Thoughts on Edge of Tomorrow

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This is just my personal opinion, but I think you should consider stopping being so defensive of your thoughts in videos. In this one and in Planet of the Apes, you seem to constantly refer to the fact that your criticisms are valid, as if to preemptively shut down negative comments about "nitpicking". I think you've kind of become who you are on YouTube through your extremely detailed analysis, and there's no need to defend that. It kind of wastes time and makes you seem underconfident in the things you say.

Still a fucking awesome review and I'm so happy you brought up things I never even thought of before, and caught the words coming right out of my mouth about the omega knowing what would happen vs. Looking for him

👍︎︎ 127 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

I thought the movie was pretty good. I didn't think it was revolutionary or anything. It was just a very enjoyable sci-fi. The acting and the CGI was good. Obviously they couldn't spend too much time explaining how the Alpha blood and time traveling science work. I just accepted what's happening on screen as if the scientists don't really know exactly how the science works. It's a huge cop out. Still, I think more people would've gone to see it (and probably enjoyed it) if it was advertised better.

👍︎︎ 20 👤︎︎ u/vVlifeVv 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

While I agree with Adam's points I wonder what he feels is the most appropriate way to explain a time travel scenario. They all seem to have holes in them and the real meat and potatoes of this review was how bad the logic of the time travel was given the actions of the characters. I wish there was more criticism of the technical and character aspects instead of like 10 minutes of poking holes in the time travel.

👍︎︎ 15 👤︎︎ u/ZambiesInc 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

Just started watching the video and don't want to be a buzzkill, but... The whole "Omega knows about Tom Cruise being superimmortal" only comes out at the end, right? So maybe the omega didn't know at first that it could happen. It happened once with Blunt and it didn't stick long enough for Omega to notice anything. Then it happened to Cruise and it stuck for a while, so eventually the Omega caught on and realized that humans could acquire that power. After that point it would be dumb for it to send alphas after humans, yes, but before then... eh? I mean, it''s not like the Omega studied the humans by a textbook and learned that getting blood on them is bad for it.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/willdrown 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

The ending is truly a clusterfuck. I've seen many an attempt to offer a "true explanation", but honestly there are so many theories out there that I don't believe that the current ending is deeper than suggested. I searched to see if there was an alternate ending somewhere, but all I could find was a planned part of the third act;

When Tom loses the power, and they go to Paris, and Tom is preparing the team as they go into Paris where he’s telling them the rules of the movie, he tells the team everything the audience knows,” says McQuarrie. “Basically, he told them: ‘Kill as many Mimics as you want, but do not kill an Alpha. If you kill an alpha we’ll be right back here having this conversation, and we won’t even know it. The enemy will know we’re coming and they’ll kill us all.’ When they get to Paris there’s the classic horror movie scene where one of them gets separated from the group, and he gets attacked by an Alpha and kills it. As he kills it, you see the Omega reset the day and you see the point-of-view of the villain. We cut to the plane and hear the same speech all over again. This time when he gets to the line, ‘You can bet they’ll have a plan to kill us all,’ the ship gets hit. As the audience, you realize the enemy knows they’re coming. The problem was you were so exhausted by the time you got to that point.

(quote above courtesy FilmSchoolRejects' interview with screenwriter Christopher McQuarrie, which you can read here)

Since this was based off of a manga called All You Need Is Kill, I decided to see whether or not the ending in the book made any more sense (I wasn't planning on reading it anyways, manga's just not my cup of tea). Holy fuck, is that ending better.

MAJOR SPOILERS FOR ALL YOU NEED IS KILL. IF YOU WANT TO READ IT, STOP READING HERE.

In the book, there's a different set of rules involving the aliens. While they're still called mimics, instead of the Omegas and Alphas, there are Servers and Backups and Antennas, and if a person inherits the day-resetting power, they can't lose it with a blood transfusion. Without going into the complicated specifics about how looping works in All You Need is Kill, we'll just skip to the ending, which reveals that Rita has become an "Antenna," which means the Mimics are still able to loop. After Keiji kills the Server, Rita lures him into a fight and reveals that Keiji has to kill her in order to end the loop. If he dies, it's forever. If she dies, the loop will end and so will the war eventually. Only one of them can escape either way. Keiji reluctantly fights back, beats her and kills her.

(courtesy CinemaBlend article comparing the two here)

So not only does the manga not have the blood transfusion clause, but it has what could have been an amazing climax. Cage would have been forced to kill Rita and then be hailed as a hero for the rest of his life for doing so.

WHY COULDN'T THIS HAVE BEEN THE ENDING? Why did the blood transfusion bit have to come up at all? If you can "feel" it, why not just have it wear off after a while? I guess a happy ending was favored for the obvious reason of making the audience feel like everything's been wrapped up with a pretty bow.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/ColonelSanders21 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

Hey Adam, what were the parts of it that you loved? You only mentioned J Squad

Edit: Also, how was Tom Cruise supposed to get to the beaches after he got in the car crash and is now a branded war criminal that just escaped from captivity? Why do you think they had to sneak to J Squad on the military base?

👍︎︎ 14 👤︎︎ u/Aduckonquack97 📅︎︎ Oct 16 2014 🗫︎ replies

God the youtube comments. I dont know if they are serious or not, they are that stupid.

👍︎︎ 7 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Oct 18 2014 🗫︎ replies

I'm not trying to debunk anyone here, but it's my understanding that Tom Cruise didn't steal the Omega's power, but instead the whole day resetting thing is an instinctive reflex in the Omega triggered by the death of an Alpha,and when Tom Cruise had the blood spilled on him he himself accidentally entered the Omega's nervous system and became an alpha. Therefore I don't think Tom Cruise had the power to reset the day himself, but rather the Omega thought instinctly he was an Alpha and was resetting the day itself every time Tom Cruise died. I don't think therefore that the Omega was necessarily searching for him, rather I think it took a little bit to realize what was happening, aka that he was in its nervous system. I also therefore think that the Alpha's didnt want Tom Cruises blood, but rather they wanted him to bleed out the properties of the Alpha blood that were within him so that he could no longer trigger the resets. When someone else transfused their blood into him this happened anyways. There's still plenty of holes in the movie and in this explanation but I figured I'd post it anyways. Feel free to argue or debate any of this.

EDIT: This doesn't explain the ending at all either and I understand that, but I don't think anything will. It kind've defied all logic.

👍︎︎ 6 👤︎︎ u/Napella 📅︎︎ Oct 17 2014 🗫︎ replies

So I'm assuming the picture of the kid at around 16:45 is you right?

👍︎︎ 5 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ Oct 17 2014 🗫︎ replies
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[YMS]: Edge of Tomorrow is not as good as people say it is. Everybody’s treating it like some hidden gem masterpiece that deserved so much more money than it got, but to me my praise stops at, ‘Eh, it was alright.’ I mean, I wouldn’t call it a bad movie, but parts of it are really... dumb. And before everybody loses their shit let me just say that there are parts of it that I really love. Like other reviews I’ve done in the past, I’m not saying this movie sucks, it’s just above average instead of spectacular. Some of these points hold more weight than others, but the only order I’m going to be putting them in is chronologically. So let’s just start at the beginning. So the movie opens up with a news footage montage. HEY WHY DOES GERMANY LOOK SO MUCH LIKE RUSSIA??? Now although this is done better than the average news-footage-montage-Hollywood -blockbuster-action-movie intro, it would be nice to feel as though there’s some other way to relay information to audience members at the beginning of a Hollywood blockbuster action movie. Kind of beating a dead horse there. Still, like I said, credit where credit is due, this intro is done slightly better than a lot of other intros that are nearly identical to it. Rather than just informing us of the political climate in the story’s universe, we’re able to gather information about specific characters that appear in the film. We learn that Rita Vrataski is being held up as the Angel of Verdun; [Cruise]: …was able to kill hundreds of Mimics on only her first day in combat. [YMS]: After having seen the film, we can infer that it was on that day that she got her time travel powers. We also get to see Tom Cruise’s role in the military. So even though they chose an embarrassingly overdone way to deliver this information, I’m glad that the information that we got out of it was at least important towards the story. We’re then informed through standard action movie font that we’re in London, before we see our main character waking up in a helicopter. The helicopter lands, and as soon as he exits we are informed again that he is, in fact, in London. [Welcome to London Lady]: Welcome to London, Major! [YMS]: You know, just because it’s the standard in these types of movies to inform the audience members where they are on the globe using that exact same font, it doesn’t mean that you should do it, especially if a character is going to mention the location within a minute of using the title anyway. When I watch a film, I like to be immersed in its universe. So considering those titles do not exist in the film’s universe, you should probably only use them when absolutely necessary. Obviously this isn’t one of my main points against the film, as I am just going through these chronologically, but it is an issue that to me is at least worth mentioning. So this general starts telling Tom Cruise about Operation Downfall: [General]: A lot of good soldiers are going to die tomorrow, Major. When the smoke clears and the body bags start coming home people tend to look for someone to blame, someone like me. [YMS]: So because he doesn’t want to be blamed for these deaths, he tells Tom Cruise that he needs to go film Operation Downfall in the first wave. Tom Cruise is like, no thanks I don’t want to die. And the general is like, [General]: It’s not an offer Major, it’s an order. [YMS]: So Tom Cruise realizes he’s not getting through to him and out of desperation he tries to blackmail him. Which almost seems to work until: [General]: Arrest this man. [YMS]: Awww, shit. He then wakes up and finds out he is not where he wants to be. He explains that he’s an American officer and asks to use a phone to sort out this mistake. But it looks like that general from before has indeed fucked him over. [Sergeant]: It says here you were caught impersonating an officer. It says here you’d likely try to make an outside call, even compromise the security of this operation, anything to get out of combat duty tomorrow. [YMS]: He then gets introduced to J-Squad, and I personally love this scene. Now I have no idea if any of these characters are in the manga, but something about the way they’re delivered is so interesting and fun to watch. I mean, especially with Mr. Blank Slate as our main character. By the end of this scene we’ll have only seen these characters for less than two minutes and already they have loads of personality. The relationship between J Squad and the Sergeant is clearly shown without having to explain it. And it does a great job of emphasizing just how screwed Tom Cruise is. [J-Squad Member 1]: You’re not in uniform, private. [YMS]: So now it’s the next day and our main character is being thrown into battle. Typically when an audience is being exposed to something new onscreen, it helps to have a character who is equally unfamiliar with it. Now that being said I think the movie would have worked better if it weren’t Tom Cruise playing Tom Cruise. He’s not a bad actor and he was pretty fantastic in Magnolia, but it feels like this role was written for someone a lot younger than him. Anyway he narrowly escapes death a few times, and then some giant thing comes out of the ground! As soon as it notices Tom Cruise it runs towards him but he’s fast enough to kill it. Its blood gets all over his face and then he dies and then he wakes up again. It’s at this point where he realizes he’s in Groundhog Day. He experiences the same day again, remembering everything that happened. He uses this knowledge to save this girl but then dies anyway, at which point he wakes up again! So we get an entertaining montage of him living, dying, and repeating Heh heh He winds up doing the same thing so many times that he becomes a badass and gets to this girl: [Rita] Come find me when you wake up- [YMS]: So now he tries to escape J-Squad to find the female lead, and that turns out to also be a trial and error effort. After many tries, he gets to her and she starts explaining his situation. [Rita]: What happened to you happened to me. I had it, I lost it, ok? [Cruise]: Yeah, I mean that’s great there’s a cure, how do I get rid of it? [YMS]: I like how he asks to get rid of the only reason he’s alive right now. ‘Yes, please cure me of my immortality before I go into battle again.’ What he should have asked is, ‘How do you know that your power stopped working unless you’ve tried killing yourself and didn’t come back?’ ‘I don’t have the power anymore, I tried killing myself and I didn’t come back! Urk.' There’s a line of dialogue near the end of the movie that explains this a little, so don’t worry, I’ll get to it when it shows up. We’re introduced to this character, who knows everything about Mimic biology. Just in time for the fake science mumbo-jumbo scene. [Scientist]: You’re not fighting an army, you have to think of this as a single organism, these common drones they act like its claws. [Rita]: The Alphas, like the one that you killed, are much more rare- [Scientist]: Yeah, they’re like 1 in 6.18 million, by my guess. [Rita]: Yes. They act as the enemy’s- [Scientist]: They’re like the central nervous system. But this, is the brain. It controls them all. And this, is the Omega. And the Omega has the ability to control time. [Rita]: Whenever an Alpha is killed, an automatic response is triggered. The Omega starts the day over again. But you see this time, it can remember what’s going to happen, just like you do. [Scientist]: When you killed that Alpha, you inadvertently entered the enemy’s nervous system. [Rita]: Cage. You’ve seized control of the Omega’s ability to reset the day. [Cruise]: Internal Screaming [Rita]: You control the power now. Just as I did in Verdun. [YMS]: Alright, so everything that every single one of these Mimics is doing is being controlled by the Omega. If one of the Alphas dies, then the Omega resets the 'day.' But if the Alpha’s blood spills on somebody, then they get the power to reset the day instead and the Omega loses the power to reset the 'day.' If the Alpha blood got spilled on an earthworm would it get to reset the day forever? Tom Cruise pretty much insta-killed that Alpha so I guess we’re supposed to assume that there’s a bit of a lag, considering the day didn’t reset as soon as it was killed, so the Omega’s controlling every single one of them, and it sends the Alphas into battle… why? If the only way humans can steal that power from the Omega is to kill an Alpha, why does it even send Alphas into battle? Shouldn’t the Omega just keep them hiding underground ready to off themselves? Like, even if it needs to be close by to be part of its central nervous system, it could still hide underground! And if the only reason they knew you were coming is because they’ve already reset this day: [J-Squad Member 2]: What the hell… They’re not supposed to know we’re even coming… [J-Squad Member 3]: It’s a slaughterhouse man, it’s a slaughterhouse! [YMS]: Then how did this even happen? Isn’t the point of them resetting the day so that they know everything you’re about to do? Apparently no other Alphas have been killed in battle up until this point on this particular 'day,' they’ve reset the day enough times to be able to strategically kill your whole squad, and then when this Alpha notices that Tom Cruise is about to accidentally reset the 'day,' at this point the Alpha could just let Tom Cruise shoot it and be like, ‘whatever, I’ll just know where you are next time the 'day' resets.’ But instead it does the only thing that could possibly give Tom Cruise the Omega’s powers, and goes, 'WOULD YOU LIKE A HUG?!??' Later in the movie they confirm that the Omega is aware of how this happens: [Cruise]: It could’ve killed me but it didn’t. It was after my blood. [Scientist]: So they know who you are, they… they want their power back. [YMS]: So why the fuck does it go out of its way to do the only things that could possibly allow it to happen? 'Man, I sure hope that those humans don’t steal my ability to control time, I’d better send some Alphas out there to hug them to death.' Also, the Omega has the ability to reset the day, but instead of it being an actual ability it’s more like an unintended by-product? Like there’s several points in this movie where it would have made a lot of sense for the Omega to just be like, ‘Whatever I’m resetting the day now bitch.’ But it’s almost as if it can’t do it unless an Alpha dies? Like if nobody kills an Alpha then it can’t reset the day? [Scientist]: See you’ve got to understand is this is a… perfectly evolved, world conquering organism. [YMS]: You know what I would do if I were a perfectly evolved, world conquering organism? I would take advantage of the fact that I could reset the day if one of my Alphas dies. It’s clearly aware of its powers and its strategic benefits, but at no point does the Omega order an Alpha to kill themselves. I mean, the humans haven’t had that power very long and they’ve already figured out how to take advantage of it. So even near the end of the movie where the Omega has its powers and it’s witnessing Tom Cruise swimming towards it with a shit-ton of grenades, not only is it apparently unable to manually reset the day just by wishing it, but it’s never once thought, 'Hey, maybe I should get one of my Alphas to kill itself right now so I can reset the day and stop Tom Cruise before he gets here!’ This being the same species that stopped Tom Cruise from trying to kill himself because they knew it would reset the 'day.' You’ve stopped your enemy from killing themselves because you knew it would reset the day so why haven’t you ever tried that? Not even for the sake of self-preservation does it feel as though that’s even an option. Even if the Alphas can’t kill themselves you can get another Mimic to do it. Don’t act as though their exteriors’ too strong or some shit. Weren’t they firing a bunch of rockets at the beginning? Why don’t you just leave one hanging out somewhere with a rocket pointing at its face ready to kill itself? So Tom Cruise does a bunch of training and breaks his back. [Rita]: You get injured on the field, you better make sure you die. [Cruise]: Why? [Rita] Last time I was in combat, I was hit. I was bleeding out. Just not fast enough. I woke up in a field hospital with three pints of someone else’s blood and I was out. I lost the power. Do you understand? [YMS]: Oh, a blood transfusion, that’s oddly specific. Is there a specific amount of someone’s blood that needs to be in you for you to lose your power? Do you lose the power if you accidentally get someone else’s blood in your mouth? You know, for something that doesn’t exist, like time traveling into the past, the less you try to pretend it makes sense in a movie, the better. When you try to pretend it’s something physical inside someone’s blood it sounds kind of stupid. Yep, I hit the three pint mark of someone else’s blood, now I can’t do it anymore. If the power’s in your blood then why does getting somebody else’s blood give the power back to the Omega? It’s not like your blood spills back onto the Omega and then it gets its power back, like the only reason the Omega’s not doing it is because you have to take turns. So then we get another training montage where Tom Cruise lives, dies, and repeats, heh heh, until finally he gets a vision. So now they need to figure out how they’re going to get off the beach so they can track down the Omega. So we get another montage of them figuring it out through trial and error. So the Omega knows exactly what you’re doing and controls every single one of those Mimics, but it’s controlling them to do the exact same thing every time? Like, if it didn’t do that then you’d never be able to predict it. It’s helping you succeed for absolutely no reason. So if you’re going to make the argument that the day resets for Tom Cruise without the Omega being aware of it, then how did it track him down to give him that vision and what happened differently that time that didn’t happen any of the other times? If the Omega senses that its powers are lost and it’s trying to track down Tom Cruise, but it’s unaware of the day resetting, then it would be looking in the exact same place every single time. The only way the Omega could eventually track down Tom Cruise is if it tried something different every time the day reset. Seriously, Tom Cruise was training in the exact same place and dying in the exact same place the whole time, so if the Omega eventually mind-tracked him down it would have to be aware of the day resetting. If that’s not the case then I guess Tom Cruise just happened to crawl to the exact same spot it was searching every single 'day.' And if that’s the case, then that very specific spot would have had to have been its first guess. Clearly it has the ability to do things differently every time the day resets, even if the day’s being reset by Tom Cruise. And yet it’s controlling every single one of those Mimics to do the exact same thing every single day? How does it benefit the Omega for Tom Cruise to be progressing? If it’s aware enough of you resetting the day for it to be able to find you, then why does it insist on every single Mimic doing the exact same thing every single time? If it’s not aware then how did it find you? You can have one or the other, not both. We then get a scene of Tom Cruise being confronted by people from J-Squad, and it’s this scene that really shows the heart of why people enjoy this concept. There’s something about being able to predict everyone’s every move that strikes a chord with us as human beings. It combines the 'What if things were different' fantasy from time travel movies with the making people question their own sanity concept we see in a lot of popular prank videos. Having that sort of omniscience and mental power over people is something that we all wish we could do. So it’s no surprise that even though this type of scene has been done a million times before, it’s still entertaining, for now at least. So eventually they escape the beach, find a car, run out of gas, find another place, and then find a helicopter. Tom Cruise wants to siphon the gas from the helicopter but Rita insists they should fly it. But first Tom Cruise wants to tend to her wound. He makes her some coffee, but then: [Rita]: How many times have we been here? [YMS]: Oh, so Tom Cruise was just pretending that this was the furthest he’s gotten, when secretly he’s done this a million times. [Rita]: What are we still doing here, you’re wasting time. [Cruise:] Rita, if you start that engine you die. [YMS]: SHIIIIIIIT [Cruise]: There’s a Mimic, buried, twenty yards away, and it attacks when you start the engine. Only one of us ever makes it. [Rita]: Get in. [Cruise]: The only thing we haven’t tried is a version where you walk away, just go back to the farmhouse. There’s a cellar, there’s food, you wait there ‘till I get back. You’ll be safe. [Rita]: I’m a soldier. I volunteered, I’m not walking away. [Cruise]: You die here! Right here! And if I go on and kill the Omega, you’re dead. Forever. [Rita]: Why does it matter what happens to me? [YMS]: Really, you don’t care if you die? [Rita]: You’re not being specific, do you understand, you need to be specific, otherwise I’m dead. [YMS]: Why the fuck do you want to die so bad? He is giving you a potential option to save your life while he goes to kill the Omega. She doesn’t even bother to ask him the circumstances under which she would die if she did start the helicopter. Like maybe she could start the helicopter, and prevent it still if she knew how it was going to attack her, but nope, she’s in suicide mode! What’s that, there’s another option we haven’t tried where I get to live and you get to kill the Omega? No way! Eeewwwps! If you’re putting the mission ahead of your own life shouldn’t you be doing exactly what he says anyway? Is it not apparent to you that if you die he will kill himself and restart it? If you want him to destroy the Omega why aren’t you listening to him? ‘Adam, that’s not far-fetched, people act irrationally all the time to transition the second act into the third in Hollywood movies. When you’re going into the third act people have to be sad or upset with each other and how it happens is irrelevant. You should just enjoy the movie by ignoring parts of the movie.’ So now Tom Cruise decides that the only thing left to do is just not tell Rita anything, he destroys all of the Mimics at the barn and then goes in the helicopter by himself. So he gets all the way to this specific location in Germany and oh shit, the Omega isn’t even there! So then this Alpha shows up and he’s like, super pissed. It stops Tom Cruise from suiciding, but he’s sneaky enough to crawl into this little space and then he drowns. [Cruise]: It was after my blood. [Scientist]: So they know who you are, they... they want their power back. [YMS]: They know who you are and they want their power back. They wanted your blood. Were they just gonna like, swim around in it? Did your blood not get on any of those Mimics those other million times they killed you? I guess it only works for Alphas. And despite there being an Alpha on the very same battlefield you have been dying 8 million times on, it never once decided to cut you open and swim around inside you. So let’s just say that the Omega wasn’t certain it was him until he showed up at that place, did he not run into a bunch of Mimics on the way to that place? Would it not have been easy for the Omega to assume that the one guy escaping the battle headed in that very same direction is the guy that stole their power? He died from those Mimics on the farm enough times to memorize where they were, they could have just immobilized him and waited for an Alpha to show up. But nope, this is a perfectly evolved world conquering organism that’s dumber than a small child. I mean, look at this stupid little shit. What, you think life’s happy or something, you’re wrong, grow up and stop being a little bitch! And if the Omega’s conscious of the day repeating, which the movie tells us it is, then it should notice that Tom Cruise is the only fucking person doing something differently every single goddamn day. And even earlier than that it should have noticed that Tom Cruise was the only person in the battle that exploded an Alpha over top of himself. I am trying to view this story according to the rules that the movie set up for itself. Why does this make me the bad guy? Time for some more fake science mumbo-jumbo! [Cruise]: What is this thing? [Scientist]: It’s a transponder. You stick it into the Alpha and it taps into the wavelength connecting it to the Omega, that’s the idea anyway. [YMS]: WHAT? How the fuck did you build this shit??? ‘Hey, I built a device that if you stick it into a live Alpha it taps into the wavelength connecting it to the Omega.’ [Scientist]: Hey, hey, hey! Aren’t you forgetting something? The transponder requires a live Alpha to make it work! [Rita]: We don’t need one. We’ve got the next best thing. [YMS]: Yeah, fuck you guy who invented this impossible device, we’re the real experts. This ought to resolve that conflict. So now they have to go on an adventure to get an actual working one, and hey, it’s back where the general is. He manipulates him into opening the safe right behind his desk and giving him exactly what he needs. And apparently this is the first time they’ve ever gotten this far. They try to leave with it, but oh shit! Alright, let’s try this again except now we have a get-away car. So while they’re escaping they jam it into his leg and within 25 seconds of doing so, he knows exactly where the Omega is. So now he snaps out of it and they’re still driving for some reason. What, do you think you’re going to go back to the fucking base? The same base where the general had complete power to fuck over Tom Cruise in the first place? Where is it do you think that you’re going and why don’t you shoot Tom Cruise in the head right now? Oh wait, there’s a major plot device that wouldn’t happen if they didn’t get into a car accident. So let me get this straight, the both of you are very experienced in this whole time travel thing. For Tom Cruise, it seems like he’s been doing it at least a year in his time, and yet neither of them thought, hey why do we even need to escape this building in the first place? Why don’t we stick it into your leg in the same room as the general? If they did that not only would they know exactly where the Omega is, but they wouldn’t have any resistance while doing it because they could do it while the general’s still at gunpoint. And if you didn’t want to share that information with the general you could just kill Tom Cruise directly after. Then Tom Cruise could just show back up and be like, ‘Hey, I know exactly where the Omega is, let’s start doing shit to kill it!’ But given the fact that Tom Cruise didn’t know how to use this device until this very scene: [Cruise]: What am I supposed to do with this? [Rita]: Stick it in your leg! [YMS]: Apparently it crossed neither of their minds in the at least dozens of times they’ve been on this mission to get this device. What fucking reason do you have to leave the building in a chase scene? For what reason did you not try using the device as soon as you got it? Like never mind the fact that your wild guess that it would work on a human being just happened to work out, why on earth did you feel as though you needed to escape the building with it? Especially after you already tried it once and realized there would be an army chasing you? This is a movie that punishes you for trying to get into the minds of the characters. Either the movie just doesn’t want you to do that or the script itself doesn’t understand the characters that they’ve written. Analyzing a movie is something that fans of the movie should be doing if they like the movie. Keep in mind that I’m able to enjoy it, it’s a fun popcorn flick! But people seriously need to stop translating ‘I enjoyed it’ into ‘10/10!’ So they drive around a bunch going who the fuck knows where, Tom Cruise gets shot in the leg and then they crash. He wakes up and oh no, I got a blood transfusion! Maybe I shouldn’t have tried driving away in a car with dozens of trained military personnel firing at my vehicle. There was just no other way! So Rita breaks him out and is like, ‘Let’s start over, I’m gonna kill you now,’ but he’s like, ‘No, I lost the power ‘cuz I got a blood transfusion!’ [Cruise]: I lost the power! I feel it. [YMS]: OK, so *finally* they give some sort of indication as to why they’re so certain that they lose their power. Still feels kind of cheap to me personally, but if you’re okay with this explanation then that’s okay. It’s a nice save to a movie that would otherwise have characters making one in a million wild guesses that just happen to be 100% accurate, like certainty over the existence of the Omega, and certainty over this untested technical mumbo-jumbo device, and its compatibility with species it was not designed for, and the unquestionable fact that if you specifically kill an Alpha it resets the day. Not sure how they came to that conclusion, considering nobody could have ever possibly observed it! Here in Hollywood, wild one in a million guesses are facts! The story needs the main characters to understand this information, so how they understand it is completely irrelevant. They’re just omniscient beings that enjoy taking the route that causes them the most conflict. So now that Tom Cruise doesn’t have his powers, the stakes are really high. Suddenly everything’s super serious now because there’s real consequences to death. They go back to J-Squad and he manipulates them into helping out. So finally we’re back with the only interesting characters in the whole movie. Mr. and Mrs. Blank Slate just didn’t cut it for me, so this is a breath of fresh air. So J-Squad steals an aircraft and now they’re on their way to the Louvre in France. [J-Squad Member 2]: Do not kill an Alpha! If we kill an Alpha the Omega will reset this whole day. [YMS]: We’re not sure how anybody knows that to be a fact, but we will consider it to be one. How does anybody know that it’s when you kill an Alpha and not when you kill the Omega? The amount of evidence you have pointing towards either are equal. Not a single character has ever witnessed the day being reset by an Alpha dying. If the day gets reset by an Alpha dying then you don’t remember it. How did anybody come to this indisputable conclusion? [J-Squad Member 3]: So what am I supposed to do if one of those Alphas is about to kill me? [Cruise]: Take a hit for the team. [YMS]: Take a hit for the team, or just make sure its blood spills on you and then you’ll get the powers! You know, Tom, you’ve done that battle on the beach so many times, you don’t think you could recreate what gave you your powers in the first place? Right now you’re going into uncharted territory with no fucking clue what you’re going to do! You have no idea how many Mimics are there, where they are, what kind of defenses they have set up, or fucking anything! You don’t think it would be a better idea to go into the setting that you basically have memorized to get your powers back? Is the movie pretending like, ‘Oh no he can’t do that, because this time they know who he is and they’ll remember him if they see him and then they’ll do things differently.' But hasn’t he reset the day several times since they saw him? So shouldn’t the Omega not know who he is now? Shouldn’t he be able to go back to that very same battlefield and have all of them do the exact same thing that he’s already memorized? Because if that’s not the case then that means the Omega can retain information even if it’s not the one resetting the day. And not only would that do away with the entire idea of Tom Cruise stealing its power, like how would there be a disadvantage to somebody else resetting the day if you can do things differently every day anyway, but there would be absolutely no reason why the Omega would have the Mimics doing the exact same thing every day in the first two acts of the movie. So can it retain information when Tom Cruise resets the day or can’t it? Isn’t the whole point of the power that you can retain information when the day resets? Isn’t the whole plot of the movie that Tom Cruise stole that ability from the Omega? You can’t fucking have both! Especially if zero percent of the characters are going to acknowledge this major contradiction. Why don’t you just go back to the beach and get your powers back easily? Then this uncharted boss battle can be done 8 million times until you get it right. The characters are omniscient geniuses when it’s convenient for the script, and the characters are bumbling morons when it’s convenient for the script. ‘Adam, that’s not important, it’s just the entire plot of the movie. The film’s logic only gets contradicted in like, every single scene. You should just enjoy the movie by ignoring parts of the movie.’ Let’s all go to where we think the Omega is and hope that it’s not the most heavily guarded fortress in all of the universe. Oh shit, we fucked up. Man, if only there was some way where I could have my time travel powers while doing this battle. There was just no other way. What a surprise, they get shot the fuck up. There are needless casualties and Tom Cruise almost drowns. So now all of the Mimics that were attacking them suddenly disappear so our characters can regroup and figure out what the fuck they’re doing. They decide they need to use this thing to crash into the wall so they can get inside, two of them heroically suicide, and one of them becomes another needless casualty. It’s a good thing the Omega’s stronghold was a fortress of glass. So they manage to get inside and dodge death a few times. They see an Alpha close by and they’re like, ‘Okay, one of us is going to distract it while the other one goes to kill the Omega. And let’s just both expect that we’re both gonna die here.’ Let’s just remember that everything they know about the Omega is just what they’ve seen visually through those visions. You brought all those grenades, but are you certain that they’ll even damage it whatsoever? Did your vision inform you as to how much firepower you will need to destroy the Omega? Like you haven’t even confirmed that it’s actually here. You are doing this based off of a vision. A vision strikingly similar to another vision that was completely wrong, remember? Maybe this would all have been a lot easier if there was a way that you could have gotten your powers back. So she goes to distract the Omega, and she dies. Oh no. Tom Cruise takes his chance and- uh, god-goddammit. So now he’s swimming towards the Omega with a bunch of grenades and the Alpha swims towards him to try to stop him. Let’s just all forget that they could stop him easily if the Alpha committed suicide right now. Or if the Omega wasn’t comically unable to use its own powers unless an Alpha dies. The Omega can’t control any of the other Alphas on the planet to be killing themselves right now? Can it not control any of the other Mimics to kill the Alpha? Nope, because this is where the main character has to save the day. So the Omega explodes and everything it’s controlling withers up and dies. And then oh my god, the Omega’s blood seeps around Tom Cruise and you guessed it, the day resets. God fucking damn it. So I guess I’m going to have to kill the Omega all over again, right? Well that would be the most logical, so no. You see, this time when the day resets, the Omega dies before Tom Cruise killed it. And also, instead of him waking up as a fresh recruit like 100% of the other times he woke up in this movie, he gets to keep his rank as an officer! Yay! So like even though nobody knows he saved the day he gets saluted and respected! Yay! A. The Omega died so the day shouldn’t have even been reset, and B. If the Omega resets it should still be alive. It’s not like every single time the day reset for you before the enemies weren’t still there that you already killed. Fuck logic, what people want is a happy ending. So overall this movie was way too distractingly inconsistent and self-contradictory for me to be able to consider it great. There were parts of it that I loved, but a lot of it I just couldn’t take seriously. It was generally fun to watch but unlike the movies that I love, this is one that punishes you for trying to think about it. If that doesn’t make the movie any worse for you that’s okay, I’m not trying to get you to stop enjoying things that you like. But for me personally, I prefer watching a story that can at least follow itself. I’m not asking for a time travel movie to make logical and physical sense, all I’m asking is that it follows the very same rules it sets up for itself. I guess maybe that’s just asking too much.
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Rating: 4.6591468 out of 5
Keywords: edge of tomorrow, live die repeat, edge of tomorrow review, live die repeat review, review, yms, quickie, thoughts on, everything wrong with edge of tomorrow, everything wrong with live die repeat
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Length: 28min 11sec (1691 seconds)
Published: Thu Oct 16 2014
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