Trump Wave Crashing? Dean Hits Hannity, Carlson For COVID Lies As Cases Surge

governor and dr dean your response to donald trump um saying something straightforward but something that he'd been called upon to reiterate to people who listen to him more which is try the vaccine go get it done it works yeah i think it's important that he did that uh and i think it was important that he uh said that in front of his core followers who he has uh created uh uh a tremendous amount of pain in uh the one thing i will say uh about all this is that it it's very clear that the acceptance of the vaccine is growing i think the major reason it's growing is because a lot of people know people who are not only getting sick but dying a lot of unvaccinated people who basically didn't get the vaccine before especially in southern conservative states florida being the worst in the country now are taking the vaccine because their relatives and friends are dying yeah doctor can you speak to your fellow doctor and policymaker's point that uh there's different ways people learn but if if this thing is getting to a critical mass in areas where people had mentally or otherwise held out on it maybe they're having a different experience now yeah ari i think you know when this entire pandemic unfolded it did seem like it was limited to regions we knew it wasn't but we saw the northeast and then the pacific northwest and then eventually different regions of the country but until you saw this stark divide after we had vaccines authorized and not just one two three with an abundant supply ari across the country then you just saw those stark curves that you've been showing and data supports that over 95 of the hospitalizations are in unvaccinated people and then once you layer on top of that that young children young adults were also a huge driver in new cases it's only inevitable this was a virus that spread through social networks so it was only reasonable that people in social networks eventually knew someone who died was hospitalized and especially young people who were missing work and they were sick so i i do completely agree with governor dean and feel like this approval is just one more i think kind of stepping stone to getting honestly not soon enough but getting tens of millions of more people vaccinated whether it's by mandate or people stepping up and volunteering yeah which goes to as you say where do they get their information uh do they get it from their social group do they get it online or they get it from other sources which might be quite politicized you know governor dean on your list of people that you're worried about tonight i know that because i know you i know sean hanley might not be super high on your list but he's gonna have to figure out um because he's not consistent with anything he's said about this issue will he be sean hannity 1.0 who was attacking vaccines will he be 2.0 who actually at one point said get them will he be 3.0 who backtracked on that under pressure or will he be potentially 4.0 now that uh donald trump is out this weekend saying it i guess you'd have to tune in to find out but in the spirit of uh fact-checking a governor take a listen to the cdc director who i just interviewed and what she wanted people to know about why she says hannity's latest recommendations are false take a look now that we the science shows the vaccine will not necessarily protect you it's not protecting many people my job is to give accurate information to the american people here's the accurate information the vast majority of people in this country who are getting infected with kovad who are showing up in the hospital with covid and now who are dying with coven are people who have not received this vaccine dr dean uh yeah i mean i i look first of all we we shouldn't be discussing sean hannity and tucker carlson if they're not crazy there's something incredibly close to it so that's just a waste of everybody's time i i do think that they're they're going to now have to cover their butts because they've been riding the trump wave for a long time and it's just been for the money i don't think any of them have any personal convictions of any kind so let's just leave them out of the equation so we can actually talk about science and the facts yeah well on that point um on the science uh doctor the president today was also urging businesses um to do what traditionally in the united states the federal government doesn't um which is try to have some sort of mandates take a look if you're a business leader a non-profit leader a state or local leaver who has been waiting for full fda approval to require vaccinations i call on you now to do that require it doctor just give us a refresher on where the final approval fits in because uh we've heard from experts that even the emergency authorization was was perfectly fine to take it uh and what the president's getting at here because he's trying to get the business community to sort of back up what he says the cdc and the science uh provides for yeah ari i think what he's well number one you you certainly know that the law is on the side even when the vaccine was authorized not fully approved but i do know that businesses especially state and local leaders you've seen it with the mayor of new york city and other the superintendent of the san antonio independent school district they all were really waiting for this mandate to be able to say this approval to be able to mandate it and not to have to do this kind of compromise of a vaccine requirement plus testing so i think the approval really signals that the days of kind of carrots we talked about lotteries and handing out as many financial incentives to get people vaccinated sounded good in the beginning that was before the delta variant we don't have the luxury of that time so it does give a tailwind to people who are waiting for that approval i think on top of that it will also give businesses and local retailers a little more conviction to put up a sign in their storefront and say all of our all of our staff are vaccinated and you can feel safe coming in and i think ari that's not unreasonable to expect across the country number one a fair point number two i think sean hannity just called a dr dean if you need to take hannie's call so i shall i be taking some uh you're putting a vector what so i do i do some worming here and just takes take horse and cow we're deworming stuff and vecton or whatever it's called i have actually a question for the dog no we just um [Music] about the illness the nature of the illness of children because they can't be vaccinated this delta is clearly making children much sicker than the the first variant was i'm i'm toying with the notion i'm not a public health expert um of of thinking that we should break the blind in the studies and cons and go ahead and start giving an emergency uh just just an emergency uh vaccination for uh at least the pfizer which is being studied in young people for maybe even up as low as two what do you think about that yeah dr dean you bring up an important point it's something that by the way it's why the american academy of pediatrics actually had to release a statement today because now that pfizer is fully approved you could theoretically give off-label vaccines legally to people 12 and under you would have to consider the dose and consider what that consent looks like the aap wants us to back off and discourages any of us from doing that i think you're right governor dean that we have to start to address the fact that even a two percent hospitalization rate is unacceptable and that and yes unblinding the study unfortunately though what i would worry is is going to actually deter people from getting vaccinated right so we're close us as a country and and yeah unfortunately that's where we're at [Music] you

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Length: 8min 49sec (529 seconds)

Published: Mon Aug 23 2021