THIS OLD LOGAN LATHE tubalcain buys another one

howdy it's trouble Cain again and this video is to show off the Logan lay that I bought several weeks ago at an estate sale if you haven't seen that video it's in three parts called tubal-cain goes to an estate sale and that's where I show my purchasing this lathe and all of the accessories it's a three part video so take a look at that now this Logan 10 inch lathe is a model 820 and that's marked right on the quick change gearbox and there's the serial number and it looks like it's about 1946 or 1947 manufacturers so that was right after the Second World War when it was it you were able to buy machinery again after the shortages ten nice little lathe quite dirty I have not cleaned it up much I spent a little time on it but mainly on the trucks and so on but it's still filthy dirty and greasy and full of chips and that is yet to come and I doubt that I will paint it but let's take a look at some of the features of this lathe I got my way home got the Logan late loaded in my trailer pulling it with my old Toyota I'm pretty easy to load for a man helped me roll it up the ramp there rollers underneath it casters cheap casters now I got 10 miles to go ride back home and hopefully somebody will help me out it's a flat belt drive leather belt which I had to shorten up a little bit because it was too relaxed three-cone pulleys and then the back here so I give six speeds and then there's two speeds over on the other pulley which I'll show you so there's a total of twelve speeds in this lathe including the back gear now one thing I did not like about these lays is that when you open up the belt guard here which is very very heavy because it's cast-iron they didn't use aluminum but boy that should slam down on you it would be a finger pincher but there is a prop for that but as you lower it it also tightens the belt you raise it and the belt is in the relaxed position but one has to be very careful of this so you don't smash your hands and I mean that's heavy Logan ladies don't get a lot of respect but they really are a good machine and everything's cast-iron it's very well built and I have used a lot of them when I worked in various shops but behind this belt guard look at all that paint that's peeling and that was the original color but it was painted green and then gray but whoever painted it was a and painted red over oil because that paint is just peeling everywhere and at the auction site there was a wire brush there and I gave it a quick brushing just so some of that paint didn't come home with me but there are two steps on this pulley and of course on that motor pulley and I have to make an adjustment I cannot get the belt on the larger pulley which would be the slower speed because of an interference right here so I got some adjusting to do I'm not sure exactly what I got to do but that'll get done in due time one downside of this lathe and many of the South bands too if you do not have the collet attachment you have a relatively small spindle hole there that's always a bottleneck when you do larger work but since I have several A's I wasn't going to be a real problem for me but if you only have one lathe it can be problematic opening this guard all of these gears seem to be in real good shape other than knitting or cleaning cast iron gears there's the feed reverse when I was a teenager my dad had to laze in the basement a little South bed and a Logan pretty much just like this and we always call it the peg leg lathe like like a pirate because the back motor and all that drive is supported by what I call a peg leg in this case it's a piece of inch and a quarter pipe but some of them I have seen also had a cast iron leg there rather than than pipe but to move this lathe around is kind of a nuisance because of that extra leg there now this thing is mounted on casters not a real good idea I did not do it but it did help us load it at the auction site but there was no caster on the peg leg so I went down to the hardware store and I bought that little or I was going to buy that little caster deal there three casters I think they call it a furniture mover but it was it was $17 so then I went to Menards I didn't buy that I went to Menards and it was a $6 so that's where I got it but it allows me to move this around but the peg leg still doesn't follow real well if you know what I mean you're good do good Duga I already put a hanger there I like to have wrenches and and hammers and everything handy on every one of my lays dedicated tools since I own 100 Crescent wrenches here's the tag that is on the quick change gearbox model 8:20 and this way they get down to a real fine feed of just a little bit under mm point zero zero one eight so this is capable very fine feeds compared to the Atlas lathe I like that feature I do not necessarily like the way the back gears work with this plunger but I guess it's adequate and I still got to go through this lathe and clean it and lubricate it I have not oiled it yet those of you who follow my videos know that I have another Logan I've actually tool the 9 inch or 10 inch Montgomery Ward Logan lays and they don't they are not full-featured this one has a clutch along with the feed change lever with the three positions and then the half not very similar to the way South Bend lays are set up but the smaller Awards monkey Awards lathe do not have a clutch and everything is done through the half knot lever which is a way of making them cheaper but it's not all that desirable you will find that I have done another video on this lathe because when I got this home I realized it had the original tail stock oil dauber and there it is that's kind of unusual to find those most people don't even know what it is but look at my other video on making this dauber I set up the other Logan lathe with the turret attachments and I make up a bunch of those you might like that back to the tag again notice that it says screw cutting and turret Lee is Logan made an awful lot of turret lays and as I mentioned when I worked at I was born engineering they had dozens of turret lathes and they were all Logan's excels there was one nice South Bend but almost all Logan's and they were good ladies at but we ran millions of parts on them for a little troll trolling motor excuse me this is another view of the peg leg and notice that the Castor's raised this lathe about two inches I probably will take the cast off eventually when I locate this where I want because I think that this is slightly unsafe however I was able to load and load from a trailer with the aid of those casters but it was very topsy-turvy because of that extra weight over there on the drive side and and no casters yet on that peg leg you know there are hammer and chisel mechanics in every shop or even if it's a home shop and and at some point somebody took a cutting torch hello and cut a hole in there I supposed to clean the chips out and it's it's rougher than a cob and I don't like it but what are you going to do if you watch that other video you'll know that I bought this cart also $1 on casters made by lion with two nice drawers and someone in another video of your aptly named this the chuck wagon so that's what I've been calling them so this is my chuck wagon and I rather like it I can roll it around any place I want it to keep all the accessories for this lay then there's the four jaw Chuck back there and down on the bottom there's a couple more for draw chucks this you'll need a good cleaning and some of the other accessories I've got them the drawers smaller chunks so that's pretty awesome that drill chuck right here actually looks like it's never been used is in pretty good shape but there was no Chuck key and it has made in Czechoslovakia or was made in Czechoslovakia and I got a whole drawer full of the Jacobs and supreme chuck keys and nothing fits it I did find one other morpha tight Chuck key here that might it comes close but it's not really the correct key right here it might be close enough for me to tighten it but other than that looks like kind of a nice Chuck and how often do you see something from European countries not very often I don't have very much in the top drawer eeeh but in the second drawer here I got a large faceplate there's the smaller dog plate and if you saw the other video you know that I got gobs and gobs of extra jaws but almost none of them fit any of these Chuck's it's a shame this is quite a nice three jaw Chuck that came with this but no reverse jaws but it's made in Poland and there was no Chuck key so I've made a Chuck key but it's just made out of soft steel that took about an hour to make and when I get time or get some tool steel I'll make one out of a tool steel I think I'll do a video on that too and also how to heat treat it when I made it good and heavy and I locked I did that handle in there so at least I have a Chuck key to get started with on this lathe but that's a nice polish Chuck and I did clean it very lightly with 320 sandpaper because it had some surface rust on it back when I was in my prime and I worked at that shop with all the Loganlea is the boss wanted all these lays to have the belt tension released at the end of the day so he could just look over a whole shop and every lathe better have that guard up because that indicated that the belt was released the tension was released and so it was real easy compared to looking at South Bend lays and I remember my shop teacher in high school went around and he checked that lever down at knee height on our South Bend lay is to make sure that those belts were relaxed I was almost amazed at how smoothly and quietly that these Logan ladies hardly hear it and there was a reverse you very careful you don't hit the reverse and spin that Chuck off that's one bad thing about threaded Chuck spindles like that but I noticed here when I started to clean up the tool post and that was filthy dirty this tool holder here is a carbide tool holder so that's one I probably won't use much but notice it says Williams carbide I put that on there so I can easily identify it but the tool bit sticks straight in here on a carbide rather than coming at an angle on the traditional ones this would be a good one for me to use on that little road shaper I wish it was a straight one then it would be perfect for the road shaper the first thing I did on this Lane was to rewire I put a three prong grounded plug on the motor it was just two wire and also I did the same to the work light here and surprisingly when I plugged in the work light it worked even the lightbulb work that's kind of unusual and this was in a building where you can see the the birds had their way with this these are hot but surprisingly these old fixtures like this that are articulated and three spots are get that light right in there where you need it so if you don't burn yourself on it they are quite a useful fixture and this mounted directly to the bed back there or not to the bed to the chuck pan and I'm going to like that a little bit better than one of those courts against their courts that cost about a hundred dollars I take a short break from showing of that 10 inch late to showing you this I don't believe I ever put this on YouTube but I bought this little Logan actually it's a monkey Awards Logan late last winter and I don't even have it up and running yet I had ideas of taking it to a steam show and running it up with an old engine with my grandson showing people how to do a simple turning job because you know there's a lot of people that do not even know what a lathe is flat out this is very similar to the Logan Leigh that I have in the basement that I've done many videos with the tail stock is off in another spot here but I started to clean this up and never quite finished it I'll show you the drive here in a second but there's there's the guard and came with a three jaw Chuck and several other chucks as well and I bought this on Craigslist but notice that on the carriage it does not have a clutch it just has a 1/2 not lever so you do both the threading and the feeding with the half knot lever which really wears out the half knot by the way but it was a cheaper way to manufacture them and of course on this one there is no quick change gearbox the one in the basement has a quick change air box but I do have the the change gears for this but when I bought this other than what I told you about the steam show there were a bunch of other accessories with this including a milling attachment so I actually was buying it for the attachments at the time you know thinking boy I got a lot of extra chucks and different things that came with this though it was kind of a bonanza for me in the middle of the winter during the doldrums when I had nothing to do and I was quite excited but when I got at home it was so cold that I wasn't able to do a whole lot with it in this garage and I don't have room in the basement this is the motor and the drive for that monkey Awards lathe and whoever took this apart originally took the shaft off or mounts right here I believe so they wouldn't have to cut the belt and I'm glad of that but they also had to cut the wire here although that thing needs what rewire anyway look at that well like that I wonder if that meets the National Electrical Code do you suppose but anyway I was going to take that motor off if I took it to a steam show and just built this possibly even with a flat belt to run it from a Maytag engine or one of my little antique engines that's coming up soon I don't know if I'll get that done I got too many projects I believe I failed to mention that little Ward's lathe actually is a table model lay that's why I had it sitting on a dolly just so I can move it around here had a stored under my tractor's yet I have so little room left but you asked why did you get another lathe you must have five or six of them and I would have to answer yes I do have too many lays you don't need that many but it is nice to have two or three so you don't always have to change chucks you know you can leave a three jaw on one of them and a four jaw on the other and so on ly and leave them set up in the middle of a job and then go over and do a second operation on another lathe but the reason I got several these Logan ladies I would like to do a whole series on them like I've done series on the Atlas and I've done a series on the this South Bend now those are on my website but those are like a complete course one with 40 chapters and one with 50 it I would like to do something like that if I get time but I've just got so many other projects I'm working on and then making so many other videos there just isn't time to do all that and I also wanted to do a series on the shaper as well as the Bridgeport milling machine which I have started so as you can see it's a monumental job to do a 40 or 50 chapters and put it together as a course but that's what I would like to do in my spare time and I have no spare time even though I'm fully retired I go 8 or 10 hour everyday ok enough about that trivial stuff but I hope you enjoyed this little video on the Logan lathe and that you can expect to see a lot more of it but you cannot expect to see this thing painted up I used to spend a lot of time painting things and and cleaning them up in that and enjoyed that but it's something I guess I got out of my system and I really don't care to do it anymore so just a good cleaning will suffice on this and it will be in its work clothes for the remainder of its life but and speaking of life's I hope I can get some of these projects done in my lifetime but I got a friend that said mr. Peterson I got so many projects I'll never finish them in my lifetime but he said it's just a wonderful way to spend your life cuz you always got something to do always something to do we don't sit around and chairs oh I just read an article in last night's paper that said your easy chair will kill you and it went into great detail how just sitting around shortens your life so don't do that stay active with your machinery like I'm doing I know a lot of you guys do so with that little admonition this is tubal-cain saying so long for now

Channel: mrpete222

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Keywords: logan lathe, south bend lathe, clausing, boxford lathe, myford lathe, atlas lathe, hardinge lathe, colchester, sherline

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Length: 21min 33sec (1293 seconds)

Published: Thu Aug 14 2014