The PLINI Interview - The Modern Guitar Hero Shows Us His TONE Secrets

hey everyone I'm Rigby Otto episode 72 of what makes a son grade featured the Australian instrumental progressive band plenty which is fronted by the guitarist himself that feature the song electric sunrise today I had the band in the studio and here is our interviews complaining plenty I'm Simon Jake Jake Chris so they're in town here they're playing with periphery they're on a tour you guys been out touring on this too a for how long now no idea okay to it more more than more than a wee thing right yeah just two weeks every time I see them post on Instagram there's a massive crowd of people at the gigs but plenty told me that it's a the wide angle win it's a wide angle and sort of show so I've featured the band on my channel on what makes the Sun great I did the song electric sunrise probably about six months ago or so and known about them for I don't know probably two years bright this since 2016 I think Steve Vai turned me on to I said that turned me on to you guys my question is this why has instrumental progressive music that's guitar based why is it doing so well right now no idea I think it's has always been relatively popular mmm-hmm and now it's just people are getting more into doing it writing riffs as opposed to solos and that's why the music kind of sounds like it does now yeah I was I think I was like the typical trajectory of the Shred scene from the eighties dying off pretty quickly in the 90s and I kind of guess it's like a resurgence of shredders and you know technical guitar playing at that level but there's also it kind of becomes more of a thing where it's really focused on the composition as well where I think that probably makes it a little bit more appealing to the common list name you know where as opposed to I guess back then trying to show you someone that's just like you know three power cords and like a 64 bar shreds although right might not always be that interesting to everyone it's interesting to me but yeah I mean I can I can read that I think YouTube had a lot to do with it as well this it's now what 14 years after YouTube began and yeah that's probably the amount of time it takes for people to have so much access to the content of VHS tapes from the 80s and 90s that are suddenly there that the technique and musicianship of people has just skyrocketed because of that access what do you think yeah I think the Internet has definitely played a big role and I like I'm pretty slow on most things like that and I came to plenty pretty light but it was only because Simon is we go back a long way and he was playing on an EP I was like what is this let's check this out I was just might blown away it was the end of everything APU yeah completely blown away and I was like how is my friend from the Central Coast of Australia playing with Marco Minnemann let's go what's going on yeah I was pretty late to it but I'm just like I think all this is really really yeah it's been interesting the last couple years seeing it explode like seeing bands like Tron and Animals As Leaders just and then seeing plenty as well I just exploded or couple years it's been pretty interesting from someone that was kind of coming from outside of that world a little bit yeah you know it's it's pretty crazy so plenty talked about social media Instagram things like that and how you guys use it to not only promote yourself but you guys actually talked about other yeah other groups that you play with not only that but you also about the gear that you guys play you talk about that about how important that is to what you're doing I probably wouldn't have a career with that Facebook in the first place and a lot of the way that people found my music was other bands sharing it mm-hmm so I've just always done that cuz I thought like if you find something cool you share it and that has turned into a lot of the tools we've done have been people that we will come across on the Internet become friends with and then it's like who do I want to spend time with the next five weeks Sony's music I like and like the person I'm so without that I have no idea who would be touring this and then in terms of gear I guess it's also a way to find you stuff but also once you find something that you like to build a relationship with that company whatever by using it publicly but yeah it's kind of touring is almost like a bonus activity to me like it's easily the most expensive thing you can do now because I can sit at home and record music for free and sell it for free and then going on tours like eight flights and these guys are from Australia this is what you know the Sun it's a long it's a long for us to get anywheres like a day travel yeah first yeah now so plenty when you're writing the tunes will you typically use a drum program like a superior drums or yeah what are you superior you superior for it for a long time till get good drums cannot just because it's loads fast on its sounds mixed when you use it because now that I get to see my to do all the real production I just want to kind of get it damn light as fast as possible when you go in to track the drums will they typically be you know those will be the guide tracks that people will learn or whoever's playing drums will work you'll send them the I got me some pretty trash demos had some very interesting so won't be necessarily every fill all be worked out know the way we approached it on son head was I just took the pass of plenty of programs they'll just skilled him so just an idea of where kind of how to play the parts where the accents are really kickin yeah exactly yeah and then a lot of the blood of the rest of it was just me fleshing out ideas and you know we went into the studio with some parts of that record we'd literally nothing is like okay this is a section where we don't know what's going to happen over the top so we're going to create something in the studio so for example the anomaly does a keyboard so on the song flan yeah mm-hmm we constructed so it didn't have a baseline have not no idea what you saw that's every 32 empty bars of 4/4 clean track okay what are we gonna do here and we just kind of you know mess around with a few ideas in the studio and end up coming up with you know the the drum part that we did and that built that century from there so there's a lot of freedom so yes there's program parts but it's also just you interpret them how how you want and no doubt it was the same with Troy as well just he's a skeleton you're a drummer you know what you're doing yeah you you come up with this so you can you give them the you let them do their yeah you know it's not like they're copying your demos exactly you know there's only a few points where it was like oh I definitely need these yeah and that's one you know that's okay cool great I'll play that then yeah but for the most part it is just kind of do your own thing and even then before the tracking stage you guys hung out together for a couple of days yeah in like your spot and just worked on some but we also agreed a lot of stuff that ended up getting work done way more yeah here we I like you play something but I guess sounds great and then we get into the studio it's like can you play that tone just there and then that's also the benefit of having at the drummer like Chris is you can just throw ideas and if it's kind of an it's not like this thing he's rehearsed for like weeks before he gets to the studio I mean he has yeah that's the same time prepared there's a lot of there's a lot of flexibility you know which is really helpful especially in this sort of stuff when plenties been in his own world with demos and I actually prefer not to hear anything before I get to the studio just because I can kind of put my producer hat on and you know giving honest opinion if I think a section is kind of funny or if we should change something and Chris has got his own thing being the guy playing the drums you know so it's cool to be able to bounce between those three very different perspectives and it works out I think so when you guys are recording well you do I track sir we used it will you give ok so then you'll react or use a plug-in or something after yeah well you re amp through an ex effects or use your your plenty plug-in or what pretty much anything whatever it whatever it takes last night yeah the last record we did we were touring all over the place while I was trying to mix it so amps weren't really a possibility and again even there was some times where we were still figuring out what guitars how we wanted to go to a certain section so it was all plugins for the last record on the bass and all the guitars yeah so it was just what you do on the bass what plugins on the bass I used I think the neuro DSP doc loss marker juice yeah I gonna just been released or I was beta testing it or something like that so I used that with a bunch of I think line six helix native yep that pretty sure that was pronounced the bulk of it for the most part I might have actually used a boss HM - they have you better like the Swedish adding thing for some very nollie sounding sections but just a little blend in and just to kind of sound pretty ridiculous but it has its moments so that was basically it yeah so Jake when you guys are playing live you're using one acts effects on this tour and you have your own pedal boards for that to switch sounds or is everything program how do everything is MIDI program okay laptop so if we resource changing sounds for you yeah challenging sounds arbors we don't think about anything other than playing the guitar really which is makes life really really easy and as long as we're in tune it shouldn't be ax affects works we should be alright yeah so yeah what did you what is your sound like when you're playing at home what do you play through playing through the pliny plugin and the and the Konami plug-in but mostly like most of the time I like I have like a little thing to combo if I really want to but it's like my computer's there I can plug in I've got one what it is that makes life so easy and both plugins just sound good okay so when you're mixing or when he's mixing your record if he's me if he's acting your record how many times will you go back with mixed notes like a thousand one guy are you like that in my experience with a bunch of different clients I don't think it was that painful at all I think we kind of I we were doing one single at first and just drilling drilling through some ideas we just sat down at my house for like a day and went over everything and was like she just listen to it and then go through yeah it wasn't like this very intense like it's not micro mixing or any nice it was more just like he is kind of what I'm going for or I would again like like our recording process he kind of just lets me do my thing and if he turns up in here that makes things like god it's not really what I was thinking it's not like I'm gonna get bothered about it we're just gonna work on it and figure it out so and then by the end of the actual record it was just like a few you know you know some guitars needed to be a bit you know heavier in effect so you know as volume ashaming with us yeah yeah basically this guy likes a lot of delay and that's that's cool so that was yeah it wasn't too painful at all really like who were your guitar people that you were influenced by stay by Petrucci Satriani like classy bass guitarists and everyone else definite Matheny in your plane sure yeah yeah and then like Guthrie Govan and then tiresome and very freeing bands like that so pretty much everyone yeah yeah every every mainstream guitar I think it's because I never got into practicing or getting good at shred so my why to make things sound interesting on to Todd can't come from technical ability and has to come from something else I was when I see plenty doing something on and you know YouTube or wherever Instagram he always looks like I always think it's man man of leisure you always look like you're just kind of hanging out you get your you know you just hanging out there with your laptop you get your coffee sitting there in the table shredding on your guitar and end to work man man of leisure right pretty much I think that's my way of keeping things from being too indulgent yeah just relax yes them do it they can do all the fancy stuff yeah yeah like tonight well you say to me you'll say again tonight seemed I was like too man oh yeah I'm playing a one-night melody [Laughter] let those guys I think I think thought about had a good approach deal playing as well lends itself to maybe partly why people like your stuff is because the vocal like that we could talk on to 504 yeah it almost is like there's a first and it's of course and it's a melody it's no this complex things really digest as far as your background did your folks play music yeah my dad flies up rat bass and is he a professional musician yep and then in the last maybe 10 years or so went and studied and did a doctorate and then now Wow this teaches at the place they all went to yeah that's I didn't realize that until I graduate I think he's had in a couple of classes too I was like let's go dad okay yeah Wow okay so when you were growing up did your dad yell at you to practice I thought that was it I asked him I'd be like teach me jazz and they were like just listen to it what about you guys with your did you ever take lessons or anything yeah so we all studied at a place called the Australian Institute of Music in Sydney and was that kind of like a Berkeley yet so we all did the same thing to our respective instruments you know it's just it was a Bachelor of Contemporary Music so we just get in there everything from like trad jazz to like modern pop music and then that's it it's not completely focused on jazz but there's a bit of it and yet all that was basically approved was that two years so that was basically it I guess we take theory classes history moments for improvisation don't remember any of it but we did tells me I did it it wasn't that long ago that was it when do you I graduated Oh ten years ago Wow I did it straight out of high school so quick two and a half years as soon as I finished high school and was done yeah yeah did you go to school as well at the same place the same place yeah before these guys yeah yeah so I did all that stuff - how much retained yeah but I think the three of us all did music lessons growing up in one form or another and I remember just being obsessed with listening to music like I would hassle my mom about getting some headphones and like a Walkman and just like wherever I could just sit around and just listen to it I would even if I didn't really know what I was listening to it was just on and I knew that at some point I wanted to play guitar or bass or something like that and I had like a friend the wood he had like an acoustic guitar and stuff so we jammed on that for a little that became like the idea of you should get a bass instead so we could play together and somebody's got to play bass yeah finally enough for like the first few years I was playing a lot of guitar and bass at the same time not physically at the same time right yes I spend a lot of time practicing both of them and then I never got a bass lesson until I went to the degree that I studied for but I got guitar lessons because I wanted to understand chords a little more and try and write like basic metalcore riffs at the age of 16 which is definitely what I was I was doing at the time but it definitely helped but ya know bass like nobody's lessons up until that point the proper degree now you you have parents or musicians or even my old man was a great bass player that my whole time growing up like the first you know 10 10 or so years of growing up he was always out playing music every night and then we we moved away from from that area and he's kind of stopped and just you know started working a more traditional job so he was very encouraging as soon as I expressed any interest in in playing any instrument like I tried to guitar for a little bit it didn't work out so well and that's right and then yeah when I was about 12 or 13 I expressed I was annoying them about playing drums and got a kit and had a few lessons for like a year or so and then was self-taught through most of my teenage years I just get home and just go straight to my drum room and make as much noise as I possibly could and then when i when i studied at the institute of music that's when a lot of door started opening in terms of yeah like what i was listening to it wasn't just yeah punk rock or or Metallica or something like that it was like oh Miles Davis okay what's this about yah yeah yeah exactly so that really expanded all a lot of my um my listening habits and and how I played as well we're still a lot of Metallica though still a lot of Metallica okay so before we finish up here I'm gonna get plenty to fire up my ax effects and program me a sound that I can use on it so I can pretend to play like him okay so plenty is gonna program me a great lead guitar sound here kind of a great okay Ally a mediocre lead guitar scene here with with the ax effects and he's actually starting starting from scratch right up I'm not totally from scratch but well when you typically will program something like this will you start a patch from scratch or you take something that um I haven't made a pass from scratch since Matt pecan did one told me in Rise 2007 good old Matt yeah said he made a patch for me and then we sat and made like whole sets worth of patches okay and then did you come to Australia to do it now we were racing in New York and there's like a couple of hours okay and then I upgraded to the three and copy of all my settings like by I as in like all the bases at for others and it sound the same at better because the three is better than the two okay yes I haven't done anything you need it but yeah this is what and what uh what what amp will use on this um probably the 5153 blue okay the blue is the middle channel juicy news that morning is it yep the 50-watt cuz we don't need all power hahaha I asked him why those numbers like this he's like because then I don't have to move my finger yes sometimes you get lag when doing this okay reason and then the cab I use the same cab that I use the years ago to think is this one not quiet this one which is probably ten years old uh something I think it came in regular cab that's probably got vintage 30s yeah and then drive something like this so this would be an overdrive pedal here yeah so like a tube screamer [Music] make that less compressive amid the quake little hands [Music] maybe some gate I've never seen this nice do you know what that would be based on based on the name I'm not sure was it is this a modulation delay so this says deluxe mind guy I have no idea what that would be Chris a new mind guy what would that be here rich Simon's just sitting here judging your tone creation what do you think so this is the thing that's maybe important okay because it's a digital thing yeah is to just get rid of the top end that doesn't exist in a real gap okay so up to do that for live at least that's uh my missing also for live I might put one more eq just to really get rid of more of the top end yep [Music] is it just like a median gain sort of thing I might get pretty long actually similar adds a lot of treble to what I don't know why I did that like when when I sent him the demos my mix is like there's nothing I have a 5k yep and I don't know why like 1k [Music] but still come too much game to me it's the early in the morning okay am I gonna be able to rip though with that without a little bit more game than that well maybe I can gain I'm just yeah you should the RIP things in the hands [Music] probably get a stereo and wet yeah [Music] I guess if you wanted to read you could just [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] now we're your lead tones typically have that much game Navi way down okay um actually for a heaviest song probably sorry [Music] beautiful dank show you have and that's the next year have you been set up in a while [Music] [Music] it's Nestor he feels really nice [Music] survive [Music] okay Simon how's he doing so plenty are you saving do you save this as you're doing it how do i do the probably turn about without saving [Music] [Music] [Music] [Music] so with these things like the chorus if you have the foot pedal then you could theoretically just mute those particulars yes right beside all the switches to whatever you want I have the foot switch over there but now you set it up though so I can really use it okay so that's what be ac30 and I see video too bright yeah top that be top booster TB top boost [Music] playing the guitar pro themes on it what you did you say this was at 65 60 [Music] so you can actually set that a build press the button and then that was all that man whose channel is written yeah Wow Lester [Music] like to thank the whole band guys thank you for coming in thank you check out what should they check out follow them on it's an Instagram everybody has an Instagram I'll put it in the comments below in the description if you don't know plenties music go to Spotify and check it out or go to Apple music or wherever wherever you watch it on YouTube even and thanks guys for coming out looking forward to the show tonight that's all for now please subscribe here to my everything music YouTube channel if you're interested in the Beato book or t-shirts coffee mugs anything to support the channel that's how I make a living go to my website at wwlp.com follow me on instagram at rick p @ o1 check out the newbie Otto ear training method go to be outer ear training , watch the introduction video and if you want to support the channel even more think about becoming a member of the Beato Club thanks for watching [Music]

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Length: 31min 9sec (1869 seconds)

Published: Fri Feb 14 2020