Trying YOUR Build Ideas - Path of Exile

so this was a comment on my video from the other day about the Eric Hollis built about the old spiders and I think it's pretty fair I appreciate the honesty about the cons of the build but the title should say why I think this build is trash it was a very thinly veiled distaste honestly for the clunkiness of the build I've always been curious about the Eric Holly's build I it always looked really neat I always wanted to try it and we had a sub goal on the stream uh because a lot of people just they always come in and they say hey play a minion build try minions I should play minions back in the day my first level 100 ever was a slave driver Specter or a stacker low life or a stacker really back in uh back in blight league and that was a really fun build but really after all of the Nerfs like every time I look back at minions I just you know nothing really really appeals to me and especially with all the Nerfs in what was it Lake of Calandra when they did the you know the historic rework of minions you know I I just I haven't really been inspired to look back at them and yeah so I had this video uh a day or two ago and I you know you can tell from the thumbnail I just didn't fall in love with the build I I like the idea like I I like the spiders I like the auto summoning of the spiders I think they operate really nicely with profane Bloom I think there's some cool stuff there but basically what I had done is I went to Poe ninja I had people in chat that also had played the build as well giving me some advice and I put together basically like The Meta version I looked at a bunch of different versions on Peewee ninja and I put together what looked like like the average build that everyone played that seems to be reflected also in the comments of this video however there were quite a few comments from folks saying hey this is not the best way to play Eric Hollis I know that this is the meta version you're playing the standard version but I just don't think that this is not the right way to do it I I am a master of the arakali's Fang let me teach you and uh yeah there are a bunch of comments with a bunch of different ideas and a bunch of different texts and I thought what we would do today is I would go through all your guys suggestions we'll synthesize them down to a handful of different ideas and we'll put together different things and we'll just kind of review it and so yeah well that's what I did this morning as I bought a bunch of the gems and the items and everything that you guys recommended and we're gonna run through a map for each different variation I rolled up a tier 16 strand uh they're all very similarly rolled they're all about the same and we're also going to use the Black Star polaric invitation to test a single Target I know it's not like an Uber single Target test but you know right now buying a bunch of invitations and that's a pain in the ass trust me at this point of the league it's it's not the worst but trading right now is not awesome really want to try everything that you guys suggested we're gonna see if you guys can convince me that I can like this build my mind is open I I want to enjoy this build I think the idea and the foundation of it's really cool and yeah I'll talk about my thoughts on all these different things see if it solves the real clunky problem that I had with it and I'm definitely gonna learn something maybe you guys can learn something as well and I'd love to hear from you guys below if there's more stuff that I should try and all that and yeah maybe at the end of it we come up with a version that I really love and kind of us together can work on a build that I can share as like a cohesive build guide that uh you know that one of the complaints in the comments was there's no real good Eric Holly's build guides out there that talk about it comprehensively and you know maybe that's something that we can fix together so yeah let's get to it so in terms of trying to keep this video short and sweet I'm just gonna kinda cut through things really quickly I'll talk about you know we'll try to get the Highlights there and then we can get a quick little review so the basic idea is I want to try each little Tech that you guys talked about we're going to show them in isolation and I'm going to try to compare them from the Baseline of what I have right now and then at the very end I'll try to synthesize that together in what I feel is the best and I'll just see if that you know changes my mind so the first thing that I thought was really really interesting coming here from Mr mollusk says if you're using grave binds and I do recognize also in the video yesterday I talked about grave mine slot I wasn't using grapevines but I talked about it a lot it's a thing that can if you have a different setup solve some of the clunk the issue that I had with summoning the spiders but I agree that you know gravebeinds are not best in Assad if you can avoid using them that would be great because they're not like the item itself right is not very good for Mr mollusk says if you're using grave binds you can link infernal Legion to skitterbots then resounding your spiders is as simple as pressing the flask you still have to desecrate at the start of the map but a strong point of this build is how much Cool Tech you have available because you don't have as much socket pressure we don't have you know AG inspectors and all that although you can add it if you want to it opens up a lot of different variations including using SRS with Feeding Frenzy and casserole channeling cyclone and so we're going to talk about all that as well but I just wanted to highlight the Grapevine thing at first as well so I'll just give you guys a quick little Baseline I'm not even going to run through the whole map or anything with the you know the basic variation I had it in the video yesterday but just to you know lay the foundation of what I found annoying about this build is to get the engine running right like we go into a map we don't have any spiders out so you have to cast desecrate then you have to use your writhing jar and then you have to use a skill to deal damage so I was using Divine ire before and then we used Divine ire and then as long as there are corpses around us from our desecrate then we can kind of Shield charge around and uh the spiders will start killing things and then the other thing is if you accidentally have too many corpses it'll summon 20 spiders and then if you have 20 spiders they will all die at the exact same time and then if no monsters around you have poison on them or they're not just about to die then all of your spiders fall off and you kind of have to just like back away and start the engine again you're just like it's a cold start right right and that just felt really really uncomfortable now as long as you don't summon 20 spiders at the beginning it's not that big of a deal and you know this build is really really really fast right like it's exceptionally fast so it's not really that big of a deal but I found it clunky enough and then particularly in single Target situations you have to re-summon in the middle of a boss fight or something or if you mess it up like that does feel really bad so yeah that's the basic Foundation of like what I found clunky so the idea here is to use the grave binds which then say nearby enemies killed by anyone right any minion that you have or anything counts as being killed by you and the way that race spiders works from Eric Hollis is they have to be killed by you like something has to be killed by you to summon the spiders and gravebeins kind of get around that and so we don't have to use Divine ire or anything like that but we need something to kill right and so what we can do is in this example we can use infernal Legion and I went all out today I bought high level gems alternate quality gems and all that the idea here is we are using skitterbots which are Immortal right they don't die but by linking them with infernal Legion support they can do a pretty decent amount of Base damage right 2394 Base fire damage per second the nice thing about this right is they take the downside usually is they take 40 of their life per second but since they're Immortal we don't have to worry about that and then I went all out I linked it to a level six awakened minion damage support with a burning damage support I guess I don't have awakened burning damage but that's pretty tiny and then Divergent summer skitter box right here which is whatever the big downside with this is our skitterbots you know especially linked to these other support gems cost a ton of Mana right like they're costing a 49 reservation here and that's after you know Charisma and everything that I have I have quite a few different uh Mana reservation efficiency nodes and that's still 49 Mana because I've linked it with so much now i granted I don't have to do that but I kind of thought the cool idea and I'll show you in a map real quick the cool idea here is to get them to do enough damage and to have them strong enough so they're actually nice to have around right like the shock and the Chill from the skitterbots already is going to be nice to have and then if they can deal a decent amount of damage then maybe I can drop the writhing jar and that's the idea that I had right here and I just want to see if these guys can even kill white monsters because if they can I mean that's a blue monster that's not too bad as soon as they start killing we start getting some spiders I don't have to use a writhing jar this opens up a flashlight for me now the summoning is a little clunky and it's a little slow here but uh yeah not the worst I don't hate it that's pretty cool now the downside right is pretty severe I have to drop both tempus shield and determination just to have those skater Bots there but you know they are dealing a little bit of damage it's not like appreciable damage and then I can actually accelerate this a little bit by having desecrate down summoning some corpses and then I can do flesh offering I can do my ball haste and now everything is just kind of ripping and then the engine is going right and you know the cool thing about this like I I think this is probably just like a me a fun meme thing right like I don't think we have to do a single Target test right there there isn't really any appreciable damage that we're doing here but yeah not bad like you can saw you saw what the skitterbots were doing for damage there it's not that bad and yeah we'll just zoom through this map real quick not too bad oh I don't oh I am missing something hold on I am missing my despair real quickly we're missing quite a bit yeah okay I was like the clear looks pretty bad here what are we missing yeah a couple things uh changed here and then we're also I can't fit in punishment right now there were some downsides uh you know by losing four gem sockets like that right that's that's not the best all right all right pretty cool I like the idea I don't think this is ideal but I like the idea right pretty cool idea now right we're already in the situation however where and I do have to use a rising jar right we go in the boss room the spiders were falling off the only way to get those spiders back we still have to use the writing jar right so that doesn't really it's a cool idea but for me this doesn't really solve any problems it's kind of like a cute little meme idea let's build on that however I have a little bit of an alternate idea that I want to show you guys all right so the other idea from Mr mollusk here was to use SRS with Feeding Frenzy and I wanted to combine that with his original idea actually because I think the I think the skitterbot thing is a cute idea but if we're not scaling fire damage uh it's just you're losing so much right and especially since we're using wither and there's already so much increased damage taken shock is doing very little chill is nice but besides that I just don't think it is a very good use of resources however I do really like the idea of SRS right here so I just bought a regular 2120 SRS I have that linked with Feeding Frenzy if you don't know the cool thing about Feeding Frenzy is it grants you a buff that is 10 more minion damage 10 increased minion movement speed and 10 increased Minion Attack and cast speed which is just huge right that's a really really big buff but normally you know that we don't really have a good access to that so being able to generate Feeding Frenzy is pretty big for this build I think it's a pretty big buff for the spiders awakened minion damage and awaken unleash are the links here at least just like I don't really have that much access to cast speed I'm not really scaling that too much and I just want to get the skulls out you know I want to get the the Raging Spirits out ASAP I was thinking right you know with the grave binds since the skulls count as I keep calling them skulls since the Raging Spirits you know count as your kills they will also generate the spiders now the first kill right profane Bloom will destroy corpses so that first kill is not really gonna work you are still gonna have to cast some desecrate there but if they do enough damage right we're scaling a lot of Minion damage on this build if they do enough you know that's gonna be just a buff to the build in general right like a lot more damage in general so that's what I wanted to try here and uh and just see what this feels like so let's see how the uh the Raging Spirits do not bad not bad at all as you can see right the profane Bloom is destroying corpses so those first couple of packs of monsters right that got killed weren't generating any spiders right and that is kind of a downside almost to the profane Bloom if you are doing anything that will just automatically be killing the monsters and you if you want to summon uh your spiders or anything from a corpse propane Bloom is like almost a downside for that but yeah now we're just kind of ripping right and the cool thing is it gives me something to do uh that is kind of like the thing that felt weird to me is I didn't really have too many buttons to press and as you know as someone who usually plays builds that often have a lot of buttons it is nice to just have something to press you know on my right click or you know whatever your main skill button is to feel like you're contributing right just like I feel like you know I'm like the coach in the back just saying hey get to work boys but uh yeah being able to press a button and feel like I'm contributing by you know summoning more raging Spirits here it feels like I'm doing something at least and it does look like they do decent damage those skulls are really chunking the monsters I actually want to do a little bit of comparison here for the uh the single Target damage so yeah really cool now there is some additional Tech that I actually wanted to test here I do think that comment at the beginning was a little unfair right like I did say in the video like I totally understand why people like this build I just like with that amount of Jank and and like how clunky it was to like get the engine running and the spider's falling off and it just it felt like you were playing like a daycare nanny or something and like you know someone who's playing like a really strong bull build right now and it did really that really did really great to me all right so we do have to summon some spiders here so I can pop my writhing jar we got 20 spiders up now we're sailing a little bit so they're obviously not doing great single Target but yeah that definitely feels better right like the big here is I was able to get all of my auras back on you know I think like I said skitterbots is obviously like kind of a inefficient use of resources but yeah that was pretty cool I think that was a much better setup at least for for getting it going and it's likely Overkill here to have it linked to all of this right I could probably drop on leash I could probably drop the awakened minion damage and just have like SRS and you know the feeding frenzies on hit so that's gonna be generating pretty often so that's great linking four gems here is almost definitely Overkill but the freeding frenzy you know I only have to press the button once in a while and I fight and then I keep that up I get a lot more damage on my spiders I think that's cool so yeah you know definitely very promising now again the downside here is we're using the grave binds which give us almost nothing right we're losing up to four links on our our setup here we're losing up to four gems and the grave mines give us almost nothing like some chaos res life on kill that's it right no life no res no increased damage in general it's okay but again for me it doesn't really hit the spot doesn't really solve anything so yeah let's do a quick little single Target test we'll put an awakened melee Fizz right here over our melee Splash and we'll just see what this feels like so yeah we got the same idea we have to desecrate still we can summon some skulls early a little bit less clunky right than Divine iron which is kind of nice get some more okay another desecrate get our flesh offering up and uh yeah have Adam boys see how this goes uh 18 spiders not too bad all right decent ramping damage I don't mind it pretty good feels about comparable to my setup before right we gained Feeding Frenzy but we did lose 64 increase damage as well as the uh the big bonus here on punishment so I didn't see the huge ramp below 50 life you know definitely a loss in spending those four sockets there but gaining that Feeding Frenzy and the SRS will pocket that in the back of our head for our final setup so yeah keep that in the back of your mind but the grave binds are going away I think that was enough experimenting with the grapevines I do really want to keep the uh you know the main blasphemy setup right here I think this is very very powerful the punishment arrogance Despair and blasphemy the arrogance 19 or effect right the reason why we can do this is we are using an imprezence the uh Despair and the punishment totally free so arrogance is just it's a free or effect there were a bunch of comments about the Grapevine so I just wanna I kind of wanted to lump all that together so there were a handful of people that talked about the grapevines uh mostly people saying that it was bad and I do agree like I think that if you can avoid using them not the best slot right since the gloves are so weak you can make it work I just wanted to show that their setups were you could probably make it work and you know figure out something there now there were quite a few people so Mr mollusks here mentioned Cyclone as well as uh Mr Mal cheer right here we got a lot of misters in the chat also Voodoo here talking about Cyclone although Voodoo here is saying couldn't play it without grave blinds and Cyclone just saying that that felt way better for them but yeah there are a bunch of mentions of cyclone I didn't want to call that out but yeah tons and tons of comments about grapevines so we also have the Cyclone here right we have Cyclone we have Castle channeling and we can combine that with a few other things and I want to call out we have uh from Miss Willow here let me find the comment the big one here this is uh Miss Willow you are who inspired this video uh Eric Holly's expert here you don't have much invested into this build yet just I did spend 100 divines so I I just I had I had a high expectations right um however you can do a lot to improve this build this one I found really really interesting this one might solve a lot of my problems with the overall feel of it is alt quality convocation plus enhanced for or 80 increased movement speed also they're saying that they run with a six link enhanced setup which is uh which is pretty wild we're just gonna try a two link right here well might end up being technically more than a two link as you saw when I was going up and down the map my big complaint with this is the fact that just those spiders are so far behind you and like this build is a very fast build because we have so much attack speed we gained so much attack speed from spiritual Command right here and we're scaling a lot of Minion Attack speed that yeah we go fast we're a fast fast fast build and the spiders are just way behind us combined with the ancient skull saying that when the minions hear Whispers you can't use convocation that felt really bad that's one thing that we're gonna be testing here now number two here I actually disagree with quite a bit this does not have anything to do with minion builds this is just understanding defensive Path of Exile saying that brass Dome isn't the best defensive core it's good on a budget but not at the high end I mean brass dome's not that cheap for a reason I recommend lightning coil or doppelganger you'll notice in my inventory here I did buy a double gamer I think doppelganger is very competitive here so I'm not downplaying the doppelganger but the recommendation of lightning coil lightning coil is the budget option I think lightning coil is a great budget item but I do want to show that you can really see what the the real defensive setup is here and just double checking in pob right here you can see I have a brass Dome on right now and all you have to do and this is a really nice little tip you can do is you can just type in doppelganger right here and you can just Mouse over it and you can see that I lose effectively 15K ehp which is 12 and I know I I'm not a huge like ehp fan it does Lead You astray but it's a good leading indicator to you know the way that things work however Max hit does matter right we can see that we do gain 13 fizmax hit that's great however we lose 26 fire cold and lightning Max Head do not discount particularly this version of the build there's no way that you could easily get 100 spell suppression right so we really rely on Max res for dealing with big Elemental hits and particularly Elemental spell hits by not getting a lot of Max res and not having another source of crit immunity big spells are like I am always way more scared of big Elemental hits Than Physical hits you know a lot of people talk about fismx hit and like it's the most important thing in the game and everyone talks about it and I really like 70 to 80 of Asian decent life pool and Max spell suppression I'm pretty happy right honestly fismx hit is useful it's an important number but it's not as important as people say like while the fizmax hit goes up it doesn't go up like crazy right I go from 28k phys Max hit to what I would go to like 32k fizmax hit that's pretty good let me double check that my my molten shell is currently on let's turn it down so we have a little bit uh you know more fair numbers here but you can see this this build is still pretty darn tanky if we look at doppelganger right we gain 20 fismax hit you know pretty good we still gain uh really good right there now the really nice thing is the chaos Max hit because it has a 40 less chaos damage taken multiplier which is is gigantic so any chaos damage like we already have Max chaos res so I think that that is really notable but but losing about 14 Max hit for fire cold and lightning I just I don't love that not to mention that by losing a gigantic chunk of armor our molten shell becomes significantly weaker I am not trying to downplay the doppelganger remember I said the doppelganger I think is is a very good option I think it's very very competitive but just know that you are going to take more fire cold and lightning damage gaining some evasion here is pretty nice very competitive if we want to add in a jade flask you know with the base evasion rating that's gonna be pretty good however lightning coil to me is just generally going to be worse we do gain 18 fismax hit but again we lose 14 fire cold and lightning Max hit our ehp pool goes down by 23 we lose 60 Lightning rest this build already is very unique heavy as you can see so gaining that res back is gonna be a pain in the butt lightning coil is a spectacular early League uh defensive body armor for a lot of builds if we're talking in a higher end I think you know brass stone or doppelgangers and I think they're equally competitive and doppelgangers only really fully equally competitive when we talk about something uh a little bit further down the line and also I was thinking about doing a fourth valve setup as well fourth foul is absolutely incredible you can do fourth vow with Divine flesh and you do all that type of traditional setup and this will also make you very very tanky with the uh the right configuration and then you can add in blood Notch and all that type of stuff there's a lot of defensive opportunities with this build the other really nice thing about doppelgangers which solves a lot of my problems with this build I actually love the doppelganger suggestion is that you regenerate 10 life over one second when hit uh also the sanity insanity thing uh you want to always be sane uh if you if you don't know about doppelgangers when you equip it what it does is it gives you a skill here called unhinge relinquish your grip on reality and when you cast it it will then make you insane uh when you're sane you become tankier when you're insane you just you do more damage you create more we always want to be sane you know we want to stay sane Exile you know we gain so much benefit you know up to 40 less physical and Chaos damage taken the huge thing with the doppelgangers here is it's also taken over time it doesn't say from hits this is an incredible body armor that uh yeah I think is actually dramatically underused also regenerate 10 life over one second while hit and it has a decent amount of evasion and we don't care about energy shield on this build however by losing the brass Dome we do lose the five to all Max res I still have plus three to my Max res from the balance guard right here but it's actually proportionally less worth investing into the the higher your max res the more worth it is to invest into it right so this was worth it when I had the best dome but without the brass Dome this might be a waste of uh Four Points because I'm spending two points to grab the impossible escape and then another two points here four points for plus three all res probably still pretty good you know we get some good chunk of armor there but it becomes less of a compelling uh argument to take at that point the big thing that we lose that I think is so undervalued uh by that person by Miss Willow here talking about the brass Dome not being that good but is made up for by Miss Willow's other suggestion is the take no extra damage from critical strikes now the cool thing that uh and I don't know if this was intended in the comment but the cool thing here is you can drop the helmet and run a Verity's Veil for a level 6 Enlighten and run permanent normal haste now I was complaining about this in the video yesterday is I can't run haste right I actually don't have enough Mana reservation in my default setup here to run haste we are using Vol haste as you know whenever it's up but we don't have haste and that felt kind of bad to just have that gem socket sitting there and just like oh man if I had haste all the time all the time you know it felt kind of bad and if I just had haste all the time how cool would that be however I do really like the suggestion uh put it in a varieties for plus two to your Enlighten right verities gives you plus two to level soccer gems that can potentially allow us to run permanent normal Haze which is really cool what that does is ancient skull gives our minions 50 attack speed when they hear the whisper first you know by running hates all the time they'll get back about 25 increase to tax speed but they'll have it all the time not only when they for The Whispers And we gain access to convocation and a few other things which is really cool well I firmly disagree about the lightning coil and I think doppelgangers is like kind of General downgrade from the breast Dome usually I think they're probably pretty close but as soon as you take into account the Critical Strike then brass Dome becomes better however by using verities verities has a really cool thing that says damage of enemies hitting you is unlucky while you have a magic ring equipped and take no extra damage from critical strikes if you have a magic ring in your left slot that's pretty cool now normally you know normal builds you would be thinking oh a magic ring that kind of sucks why would I give up all these really cool stats that I use my ring for to you know make my build stronger a contraire so the thing is our ancient skull sucks ancient skull effing sucks right again this is another unique that we were only using for a little bit of Minion damage and 50 Minion Attack speed our rings are literally just stat sticks right they give us no damage it is only for life in res and since the ancient skull gives us no res or life this thing kind of sucks and by going over to a viridi's here that gives us up to 25 all-res we can get back a lot of that res and we can have damage against us being unlucky which is huge just particularly for lightning damage right which has a very high range and taking no extra damage from critical strikes as long as we're willing to use a a magic ring here then doppelgangers becomes in my opinion significantly better than the brass Dome if you're combining with the verities because you know unlucky damage that's going to make up for a good amount of losing that Max res and taking no extra damage from critical strikes that's pretty awesome so I actually really really like this idea and so what we're going to do what is it is the left slot right I believe we want to keep the amethyst ring here I'll double check I just want to double check all my my residence and everything yeah that looks about right I mean my yeah yeah we want the amethyst ring just to keep that chaos res up so yeah we can use this magic ring I hit this with a couple dozen alterations T2 life T2 res and yeah we're looking and feeling pretty good so now all damage against us is unlucky we are now uh still crit immune and now we also take you know up to 40 less physical and Chaos damage as well as less physical and Chaos damage over time my idea here is I want to kind of combine a lot of these ideas I I think there's a world where we figure out something with Caswell channeling I think the I really like the enhance with the convocation this solves a lot of my speed clearing issue and they're probably like if there's something here if we can use if we can just use cyclone and Castle channeling desecrate and we can just kind of like tap that button and I kind of want to like combine all of this so let's see what we can figure out right here all right this is what I just cooked up based on those suggestions right now well let me know what you guys think about this what we're doing and there's some pretty cool stuff in here uh I have no idea if this is gonna work so we're gonna be we're gonna be singing this together for the first time so what we're doing here is I'm using Divergent Cyclone of course so it gives us more movement speed linked with cast while channeling right here awakened level six of course uh it's pretty cheap actually I think this was three divines um just a regular desecrate right now Feeding Frenzy with Divergent flesh offering and summon raging spirit so the cool thing here is you know we just sit here Channel our Cyclone it's gonna every 0.3 seconds it's gonna cycle through those three spells and it's gonna cast them so yeah that's what we're doing in the doppelgangers guys so I put SRS Divergent flesh offering and uh desecrate here with also Feeding Frenzy so we'll get that you know there's gonna be a lot of flexibility here I was thinking about putting convocation in here as well but I wanted to put that on left click there's a fun little thing here that I actually like accidentally discovered is with my shield charge right here I uh you know I was like oh man I just I can't fit in you know I'll drop faster attacks right like uh sucks to lose the uh the attack speed but you know I'll make do because I needed a tooling for the the convocation right we really want that enhanced with the convocation 88 increased movement speed for the spiders I am very excited to see how fast they are the thing here is the level four enhance actually gives us quite a bit more movement speed on our Shield charge we can see it goes from 132 up to 156 increase movement speed so my shield charge actually still feels very very Snappy and with my Quicksilver right it's really really fast actually so that's pretty sick so I can pop my uh pop my worms and then I can just sit here and channel my spells let's see it looks like I got my uh I got my offering up spiders are out and uh yeah let's just let them rip let's see how it goes yeah I don't I don't have a flame Dash right now so I will have to kind of like run a little bit let's see how fast these spiders are let's get our ball hey stop I'm walking over some Dots here yeah I lost the Vitality so my life recovery is gonna be a little mediocre right now it's all my res cap it is interesting what am I taking damage from here I'll just minions drop burning ground let's let's fix that real quick the classic the classic overtuned mechanic that is very easy to deal with but man that's an all or nothing type of thing all right let's uh let's kick the engine off here again and just see what it feels like so pop my writhing jar see if it pops in the right order all right we only got two spiders out of that let's try that one more time we actually want a channel for a little bit first so there's corpses on the ground and we're good to go there then we can pop them and uh yep get some spiders out oh the flesh offering actually consumed more corpses than uh that I'm comfortable with yeah that's a little janky but hopefully this feels pretty good yeah we got 20 spiders going let's see yeah I don't know if the skulls are really gonna be worth it here the uh the Raging Spirits if they do give me Freedom Frenzy yep they do let's see how this does on the legion Pop the ball haste yeah no flame Dash no I definitely need an onset ring here put that back in yeah I mean when we're cruising we're cruising if I just play it properly right I guess you know I think the big thing here is uh only when I'm kind of in a big scary pack of monsters do I even really need to channel anything just to get that uh get that flesh offering up is it up it is up yeah I guess that I guess it takes a second or two to actually show up after I cast this is the first type of video that I've made like this hopefully hopefully you guys like it I use it this is basically me streaming right now this is my experimentation phase and how I make builds usually on stream so yeah hopefully hopefully this is a fun process to show on on a video as well yeah so I just spent a while trying to figure out why I couldn't summon the spiders in a consistent way and it was the automatic flesh offering it was casting like right away every single time that I was hitting cyclone and I wasn't able to consistently kill the uh the worms that come out of the writhing jar before the flesh offering cast it's such a loss of quality of life I think for mapping it's fine I would actually want something else to be able to kill the spiders to just like that this is the Jank right like I want something I want a one button summon the spiders consistently exactly how I want you know maybe there isn't a direct path here really wanted to just solve everything for single Target and mapping and making sure that the spiders were you know we're summoned in a very easy way every single time I really really liked the idea of just always having the flesh offering up all the time because it's automatically casting and yeah but I was just playing around with uh as I was buying a bunch of gems is I bought a summon skeletons as well as a dark pack raging Spirits they're they hit really hard and they're fast but they only do fire damage and if I had the skeletons and I'm using dark pact and you know chaos damage I don't know I don't know I think the dark the dark packs was just kind of silly but yeah maybe The Feeding Frenzy I think the Feeding Frenzy thing has kind of been leading me astray here we can ditch that and this is what I'm thinking right now is we can do enhanced convocation right here I get back my flame Dash thank God enhanced Divergent Cyclone Castle channeling convocation no flame dash for me right now we're gonna we're gonna manually cast our flush offering here as well I just it's just too annoying to me to have that flesh offering consuming the desecrate before the spiders come out and that's really bothering me I think I have to manually cast it alright we'll just leave the the skeletons in I don't know what else to put into that last gem socket right now I can't put it unfortunately I can't put in flame Dash I mean I guess it would make us kind of uh map a little bit quicker by just spamming that with the uh the castle channeling it's kind of cute so we'll put in our uh awakened melee Fizz and Yep this also gives us molten shell back on our left click so manually desecrate writhing jar Cyclone to kill the spiders good enough okay yeah we're basically where we were at the beginning before all right and it should accelerate to some pretty good damage slower because we have uh both punishment now and despair all right yeah decent damage uh and we'll do a steering ax Arc at the at the end of the video as well oh this is kind of an interesting idea for mapping we could actually just swap these two gems we could put convocation in the boots and we can put flesh offering in the uh in the casserole channeling this way we get back our uh convocation and left click it's always going to be up as we're running and this way flush offering is always up while we're you know doing regular content okay uh let's test this very quickly and uh let's see they paid very close attention how quickly the spiders run all right let's see can I get some spiders I got eight spiders good enough and yeah you can see we're still going really really quickly and hopefully the spiders are just kind of keeping up with us here especially with the convocation right they should be and uh yeah as long as I Channel a little bit to keep my flesh offering up that's basically all we're doing here and we can go pretty quick all right I don't hate this I don't hate this idea I see the appeal it is a it is a very neat build with a lot of uh a lot of access to a lot of different Tech and definitely if I'm doing anything like horrifically wrong here let me know I'm just I'm trying to figure out the right you know what's the essence of what makes this so compelling of a build and what's so fun about it I get it you know I don't have to not pressing much here and you know people were talking about a guardian variation or a champion variation even Champions cheating right put anything on a champion and it feels basically Immortal so I'm down to 12 spiders right now I gotta like yep down to 10 spiders so some desecrates some writhing jar 14 spiders see if we can get another one uh actually you know what I think the skeletons are conflicting with my spider summoning Let's uh let's go out and back in again yeah I think any minions at all right it's gonna make that very clunky I think minions are just a no-go I don't like it right it interferes with what I'm trying to do I don't know why I only got two spiders there oh well it's because the flesh offering right all right let's do that again right now you guys are seeing exactly exactly what's like kind of annoying me here because like I can't do anything until I have the spiders and so now I cast a couple desecrates now I kill the spiders now I got 18 and we're good to go and now I can put the flesh offering back in right like yes I can manually cast I don't mind doing that but I was kind of I was really looking for you know a one size fits all type of uh situation here okay and also all of that was with Divergent melee splash okay let's do a quick little single Target I just want to call out is that this is a hundred ish Divine setup right and I have like pretty darn good uh you know gems and everything I have the I'm a mom who's gays and everything I have really good large cluster Jewels all of my awakened gems are like 620 corrupted and everything people are saying hey this build helped me kill Ubers I I think the champion version people are saying that maybe the occultist versions uh you know just a mapping monster and it's just not made for being a like a full all-rounder like it can get the job done but that's like not really his goal all right get our Dusty crates up 14 spiders 20 spiders okay flesh offering I offer my flesh to you I mean not bad I mean that's respectable right um you know it's a hundred divines uh like technically I think I'm yeah I'm around 40 million DPS actually uh nearly at the dot cap in this configuration so pretty good damage I just wanted to share with you guys you know this is a bit messy of a video I usually try to edit it and be like super super strict about you know just sharing the information but I think this process you know this is what I do on stream all the time and I just want to share with you guys like this messy process what I do is I work through builds and you know I I 100 I believe you guys I believe that I don't know all the answers right now there's a lot of different variations you know there's different ascendancies I saw a solstice visual situation I also know there's a version where you actually have another era Collies that you weapon swap to an air college with an Aegis apparently when the spider gets summoned it's snapshots with that configuration so you summon all 20 with the Squire and then you weapon swap to an ages and then you become very very tanky I think the the doppelganger plus the verities plus the blue ring I think that's a very cool little setup right there is that strictly better than a brass Dome I do think it is better it opens up a another Aura for you to use which is great but I don't think it's like strictly strictly better although I do think the 40 less Fizz and Chaos damage dot is uh is really good so I think that's very compelling in this version of the build I tried all of your suggestions maybe there's something I'm missing hopefully it was very clear here at the end that I really want to demonstrate like that Jank of summing the spiders I tried everything with grapevines and without grapevines with Castrol channeling setups and not casual channeling setups for me that's like it's just a little too annoying for like to to be in love with the build also in a leak starter scenario like how how early are you gonna get uh you know a squire and everybody's Veil and like the like my damage gets cut in half right if I don't have a squire or less than that it's a cool build hopefully you learned something you know that I I try to just let my biases be here and just show you guys all the all the Jenkin experimentation and it just just I just want to share with you guys the process a little bit so yeah thank you so much for watching happy if you guys are in the uh the United States I've been listening to firecrackers and fireworks going off the entire time I've been recording uh so like some of those cuts there were just me uh you know waiting for the fireworks to stop going off happy actual Fourth of July and not Independence Day for everybody else not in America thank you guys for watching and uh yeah just I want to share with you guys Path of Exile stuff as we're ramping up for XL con I'm gonna be there so uh yeah hopefully I can meet some of you guys there it's gonna be a great time again thanks for watching and I'll see y'all soon goodbye [Music] [Music]

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Published: Wed Jul 05 2023