THE TRUTH: PRO V1 Refurbished Balls (£20) Vs PRO V1 Balls (£42)

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Really haven’t been a fan of his “test” videos lately, and they come across as a bit irresponsible in terms of his platform as an expert. The “sandblast and repaint” refurbishment does not produce a quality product, and even though he opened a set of 2017 Pro Vs, there’s not guarantee every ball was, and even then, not every recycling company has the same standards.

I had a similar issue when he did the “does shaft really matter?” Test and came to an answer of “Not really” when he hit 1 driver with just different flexes in the same shaft.

I feel like he should know all of these things, but decided to make lowest common denominator content and confirm misconceptions.

👍︎︎ 41 👤︎︎ u/mako1355 📅︎︎ May 29 2019 🗫︎ replies

I watched this and I have some questions on why Rick did this review the way he did. Doing an on course review like this has its merits, but he spent an awful lot of time going over subjective things like sound and feel (which is good info, though not the most useful). I would really have liked to have seen some GCQuad data along with this on-course review and am not sure why he didn't do that. I don't really see the point in doing a "longest drive" on course where you A) aren't measuring strike and B) aren't accounting for bounce and roll. Some meaningful data on launch and spin and how they differ on wedges, irons and driver is important. Maybe not shot-to-shot, but certainly worth knowing if there are any trends that may matter over time.

The durability is a very big point and I don't think he hit it home enough. Most of what you're paying for in a ProV1 is the cover and how it reacts with the other layers. The reason Tour balls are more costly is mostly that the urethane covers are far more expensive to make than a surlyn/ionomer cover (obviously marketing too but they are more expensive to make). It's a big deal that that isn't the same cover from the factory and their quality control isn't the same as Titleist's.

He also cut 3 of them open and I think that was just luck of the draw. I don't think you can assume that they were all the 2017 version (with the 2019 markings). It's really luck of the draw and you don't know from ball to ball what version it is (or even if it's a V or an X) and that can be a big issue for some people. To be honest, if you're thinking "well I can't really tell the difference at my skill level anyway I may as well save some money" then I'd say go with Cut or Vice or Snell for a few bucks more and at least get some consistency in the product, more durability, and at least know what you're getting.

👍︎︎ 13 👤︎︎ u/GreenWaveGolfer 📅︎︎ May 29 2019 🗫︎ replies

James Robinson did a video yesterday as well but God knows what he was using, didn't even look like a proper golf ball.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3FH_Z1n_ts

👍︎︎ 2 👤︎︎ u/Springveldt 📅︎︎ May 30 2019 🗫︎ replies

Rick's testing and logic is on a similar level to Taylormade marketing.

It appeals to a certain type of person.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/[deleted] 📅︎︎ May 30 2019 🗫︎ replies

The TXG guys are miles past anyone else in the serious golf YouTube sphere.

👍︎︎ 1 👤︎︎ u/DustlnTheWind 📅︎︎ May 30 2019 🗫︎ replies
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so we all know tight leash probably ones are a great ball but you pay a lot of money for these here in the UK there are at forty pound a dozen in the US about $50 a dozen what about these bad boys these are refurbished pro-v ones these cost me half of the price they were 20 pounds online I'm gonna test them miss if they're any good because every time I've seen a refurbished golf ball out in the golf course I got scared I throw it away because I think it cannot be good it can't be the right quality apparently this says they are superior quality double-a grade golf balls I'm gonna tell you the truth today I'm gonna take them on the course and test them against the Proby wall and see if they're any good first off the box is shocking it's quite basic it's got this kind of plastic you cellophane on and apparently these are refurbished to double grade golf balls and satisfaction is guaranteed a lot is a bold statement let's open them up and see what they actually look like now my on I'm a big concern about refurbish ones they always look a little bit scruffy I mean I must admit straight out the box they are pearly white most of them in number twos there's a couple number ones in there now apparently they some blast them down repaint them and then even read text it if you look super closely you can just can't tell it's not perfect quality for you stop that word refurbished up and truffle it Lords Palace like a normal probably one maybe one that's been played a few times but that's it let's team up let's play some golf I think at one point we definitely have to cut them open to see if the insides are still the same as a normal throw V but I'm gonna go with Titus one refurbish probably one off the first hole I play some golf right refurbished golf ball let's tee up on the first hole by the way guys if you need too much our welcome i'm rick shields make sure you hit that subscribe and if you already subscribed hit the bell icon so you notified as soon as I release the video also what golf ball do you currently play I'd love to hear your thoughts leave your comment down below right referre pro-v Wang surely he can't be as good as a real thing let's find out that was a pretty horrendous t-shirt but I think that was more me than the ball the good thing I don't feel as bothered about losing one of these pro-v roms because it's half the price either way let's play a few more holes it's gonna fire that one first I think it's safe still [Music] okay so that is three holes played with the refurbished pro v1 it's gotta be sad I felt it felt good then you know I shot one over and that was down to a bad chip and putt on the last hole I didn't see any performance issues I just not noticed two slightly clicking noise when I hit it sitting on the full of shots so my camera man's come up with a test these put four golf balls out some are refurbished I'm a real pro V ones or new Pro V ones and I've got to guess which is which I've got a little par three down the hill I'm gonna be him pitching wedges let's see if I can identify the refurb compared to the real pro fees okay so four balls have been laid out from here appearance-wise I can't tell which is which which is the real of new ones or which one the refurbished ones are let's hit them see if I can feel the difference little pitching wedge on this par 3 okay instantly I felt real yeah that felt good that one okay Oh see now instantly that felt harder and I should rock it well it was a good shot in fairness and I'm gonna say that was refurbished just a little bit hard to feel that was all okay next one I've gotta say harder again I've got to say refurbed god this is good so far in fairness though the two reefer drums have hit their shots okay last one oh it's another good shot I'm gonna say on that one again it had the same feeling a shot number two and three I think that one again was refurbed four out of four now interestingly the three shots the refurb shots are here they just have that slightly harder feel to it almost like clicky ER I think the sound plays a big part in the feel of this but the three shots I hit with the refurbished ones were much better shots and got a pass that test yes so one thing I'm always intrigued about with refurbished golf balls is how similar are they to each other and are they actually you know from the same generation Pro v1 lineup so this is a 2019 Pro we want I'm going to chop this up don't try this at home and then chop up three of the refurbish wants to see how similar they actually look so actually 2019 Pro v1 you got your outer layer and your inner layer and then let's go first of the refurbished let's see it might be a slightly different color combination because it might have been one from an older year which it looks like it is yeah I mean that that's pro v1 you know 2017 model from the lots of things let's go for number two as long as it looks the same same as refurbished number one and final one hopeful this looks the same again now I'll pull an image up I have got a pro v1 from 2017 which are chopped up and I'm pretty sure it looks just like that so I've just got a double check on the actual pro v1 Pro v1x review I did in 2017 and I'm very confident that that is the inside of a 2017 Pro v1 golf ball looks identical so the pro v1 is known for its durability that's why some people think it's worth the value I'm gonna hit ten shots out this bunker and see how it performs and also hit ten with the refurbished can the durability of this cover keep up with the pro v1 [Music] oh I don't know so much spit on it okay so that is ten done with each summer inspector those two golf balls that's some good practice that okay so that is the genuine Pro V and that is the refurbish once again the the quick wipe and then have an inspection from first glance one of them's definitely suffered the battle a little bit more so probably one from Titleist it has got scuff marks there's a couple around not too deep I would give that a rating as eight out of ten a little bit of a wipe a little bit of a clean but they are prophets cough mark from impact with wedge and sand now the refurbished ball wow look at this damage damage the damage that and that's not more that's not dirt that is scratching look at that that is rating wise five out of ten maybe even a four out of ten that has been out for ten shots out of the bunker that is badly damaged and that's the one thing that I would have huge concerns about and this is maybe where this click eNOS is coming from this cover that is a different cover to what you get on a pro v1 it's not as durable and it definitely has a slightly click you feel all right ultimate test probably one this is refurbished longest drives I'm gonna hit three with each I'm going to alternate between the two and see how they perform on distance now closer look when you really do look but you've got to get close you can definitely just tell that the refurbish font is a little bit thicker but you have to be looking close a lot absolutely nothing [Music] those knock [Music] Wow right I'm not gonna lie I've ripped all six of those let's get down there and find out our father-god okay so six balls can be seen it's to here that the shortest I've got to be honest I felt like I hit them all pretty well this one's on the left this is the shortest in line with that one on the fairway so this is genuine pro v1 let's grab look what the shortest one is as well okay so this one is the refurbished so the two worst hits were in line with each other one was genuine one was refurbished there's four more down here I'm intrigued to see which is the longest so third shortest is this one right in the middle of the fairway and that is it's a genuine real Pro v1 so so far two of the three shortest have been real prob'ly waffles now these two a neck-and-neck one in the fairway one in the roof one in the fairway was refurbished one in the roof this is the big one now this was real Pro v1 so that means the longest shot and not only longest add two of the three longest shots just double check this absolutely in the middle of the fairway bombed this was shot number one I think I hear absolutely bombed was the refurbished distance-wise refurbished stacks up this is a very very surprising test it's completely shocked me okay this is the truth pro-v one refurbished is really good I took him out on the golf course and it performed just as good as a brand new pro-v one out of the box and I did not expect to say that one bit off the tee matched in distance with iron shots it's a thon just as good with wedge shots it had the same level of spin the only time I could see a difference was on those clicky shots I felt like with the refurbished ball it definitely had a clicking noise to it which gave it that slightly harder feel off the face but that is it and that might just be down to that cover I'm talking about the cover as well the refurbished ball is not as durable but for the price a lot of golfers out there you probably be losing it before it started to run out of cover I'm totally shocked I am I didn't expect the refurbished golf ball to do just as good and when I cut it in half and we could identify that it is a pro v1 from the inside which is something again I didn't expect it's done well it's done really well the truth is the refurbished golf ball is seems to be a pro v1 with just a new lick of paint and that paint doesn't last great and it's a bit quicker but part from that I don't think many people would be able to identify guys thanks for watching hope you enjoyed the video if you did smash that like make sure if you subscribed hit the bielski notified for every new video we'll see you next time of the truth of the pro v1 refurbished [Music]
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Published: Wed May 29 2019
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