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so we always get caught up in PCI Express Lanes and speed and bandwidth and the idea of our graphics card saturating all of that but I've talked about for years now that data and data storage that is where we can saturate our pcie lanes now we talked about pcie gen 3 drives uh nvme drives which have a 3 500 megabyte like read speed Gen 4 drives that have a 7 000 megabytes per we're talking seven gigabytes per second read speed well these bad boys just arrived these are the new crucial t700 Pro Series they're a Gen 5 Drive and yeah you're reading that right 12 400 megabytes per second the too long didn't watch if you're still on a SATA SSD that is limited to 540 megabytes per second to say to six it's time to upgrade the Kraken series aios from NZXT come in many shapes and sizes to fit your CPU needs the Kraken Elite Series RGB coolers feature a 2.36 inch 640 by 640 customizable LCD screen showing system info or custom images and gifs for a custom look F-series RGB fans and a single breakout cable for simplified installation if low key is more your thing the Kraken Elite Series also comes in a Black non-rgb Edition while retaining the amazing pump screen to see the full lineup of new Kraken Elite and non-league coolers from NZXT follow the link in the description below so we're huge fans of crucial obviously crucial as Micron Micron is the supplier for so many of the nand when it comes to storage drives it's unfortunate too that you have to cover them up they're so pretty like and what I mean by cover them up they need to be cooled I mean obviously with this kind of read write speed they need to be cool but look at this this is so the sticker is actually a copper plate I don't know if you can tell but this is a metal copper plate which is designed to give you proper transfer from the nand and the controller through the sticker into your heatsink or whatever cover you're using on your motherboard is so I just want to point that out like people often will rip these off no these are these are actually thermal transfer they're designed to transfer temperature this is a two terabyte version right here so it's actually got some it's got a couple chips on the back so it is double-sided which is surprising because two terabytes typically will fit on one side but this one is double sided we even have a four terabyte model right here and what I love about this is they're advertising the four terabyte still gets you the 12 400. typically the larger the drive um sometimes it's slower now obviously the as the drive fills up it's going to slow down and that's only because of trading cash so there is a cash named on the drive directly that the SSD can access to you know for more commonly used files that'll store it in the cache and then you have cash access which is way faster than going to the nand itself what the heck just made noise anyway that's I digress um so the larger the drive obviously it can slow down the Fuller it gets actually any Drive the Fuller it gets the more it slows down simply because of the fact that it has to constantly swap to the cache the other one here so the t700 also is available with a heat sink now as you can see this one doesn't have a heat sink or anything with it this is going to be useful if you have a system for whatever reason doesn't have like a cover so right now I have two of these drives installed underneath the graphics card right here and this has this big piece of metal is actually oh that's warm I will be installing hardware monitor to check the drive speed that is very warm and they are not being read write right now they are just on so that's the other thing I want to talk about is as the speed increases so does the temperature so if you don't have a heat sink on it you're going to throttle the drive pretty quickly I can't think of a Gen 5 PCI motherboard that won't have some sort of a built-in heatsink but look at the beefiness of this guy I can't even test it if I wanted to without this like with this because it'll interfere with my graphics card and this is a 70 7950x3d and I'm using this specifically because Lanes the amount of lanes available to the CPU and the PCI Express matter and we all know AMD has way more PCI Express Lanes than Intel does so I wanted to test this but I can't use their SSD because it won't fit it'll interfere with the graphics card that's unfortunate so I have two of the two terabyte drives installed as you can see um and they're not doing anything they're just sitting here in the system oh no these are the two new drives right here idling at 55.55 and then the system Drive is at 44. so clearly they're warmer but I wonder if that's because I have two drives sharing that heatsink they're both touching it so it's just a little bit more saturation now we've done videos before we've tested SSD cooling we found that typically the controller doesn't really start to slow down until they exceed like 70c um I don't temperature drives are very temperature sensitive now obviously we have a graphics card right on top of it that can't be helping the situation so one of the things I'm going to try as we test this too is I'm gonna blow a fan at it just plug a fan in plug it in so we have some airflow there and see what happens so let's go ahead and just kind of test transfer speed from a Gen 4 drive so my system Drive in here is also a crucial drive it's a Gen 4 which means we're looking at 7 000 megabytes per second Max read speed but the write speed is always slower than the read speed the write speed on this is gonna be more like 6 000 megabytes per second maybe even as low as 5400 megabytes per second so I'm going to copy this folder right here which is 34.3 gigabytes worth of J's two cents nonsense it's just it just export videos as you can see they're right there so I'm going to copy this right over to that drive okay so as you can see we are copying right now at two gigabytes a second now part of this is going to be limited by the Gen 4 drive so what I'm also going to do after we move do this is I'm going to move that file from one Gen 5 to another Gen 5 to compare the speeds but we're done already that's that's pretty fast our Drive did hit 60c as you can see it went from 55 to 60. we're at 66 on the right Drive now we're at 66 on both it's kind of a real scenario if we were just moving files around so around 68c now on both I want to point out we're in a fairly cool room here now one of the things I'm going to do is I'm going to run crystal diskmark in a moment see uh where the temperature caps off how does this feel now holy cow that's like touching the GPU die that's very hot fail I just want you to touch that SSD cover oh wow hi hello oh dude anyway here after doing all those tests is what the drive covers look like it's gonna adjust there we go look at that the cover itself is 7 DC so this is how the performance was for read write and the first thing this indicated to me is like these are Gen 4 speeds and then I looked into the manual for our x670e Tai Chi and realized they have one blazing m.2 gen 5x4 Drive and then two hyper m.2 gen 4x4 drives or slots so that means my Gen 4 Drive which is my OS Drive is sitting in the Gen 5. so what I need to do right now is I need to switch the drive I need to power down the system put the drive up here in the Blazing drive and put my OS down to one of the Gen 4 drives switch my boot Drive come back in do this test again all right so a couple things one I suspect that test I ran a second ago was actually on the main system Drive which is a Gen 4 drive but what I also did was I swapped the um so this motherboard has already said this right I already said the Blazing stuff yeah okay okay so I've taken the Gen 5 drive and put it up in the Gen 5 blazing spot the temperatures actually improved a little bit um they drop down to a Max of 72 but as you can see right now with Crystal disk Mark going right now 12 339 on the read and that's obviously on the large files and then as the files get smaller it slows down because it's having to seek and find those files right now in the right speeds we'll see what the realistic right is I'm curious about that because this is just seven what 60 megabytes slower than advertise that's all within margin of error but I want to know what the read speed is going to be on the Gen 5. and just a little disappointed that there's only one Gen 5 slot in this particular motherboard so I think you really need to pay attention to the specs of your motherboard because some motherboards if you have a fast drive and a slow drive in there sometimes if the m.2s are only going through the chipset and you don't have a single drive also going direct to CPU which is what this board has then what you'll find is holy cow it wrote at 11 800. okay that's pretty nuts right there anyway what I was saying is sometimes if the drives all have to go through the chipset then what you'll find is that it will slow down everything to the slowest uh gen drive so if it's a Gen 4 Gen 4 speeds even for Gen 5 drive so pay attention to your motherboard arrangements and layouts also too if you don't have a latest gen Gen 5 motherboard there's no point in buying a Gen 5 drive but what I want to do too is oh yeah it's hitting 77c right now so we're hitting the same temp even though it's up here with only one drive now underneath that cover I still have to run the same test with the fans going but even at this speed oh there's 80. it finally hit 80. but even at this speed it's still going pretty fast and uh it's just about finishing up the test there we go so as you can see right there sequential 12 339 read with 118 20 rights um obviously the file size is as they get smaller it slows down but this is insane like it is absolutely insane how fast this drive is now it did cap out at ADC and as soon as the test was done it cooled back down to 60 it was a 61 it's a 60. I want to plop a fan on here real quick I don't think we think we're going to see any speed Improvement by slowing it down the question is going to be is how long are you loading the drive now if the drive starts to get too hot it will start to throttle that is just the way it works so let me throw a fan on there real quick and see if it improves at all I doubt it because we're getting the advertised speeds all right so I have my fan now pointing down at that cover granted the heatsink would probably be best here but I'm just pointing at that cover now to see if some airflow over again I can touch it the drive is currently 47c you can see we haven't reset the system or anything I'm now going to rerun this test right here I want to see what the initial temperature spike is really look at the activity now 99.6 percent it's 96 remember the previous test it was down to like the 60 70 percent before when it was on Gen 4 because that shows the controller for Gen 4 clearly just wasn't able to push the drive to its Max now it can now we're at 60c whereas last time it pushed it to 70 like nearly immediately so as you can see airflow clearly matters on the drive 55c we're never gaining any speed but we're just gaining better I think in my opinion Drive Health temperatures you know degradation attempts can be a thing but obviously it's designed to operate within a certain range of temperature anyway getting a first time taking a look at a Gen 5 Drive this is like this just sucks because this makes me now want to update the drives in my rig at home unless I'm going to clone my drive and then go through all pulling out all the water loop and stuff so I could switch the drives out now I have fomo a fear of missing out on speed I'm not going to use anyway I just want to know I have it there this is what elitism looks like guys thanks for watching foreign

Channel: JayzTwoCents

Views: 247,100

Keywords: ssd, ssd speeds, nvme speeds, gen 5 ssd, gen 5 nvme, ge5 nvme speeds, crucial, t700, t700 nvme

Id: 70A5JVeXSC8

Length: 12min 7sec (727 seconds)

Published: Sun Sep 17 2023