ANN'S RESTAURANT. >> Steve: HE IS DOWN THERE BECAUSE TONIGHT IS THE NIGHT. TAKE A LIVE LOOK AT ATLANTA, GEORGIA WHERE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND FORMER PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL SQUARE OFF IN THE CNN PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE THAT YOU WILL SEE RIGHT HERE ON FOX. >> Ainsley: BOTH CAMPAIGNS ARE MAKING AN 11TH HOUR PUSH TO SWAY THE VOTERS. >> Brian: BILL MELUGIN KNOWS ALL ABOUT IT LIVE ON THE CAMPUS OF GEORGIA TECH NEAR WHERE TONIGHT'S DEBATE WILL BE. BILL, WE PULLED YOU OFF THE BORDER FOR A GOOD REASON AND THIS IS ONE OF THOSE GOOD REASONS. BIG DEBATE. EARLY JUNE DEBATE. YOUR THOUGHTS? >> WELL, BRIAN, IT'S THE FIRST TIME SINCE 2020 THAT DONALD TRUMP AND JOE BIDEN ARE GOING TO COME FACE TO FACE WITH EACH OTHER. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WILL SHAKE EACH OTHER'S HANDS TONIGHT. DEMOCRATS ARE TRYING TO GET UNDER DONALD TRUMP'S SKIN. THE DNC PAID MONEY TO BUY OUT FIVE OF THESE BILLBOARDS IN THE ATLANTA AREA PUTTING UP NEAR HIGHWAYS OUT HERE GOING AFTER TRUMP FOR HIS RECENT FELONY CONVICTION THAT SAYS QUOTE, DONALD, WELCOME TO ATLANTA FOR THE FIRST TIME SINCE BECOMING A CONVICTED FELON. CONGRATS OR WHATEVER. WELL, A CONSERVATIVE NONPROFIT GROUP IS NOW HITTING BACK AT BIDEN AND HIS CAMPAIGN. THEY ARE GOING AFTER HIM ABOUT HIS BORDER POLICIES IN A RECENT SLEW OF HIGH PROFILE MIGRANT CRIMES. TAKE A LISTEN. >> HE WAS WANTED FOR MURDER, BUT BIDEN LET HIM IN. HE IS CHARGED WITH RAPING AND BEATING RACHEL MORIN. JOE BIDEN'S OPEN BORDER A NIGHTMARE FOR AMERICAN WOMEN. >> IN THE MEANTIME, TRUMP IS TRYING TO SET SOME EXCEPTIONS HEADING INTO THE DEBATE TONIGHT, HE POSTED ON TRUTH SOCIAL ABOUT JOE BIDEN, QUOTE: THE MAN IS A WALKING LYIN' MACHINE AND A FACT-CHECKER'S DREAM. MAYBE WE SHOULD CALL HIM LYIN' JOE IN ADDITION TO CROOKED. IN THE MEANTIME POLLSTER NATE SILVER THINKS THIS RACE ISN'T AS MUCH AS TOSS-UP SOME OF THE EXPERTS THINK. HE PUT OUT NEW PREDICTION MODEL SHOWS TRUMP CURRENTLY AT 65% PROBABILITY OF WINNING THE ELECTION IN NOVEMBER WHILE BIDEN COMES IN AT 33%; HOWEVER, BACK OUT HERE LIVE, THE "NEW YORK TIMES" IS OUT WITH A NEW SLATE OF POLLS WHICH SHOWS THIS IS A PRETTY TIGHT RACE STILL. THEY HAVE TRUMP AT 48%. COMPARED TO BIDEN AT 44%. WE EXPECT TO SEE BOTH TRUMP AND BIDEN SHOWING UP HERE IN ATLANTA IN THE COMING HOURS. TRUMP, AS WE ALL KNOW, REALLY HASN'T BEEN PREPARING FOR THE DEBATE. HE HASN'T BEEN DOING MOCK DEBATES. HE PREFERS TO BE OUT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL MEETING WITH HIS VOTERS. BIDEN TAKING A COMPLETE OPPOSITE APPROACH. HE HAS BEEN HOLD UP AT CAMP DAVID WITH MORE THAN A DOZEN ADVISERS COACHING HIM UP ON WHAT THEY WOULD LIKE HIM TO DO TONIGHT. SEND IT BACK TO YOU. >> Brian: BILL, ONE THING I THINK IS INTERESTING THERE WAS A DEBATE YESTERDAY ON ARE THE PRESIDENT'S EXECUTIVE ORDERS WORKING AT THE BORDER? WHAT HAVE YOU SEEN? >> Bill: THE NUMBERS HAVE DROPPED SIGNIFICANTLY SINCE THAT EXECUTIVE ORDER WENT INTO EFFECT IN EARLY JUNE. BUT THE BIG QUESTION, WHICH I ASSUME THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN IS GOING TO HIT HIM WITH IS WHY DID YOU WAIT OVER 3 YEARS TO DO THIS EXECUTIVE ORDER? YOU COULD HAVE DONE IT WHEN THE CRISIS FIRST STARTED IN 2021 OR 2022 BUT THEY WAITED UNTIL AN ELECTION YEAR TO DO IT. AND, REMEMBER, HE SAID OVER AND OVER I HAVE DONE ALL I CAN DO ON THE BORDER. EVIDENTLY NOT. >> WHEN IT BECAME A BIG ISSUE AND SEEING LAWRENCE AT THE DINERS YEAH THE ECONOMY IS IMPORTANT BUT SO IS IMMIGRATION. WHAT IS INTERESTING, BILL, AND THAT CONSERVATIVE AD FOR DONALD TRUMP THAT YOU JUST AIRED. >> Steve: BILLBOARD? >> Ainsley: NOT THE BILLBOARD. THE AD ON TV ABOUT RACHEL MORIN AND HER DEATH. IT'S INTERESTING HOW THEY ENDED THAT A NIGHTMARE FOR AMERICAN WOMEN. JOE BIDEN IS GOING AFTER THE WOMEN. HE WANTS THEIR VOTE ON THE ISSUE OF ABORTION. IT'S INTERESTING THAT NOW CONSERVATIVES ARE SEEING HAVING ILLEGAL MIGRANTS THAT ARE CRIMINALS CAN EFFECT THE LIVES OF THESE LITTLE GIRLS AND WOMEN. >> Bill: THAT'S A POINT A LOT OF CONSERVATIVES HAVE BEEN MAKING. THE NUMBERS ARE LOWER NOW, SO WHAT? EVERYBODY ALL L. COME IN. SINGLE ADULT MEN FROM REALLY ALL AROUND THE PLANET. ARRIVED IN OUR BORDER. CAUGHT AND RELEASE IN THE COUNTRY. NOW YOU GET A SENSE SOME OF THE CHICKENS ARE COMING HOME TO ROOST, WE KEEP SEEING WEEK AFTER WEEK AFTER WEEK HORRIBLE HIGH PROFILE CRIMES INVOLVING EITHER A RAPE OR A MURDER OF AMERICAN YOUNG CHILDREN OR WOMEN AND IT'S HAPPENING MORE AND MORE OFTEN, GUYS. >> Steve: IT IS, INDEED. BILL, THANK YOU FOR THE LIVE REPORT FROM DOWN IN GEORGIA. MEANWHILE, AT ONE POINT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT A FACT-CHECKER'S DREAM ABOUT, I THINK THAT WAS FROM DONALD TRUMP REGARDING JOE BIDEN. AND HIS LYIN'. THE "NEW YORK TIMES" IS DEPLOYING 29 FACT-CHECKERS TONIGHT FOR THIS PARTICULAR EVENT, INCLUDING -- PLUS, 31 REPORTERS AND EDITORS. AND THEY ARE ALL GOING TO BE WORKING IN REAL TIME TO TRY TO FIGURE OUT, YOU KNOW, IF WHAT THE PEOPLE ARE SAYING IS ACCURATE. I THINK WHAT'S INTERESTING THOUGH IS WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE TWO WAYS THAT THE CANDIDATES HAVE PREPARED, JOE BIDEN HOLD UP IN A CABIN UP IN THE CONGRESS CONGRESS TON MOUNTAINS CAMP DAVID. >> Brian: AGAINST HIS WILL? >> Steve: I DON'T THINK HE WAS BOUND AND GAGGED. HOPEFULLY NOT E WAS ALL BY HIMSELF WITH HIS ADVISERS AND THEN DONALD TRUMP OUT ON THE STUMP. HERE'S THE THING. TONIGHT IS GOING TO BE MORE LIKE IT IS AT CAMP DAVID. BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE A SMALL EVENT. NOT GOING TO BE A ROOM FULL OF CHEERING PEOPLE WHO LIKE ONE OR THE OTHER APPARENTLY MIC GUILTIES WILL BE MUTED. DEMOCRATIC STRATEGISTS ARE EXPECTING JOE COME OUT AGGRESSIVELY. IF HE USES THE SAME VOICE THAT HE USED AT THE STATE OF THE UNION, WHERE HE'S YELLING LIKE THIS IN A SMALL AREA, WE HAD MIKE HUCKABEE ON YESTERDAY. AND HE SAID HE IS GOING TO LOOK DERANGED. LOOK LIKE GRANDPA OUT ON THE LAWN SAYING GET OFF MY LAWN! THAT'S A PROBLEM. >> Lawrence: THAT'S ALMOST AN ASSET FOR THE FORMER PRESIDENT. BECAUSE ONE OF HIS STRENGTHS IS THE CROWD. AND SO BECAUSE THERE'S NOT A CROWD, HE IS NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO LEAN ON THAT AND BE THE ENTERTAINER THAT HE IS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT PEOPLE WERE CRITICAL OF IN THE FIRST DEBATE. IT'S JUST GOING TO BE HIM AND JOE BIDEN AND THE MODERATORS. AGAIN, THE PEOPLE'S PERSON IS NOT REALLY WHAT YOU NEED FOR THIS PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE TO KNOW THE ISSUES. REMEMBER, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THE BIDEN CAMP WANTED WAS FOR THE CURRENT PRESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO SIT DOWN AND FOR HIM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE NOTES. ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY SAID IN THE DEBATE IS YOU CAN GET A NOTE CARD, BUT NOTHING CAN BE WRITTEN ON THAT. SO, THEY CAN DO ALL THE PREP THEY WANT TO. THERE IS NO TELEPROMPTER AND NO NOTES. IS HE GOING TO HAVE TO REMEMBER EVERYTHING THAT HAPPENED IN REHEARSAL. IF YOU JUDGE THE CURRENT PRESIDENT'S MEMORY BASED ON ALL THE OTHER EVENTS WITH A PROMPTER AND NOTE CARDS. NOT VERY GOOD, GUYS. >> Ainsley: YEAH. ANOTHER ISSUE TONIGHT IS THE ECONOMY. I'M SURE YOU WILL BE TALKING TO THE OWNER OF THAT DINER. THEY WILL SAY EGGS ARE UP. BACON IS UP. EVERYTHING IS UP. THERE WAS A LETTER POSTED ON AXIOS AND THE LETTER LISTED 16 TOP ECONOMISTS THAT WARNED OF ECONOMIC DANGERS IF DONALD TRUMP IS ELECTED. BUT BE WHAT AXIOS DIDN'T REPORT IS THAT ALL OF THESE 16 INDIVIDUALS ARE EITHER BIG DONORS TO JOE BIDEN OR THEY HAVE SUPPORTED OTHER DEMOCRATS OR THEY HAVE SUPPORTED HIM VERBALLY. INCLUDING, FOR INSTANCE, A COLUMBIA UNIVERSITY PROFESSOR. HE DONATED $1,250 TO THE BIDEN VICTORY FUND IN 2020 AND BETWEEN 2004 AND 2020 HE DONATED OVER 90,000 TO DEMOCRAT DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES. THAT'S ONE OF 16. >> Brian: YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ECONOMY THAT'S WHAT THE FORMER PRESIDENT WOULD LIKE TO TALK ABOUT AND JOE BIDEN THINKS BIDENOMICS IS GREAT STORY TO TELL. WE WILL FINALLY GET IT SIDE BY SIDE. WHAT'S INTERESTING TOO THE NEW PEOPLE THINK THE NEW RULES WILL WORK TOWARDS TRUMP'S BEHEST IS CHUCK TODD. HE SAID YOU'RE ACTUALLY WITH THESE RULES, YOU ARE TRYING TO PIGEON HOLE DONALD TRUMP. >> BUT YOU ARE ACTUALLY MAKING HIM LOOK MORE PRESIDENTIAL. WHAT'S HIS GREATEST CRITICISM. INTERRUPTS. TURNS IT INTO A BRAWL. EVEN WHEN HE WAS WINNING THEM. HE GOES OUT AND BARBS. NOW YOU ARE KILLING HIS MIC AND KEEPING HIM IN A TWO SHOT. NOW HE WILL GET A CHANCE TO COLLECT HIS THOUGHTS AND GO. WHAT PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES WITH A SMALL LEAD RIGHT NOW, WHICH IS GETTING BIGGER IS LOOK PRESIDENTIAL. THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS HE CAN DO. MARK PENN CAME OUT YESTERDAY, LAST NIGHT AND SAID, LOOK, TRUMP HAS MORE TO LOSE NOW. IS HE ACTUALLY IN FRONT AND THIS HARRIS POLL GIVES HIM A 5 POINT LEAD. MY LAST POINT IS THIS TO KEEP IN MIND. YOU HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THE QUESTION TO BE ANSWERED. ONE MINUTE FOR THE REBUTTAL. AND THEN A ONE-MINUTE FOR REBUTTAL TO THE REBUTTAL. AFTER THAT IT'S THE DISCRETION OF THE MODERATORS IF THEY WANT TO EXPAND ON THAT. THAT'S WHEN THE BIAS COMES OUT. NOT SAYING THEY ARE NOT BOTH TALENTED, THE BIASES COMES OUT. THAT'S WHAT WORRIES THE TRUMP CAMP. FINALLY O'DONNELL CAME OUT YESTERDAY GOT BUSH READY AND MITT ROMNEY READY FOR THE DEBATES. THE BIGGEST CHANGE OVER THE LAST FEW YEARS, MODERATORS TALK TO MUCH. 10% USED TO BE MODERATORS. NOW IT'S 25%. WE ARE NOT THERE FOR THE MODERATORS, LAWRENCE. >> Lawrence: IT'S SUCH A GOOD POINT, BRIAN. WE ARE HERE TO HEAR THE CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT THE ISSUES
