city the forest burned the cities were leveled the forest and Fields burn imagine if that happened from the coast the east coast of the United States every City forest and field from here to Chicago that's what the Russians put up with oh we have to understand this that Ukraine is a red line The Invasion came through Ukraine and they can't live with it it's an it's a security issue for them that is beyond our almost beyond our comprehension and so you know we've had so that suggests the point is war with Russia the point was war with Russia and in fact you know that neocon said that again and again that are in in Biden when he was at so and let me get back to that okay because that is absolutely true the um Biden you know was as well first of all in 2014 to go through the modern history 2014 there are riots and it's called the Madonna rebellion in Ukraine which we're not told that we are financing those riots the newspapers never told us our government never told us Aid which is a CIA front put 5 billion dollars into funding those riots those riots lead to the uh to a coup d'etat against the first elected democratically elected government of the Ukraine it was government that refused to choose size and to say we're going to be on the side of the West so we wanted them out a month before that government is overthrown Victoria Newland who's you know the part of the the centerpiece of the econ ideology and who is now a high-level official into the state department as a secret call with the U.S ambassador which is tape recorded and is now public which anybody can go and look up where she is picking the new cabinet for the Ukraine which for Ukraine which is uh you know which is a U.S Western cabinet so they're picking the new government a month before the old government is that how democracy is that democracy when Tori Newell in picture government well that's that's the point is USA ID doesn't really do and the CIA don't do democracy you know the CIA is overthrown I think 83 governments between 1947 and 1997 that's a third of the government's on Earth and most of them were democracies oh it doesn't do it doesn't do democracy it does good it does so then you know to put the rest of this history and we put in a U.S a Western Government the Russia everybody says oh the Russians started this by invading crime here but put yourself in Putin's position and I'm not an apologist for Putin by the way he went into Ukraine it was illegal my son went over there and fought against it you know and and risked his life in the U in a car key even Rebellion I'm not making excuses for him what he did was brutal it was illegal and it was unnecessary but we have to understand our role in the provocations and so so if you're in Putin's position now you're looking at Ukraine and Ukraine is being run by a pro-us government what's the first thing he thinks they're going to take vladophone stock which is the port in the Crimea on the Black Sea which has been a Russian Port their only warm water port for 347 years it's where the Russian Navy is their sub is it's everything else and he says now this new government is going to invite the U.S Navy in to take over our facilities we got to go in there and take it back so he goes into Crimea he goes in and takes Crimea without killing without firing a shot or killing a certain a a single person the Crimean population is is largely Russian and they welcome The Invasion so you know again I'm making excuses for him but I'm saying we have to understand my uncle always said we have to understand the route the the um the position of our adversaries and you know what what forces are they dealing with um so so then in 20 then the Russians now now there's you know as soon as we put in that new government the first rule they pass is to make the Russian language essentially illegal in dumbass and Lucas where 90 of the population Russian and they and there there's then peaceful Uprising which people begin dying you know they turn violent now which side made them violent is it a dispute but it's not a dispute the Russians were now being treated the Russia ethnic Russian population in Ukraine is now being treated like red-headed stepchildren they're not you know they're being slapped around and they're being abused and they're not being allowed to practice their culture or their language and so there's a vote then in the in uh into where they vote 90-10 to join Russia Russia says no Putin says no I don't want you but let's sign an agreement that protects you so they put together an agreement with France Germany and Russia called the Minsk Accords the Minsk Accords say leave dumbass and Lucas as part of Ukraine but make them semi-autonomous so they can speak their own language and so the Russians who live there are going to be protected from Violence by the government and um and the the only the Russian Parliament or the Ukrainian Parliament won't ratify the Minsk Accords but France agreed to it Germany agreed to it and Putin agreed to it so then zielinski runs in 2019. zielinski is a comedian and he's an actor and I'm not saying that in a derogatory way because my wife is a comedian an actor but I'm saying it because here's a guy with no political background who wins the election with 90 of the vote why did he win the election he won the election because he ran on a peace platform he ran promising that he would sign the minister courts he gets into office the minute he gets there and he's told everybody I'm going to start in the Minsk Accords and settle the peace with Russia he he suddenly pivots and the we don't know what happened but the the irrational assumption is that the U.S government told him he could not do that so the Victorian Newland and and Anthony blanken and April Haynes oh who's the dni director of National Intelligence all of them you cannot have at peace with Russia plus people within you know alternationalists within Ukraine told him if you sign that we're going to kill you and a lot of people say anyway they threatened him with death and that is pretty well documented then Russia invades but Russia only invades and so we say oh look he you know Putin is trying to take over Europe but but they only send in 40 000 troops I think there's three and a half million people and yeah so they clearly did not want to take the country he wanted he clearly wanted to bring people to the negotiating table he did not send in enough troops to take all of of Ukraine so um so then and and lizelansky Thompson negotiating tables and we now know this and this is recent information in March of 2022 zolensky and Putin agree on a peace agreement that's based upon the Minsk Accords there's it's like Minsk Accords 2.0 and zelenski initials it the Russians initial it and Russia begins withdrawing its troops from Ukraine and what happens President Biden sends Boris Johnson over there to torpedo the agreement and make make zielinski tear it up and then we go to war 350 000 Ukrainian kids and now dead and um and you know 40 or 50 000 Russians so and and that month April that April is when they signed it in March April we Boris Johnson was sent over there to torpedo it um and that month Lloyd Austin who is the Secretary of Defense under uh under Biden is as why are we at war with Ryan with uh in Ukraine and he said our purpose in this war is to exhaust the Russian army and degrade its capacity to fight anywhere else in the world so that is not what they're telling us but but do they in Biden at months says when he's asked about the war in Ukraine he says our purpose is regime change in Russia so again that is nothing to do with the Ukraine what that means the Ukraine is a proxy and essentially a struggle between two superpowers between Russia and the United States and you know we've now committed 113 billion dollars over there and just put that in perspective the total budget of EPA is 12 billion the total budget of CDC is 12 and we're sending 113 billion over when um when uh Mitch McConnell was asked how can we do this you know when our country when you're cutting food stamps and cutting medic food stamps to 30 million Americans I think Medicare to 15 million Americans but they're not going to have any health insurance how can we spend 100 113 billion over there if we if we don't if we have that 130 millionaire we wouldn't have had to cut one food stamp payment and he said well don't worry the money's not staying in Ukraine It's All Coming Back To military contractors in the United States well so that's interesting because then you look at you know who owns those military contractors and and you see who gets on CNN to pump up the Ukraine war is a bunch of former generals and Colonels and Pentagon people but if you go in and CNN never and MSNBC never do this if you go look at those guys they're all people who are working for Raytheon and General Dynamics and Boeing and Lockheed so they're generals but they're not identified that you know they're actually working for the military contractors who are cashing in on the war and then you know those military contractors in turn are on by three companies all of them are on by three companies by BlackRock State Street and Vanguard and um and you know the inflation that from printing the money to fund the war and the fund the 2016 trillion we spent fund the lockdowns covet lockdowns eight trillion we've spent on these wars since 2020 all of them losing Wars all of them that made our country less safe look at what this war is doing we push Russia into the Embrace of China which is the worst foreign policy outcome imaginable it is not good for the National Security of our country and we're now have I have have Putin's back to the wall well Putin is the world's leading nuclear superpower we aren't he's got a thousand more nukes than we do and their nukes are much better than ours they can shoot down our nukes we can't shoot down theirs oh you know we're we aren't going out against it you know we are provoking a a uh a confrontation that could very easily lead to nuclear war you know and I've I've talked to wait can I ask you to pause there for a second everything you've said is checkable and rational and you're extrapolating out toward the future which is easy to Envision like I don't really see I don't understand how our policy makers aren't reaching the same conclusions you just reached like they think that war with Russia is where we're going to win we we cannot win as well of course so what are they doing it would be like Mexico beating us in a war they're not going to let the Ukraine they cannot lose this war and you know anybody who thinks Russia is not up to the war go look at the Netflix documentary on Stalingrad and look at the sacrifice they were willing to that Russians are willing to make Putin today you know we thought this was going to hurt him he's more popular than he's ever been all the U.S polling firms Joe him bowling at 90 popularity and and you know in Russia in Russia among the Russians are supporting him and he also you know we were we were going to break him with the sanctions we did the opposite we made him more powerful he's now insulated from the you know from the trade and the international banking system he's now got this great trade agreement with China he's now you know engineering the creation of of bricks which which has 40 leading Nations around the world turning against the U.S currency is a reserve currency and adopting his petrol currency to the Chinese currency that is the worst threat to the United States that will play if we lose that status as a world Reserve currency you know the Great Depression will look like a cakewalk so I agree with all of that and and all of it see I mean your position to my ears sounds moderate and obvious I just don't understand how the Secretary of State how the president how is it his competent advisors can't have reached the same conclusions like what are they thinking well you know unfortunately I think and I don't you know I share your sense of ministry about that but I don't you know what you're saying is not crazy it's not like some Theory uh I mean the only way I can explain it and I'm not you know I don't like to put looking other people's heads yes and tell why they're doing one thing another but President Biden has always been a very pro-war president and you know he was the one Senator that stood out supporting the Iraq War my uncle and Obama and many men and you know Hillary also but Biden has always been a reliable let's go to war Guy and um so I don't think um to the extent that he's thought this all through I just I think it it follows it's consistent with his historical instincts and then he's surrounded by people who are you know these are the same people who got us in the Iraq War I know look at what happened let's just let me go through what happened in Iraq just for give me one minute to summarize the you know we were tricked into Iraq by the neocons who told us that Saddam had something to do with World Trade Center which was a lie that he had planted the anthrax attacks that came five days after the World Trade Center which was alive that turned out to be you know the intelligence agencies the U.S military at Fort Dietrich that Anthrax the FBI found came from Fort dietrichment so it was somebody in the U.S government who sent it to who were the two senators in the week after 9 11 who were trying to block the Patriot Act and it shut down Congress and the patriarch went through and no um so the and then they told us wait wait really yeah yes and FBI after a year of Investigation trades the anthrax it was a kind of Ames Anthrax that was weaponized and the only source of that in the world could be the US government and they traced it to Fort Detrick there yes the bile habit for Dietrich the CIA by Lab at Woodward Dietrich oh somebody sent that in at the time the Patriot Act was being debated and the two leading guys who were blocking it was Patrick Lee and Tom natural with the recipients of it shut down Congress the Patriot Act goes through what did the patriarch do things I mean it it basically gets rid of a lot of large part of the United States the Constitution Bill of Rights and now I was spying by intelligence agencies on the American people and it reopens the bioweapons arms race because bio weapons were shut down in 1969 by um we we saw you know Nixon did this incredible thing of closing for Dietrich shutting them down and saying we're no longer making bio weapons and then got everybody to sign a treaty in 73 well the Patriot Act has a provision in it it says we're not walking away from the Geneva Convention which makes you it's a hanging offense to develop bio weapons we're not walking away from um from the weapons Charter of 1972 1973. but we are adopting a new role that any federal official who violates those acts cannot be prosecuted so it reopened it effectively a crime without a punishment yeah but anyway I'm you know anyway so let me add it's an interesting segue because Toria Newland kind of blindly announced during Congressional testimony last year that oh by the way we have these bio labs in Ukraine yeah and that was like kind of ignored in the people who covered it got attacked for covering it but the fact remains there are U.S bio labs in Ukraine why would we have bio labs in Ukraine um we have Iowa have labs are required because we're developing bio weapons and you know and those bio weapons are using all kinds of new synthetic biology and crispr technology and genetic engineering techniques that were not available the previous generation they can make frightening frightening stuff um what happened was and uh you know when when we walked away from when the Patriotic reopened the bio absence armed Race in 2001 the Pentagon began putting a lot of money into bioweapons but they were nervous at that time because if you violate Geneva the Geneva Convention it's a hanging offense and they weren't sure that that provision in The Patriot Act would actually hold up as a loophole to treaties that had been ratified by Congress so they were nervous about actually going full force in the bioweapons development so they transferred The Authority for biosecurity to one agency in the in the HHS I call the National Institute for infectious and allergic diseases run by Anthony fauci the responsibility for bioweapons development he got at that time a 68 raise from the Pentagon in order to do that work so and that's why he was the highest paid official in American in the American government of you know four or four million people in the American he's the uh he gets more money he got more money 450 000 a year than the president that any Supreme Court Judge any member of Congress he was the highest paid and it's because he got that 68 percent raised from the Panic on to do bio weapons development now when you do bioweapons development every bio weapon he needs a vaccine so your development side by side because in a hundred percent of the cases when you deploy a bio weapon there's blowback your side also gets sick so in order to deploy one offensively you need a vaccine to um to counter it so you need to vaccinate your team before you deploy it so those two things are are developed through a a field of science called gain of function science where you take infections where you take an infectious microbe and he amplifies infectivity where you make a jump species so it may kill monkeys now you make it kill humans and you adopt it that way and there's all kinds of methods and then you make an immune to antibiotics and the therapeutic drugs and other therapies so it's actually the inverse of Medicine they're 2 800 years since Hippocrates doctors have been trying to figure out how to make microbes less infectious and less deadly and developed antibiotics and Therapeutics to do that well the eyes were involved in this there's 36 000. what are called life scientists but they're actually data scientists um who are now employed full-time and developing you know microbes that will can be used to kill people but given the experience we just had three years ago yeah where a virus from a bio lab yeah upturned so let me just finish this brief history about what happened in 2014 three of those microbes escaped you know how she built Labs all over the country in Galveston and Boston everywhere there'd be as hell four labs we don't even know how many there are BSL three and BSL for it we have no idea how many there are there's um you know we've counted them I have a notebook coming out that goes through the ones we know but there are many secret ones that people don't know about and they're doing it here in the United States but in 2014 three bugs escaped from three different labs and they were a high profile breaks and they were very dangerous things small boxing uh and a couple of other uh bad bad bad microbes the public learned about it and there was a lot of publicity in Congress held hearings 300 scientists wrote President Obama and said you've got to shut down Anthony fauci because he's going to create a microbe that will uh that will cause a global pandemic and so Obama signed a moratorium that shut down the 18 worst of Anthony fauci's experiments or most of them were taking place in Galveston and in North Carolina by a scientist called Ralph Barrack down there and uh and instead of obeying that law Anthony fauci shifted a lot of his operations offshore and those operations ended up most of them in the Wuhan lab which is a military lab and that the Chinese were on the people's Liberation Army and uh and then a lot of them went to the Ukraine so a lot of that science now and it's funded not you know how she was funding lots of it then the the other government agencies began to get confidence in you know their ability to get away with it and most of it is being funded by the Department of Defense the most of all the biggest single funder is usaid which is you know a CIA cut out do you think the lab leak was a leak or was it an intentional well I the best science shows that he indicates that the people who were working on um a particular coronavirus technology that was taught by Ralph Barrick funded it was developed by the U.S government by and with NIH money it was then taught to a group of scientists whose famous the bat lady and and her assistant Ben who and a couple of other scientists at the Wuhan lab Eric taught them two things he taught them one how to engineer this bike with a fern cleave that could attach The ace2 receptors of the human lungs and make people sick and spread you know through the air he taught them another trick that has nothing to do with public health conceivably which is a technique called seamless legation which is a technique for disguising the evidence of human tampering so you can make the microbe and then you can erase the evidence that human beings actually made that microbe and I'm and and Ben who was leading that research then who then got sick with two other of his fellow researchers and they ended up in the hospital with coveted symptoms in November of 2019. oh I it it appears that Ben and that Ben who the the subway line that goes has the Wuhan lab and goes straight to the airport all the original cases were along that subway line and so the intelligence the intelligence agencies that are actually being honest about that and most of them are not um believe that Ben who and to other researchers got sick and the most likely scenario is the pen who and two other researchers working were working on infectious coronavirus bio weapons God's sick and got with and they didn't know it and so they were riding that subway line every day and infecting people before they actually got symptoms and that's probably what happened but when nobody knows um you've said a number of times publicly many times publicly and I think it's now been confirmed that CIA had knowledge of at best had knowledge of your uncle's assassination new things it's still being hidden now what do you think um and that's obviously true what do you think the motive was Immaculate well I think the people who are involved in it the specific people who were involved in it were um were almost all associated with the Miami station which was the largest CIA station at that time it was basically it was the Cuban station and the people who were involved in that station were people like Bill Harvey um and David Atlee Phillips who was clearly involved in my uncle's assassination he was uh I all evidence he was Lee Harvey Oswald's Handler at the CIA um and and E Howard hunt who made a confession David Morales Who is the you know the chief Hitman he ran the operation Phoenix Program in Vietnam he killed ten thousand people civilians over there murdered them and he he also gave a confession of being uh in Dallas and then there were most of the people were associated with Cuba and he you know they and and the impetus came from that group of people who were um who were angry at my Uncle for not sending an air cover during the Pigs invasion and even more so after the 1962 Cuban Missile Crisis um my uncle then developed this friendship with Khrushchev and he shut down all of the Cuban attacks by Alpha 66 and these other groups that were harassing you but they were sinking ships or Sinking Russian ships they were operating fliptillas out of South Florida and and doing raids on and my uncle and fathers sent the coast guard down to confiscate their boats and their weaponry and to arrest the ones that continue to do it and those people those individuals um were also you know I've been traced and and tracked the assassination um and uh uh you know over the years and they're now there's been you know there's millions of documents I mean I you know but why not really sell the what doesn't make sense to me is why not just admit it now I mean no no one you described would be is still alive everybody everybody now all virtually so why wouldn't Biden declassify these documents I don't know why and why would Trump not I agree I totally why I know why Trump wouldn't because he was convinced by Mike Pompeo not to so and it's not an excuse but not you know we don't we don't know what what what Mike Pompeo said to him no but that's the point what we could possibly more requires them to do it so they the the JFK assassinations law required that all documents be released by 2017. yeah and um and yet they refuse so they uh but it suggests that there's something about four thousand of them um that are left and you you have to assume and again I don't try I try not to talk about things that I cannot document right um but I I think there's a it's a fair assumption that they're not protecting individuals that they're protecting some institutional interests um what's the most powerful institution in America well I you know I I again I'm not gonna I'm not gonna I I don't know I don't know and you know I you don't know yeah it's it but there must be something because like why wouldn't they just yes and by the way or people you know you you and I having this conversation about who did the assassination why they did it a lot of that is uh the stuff that I've told you and I've tried to stick to things that you know that are documentable and the names that Etc but for people who want real you know kind of a panoramic view of what happened I think the best book that's been written about this is Jim Douglas's book which is called the Unspeakable because he's done something um that you know after the Warren Commission that became the Orthodoxy and the New York Times and all the major news organizations uh have enforced that Orthodoxy and anybody who challenged that Orthodoxy becomes a conspiracy theorist and in fact in 1967 the CIA sent a letter out to a telecom out to all of its operation Mockingbird people which are all the yeah assets it had in the American Press more than 400 people editors senior editors senior writers the American Press thing from now on anybody who questions the single gunman theory of the of the Kennedy assassination should be characterized as a conspiracy theorist and they didn't coin the word conspiracy theory but they popularized it within memo they sent him out to all their stations saying that talk should be discouraged so um uh those I you know but what happened after that is then in 1979 the house assassinations committee met for a year and a half and they looked at much more evidence than the warrant commission did including you know Alan Alan Dulles run the Warren Commission he was the head of the CIA with my uncle fired when my uncle died he said I'm glad the little is dead he thought he was a god that's what he said to a young reporter and then he becomes the head of the commission that is you know it shouldn't have been called the Warren Commission it should be called because Earl Warren was had a full-time job at the Supreme Court the only all the other guys on the Oren commission had full-time jobs as a senator and congressman the only guy who went to every meeting and you know looked at every piece of evidence and developed the questions for the witnesses was Alan Dulles he was running the entire Warren Commission and you should have been the prime suspect in the in the crime and he was communicating secretly with the people with the CAA with David Hadley Phillips with Georgia hannities who was the CIA liaison telling them what you know what questions we're going to be asked and what they should reveal and which it Hoover at the same time of the whole thing was a coordinated kind of uh Kabuki theater but and Congress goes back and investigates it in 79 and Congress and comes back after a year and a half seeing a lot more stuff and says I and they conclude this was a conspiracy yes they make that official you know so anybody who says it was just Lee Oswald is did is differing from the people who actually made the investigation so given that most of the people on that staff who I've talked to believe that it was the CIA and as you know at that time the dispute between them was between was it the Mob of the CIA because there was a lot of mob involvement you know Johnny roselli um who was the Chicago Santa's trafficking it's the Tampa boss and Carlos Marcelo who was uh New Orleans boss were all involved and they all had casinos in Havana and they were working with the CIA to assassinate Castro so they had hitman at their disposal and they were training Cubans who were sharp shooters for Batista has Hitman and I've talked to some of the Hitman I've talked to Antonio viciana who was involved and who was also David Hadley Phillips um uh Handler David alley Phillips was his Handler and he was Lee Harvey Oswald's a Handler so veggiano met Oswald in Dallas and uh I think in September of of um of 1963. oh I've talked to you know the people who are actually working for the CIA and the mob at that time you know to kill Castro and how they were then pivoted uh to this you know some of them were pivoted to this new project if you became president if you become president what do you do about those 4 million federal employees about the agencies which are running effectively as autonomous governments within our government the last president when was the last president who controlled the agencies and how would you do it I don't know I I feel like I'm probably and I don't want to seem like you know I'm being vain but I feel but because of that the Confluence of my experiences over the past four years that I'm actually probably the only one that can unravel that agency capture and let me tell you this my daughter-in-law who is co-running my campaign with Dennis kucinich amarillus Fox um was a CIA agent in the Clinton service for most of her career and what she'll tell you and you know she has a very sanguine view of the CIA and the same is mine um and also understands all this evidence that the agency you know is involved in that on in the murder of my uncle and and the cover-up continues to be involved in the cover all right whatever else will tell you is that of the 24 000 people who work for the agency at twenty thousand nothing are patriotic Americans in good public servants and that there's there's some people mainly in Glen in a plant's vision the CIA is you know is made up of extraordinary people principally people who are um who are doing an important job of protecting our country he has to be in our division is the division that does um it does uh information gathering and Analysis and the president needs that the plans division is the action Division and they're the ones that assassinate people fix elections uh you know overthrow governments and do all the uh um the things that I think we're paying for in our foreign policy today and in our domestic policy my father was going to separate those divisions my uncle ultimately was going to do that to my uncle thought the CIA you know he came out of his office during the pigs and he said I want to take the CIA shatter it into a thousand pieces and Scatter it to the wins he then asked my father to run the agency he said either you're the only one I tried to do this and my father said it and my grandfather said you can't do that you can it would be like Molotov and Stalin you can't have the the brother of the president running a secret spy agency with all this extraordinarily hidden power but they brought in John McComb to run it but John McCone you know was not able to handle it and um and my father a week before he died taught told one of his closest friends Pete Hamill who you may have known but he'd handle the journalist yeah the journalists um he told beat him I'll beat ammo said what are you going to do about the CIA and my father said I'm going to separate the plans division from Espionage and that's the only way to make it work and that still makes a lot of sense today incidentally I had dinner with Mike Pompeo I don't know three weeks ago and he said something really interesting to me but you had dinner with Mike pumpkin in Las Vegas and he said something what was that like it was it was a it was the weirdest dinner I've ever been to if I told you the other people were at that dinner well because I just can't imagine tooth I know Mike Pompey I'm not attacking my Pompeo but I can't imagine you know four different views oh no I've always um you know my I have a kind of natal hostility toward Mike pompe but I never knew him and but you know just because he was from people who don't you know he was a CIA director and and he was Secretary of State under Trump and um but he's a he's an interesting guy he's smart very smart uh he's a Harvard I think he went to Harvard Law School he did Harvard undergrad and I think he had a military army officer yep and he um you know he's he's by all on paper he's kind of a great American by all you know and you know his CV is extraordinary oh um and you never know you know you make judgments about people before you meet them and my judgment about them I still don't know what to think of him but I but this what he said wound up at dinner I'm sorry yeah Bobby Kennedy Mike Pompeo in Vegas if I'd stumbled across that I would have stopped it wasn't it just the two yeah the rest of the group makes a story even weirder I'm not I'm I'm not even gonna I I don't know if I'll even go there but but he said to me before dinner you know I was I had a moment with them um and he said to me he said you know when I was at the CIA I did not do what I should have done to fix that agency and he said um you know I uh and he he was expressing regret and he said and then he turned to me and like looked me dead in the eye and he said the entire upper echelon of that agency is made up of individuals who do not believe in the Democratic institutions of the United States of America that's a quote but so it was Mike Pompeo who uh convinced Trump not to release a guy who worked for Mike Pompeo texted me the day after I revealed that those files showed CIA complicity in your uncle's death which they do because I talked to someone who read them and I said that on Fox News and I got a text from a guy who works for Mike Pompeo informing me that I had just broken federal law and then anyone who had told me that was a felon because we had revealed classified information and I said wait a second that classified information suggests the US government was involved in the murder of an American president yeah that that's my pompeo's position on that yeah so it's a little bit weird for him to say I think there's a billion documents classified yeah I know so you know they can call it they can stamp that stamp on anything they want to that's a lawyer's trick you know to put and he was also behind keeping uh convincing Trump not to Pardon massage yeah well you know that confirms my earlier assessment of uh of Mike Pompeo oh that's interesting you like him no it says a lot okay so you have um there's a documentary called Midnight at the border uh about your visit to the Border uh California uh Arizona border of Mexico and I just want to play a clip from it for our uh for people you know what I saw was so extraordinary that it took me three days to even understand what I was looking at on because the first night I I land I go to Yuma and I get to the wall at um at 2 A.M and I watch the first group there's a gap in the wall there and there and I watched the first group come across which was about 100 110 um men from West Africa mainly from Ghana they're all you know sort of military age men from Ghana and by calling a military age man I'm not making implica any implications about what they're here for I'm just saying it's just a way of describing them they were people you know between 18 and 25. I'm got it so I expected to see a lot of essential Americans coming up you know and then um and that was not what I saw and then the next group was uh again about the same number there were two bus loads of people and I interviewed every one of them I talked to each one and I want to say this what we're seeing there a lot of people come from the to this issue of you know I I think we need to close that wall we need to close the border right now and I'm going to explain to you why a lot of people come to this issue from sort of nationalistic or even a racist or um or uh you know xenophobic but I have posture and I'm not coming from that place I'm coming from a place of compassion and a place of um you know just concern for our country and uh and you know this is a it is this is a heartbreaking humanitarian crisis and everything that happens these migrants along the way is terrible oh the next group that came and what's happening to our country is a catastrophe and by the way I was a person who ridiculed Trump's wall okay so and now I've been down there and I've talked to everybody down there and I'm you know I have a different position I don't think you need to build a 2200 mile physical barrier from you know San Diego at Brownsville Texas but we definitely need physical barriers in the densely populated area would definitely because this we cannot survive what's what's happening there now the next group that came over were um again about 110 people there are two bus loads the cartels dropped them on right on the other side of the wall on these buses and there's 55 people per bus oh um the next group there were people from Azerbaijan and from kha'zix and from Uzbekistan from Afghanistan from Pakistan from Tibet Nepal uh and many from India and the most came from China um there were only two families we met the entire night who were from um who were from Latin America none from Central America interesting one from Colombia and one from Peru and they were the only ones who had legitimate claims they you know of Asylum claims everybody else we talked to said I'm here to have a better life well that is not if you want if that's why you come to America then you have to go through the front door you go to the Embassy yeah you go to the Embassy so they don't even have a legitimate any legitimate Clan to be in the United States nevertheless the the border patrol and the border patrol is so uh disillusioned and discarded there's nine of the Border patrolmen we were told it had committed suicide in the last year because of what they're being forced to do they are not protecting the Border they what they do is they fingerprint they can only hold the migrants for 72 hours they fingerprint them and they see if there is every criminal record if they have a criminal record they're put in a different process but otherwise they're then asked where they want to go and if they don't have a plane ticket they are brought to the airport the DHS purchased them a ticket and sends them anywhere they want to go in the United States so the country's getting poorer every year our country's getting poor every year we're in a poor place right now how who came up with I mean why do we owe plane tickets to people who come here illegal it's it ha as far as I can tell and there's a lot of evidence for this and it's in our film is that the behind the administration came in you know in the same position I was was which is any which is the wall is bad but more more importantly anything Donald any idea that Donald Trump had is a bad idea oh they just opened the border and they've had this open border policy where um they they have not hired the judges that's the most important thing that needs to be done the judges need to be hired so that these cases if the Asylum case uh cases can be adjudicated right at the border and people who are not entitled to Asylum nursing back um but that's not what's happening what happens is they're all given claims and they're told to appear in court and they go to an arraignment fairly soon after arriving in Boston or New York or Miami or wherever many Minneapolis wherever they're going and then they're given a court date which on average is seven years out so they're uh so then they're they're in I hope next time I get arrested I get the same courtesy oh they're in on our country and for seven years but and let me just tell you from their point of view what's happened first of all the cartels are now controlling our immigration policy in the United States all of these people who came across came across knowing exactly what was going to happen to them because they had seen it on advertisements the cartels are sending around the world on tick tock and on YouTube it tells you what you need to do to get in where are you what airports you fly into what visas you get how to get them and how to get to the cartel parking lots where the buses will take you some of them flying to Nicaragua most of them fly too directly to Mexico City and from anywhere in the world these are not you know Central American Latin American they're coming from everywhere they come to they fly to Mexico City the cartel is a system getting a Mexican Visa and then they are put on a domestic flight to Mexicali and in Mexicali there's a big parking lot with uh with positives operated by the cartels the cartels charged them between ten thousand and fifteen thousand dollars a piece to get through and then they drive them up to the wall and they unload and we watch them unload them on the other side hey um large numbers of them get um get abused they get extorted they get exploited they get robbed raped beaten uh the Peruvian family that I met at every uh Penny taken from and he said my whole life savings was taken from me there's a tree that we could see from where we were in the day when it was Daylight it's called the rape tree where the cartels extract final payment from women who are crossing the border um if there are attractive women that they in their View and I I don't mean physically attractive attractive for whatever their purpose is and sell or to you know uh the traffic or whatever or children um those children are separated out we uh uh the Colombian family had lost a child girl and a teenage girl and you know the father was desperate and they they she had been separated from them by the cartels before they passed oh my gosh and 85 000 children have disappeared in this process it it's it's monsters let me tell you this hey get into our country and there's a lot of people who are well-meaning mainly liberal people who care who you know see themselves as deeply caring people who say we should have Sanctuary cities and we should you know these people should be you know with dignity but what really happens to them in real life is that they get here and then they for this for seven years none of them are legal so they are now subject to terrible exploitation by uh unscrupulous employers all over this country they're getting paid six dollars or five dollars an hour because they have no leverage in their employer of course and that happens so ages where every other they're exactly right it steals the leverage from American workers too and there's 16 million of them here now and uh they're crushing the social safety systems social safety nets in the cities like New York has 95 000 of them have landed in New York New York is now thinking of turning Roosevelt Island into an open-air refugee camp and there's a proposal that was on Bloomberg of turning Central Park or parts of it into open-air camps for uh four migrants oh and that you know Eric Adams who's the mayor has been saying this has got to end you know we have to close the border and a lot of these Mayors who were people who were saying we you know we're Sanctuary cities and getting that you know you know aligning themselves with that are now seeing what it really means and it does not mean Humanity treating people humanely it is the worst possible thing we can meanwhile seven million have come a club cross in three years seven million illegally in that same time there's only been 3.1 million million legal immigrants so these are the people who waited in line or every one of them there are more than two illegal ones coming across and taking those places and that you know a lot of the uh anyway that you know it's not it's not something that's sustainable it's something that needs to end right away and that that if it the cartels what you're making Billy the cartel the Mexican drug cartels are literally running U.S immigration policy that's not not the president of the United States and corrupting the Southwest United States last question will you succeed in getting a debate with Biden do you think um I don't I don't know I mean I think it's not very Democratic not debate um I hope that he will debate me and I I can tell you this and I I also hope that he'll come out and campaign because I'm seeing a vision of America in that you know both Trump and Biden are boasting about the about the economic Prosperity that they've brought to our country they're it's unusual there are two former presidents running against each other both of them are proclaiming their their um their economic record when I'm seeing things in this country that I never believed that I would see in the United States people living in a level of desperation that I you know what I I don't know I've talked about I have a friend called Keith Amato who is and you know I represented commercial fishermen for almost all my career as an Environmental Lawyer and he's one of my closest friends and he um he's been he ran he worked hard his whole life fishing out a wild Fleet and beat down and uh and Chatham and but and it's his son-in-law now owns a fishing business but he has no pension and he has no and he's on full disability you know a lot of injuries and a lot of damage during his life oh he was collecting food stamps 283 he was getting a month and it's critical to his survival even then he was saying he was telling me you know I have to switch recipes to make to be able to get through the through the checkout line you know I have to buy cheaper recipes and get fillers Etc and in the last two years the price of food because to fund these wars that were you know were funding they print money and that means inflation and that's the tax on the poor oh the price of food has gone up by 38 the price of of basic foodstuffs um chicken eggs and milk have gone up 78 so his Foods were 78 you know less valuable on March 1st of this year he got a phone call from the a government phone call robocall the recorded voice told him that he was getting his food stamps cut to twenty three dollars a month so 90 percent of 30 million Americans got that phone call and um you know that's the same month we ratcheted it ratcheted up our contributions to the Ukraine at to Ukraine at 30 at 113 billion and we print he said printed 300 billion unanticipated dollars to pay for the failure of the Silicon Valley Bank there's lots of money for for and we and we we began cutting 15 million people from the welfare role since then 4 million have been cut this is unpolitical this morning from from the Medicare Rose oh there's no money for poor Americans and the people that I see are living because of the inflation and because of what's happening at this with this desperation the average wage in this country is now five thousand dollars left and the cost of um of basic Goods of food transportation and housing so half of Americans are making up that Gap by putting it on their credit card bills and this week we passed 1.1 trillion dollars in credit card debt that's the first time in history most of that or 330 billion of that has been in the Biden the Trump Administration two men were saying I you know I'm helping America the trillion dollar credit card debt and those people are paying 22 percent interest if the mafia did that it would be called loan sharking not dischargeable in bankruptcy by the way right and it can't be this short oh you're I'm meeting people who are you know couples who are sitting at their dining room tables and trying to figure out how how this math works for them because they can't they're they're having to make choices people in this country are choosing between food and gasoline and and food and Medicine and they're they're listening to a little baby crying in the room next to our young couples and having to have to wonder where that baby is 50 sick or a hundred dollars 500 or 1500 before they bring them to a hospital and you know my wife and I were talking about the other night and we were talking about this epidemic of depression and mental illness and anxiety that is afflicting Americans in a deterioration this sense the wheels are falling off and she said you know that's the way I felt when she was living in poverty she said that's the way I felt when the engine light came on my car because I knew there was no money to pay it and you have all these Americans now who are living hand to mouth and uh and they do not feel that anybody is listening to them in the political process they feel they've been completely abandoned by the Democratic party and the Republican party and that those parties are now serving Elites and um and that uh you know their voices aren't being heard and particularly now you know the Democratic party has had this very interesting shift where when I grew up um my when my uncle's friends my father was in the Democratic party was where the people who were poor and working people were and today 70 of the wealth in this country is owned by the Democratic party and only 30 percent the Republican Party the top 10 counties this top richest counties in this country nine of the ten are Democratic counties oh there is this kind of shift in in uh in wealth that maybe is one of the reasons that uh Democrats do not seem to be talking to or for working people anymore but I'm you know the people that I talk to both of my job of representing them you know um in you know I'm representing a thousand families in Columbiana County Ohio Eastern Ohio Western Pennsylvania Western West Virginia whose lives were upended by the Norfolk Southern spill and uh you know they are just living in a level of desperation that I never thought I'd see in the United States and uh you know my father used to bring us to um to Southeast Washington in a station where I can bring us to Southeast Washington to to meet people who were who were poor how are you taking us to the Mississippi Delta or West Virginia to Appalachia or the Indian reservations and he always said to us these these are your people um he said the the uh the people who are wealthy and the people who have um you know who are the big corporate leaders and Titans they don't need the candidates they have um they have lawyers and they have PR firms and they have lobbyists and he said these are your people and he came back from from uh the Mississippi Delta one night and he said to uh we were all eating there's like nine of our kids in the dining room at that time and he said um I was in a uh tar paper Shack there were two families there and they eat one meal a day and the kids go to bed hungry and he said when you grow older I don't want you to do something about those people and that's one of the reasons that I'm running Jr thank you very much for that thank you appreciate it foreign [Music] all right [Music] thank you foreign [Music] foreign [Music]

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