The Problem With Aikido Students

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What's up Y'all? My name is Prince,   and I want to talk to y'all about  the Problem with Aikido Students. This is all based on what I observed when I  visited an Aikido school back in Nashville   about 5 years ago. I talked about that  visit in my video, The Problem with Aikido,   but I didn't say everything I wanted to say in the  video which is why I'm making a follow-up video. So before I dive in to everything, I want to share  something that Rokas said recently in his video,   "Was I wrong about Aikido?" This line about if Aikido is being trained in  the right way is exactly what I was driving at   as The Problem with Aikido in my last video,  but before I start to unpack everything,   let me backtrack, just in case you  didn't actually see the last video. Okay, so I study an internal martial art called   Zhong Xin Dao Il Liq Chuan.  Just to keep things simple,   I'll say that it is very similar to Taijiquan  because it's based on the Taiji Principles. I got my start in Chinese martial arts  with Wushu while I was in the Navy   because I was planning to become a  stuntman after I finished my contract. So I was looking to check out a local Aikido  school in Nashville because I knew there was   a lot of choreographed routines; I would get  to practice learning how to fall and roll;   and I was also hoping to be able to practice with  a lot of people who were doing something internal. Now if you don't know what I mean when I say that  I wanted to be able to practice with people doing   something Internal, well... I'll  just say that if you study Aikido,   then you just might also be a victim to what  I consider to be the Problem with Aikido. Well, if you know how things went on my  visit, I would say that I'm not the only one.   At the end of the class, the other instructor  spoke with me about my martial arts experience,   and he started asking me about my other teachers. He told me something was missing from the  Aikido curriculum because some teachers had   "it," and all the techniques that students  learn to reach black belt kind of go out the   window. All these teachers who have "it" can do  whatever they want as soon as they touch you. He said it seems to be some big  secret within the Aikido community. And this right here is the Problem with Aikido.  There's something missing in the curriculum. So   to go back to what Rokas said, there's a question  about Aikido being trained the right way. So when I talk about the Problem with Aikido, the  first thing I saw was what the Aikido instructor   said to me after class, that there's some  instructors who have it, and many who don't. When he said the missing "it,"  he was talking about Aiki. According to Wikipedia, Aiki is a Japanese  budō term, at its most basic is a principle   that allows a conditioned practitioner to  negate or redirect an opponent's power. Now in Chinese Internal martial arts, we  refer to this ability to redirect an attack   as Peng Jin. Sometimes my teacher calls  it Taiji Energy because it's the first   skill you need to make Taiji work as a martial  art. If you don't have Peng, you're basically   waving your arms around in the air, which is why  you see these Taiji people getting beat up by   Xu Xiadong-- they don't have Peng  on top of not knowing how to fight. On the last video, a few Aikido practioners  disagreed with me about Aikido missing the   training to develop Aiki, or Peng Jin,  but I didn't make up what I said. The   Aikido instructor at the school I  visited told me what was missing,   and around that same time, I actually had someone  write me who said almost the exact same thing. So about 4 years ago, I received a note  from a subscriber who has been studying   Japanese martial arts for about 20 years. He's  currently living in Japan studying Aikido. He said that during his time studying  Aikido, he's had teachers who taught   like they were trying to teach from a book  to at least two teachers who did things that   he could not explain. When they touched you,  it felt like you had nothing and were being   pulled into a hole even though it looked  like they weren't doing anything to you. If you're listening to this person's description  and it doesn't sound real, he's repeating my   experience from the first time I trained with my  teacher, Sam Chin. I had that kind of experience. So getting back to this message-- he goes  on to say that many Aikido schools are   trying to get back to their roots, and  many people believe that this is rooted   in Chinese Internal martial arts. The talk  online about the teachers who are doing it   refers to not just Internal martial arts, but also  having "it," meaning they have Peng Jin, or Aiki. Again, Peng Jin is not some magic Chi  fighting-- it just refers to what we say   in English as Ward Off. Ward Off is not just  a posture, it's a quality that the body has,   or a skill that you're able to do as a result  of the proper training to develop Taiji skill. So that brings us to the question as  to how O'Sensei developed this skill. In the first video, I said that O'Sensei may  have been exposed to the Chinese Internal Arts,   Baguazhang and Xing Yi Quan,  during his brief stints in China.   This was actually hypothesized by Bruce Frantzis  who studied with O'Sensei between 1967 and 1969. It's true that O'Sensei was at the Manchurian  front during the Russo-Japanese War in the early   1900s. O'Sensei also returned to China in 1924  where he tried to aid the leader of the Black   Dragon Society in establishing a religious  kingdom on Mongolia. O'Sensei was captured   by Chinese soldiers and later  released to the Japanese consul. O'Sensei would also return to China on  at least 3 occassions from 1939-1942   as a visiting martial arts instructor to an area  occupied by Japanese forces during World War II. Although there are numerous articles written by  Aikido practitioners attempting to debunk what   Bruce Frantzis hypothesized in his book "The  Power of Internal Martial Arts and Chi," the   question still remains as to where O'Sensei  would have learned the internal development   evident in his Aikido and why it is not part of  the formal Aikido curriculum taught to students. I mean, Bruce Frantzis wrote this book about his  experiences with various Internal Martial Arts,   but at the end of the day, Bruce is looking  to get people interested in the Bagua and   Taoist practices that he teaches, so it  makes sense that he would say "Oh yes,   after reflecting on my experiences training with  O'Sensei and looking at lots of video footage, I   think he studied Bagua's footwork and applications  and a little bit of Xing Yi's power development." Here's something to consider, though -- One  of the articles I read debunking Kumar's claim   about O'Sensei acknowledges the extensive training  Ueshiba had under his Aikijutsu instructor along   with the years of meditation practices he was  exposed to as part of the Omoto religious sect. So it turns out that Scott Meredith, who ran the  Internal Martial Arts blogsite as Tabby Cat for   years while living in Japan, has also written a  book specifically on the topic of training Aiki,   and he posits that O'Sensei did get  exposed to the internal training in   Chinese Internal Martial Arts --  but he was exposed to it in the   other martial arts and meditative practices that  he did which culminated in the art of Aikido. So the problem I see with a lot of Aikido students  is that they want to play the game without   doing the work. What I mean is that they see  what O'Sensei did, and they want to do that,   too. O'Sensei has a student run at him,  O'Sensei waves his arm and the students fall.   Now whether there is something really going  on there with O'Sensei displaying some kind   of internal skills, or leading the students  mind is a topic for a different discussion. What matters here is that a lot of Aikido students  see the technique, they repeat the technique,   and then this becomes the gospel truth regarding  what proper Aikido is -- but they don't have the   training and the experiences that O'Sensei  had which might actually make it work. An example is when you see Chen Taiji  Master Chen Xiaowang doing fajin,   or explosive movements, in when he does his  Taiji form, but then you see some beginner   student stomping on the ground and doing  all of this stuff to imitate Chen Xiaowang,   but they don't actually have any  real power behind that movement. To hammer home this point, here's a story  I didn't tell in the last Aikido video   about my visit to an Aikido dojo in Nashville.   After class, this one lady who was kind of the  self appointed leader of that particular group   of students was talking about how she wanted to  invite her roommate out to class. She said the   problem is that he wouldn't be a good uke because  he basically wouldn't comply with the techniques. I kept looking at her funny  like,"why does this make him bad?"   Like I understand when people are doing a drill,  there's an understanding between the two of   them -- this is what we're looking to train,  these are the rules for the game being played.   The problem is that it really feels like  ALL of the Aikido curriculum is like that. I mean, I've had people tell me in the comments  of my last video all about what would happen if   I visited "a real Aikido school." The truth  is that if I decided to not play the game and   comply with the techniques being demonstrated, I  would have just pushed them out of the position,   or you know...thrown a real jab where someone  wouldn't grab my wrist and start going all   Steven Seagal on me...or in the true Taiji sense,  I could have just yielded, and then thrown them. But I was practicing Wu De, by not  disrespecting their school, or their practice. The fact that I was allowing myself to be  thrown because I wanted to genuinely see   what Aikido was about should be a reminder to  that particular group of Aikido students that   the stuff they were doing worked because someone  allowed it to be done to them. I could have easily   resisted at any point... because of the little bit  of internal training I had done at that time. If   they really wanted to be able to neutralize, or  overpower me, they probably would have needed   to do the same -- but it seems to be missing  from the curriculum at a lot of Aikido schools. So I've been harping on about how the real  Internal Development to train the Aiki is   missing from the overall Aikido Curriculum, and  I know a lot of Aikido students have watched the   last video, and this one, thinking, "Well, you  don't even practice Aikido, so how do you know?" Well, I first started to become aware of  this because I was seeing all of these   demonstration videos of my Sifu at Aikido  dojos impressing them with his skills.   So I had someone comment on the last video  that my Sifu was actually impressed by   the students at their school. My big  bro, Ashe Higgs confirmed that -- so   there's definitely a few schools out there  teaching it. I never claimed there wasn't. The whole issue with the curriculum first came   to my attention by a guy who is actually an  Aikido instructor by the name of Dan Harden. I was first introduced to Dan  Harden by Scott Meredith, who   I mentioned earlier. He said that Dan was one of  the best internal arts people he'd ever touched. Most of the people I've read about  who trained with Dan rave about him,   but he's still a bit of a controversial character  in the Aikido community. I mean the worst thing   I'd heard about him was that if you go to  one of his seminars, you might get beaten up. I mean, the guy is talking about  internal training for Aikido,   and he's wearing MMA gloves. I guess this  is a big no-no in the Aikido community,   but he talks about doing yoga, meditation, qigong  exercises, lifting weights, and combat sports. I mean, if Rokas had not completely shut the  door on Aikido, it would have been cool to see   him link up with Dan Harden because he seems  like a guy who knows how to make Aikido work,   in combat sports, and in the real world without  years of experience as a bodyguard/doorman like a   lot of the other big guys I see who have probably  mostly turned their Aikido into some form of Judo. Look, there's nothing wrong with Judo -- just to  be clear, but I'm just saying -- size matters.   If a big guy can throw people smaller  than them around and call it Aikido,   does that mean that same technique is going  to work when a smaller person tries it? So that's why I highly recommend, if you  even question any of what I'm saying -- go   find Dan Harden. I've never met him  in person. I know people who have.   I know he's got something, and if you really  want to get a taste of how deep the rabbit hole   of Aikido really goes beyond just learning a  bunch of techniques until you get your black belt,   I would go see what that  guy has, but that's just me. If you didn't already see part 1 to this  video, The Problem with Aikido, you should   check it out. It will help this video make a bit  more sense. I don't have much more to say on the   topic of Aikido right now, but I am reading up  on training the Aiki, so if you Aikido folks   want to hear more on that, stay tuned -- but I  kinda want to get back to talk about Bruce Lee   and the problems I see in Internal Martial  Arts, you know-- the stuff I actually study,   so be on the lookout for more videos on those  topics -- like Why Bruce Lee hated Tai Chi. So that's something to look forward to. Anyway, thanks for watching. Y'all keep on breathing,   and I'll see you on the next video.
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Channel: Goldenbell Training
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Keywords: The Problem with Aikido Students, Goldenbell Training, aikido youtube, aikido is garbage, aikido ueshiba, aikido useless, aikido steven seagal, aikido real fight, aikido martial arts, aikido karate, aikido is fake, aikido history, aikido fighting style, aikido founder, Aikido effectiveness, Aikido aikikai, Aikido and the dynamic sphere
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Length: 13min 40sec (820 seconds)
Published: Sun May 23 2021
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