Top 5 Faker Mistakes With Spray Foam Insulation

[Music] and this is why you don't get friends who owe you money to do things for it when i when we built i wanted to just get somebody to spray everything you know well they hardly have [Music] absolutely you want to see the worst possible job ever do the spray foam and don't do the caulking hello everyone mike with spray jones we're going to go over today uh the top uh five i think faker mistakes the fakers that are out there trying to spray foam you know the guys that just don't learn don't understand don't care they're gonna get you in a world of hurt if you hire them only you don't know had a guy make a comment he said the more i watch your videos the more concerned i get talking to the people that are in my area to which i replied well imagine imagine if i wasn't here how it would be you wouldn't know anything ignorance is bliss right well we're gonna try and get you educated here a little bit more today top five things that the fakers usually miss don't care don't want to know and the first thing i would put on the list is that they just paint with foam they're not interested in sealing things up seal and insulated are two totally different things sealing means that you're going to get the foam into cracks and crevices and joints and it's going to be all over the transition so that air isn't coming through the joints so that means lapping foam up and over top of something wrapping something encapsulating something making sure that foam is over top of a top cord in a roof or a connector plate uh but also means that you also then once you lap over that dissimilar joint that you build up sufficient thickness of foam so that it is insulated usually an inch is all that it takes but if you've agreed upon two or three or four inches of foam give the client uh what you've expected to charge them for so nobody's paying you to do the easy areas so you've got to confirm and there's different tools in the toolbox whether it's can foam or your closed cell two pound spray foam or your open cell half pound foam use one of the three products that are predominantly available to you to get your foam material into the joint into the crack into the tight area where two pieces three pieces of something are meeting that's where air is going to be coming through build your foam up from the tight areas first and then work your way out giving them sufficient thickness in those areas building it up in successive layers so that it is in fact sealed first and then insulated all right on to number two adhesion probably the single greatest thing uh next to sufficient thickness is adhesion uh super thin foam is going to cause a lot of problems but adhesion is is a constant problem even when the foam is the correct thickness you want to watch out for wet substrates so you know condensation is the enemy in the springtime in the summertime from rain from uh humidity levels that are rising or falling heating in the in the winter time stay away from propane heaters folks they just they throw off carbon dioxide and they throw off water and they make wood and metal sweat eventually once the humidity level gets fairly high i mean if you've got a fairly large building you can put propane heat into it or just switch to something that's indirect but wet and damp substrates whether the construction site still had some snow it was raining i prefer to get into these sites people ask me all the time hey when what temperature do you want to be spraying at listen i want to be above freezing and i want to have sufficient heat in the wintertime in a structure that we drive out the damp dry up the surface and get everything nice and toasty warm so that the foam is going to stick well don't don't play these games with trying to spray cold trying to spray at the edge all the time of when things can be done yeah you can push it but it takes a real professional to push it and to keep your eyes on it seasoned pros can easily make a mistake and get foam to start this bonding when the right climatic conditions exist so it's not it's not guaranteed to happen all the time but it can happen if you're not keeping an eye on it so watch adhesion number three thickness and being accurate um the fakers are always undervaluing the thickness they rarely are going to go over i mean there's there's a few dumbbells that are out there that go way too thick too quick and the foam cracks and all that sort of stuff but generally speaking they've under-priced the job they want to sell a two-inch job is a three-inch job and you're not getting what you paid for you're certainly not getting what you build were billed for so uh i see this a lot i saw guys that were consistently trying to be 20 and 30 underneath us and they were 20 and 30 percent under us on thickness too it was simple and the clients never called them out on it they never did i went into a job one time that i didn't get i took a look at the job guy i didn't know who i was i was like oh i saw you got spray foam i went and just checked things over go in there and he he didn't even have close to three inches of foam and i quoted him three and mike the guy i lost to was giving him two and i was like well he goes what do you think and i said i don't know is it thick enough and that's all i said you know so you've got to get out and check and have consistency you're going to be anywhere from you should be anywhere on closed cell foam from one quarter of an inch under what you've agreed to one quarter of an inch over now being too thick is a problem too if you've got furring and you've got channels that you're going to be doing and they put on way too much foam then they got to come back and shave that so i guess the best thing to do is just check your consistency let them have their averages because that's what's fair with a spray applied liquid product and make sure that you're getting what you paid for okay number four uh they don't clean up they don't mask they don't prep and they don't they don't look after things on sort of a technical standpoint especially when it comes to primers and you're going to hear me pushing this a lot more folks like i see a lot of guys spraying foam that aren't putting primers on plastics they're not putting primers on galvanized steel now i'm not saying every single situation requires a primer and anybody not using it is wrong i'm not saying that there's a lot of products out there that if you give them plastics as long as they're degreased or they've been had a mineral spirit wipe or some or some plastics don't even require something you know not everything is the same but we get into some shiny membranes and sometimes they're real slick as a button and it's hard to stick to them so they need a primer internal membranes like weeping tile membranes plastic membranes drainage for a drainage plane on the inside of a basement or something like that that's wheat wet and weeping that needs usually priming and that chemical etch into the steel into the wood into the plastics gives all the difference in the world to the foam sticking and stain stuck galvanized almost always should be primed um painted steels don't need to be and a lot of times things just need a degreasing or a simple power wash to get off dust and grime or soot or accumulation of just gunk that gets on stuff so that that's a judgment call but i'm just trying to make more and more people aware of it so that you don't get into something and then foam is popping off uh because they spray it over top of sawdust or something like that also masking goes a long ways tape poly staples right and then clean up i've been to jobs where guys walked away didn't clean didn't shave didn't do a thing left the client with a mess two three days you know if that's who you're dealing with if your spray foam guy has left you a great big huge mess don't pay the bill in full do not pay the bill unfold get them to come back or you know figure out what your time is worth because i just don't see that being right uh the spray foam guys should be cleaning up unless of course you agreed upon the fact that you're gonna do all the cleanup number five uh is caulking and air sealing of wood to wood joints uh and i would also say lapping joints properly in commercial detail work uh when you are done with the spray foam as you saw in the beginning of the video we're talking about caulking of the joints caulking should be done after the spray foam is done not before why because if you go and do it before and then you go put the foam on and then you go do your your trimming and you're scraping you're going to disrupt the caulking and wreck the very work that you've done i think that's a no-brainer but i gotta say it uh so go around do your prep do your spray foam check your depth take your uh your poly down take your tape down uh disassemble trim everything and then go around do your final checks do your caulk and do your air seal if you're doing on commercial buildings you got two you got a beam you got a cross joint bring the foam into the proper joint make sure things are air sealed architects engineers usually will have things drawn and show you exactly where they want the foam to be terminated when in doubt when you're dealing with somebody ask them where you want something to be start and stopped if you're lapping over top of an insulated concrete form basement for instance don't leave concrete at the top of the foundation exposed same thing with a regular foundation don't leave concrete on the top of the foundation exposed lap your foam over the top doesn't need to be the full full thickness you put on the wall but at least get some coverage over the top and roll it over this over to the edges those are the things that make huge differences otherwise you're gonna have water sitting at the top of the foundation as it gets cold uh air sealing of joints uh air comes through even though you got spray foam over here and spray foam over there but there's nothing in the joint air comes right through the joint makes things wet makes things moldy makes people upset so over over caulking can't be a problem usually uh trimming out your foam and doing your details properly when in doubt ask and agree upon what's going to be doing these are the five things that these fakers they don't understand they don't care they're never going to they want to be in and out and if you're the person receiving the foam or doing the foam incorporate this into your business incorporate this into your job check things over and you're going to have a good job and good workmanship so hope this has been of value to you we're going to have more and more update on videos coming out this spring uh trying to keep the content fresh and not rehash out all the old stuff we did last year we did a lot of great material and we're gonna find some new subject matter uh this year so thanks for clicking on the like and subscribe leave a comment we'll catch you on the next one

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Length: 11min 14sec (674 seconds)

Published: Wed Jan 19 2022