THIS is the Cheapest 8-Port 10Gbase-T 10GbE Switch

these eight Port 10 gigabit switches are exactly what you've been asking for they are managed one of them has Poe and they are dirt cheap in fact they're so cheap that they actually compete with two and a half gig ethernets which is on price these are definitely a super fun find so let's get to it hey guys this is Patrick from sth and these are the hassivo S 1100w switches now when we've done Switch reviews in the past I've read a ton of comments and people are always asking like hey you know you're doing these two and a half gig ethernet switch reviews but I really want is 10g base T switches and cheap ones at that because they're so expensive and you know what I have to agree with you guys for far too long 10g base T has just cost way too much we looked right before doing this video and it was somewhere between like 360 and maybe 610 dollars for an eight Port 10 gigabit Ethernet switch that's insane and not only that but you always say hey instead of an unmanaged switch you want a manage switch and I get it these are actually managed as well and whenever we do a non-poe switch everybody always says well sure but I wish that this had a Poe option as well because then it would be perfect if you just had that and for that the bottom one here actually is a Peewee switch with some caveats but it only costs something like 30 35 dollars more so for full disclosure one of these units was sent one of them we purchased thanks to our wonderful sdh YouTube members if you want to help us out so you can buy cool units like this you can always join down below it's super appreciate if you can help now normally this is where we go when we look at the hardware but you know these are pretty easy switches to go through the hardware so what I want to do first is actually talk about the big thing which is the pricing so let's go dig into that a little bit foreign okay so taking a look at this top switch it's an 8 Port 10g base T manage switch and if we look on AliExpress as we're recording this video it's 245 dollars and this one is called the S 1100 W8 x g t s e now there's another one which is the s1100wp P I think is for Poe and that one is what we have here this is a Poe plus switch and it is 278 dollars in the time we're recording this video now despite the fact that these are relatively inexpensive I will say that sometimes depending on where you are the shipping can be quite expensive like 75 or something like that but even with that these things are still the cheapest a port 10g base t-switches that we can find so tp-link has an unmanaged option that's about 360 dollars but that doesn't have management and certainly doesn't have Poe we found a trendnet unmanaged unit for 550 but that seems a lot more expensive Netgear has its own 10gbase ta Port switch which I think is about 450 also unmanaged and heck we even found one from Buffalo which was 610 as well so just for these switches we're talking like 360 to 610 dollars we frankly couldn't find it much comparable to this a poor Poe managed switch below now the reason that I went into that level of detail on pricing is really just because I want to make sure that everybody has that frame of reference that these things are the cheapest 10g base T8 Port switches you can find that are managed and if there's nothing else that we could find that was even close with that let's get to the hardware foreign switches you're gonna see that they are relatively similar we have eight 10g base T ports on both of them and there are little reset buttons because these are managed switches so there are little indented reset buttons as well and aside from the p in the model name the other way that you can tell which one's the poe switch is that underneath the switch ports you'll see that there's a little LED and that little LED lights up if you have a Poe device plugged in I'll also just point out real quick that these ports run at 10 100 one gig two and a half gig five gig and also 10 G bass t-speeds there are some other switches on the market that don't work at those multi-gig speeds which are like two and a half gig and five gig they only work at like one in 10 gig and so this is kind of nice that it spans that range of different speeds now the top of these units is pretty much exactly the same right I mean they're just kind of flat top the bottom the bottom is uh is flat also we have a little rubber feet on them so we can actually have them on set here and they don't make too much noise but where things start to get a little bit different is on the sides and I'm just going to kind of rotate these over here and and hopefully you'll see these as well the poe version actually has the holes to put I guess rack mount ears the non-poe version doesn't have that but I don't think we got rackman ears anyway so I guess you could make your own or something okay so look at the back of the units uh you're gonna see that these things are definitely not fanless you're gonna see two sets of fan vents on each of these and so you have like two on one side of the power switch and then two on the other side of the power switch and the one thing to note though is that we have all four fans populated on the poe version we have only two fans populated on the non-pily version we also have our clicky little power button that you can hit and there's a grounding point and then the other big feature I think always over here and that's really the label the label tells you that number one you have a 192.168.0.1ip address for the default management and you also have a default login of admin admin we're going to show you the management interface in a little bit but this is where you find that info Nation the other important thing though is that we weren't able to find a Peewee rating for the entire Poe switch however on the poe version you'll see that we have a 3.6 amp input and I think that's really just make sure that you can go and push the full Poe power on the switch these are Poe plus ports which means that they're up to like 25.5 watts and 25.5 Watts times 8 ports gives you just over 200 watts of power for Poe plus you have the switch itself which actually sips power and so even if everything works you're probably not going to pull over 240 Watts from this switch anyway so getting inside these switches let's start with the non-pue version first the first thing that you're going to see is that when you look inside there are three big like heat sinks that are covering like three big chips and so what we did of course was we popped the heat sinks just so we can see how this whole thing works and what we found was a main switch ship which is the real Tech RTL 9303 that RTL 9303 is a layer 3 managed 10g base T port and it has a management processor built in it's a pretty weak 800 megahertz mips processor but it's enough to run a switch like this the other two chips are real Tech RTL 8264s and I think those are really the files for the 10g base T each of them I think handles four ports now overall this is a pretty simple switch but it is nice that at least we do have an internal power supply although we don't necessarily know if it's a good power supply or not the other thing that you have in there is that you have two fans and if you really wanted there are mounting points for two more fans but you're probably gonna have to figure out how to make that work now the poe one is extremely similar there are only a couple of differences the first one of course on the fans we have twice as many fans because we have four fans versus two the power supply as you would imagine is much larger because we need to have the power supply not only for the switch but we also need the power supply for all of the poe devices and then the last thing that you're going to see is that there's a giant Poe board and then Poe board is what helps provide Poe onto all of these switch ports it is extremely common in the industry that if you're going to have a Pue switch and a non-poe switch you use the same baseboard and then you have the poe switch have a little daughter board that handles all the poe functionality now let's talk about the power consumption at least the base power consumption before Poe or anything like that when we plugged these switches in we saw the exact same idle power consumption even though we have different power supplies and there's Pewee version all that kind of stuff they were the same at 10.8 Watts that idle with nothing plugged in now we wanted to get the incremental purport power consumption so we just got plugged in one port we lit it up and we saw that 10.8 go up to 12.2 on the non-poe one on the poe one we didn't have as much of an impact and not even close we only went from 10.8 to 11.2 Watts which was wild and we're literally using the exact same cable exact same endpoint to go test these things maybe the bigger Poe power supply is running at a more efficient level I don't know exactly why that is now the next question I know a lot of folks are going to have is the noise and frankly these switches are relatively quiet they do have fans and those fans do spin up if they get too hot but on the other hand um like most of the time we really don't hear these things I'm gonna turn this off and on and I'm just gonna let you listen to it but that's only lasts for a couple of seconds now the poe version is pretty similar we have it booted and it's sitting right here and uh and it's not making any real noise now the one thing that you definitely notice with this switch that you don't notice with the non-pue version is that there's definitely some coil wine and I'm going to hold this up and hopefully Alex is going to be able to get it so you can hear this now you have to be pretty close like maybe this closer so to be able to hear it but I can definitely hear this thing and Brian heard it as well and while we have the Pue version already booted up let me just kind of show you this real quick if you look at like our little Fluke meter um maybe you guys can see us but the first Port does not have Pee Wee we just can't power any devices from it and we double checked with a little Fluke meter and we couldn't find Poe on it all the other ports showed up as class 4 Poe devices which means they have 25.5 watts of capacity now in terms of performance we tested these with a variety of 10g Base T devices because frankly I was a little bit nervous that like you know we're gonna get something and then it wasn't going to negotiate 10 gigabit Ethernet speeds and I was gonna be like oh man that's some total bummer when you find out later but we managed to try a number of Windows and Linux Intel based 10gbase tnx and it worked and then on the Marvel a quantra side which is really popular for things like desktops and workstations and stuff like that we found that worked on Windows Linux and then also even our wonderful Little Mac Studio now one of the other things is just by testing all this range of stuff like if you're an Apple user you're not going to want to go and go turn on a switch have to configure it and get it to work just to go connect to like a Nas or something like that we hooked up our Asus store Nas to this and it worked no problem and we also tried it with the Mac Studio and the Mac Mini with the M2 Pro and 10gbase T and we just set it up to that little Asus store NASA and it worked no problem right out of the box it was super easy to get set up so overall on the performance side I mean definitely meets expectations maybe exceeds expect locations on this price of switch foreign grabs just kind of running through the management interface of the poe version there is one little bit that's different when you have the poe version because of course this thing tells you like hey here's what your Poe ports are using and all that kind of stuff and so that's the big difference between the two but otherwise they're pretty similar management interfaces and in the management interface you can see things like you can set up vlans link aggregations you can see you know Port statistics there are things like spanning tree and there's just a ton of different options in here you can also do things like set up different users you can set up your management VLAN to a different VLAN because of course you probably want to go do that this is nowhere near as full featured as if you got like a layer three like pretty high-end switch based on like a broadcom tried in or something like that but on the other hand there is quite a bit here that I would say we're probably in that like smart managed range it's not like maybe a fully managed I would say it's like equivalent to what other vendors would sell as like a smart managed switch now we can't test everything because there's just too much here but one thing that you're going to see at the very end of this is that when we did a cable test and we said like hey let's go do a little cable test which is usually a pretty simple thing for these switches to do it just kind of hung and just spun so I would say that the firmware is definitely not perfect on these and of course passivo is not like the biggest vendor out there so um you know that is always a challenge now the last thing I want to point out not only is just the fact that you're not gonna see any regulatory markings on these at all you're not gonna see us ones you're not going to see EU ones I don't even think you have ones for China or anything like that in here I mean they're really not a lot of regulatory markings but I guess that's just uh you know how these things are sold so it's a little bit of a roll the dice type of thing again if I had like critical infrastructure or bank or anything like that I would sure as heck not use something like this but on the other hand if you have a home lab or like a little business or just somewhere out in the field that you just want to go run this thing then um you know by all means go and do it just understand that these things do not have regulatory marking safety markings any of that kind of stuff that's probably why they're also a lot less expensive now with all the these videos I like to have a key Lessons Learned and I think that this one is really obvious these switches for the price which is you know 245 to 278 dollars plus maybe 75 or so shipping or depending out where you are in the world it could be a little bit more a little bit less whatever but frankly there are no switches that cost even twice as much of this that we could find that are managed have Poe like all that kind of stuff you just can't get anything even close to this so while there are things that are a bummer like no Regulatory and compliance markings like the simple things in the firmware like being able to do that cable tests that don't work and you don't really know exactly what the next firmware upgrade is going to be or anything like that and also you're not gonna get like a lifetime warranty with these or any any of those kind of things but even with all that I think that these things are probably the best 10g base T switches and again the number one thing that I take away from these things is just come on guys where is the company that's going to take this type of design do the steps to go and do the Regulatory Compliance all that kind of stuff and actually sell these things at a d decent price there's nothing under 700 that has Poe is a managed eight Port 10g base t-switch that we can find so where the heck is this it seems like if these can be sold at a profit at 278 dollars and there's nothing in the market even at 700 so it has this feature set then I just kind of feel like there has to be someone in there that can step up like Netgear or someone like what the heck why can't you do this and if that's something you'd like to see definitely go put it down in the comments now again these things are going to be overkill for a lot of folks who may only need one or two 10 gig ports and maybe some other two and a half gig ports we just did a two and a half gig ethernet ultimate guide and we've been maintaining even a larger list on the stage main site we'll link those in the description so you can find them and hey if you want to tell companies to make something like this why don't you put that in the comments if you did like this well why don't you also share this video with your friends I'm sure they would like this too if you did like this video well why don't you give it a like click subscribe and turn on the notifications so you can see whenever we come out with great new videos as always thanks for watching have an awesome day

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Length: 14min 52sec (892 seconds)

Published: Wed Jul 12 2023