The Taliban Was Never Going to Share Power

there's little due process in these sharia courts disputes here are settled by mobile justice and in some cases taliban commanders who have the autonomy to carry out punishments how they see fit what you're seeing right now is pretty much a taliban court you have in front of me is a local taliban commander talking to somebody who's been accused of stealing surrounded by a group of taliban fighters the accused is forced to give a deposition to camera about whether he stole sheep from a local herder as well as other crimes he's been sitting in taliban jail since his arrest and has no representation at this hearing in terms of the cases that you've dealt with today what are the potential punishments that they could be served in the end of the day the man that was sat in front of you that was accused of stealing potentially at the end of the court case he might have his handcuff human rights organizations would look at this scene and see men who don't have representatives who don't have anybody putting forward their case who have people who don't necessarily have the judicial or legal experience to be able to be handing out punishments deciding the fate of an individual and they would say that that isn't justice what would you say to them is so is this the justice system that you would like to see implemented in kabul and across afghanistan would you consider bringing back stoning if you were to be in government is that something that you would do for adultery action [Music] joins me now from turkey hin do you spend some time with the taliban what was that like and what did you learn about what afghanistan might be underneath them yeah it was quite surreal we spent around five days and two nights with the taliban and what was really clear was just how powerful they were and that despite what was coming out of kabul or washington the taliban had absolutely no intention to take part in intra-afghan talks which would lead to them integrating into what was the current political system in kabul in terms of their strength they have a whole new generation of fighters some of them weren't even bored when the war began they were all armed and they also showed us how to make their weapon of choice which was ieds and in terms of the older fighters they had an incredible knowledge of the region and the terrain and regardless of what capabilities you had as an army the united states and their allies or even the afghan government would find it and they did find it impossible to battle against something like that in terms of the future and what that holds for afghanistan we also spoke and spent some time with the afghan government around seven months ago and we spoke to the national security adviser handle emoji in a conversation when we were speaking about potential intra-afghan talks and where they were going because at that point they were failing quite significantly he told me that he still believed that they could convince the taliban to take part in a democratic system or in their current political system we think that democracy is the best way or the best system because in that the taliban can exist do you really believe that the taliban would ever support a democracy do you honestly believe that i think we can convince them and it was clear even back then that that was a complete fantasy because every time we would speak to the taliban every time we'd have a conversation we'd put to them what the government had said to us and we would ask them do you have any intention in partaking in these intra-afghan talks and integrating into the political system and their answer would be repeatedly no their intention has always been to rule afghanistan and for afghanistan to adhere to their very specific interpretation of islamic law well thank you hint for your reporting and we'll talk again i'm sure that's hindasan who's in turkey

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Length: 5min 51sec (351 seconds)

Published: Tue Aug 17 2021

Reddit Comments

[u/yalyublyumenya]

I'd like to be open-minded, but surely cutting off someone's hand is a bit extreme. I know it could seem a bit hypocritical coming from someone in a country with the death penalty, but what does Islam say about the possibility of reform? Moreover, in this particular case, the confession seems coerced. He wasn't allowed to argue his innocence. The court isn't omniscient-- they don't know what happened. Surely God does. If the court comes to the wrong conclusion, and they butcher this man, then aren't they now violating God's law? Even if a society agrees on these principles, shouldn't they also take care to make sure that they are punishing the person who committed the crime, and not the person who might have committed the crime? Otherwise, it would seem that they are sinning. Who gets to cut their hand off? I suppose it wouldn't matter if the judge's hand were cut off in that case though. It's not like you can sew his hand on to the wrongfully convicted. It just seems short-sighted at best, and prime for corrupt, opportunistic behavior by self-righteous sinners at worst. Maybe they'll burn in hell, but how does that help the man who now has no hand?

[u/Sufficient_Flow3976]

There are quite a lot of muslims that want this. People that think that the west is brainwashed. Brothers and sisters. Barbarism is not the way to allah.

[u/AssaultOfTruth]

They have all the sensibilities of the dark ages. Had technology never been brought to them they wouldn’t even have electricity or antiseptics, and be indiscernible from the west hundreds of years ago.

[u/Bobbieawaw]

Is quran same as bible? Far as I know, Bible is more on love. Magdalene wasnt stoned to death even if she was a sinner. Cant really understand where their beliefs came from. Can someone show me and help me understand

[u/ayLotte]

Wasn't strict classic Sharia already implemented in Afganistan during these past 20 years?