♪. LARRY: ALL RIGHT. 2024 ELECTION GETTING VERY CROWDED AT LEAST ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE BUT DONALD TRUMP STILL HOLDS A TOTAL COMMANDING LEAD. LET'S TALK ABOUT IT, MARK SIMONE, WOR RADIO SHOW HOST, AND MONICA CROWLEY, FORMER ASSISTANT TREASURY SECRETARY OF PUBLIC AFFAIRS, HOST OF MONICA CROWLEY PODCAST. JUST TALKED TO DONALD TRUMP ON THE PODCAST. BETTER THAN I RATED ANYWAY. PLAY A QUICK CLIP, MIKE PENCE DECLARING TODAY IN IOWA SOMEPLACE. HERE IS WHAT HE SAID. >> MY FORMER RUNNING MATE CONTINUES TO INSIST THAT I HAD TO THE RIGHT TO OVERTURN THE ELECTION. BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS WRONG THEN AND HE IS WRONG NOW. I WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE BY GOD'S GRACE I DID MY DUTY THAT DAY. LARRY: MONICA CROWLEY, IS THAT ENOUGH FOR MIKE PENCE? >> THAT IS NOT A WINNING ARGUMENT. WHAT ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES, EXEMPT FOR DONALD TRUMP DON'T SEEM TO GLAD OR MAYBE THEY DO AND THEY'RE DELIBERATELY TRYING TO MAKE THIS EFFORT IS TO BRING THE REPUBLICAN PARTY BACK TO PRE-2015, PRE-ADVENT OF DONALD TRUMP. DONALD TRUMP HAS SO SMASHED THE PARADIGM OF WHAT REPUBLICANS AND INDEPENDENT VOTERS WANT AND EXPECT IN A CANDIDATE, ALL OF THESE OTHER CANDIDATE ARE OPERATING IN A GOP THAT NO LONGER EXISTS. THE GOP AND THE REPUBLICAN BASE ARE AMERICA FIRST, THEY ARE MAGA ALL THE WAY, AND ALL OF THESE OTHER CANDIDATES, WHETHER THEY'RE GOOD PEOPLE, EFFECTIVE LEADERS, NONE OF THAT MATTERS. PENCE, DONALD TRUMP IS DONALD TRUMP AND THEN EVERYBODY ELSE. HE IS STILL THE 800-POUND GORILLA. LARRY: PENCE QUALIFIED. PUTTING THAT ASIDE I DIDN'T NECESSARILY DISAGREE WITH YOUR LAST PHRASE THERE, PUTTING THAT ASIDE, MIKE PENCE, CONSERVATIVE, SMART GUY, LOYAL TO TRUMP, HELPFUL IN THE ADMINISTRATION, THERE IS NO TWO-WAYS ABOUT IT. HE HAD ONE BIG DISAGREEMENT ABOUT THE SENATE VOTE TO RATIFY THE ELECTION. OKAY, HE IS EMPHASIZING THAT. WE DON'T HAVE TIME. HE IS GOOD ON THE ECONOMY. THE GUY IS BASICALLY A SUPPLY-SIDER. HE IS GOING FOR THE CHRISTIAN VOTE IN IOWA BUT MARK SIMONE, IT IS INTERESTING, I THINK PENCE HAS A LOT OF ASSETS WHAT I'M SAYING BUT HE CANNOT BREAK OUT. HE IS AT SIX, 7% IN EVERY POLL GOING BACK TWO YEARS. HE CANNOT BREAK OUT WHY, IS THAT? >> I, I HATE TO ATTACK MIKE PENCE HE IS A NICE MAN. I WATCHED THE WHOLE ANNOUNCEMENT. I THINK HE DOSED OFF TWICE. HE WILL NOT BOTHER ANYBODY. WILL 6 OR 7th PODIUM AWAY FROM TRUMP. HE IS NICE GUY. I WISH HIM WELL. LARRY: NICE GUYS FINISH LAST,? >> THAT IS WHERE THE PHRASE CAME FROM, MIKE PENCE. >> NEGATIVE THIS THE OG DONALD TRUMP, CARBON COPIES OF HIM, WHY WOULD THEY GO FOR A CARBON COPY WHEN THEY CAN GET THE ORIGINAL AMERICA FIRST FIGHTER? THEY WANT SOMEBODY WHO WILL GO TO WASHINGTON AND SMASH THE ENTIRE CORRUPT STATUS QUO. TRUMP DID IT IN HIS FIRST FOUR YEARS WITH ONE HAND TIED BEHIND HIS BACK WITH THE RUSSIA HOAX AND DEEP STATE COMING AFTER HIM. MY ARGUMENT FOR DONALD TRUMP, YOU BETTER GO FOR THE CANE DATE STARED DOWN THE DEEP STATE, KNOWS WHAT IS COMING AT HIM, WILLING TO FIGHT BANG. THE OTHER CANDIDATES ARE TALENTED BUT THEY HAVE NOT GONE UP AGAINST THE DEEP STATE. LARRY: THAT IS MY ARGUMENT ABOUT FIGHTINGNESS. TRUMP IS THE FIGHTER OF ALL FIGHTERS AND PEOPLE SEE THAT AND WHETHER, WHATEVER THE ISSUE IS, I THINK IT WILL BE A POCKETBOOK ELECTION, THAT IS WHAT ALL THE POLLS ARE SHOWING HE'S THE GUY. MARK SIMONE DO YOU THINK CHRIS CHRISTIE CAN GET 40,000 UNIQUE DONORS TO QUALIFY FOR THE DEBATE? >> CHRIS CHRISTIE I DON'T MINE ATTACKING. THIS GUY IS ON ON SOME PREPOSTEROUS KAMIKAZE MISSION. LET'S BE HONEST, APPEARANCEWISE HE IS NOT GREATEST CANDIDATE, THIS LOUD MOUTH, JACKIE GLEASON, RALPH KRAMDEN APPROACH WOMEN NOT WORK. I DON'T KNOW WHERE HE IS GOING WITH THIS. LARRY: NOT AN OUNCE OF SUBSTANCE IN HIS ANNOUNCEMENT. NOT A OUNCE OF POLICY STUB STANCE, REMARKABLE TO ME YOU. >> THINK HE IS TOUGH BUT REMEMBER THE BILLY BUSH TAPE WHEN THAT CAME OUT, HE DESERTED IMMEDIATELY. WHEN THERE WAS TROUBLE HE RAN FROM THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN. HE IS NOT TOUGH. HE LEFT OFFICE AS LEAST POPULAR GOVERNOR IN NEW JERSEY HISTORY, 15%, LOWEST EVER. TERRIBLE SCANDAL, "BRIDGEGATE." TWO OF HIS TOP PEOPLE WENT TO JAIL. HIS ATTORNEY ON THAT WAS CHRISTOPHER WRAY, BY THE WAY. LARRY: MY GOD. INCREDIBLE STORY. >> HE PUT HIM IN, HE RECOMMENDED HIM AS FBI DIRECTOR. HORRIBLE TRACK RECORD. LARRY: SO WHY IS DESANTIS DOWN BY 30 OR 40 POINTS, MONICA CROWLEY? GOOD GOVERNOR. >> EXCELLENT GOVERNOR. LARRY: CONSERVATIVE GUY, SMART GUY. >> ABSOLUTELY. LARRY: NO ECONOMIC AGENDA YET. MAYBE HE WILL GET ONE BUT WHY DO YOU THINK HE IS SO FAR DOWN? >> I MEAN THE MOST EFFECTIVE REPUBLICAN GOVERNOR WE'VE HAD IN DECADES, RON DESANTIS, BUT THERE IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING A VERY EFFECTIVE AND SUCCESSFUL GOVERNOR AND RUNNING FOR PRESIDENT. AND THEN THERE IS SOMETHING ELSE ENTIRELY TO RUN FOR PRESIDENT AGAINST DONALD TRUMP AND I THINK ALL OF THESE CANDIDATES, THEY FOUND OUT THE HARD WAY IN 2016, INCLUDING CHRIS CHRISTIE. THIS CURRENT BATCH WILL FIND OUT THE EXACT SAME THING. IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE ON THE NATIONAL STAGE. HE HAS HAD BUMPY ROLLOUT AND SO ON. MAYBE HE WILL FIND HIS SEA LEGS. MAYBE HE WILL MOUNT A MORE SUBSTANTIAL CHALLENGE TO DONALD TRUMP BUT RIGHT NOW DONALD TRUMP HAS SOMETHING NOBODY ELSE HAS WHICH IS AN EMOTIONAL BOND WITH THE VOTERS. THAT IS ABSOLUTELY UNBREAKABLE AND IT IS INSURMOUNTABLE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE. LARRY: HE HAS FILINGNESS, I'M TELLING YOU. IT'S POCKETBOOK ELECTION. WE LOOKED AT ANOTHER POLL ON THIS, TRUMP IS THE BEST FIGHTER. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. HE MAY BE A BARE KNUCKLE FIGHTER. EVERYONE WANTS A BARE KNUCKLE FIGHTER. I HAVE TO GET OUT OF THIS SEGMENT. I LOVE BOTH OF YOU. IT IS INTERESTING TO ME. PENCE HAS THE GOOD SUPPLY SIDE ECONOMIC MES
