The Official Podcast #213: Noel Miller & The Social Dilemma

so i'll take us in boys welcome back to the official podcast this is episode 213 and we're joined by a podcast guest favorite noelle miller take the stage man it's always good to see you podcast guest favorite damn thank you veteran hell yeah dude nah i was uh um i was pretty i was pretty stoked on this i was actually thinking like what if i just came on here for like a shitty ulterior motive to like promote a fortnight crater code or something i mean we got more sponsors yeah yeah you yeah man i'm so happy to be back have you guys heard of fortnite i think i have hearing that wait am i supposed to hear you telling me about it yes do you not want to yeah that's the good music that plays when you're being funny okay the audience can't hear it by the way so it's gonna be very confusing for them for to reiterate for those of you listening at home when we record this live uh and you can hear that if you're a patron but we play music in the background to keep things lively but we uh don't keep it in in post just so it doesn't work noelle's hearing it yeah noel is not schizophrenic he's perfectly sane but there is music playing while we record these episodes it's mega man music too so it actually is kind of like an uppity jingle it's actually it is this is genius because it makes this whole thing feel like a final boss like we have to you know really make the conversation flow yeah i like how you said you [ __ ] up kai is going to play like the pokemon death sound effects well charlie what i do have for you though is not that but i told you last week so no you weren't here so this will be a nice recap for you but charlie our buddy here broke a record last week yeah what did i tell you charlie i totally had full clips didn't i so real quick this is for yeah this is you from last week charlie so i teleported on top of the key and i ran to plankton and i beat the world record by almost two seconds i got an 1810 and what could be an unbeatable world record so there is one launch that could be better but it's just so incredibly unlikely you'd have wait wait wait we're talking about speed running here you're gonna be hanging up this caller and see that it's been broken but no it was the luckiest moment well that's why it's unbeatable if it was just skill it would be madeable absolutely because someone will beat that eventually it is dragging me down when i say unlikely i mean like extreme like astronomically unlikely like i know it could happen but it's gonna be a [ __ ] minute i think 24 hours later i'm no longer the world record holder for mr krabs overdose it was it was three days i held it for three days you said it was impossible to beat i said it was astronomically unlikely so charlie i'm looking at i'm looking at the current leaderboard right now astronomically unlikely means that six people could do it in a couple days right you are in seventh place right now oh my god that's not astronomically unlikely also how does it feel knowing that one of the leaders in third place is jmac one of your friends he went for like a 12 hour stream to beat the record so that was that was gonna happen is this a this is a minecraft speed run mr krabs overdoses he um so to your in your defense you know he also does not have a record in minecraft either so wait do you have a record in anything now charlie that was your only what about what about house of caravan and all those old ones oh i lost that years ago some dude strung together a miracle runner oh you know if you had if you had just used a pseudonym or something or and not gloated about it on the podcast or on the internet at all you'd probably still have it well then what's the point yeah yeah then what's the point of having a record if you're not going to gloat about i'm just saying in his position it makes it incredibly hard to hold these records at any point really that's like that's like a ninja excuse you can't do that man like you just you have to own it you know you can't complain about getting streams it's a weak mindset it's part of the country because i'm good and popular yeah that's how it works i think it's a lot more fun to have like a cutthroat competition especially for something goofy like the mr krabs on ketamine game i think it's great i'll get it back i'll get it back i'm not worried about it what what's the difference in uh times now like what are they at what are you at i think the right i mean if andrew's got the leaderboard up i do correct me if so charlie's charlie's record as it stands is 18.1 and the current world record is 16.89 so yeah you were right yeah damn i want to go set a 15 and then come back and do another episode and be like what's up guys just had to come through 15. you're looking at a leaderboard where the differences in positions are like 0.2 seconds and you want to go a whole second and a half longer hey listen you know for there's if you watch formula one you know mercedes smashes everyone by at least 10 seconds so you know i'm just going to build the f1 of speed runs whatever that looks like the mercedes of speed runs excuse me just first tries it immediately i'm gonna hit up dream man don't worry i'mma solve this and make sure i never lose oh cool that's what we need right now some [ __ ] like that isn't is a dream like being cancelled for faking your speed runs or some [ __ ] waiting you guys gotta explain that one i'm surprised you don't know this one kaia this is like the perfect kind of drama for you it's a minecraft drama it's uh what is it with christmas and people calling me autistic well not necessarily what i'm saying it's because the drama is super goofy like this is some turbo nerdy [ __ ] so dream is the biggest minecraft creator and actually like the biggest gaming channel right now he's a speedrunner in minecraft he did a stream or a few streams i remember where he got like these incredible runs like super lucky runs and there was like a sixth place sixth place finish for one of them and then the mon team looked at those runs and over the course of two months created a 29-page document using statistical analysis from like actual degree having professionals it was the ketamine game or minecraft now this is minecraft now um let's not undersell dream it's i mean he's got like what 13 million subs on youtube dude he's like 14. i think he did all over 15 yeah and all of his videos get like [ __ ] 50 million views or some [ __ ] after a month you speed right on youtube right like yeah he did yeah he's saying so so this is not them analyzing like some random speedrunner or getting super hyper focused this is like the guy of the moment right now apparently cheating yeah and he the this mod community for minecraft spent two months in the lab analyzing brutally dis like decrypting every possible analytical detail published the 29 page paper and video explaining how the odds of dream getting those runs was one in 7.5 trillion making it so statistically unlikely that he pulled it off that it had to be cheated faked and manipulated so in response dream called them clout chasers and just click baiting and then he made a video a few days ago where he said i hired a phd haver from harvard an astrophysicist and practicing yeah yeah so he just goes on like with these creations for this guy who publishes like a really amateurish report on the entire thing that gets immediately debunked by every station on reddit and he had a phd oh well [ __ ] no no no no real quick though jackson he never said who did it he just said this guy i hired wanted to stay anonymous and he has a phd from harvard and astrophysics and he lives and he talks to animals and he can fly yeah he looks like nintendo yeah he's john minecraft well it was probably dream then right dream wrote it himself well i think the most popular theory is he hired from a consultation website that just had like aesthetician guy who makes [ __ ] up here code official by the way if you're gonna scan your way through a speed run don't don't drag fiverr's name down with this i love fiverr they're great dude no if anything that's crazy they're efficient at providing uh minecraft changes you can hire anything on fiverr i feel like the only thing left for them is to like allow child labor on there like are they done already no just like hire a nine-year-old to beat up another one on tick-tock or something that's something that comes to mind is more like it yeah anyway sorry continue with the dream drama i love this [ __ ] i think it's great like i'm i'm not too big into minecraft to me it's always like harmless drama really it's kind of just like yeah goofy fun that's why i like it's not like someone was raped or anything it's just someone cheated in minecraft well his daughter was raped this man broke down about it bro dream got so upset about that whole [ __ ] thing man yeah i mean you know the crazy i mean it wasn't jackson said andrew were you saying that he's a speedrun youtube that [ __ ] is so crazy like i looked at his sub count he like shot up to 800 and then cratered to 200 for some reason and now he's at 15 million absurd yeah yeah wait oh what happened between 800 and 200 then did he did he cheat then and people did that that's like the weird part i don't know if um because i don't remember when youtube changed their apis so i don't know if there was some weird thing there or um uh they couldn't you know capture the same amount api how attached to youtube mainframe are you you have to go damn susan has me on a list man i'm i'm i'm a big threat you're blacklisted from the api i mean looking at this man's [ __ ] social blade he had a month where he got 200 million views and and apparently roughly gets a hundred thousand new subs a day like what the [ __ ] what's even the point of being on youtube at that point like you [ __ ] won who cares yeah well what's next like a talk show on prime tv yeah what's next man you gonna box somebody goddamn dreamboxing someone that'd be cool he should fight the minecraft mods one by one dude i love how that's a drama is yeah he did something and people accuse him of cheating or he's accused of cheating so yeah so what what what happens now is he kicked off the internet does he lose all this you can never truly prove he cheated unless you go by like his behavior because you've been kind of a douchebag about the whole thing and the first publicated or published paper the one that took two months that one's usually talked about as like the actual well done one the one he responded with most people called it like a high school report so i mean if you go by the first one that math makes it so incredibly unlikely to pull off as many lucky runs as he did that it can just be assumed it was faked no yeah but i don't trust your mouth anymore charlie no offense to give it up i didn't publish the paper that's not mine that's that's the professionals to give it a little bit of credit just to i don't know keep something in there it's not a zero percent chance of happening it is it's you're accepting money from dream on you andrew you son of a [ __ ] but i mean i guess to give him some credit in some way yeah it probably didn't happen yeah he's probably cheated but it could have happened one in a trillion dollars not nothing yeah he could have one in 7.5 one in 7.5 trillion and that's only for one run i think it was like each run was a 1 in 7.5 trillion or something i don't remember now it's been a little bit since i went through it but it was multiple runs of crazy rng i actually tried speed running minecraft with matt and danny the other day and now i truly know how [ __ ] absurd his luck was when playing that goddamn game it's crazy maybe as you get more famous you get more luck rng in minecraft's program than that yeah what's the what's the creator of minecraft's name uh i think if you like end up at one of his weird hollywood parties i think he gives you like a special code or something laser speed runs he's like yeah i got you dude it's gonna be a point of protesting that besides the massive money amount of money that he got like everyone is still playing minecraft i'm gonna assume he has you know he has all the money that he'll ever need he doesn't even know what money is worth at this point people are still playing minecraft it's still the drama of the day the top game of the day it's that is so crazy man yeah minecraft will always be legacy no matter what technology comes out and what things start shaping in games minecraft is still just always going to be a standard yeah staple it's like [ __ ] mario brothers well i feel like even yeah even as like tech gets better too the game can just be more interesting like i think kids would eat that [ __ ] up in vr yeah they they just [ __ ] invited the game minecraft you can throw any new technology into it and it works fine vr and ray tracing and what the [ __ ] ever you want like i wonder if back when he was originally coding it he ever imagines people [ __ ] ray tracing in minecraft what the [ __ ] it's like legos he's talking about ray tracing here yeah i wish my legos had ray tracing well so dreams never showed he's showing his face though right he's still in an like anonymous um individual yeah yeah yeah hmm damn that's smart he could really just fade away into obscurity and take all his millions of dollars with him he he would never that guy he's got quite the ego i'm actually shocked he hasn't shown his face because i feel like he'd love the real world attention he skips right to his dick he's in the show's face i didn't defend him jackson i'm just asking i know nothing about this guy i was just wondering why someone who someone who's a millionaire why would he be that upset about people on the internets talking [ __ ] about him in the comments if you have that much money and you're so successful i think it's genuinely just the speed of which you gain that kind of um you know fame he's not used to it success yeah yeah i think he just has a big ego man like if you like insult him he takes it really personally i mean that's we're agreeing charlie i'm i'm talking about why he's going to ego how are you going oh you're more in the psychology i get you yeah he could have some you know narcissistic parents dude and you know he just takes it way too hard and here we are doing what his parents did to him guys good job how old did you say this joking yeah how old is he i think he's 20 i think he's 20 or so when are you sorry so he says you could turn it out he's like 50. we don't know he's anonymous that's why he nailed the speed run he's actually like a 65 year old minecraft player practicing for it's actually 20 years that's why he's so good holy [ __ ] that's why he doesn't care about the money either no yeah so charlie continue why is he sort of spoiled or whatever you were saying so well i was just saying i didn't i thought kai didn't believe he had an ego i was just going to say because i went on a podcast with him and he was telling the story about like he always knew he was going to blow up and his advice to up-and-comers was to be super confident to the point of arrogance he said he used to leverage favors from the community by promising them he'd blow up and remember them it was kind of jesus christ that is super douchey whoa did you say that to his face or were you i didn't get a chance because everyone else was uh busy complimenting it whoa but yeah i thought that was pretty douchey it's always the advice whenever you hear someone say just follow your dreams it it's it's usually people who have already achieved their dreams and and have made significant amounts of money who say that it's like okay but you know a lot of people don't have the luxury you know burger flipper just oh i'm gonna go i'm gonna be a breakout success i'm gonna quit my minimum wage job and play minecraft for a living because i believe in it it doesn't work that way unless you're already successful dude the internet has created way too many young millionaires i like oh yeah yeah it's it is oh tick tock especially oh my god man don't get me started on that [ __ ] just cause like of i don't know what something compels me to feel like i need to be there so i have this like very begrudging thing where i'm like all right i'm gonna post a goofy ass joke on there and i just man if i was like a 16 year old now and i went on that app i would for sure question wanting to continue existing god damn i mean dude like how many kids like just you know i'm surprised there isn't like a [ __ ] forex trading house with like you know seven kids or six teams like we didn't we're not going to college we all made 20 million dollars this year and like all the kids that do drop shipping and like now a lot of them you know they they like scam [ __ ] from like amazon through etsy it's just it's crazy and they all start off you're missing out if you if you're not on that platform right no i mean it's like i make money on the internet but if i didn't i would delete my social media in a heartbeat i hate all of it oh yeah but i feel like i'm compelled that like i i have to have a twitter account even though i despise twitter and i feel like i have to have a tick tock now because it's the hot thing of the year yeah i hate it even though it's a [ __ ] chinese spy app it's because we're fortunate people and it feels like you're insulting others by just giving up on that potential really if you don't yeah if you don't take advantage of what you're given i don't know yeah it does feel kind of ridiculous i think it's that and like i i think also i don't know how you guys feel but i kind of approach it just like a job it's like hey man this is just another aspect of the job like that's how i do it yeah i i mean i only have twitter for the most part to just like promote [ __ ] i'm doing it's like i i really don't go on there and browse it and use it and other platforms to people once i blow up yeah or just yeah yeah it's actually what i'm doing on tick tock because they're all like 14 so they don't know like i have a podcast and stuff so i'm like dude i'm starting a podcast and if if if it does any bit of success man i'm a [ __ ] i'ma follow you all back i swear to god [ __ ] 300 episodes deep in the tiny meat gang yeah man what's up what's up guys i'm noelle i'm just a working man you know i want to pursue my dreams of podcasting i get that though it's just [ __ ] i if i made a billion dollars today i would delete everything immediately oh yeah in a harvard i won't even say goodbye i'm sorry i don't mean to offend any of my followers but the only reason i'm still on twitter is like i look at the follower account i say like 30 000. okay this is like free promotion i'd be stupid to delete my twitter now unless somebody forces me off the platform by banning me but god do i hate the sight like the only reason i even use it anymore is like to get myself riled up out of the bed in the morning hell yeah [ __ ] you that's unhealthy social media is unhealthy it sucks just because you have an account on that doesn't mean you have to use it then i guess even more so you don't have to use it to make yourself mad no that's the american way dude at least no that's another thing so on instagram what i like about instagram is that i only follow kitten accounts okay kitten and like a couple of puppy like rescue accounts and it's adorable my instagram timeline is a blessing but for sure kitten accounts was like a code name for like yeah no it's actual kittens it's actually awesome okay but on twitter uh recently a couple of months back i decided to make a private account aka like something where you know it's just for me and my close personal family and friends i follow like five people only okay and yet still like political shits depressing shits aggravating [ __ ] makes it into my timeline because twitter i think is designed to be that way it doesn't matter that's how they function to drive engagement the most engaged audience member is one that is angry that's the whole driver yeah i'm just saying that on instagram for instance i can escape that there's still some sad posts when like a [ __ ] kitten dies but it's not like twitter where it almost feels like it's designed no matter how much you try to curate your timeline and the people you follow the platform still tries to force aggravating political depressing [ __ ] into your timeline to keep you on their side that's what i meant to charlie is like it's almost designed to keep you angry twitter so i have an accountant it kind of does mean i have to get angry if i want an account on twitter unfortunately yeah that's fair yeah that's fair i mean how else are you going to tweet if you're not angry sorry no you're good you're good it's just uh i was going to bring up something that's related to that that happened to me recently have you guys seen the movie called the social dilemma uh netflix i started i no i think i wanted to start it but okay i'm gonna i'm gonna go ahead and say don't because it [ __ ] sucks ass i couldn't really empathize with like a [ __ ] you know high six figure engineer being like i created the like button the most damaging thing oh my god dude there were a few shoes created years ago you joke but that's one of the guys claims to fame on the show he goes i designed this and that and this yeah and like they're actual like reputable things but then he has to end it all with the facebook like button like all sinisterly yeah what kind of show is it so tell us so so the social dilemma is a documentary on netflix i think it's a netflix original documentary but i'm not sure but it's about the what kind of what we were just talking about how social media is literally engineered to keep you clicking and looking at it and angry and keep you involved and like it it's it's fighting for your attention so i i started watching it because i was like oh i you know i've talked about this topic we've talked about this on the podcast before how social media has these trickings and these problems and that i'll check this out and it starts out pretty pretty cheesy and you know just over exaggerated whether like i made this [ __ ] monster and this is gonna kill people and this that it's like okay but i get the point they're making but a little bit into the movie when i just had to stop watching it because it got so unbearably shitty they try to um visualize the algorithm they use for you so you can understand it you know the algorithm that goes oh they scrolled into this content i'll show them more of this content or oh i'll give them this notification to keep them engaged and the way that they visualize it is they show three men in a room at a star trek computer and they all look like toby maguire's spider-man after he takes off the symbiote suit with with his like comb down hair and they're sitting at the computers going uh-oh she seems to have made a new post about her kitten quick quick go into the video database find kittens immediately oh wait and then and they like push it on the screen in like these little ratio numbers and they're like star trek sci-fi floaty panels it's [ __ ] good three minutes they're trying to explain just the algorithm that goes oh you like this cat video here's more cat videos oh you haven't logged off in this in this or you haven't logged in in this amount of time let's send you an email to remind you to check this out but it's just this whole [ __ ] like they sound like [ __ ] predators like selling cigarettes to kids they're like oh uh oh we're losing him quick activate alpha sector got him epic fails cringe compilation he can't resist that it's [ __ ] hilarious bro yes no i i actually remember that but i bailed i think within the first minute or so like as soon as i saw that come in i'm like i can't i can't yep it's take this seriously and the movie is the movie is the most condescending movie i've ever seen they they use these like dramatizations to be like this could happen to your family so they show this family at dinner time and they're all tapping away on their phones and the mom goes hey family how about for this dinner we we don't look at our phones here let me let me have them i'll take them and she takes all the phones and she locks them in a kitchen safe like those those little plastic containers that have a timer lid on them and it's like okay this is already kind of dumb like you would think that being a parent you could take your [ __ ] kid's phone away and function and you know keep it away from them but okay fine so then the daughter who is like probably 13 14 gets so [ __ ] crazed and stark raving mad that her phone is taken away she smashes the safe open with a hammer yeah and runs away to a room with it because she has to answer that text message and they had these goofy like embedded coming of age like story lines in there like the older brother the the mom's like if you stay off your phone for a whole day i'll get you a new car's i forgot whatever the [ __ ] the reward was your new car no it wasn't it was something there was something it was something ridiculous and he's like a whole day easy and then the whole time some girl's like messaging him like i want to [ __ ] you so bad and it's like you as a viewer you're sitting there being like dude you shouldn't have gave your phone away the girl wants to [ __ ] you now oh no the point the point i kept making while well the point that i kept making while watching the movie was god i hope they don't need those phones for an emergency i hope the mom like doesn't slip in the kitchen and impale herself on a [ __ ] knife because how the [ __ ] are they going to call an ambulance she's going to bleed out they should have put the phones in the safe and then they lit on fire closing the house no dude they're all five samsungs it just creates like a crazy [ __ ] shrapnel bomb that takes them all out it's like a twilight twilight episode oh it is so if you if you want to watch a movie that literally talks down to you and treats you like a [ __ ] [ __ ] watch the social dilemma i couldn't i got less than halfway through and turned it off it was so i want to watch it you sold me on it i want to watch it yeah you might get something out of it but i couldn't finish it it was unbearable it was [ __ ] awful i think it's right for charlie you have no concentration i feel like you could easily get a good six minutes out of that [ __ ] easily easily okay now now guys i i hate to be the one to interrupt but i've got to ask you a very important question do you really know what's in your multivitamin i mean sugars gmos synthetic fillers artificial colorants not to mention animal byproducts they're all ingredients you might find in a multivitamin but ritual isn't your typical multivitamin ritual's clean vegan-friendly formula is made with key nutrients and forms your body can actually 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say that it's good for their mental health yeah that's the problem i had with it like they they bring up the slot machine analogy which we directly talked about on the show where it's like oh yeah you check your phone all the time because you're hoping you get a notification this and that but the problem is that they immediately follow up that analogy by showing like some stupid metaphor maybe they'll show like a [ __ ] chainsmoker and a casino at a slot machine like give me one more poll one more like that that's not the best way to get a serious point across it just comes across as goofy as [ __ ] just comparing everybody to like an attic to the [ __ ] las vegas gas station like yeah i need it i mean they are it's a valid point but that just sounds goofy that sounds like a cringe if they presented it very just clear cut with some like good graphics it would have been a great documentary but they they dedicate people wouldn't have watched it then i feel i think if you make it too dry it wouldn't be able to reach the intended audience yeah the audience loves it that's true the reviews make it sound like it was some profound revolutionary tale the social dilemma is a shockingly disturbing and insightfully captivating documentary film that explores dangerous human impacts i guess when you're when you're showcasing it to an audience who's never heard of this stuff it's effective but i don't know if you've been paying attention to the [ __ ] internet for the last 10 years it's just a useless movie i think that's three men in a room looking at monitors analogy would have worked on my grandparents maybe yeah maybe they would have figured out all of the [ __ ] you guys are saying right now sounds to me like blackmair like this show has been making the same [ __ ] point for 10 episodes every season for 10 seasons now we get it yeah technology has its downsides we get it make a different point move on yeah but you know man how how are how are all the boomers gonna vote if they don't know that social media is killing teenagers man yeah i agree with you guys i think boomers are the only ones who are still impressed by this [ __ ] or you can vote on a netflix show like you can click in a place a different scene according yeah [ __ ] it's called a game jesus dude i feel uh this is kind of like hitting both things but between tick tock or how can i say this tick tock now like okay imagine think about when we started first using the internet because we're old as [ __ ] right it was like live leak and going into chat rooms and pretending you're a girl all that stuff dude um before the before like the pandemic and stuff i was like working on a new stand-up set and and a lot of it was like this like kind of it was sort of like this boomer like uh take on the internet like my whole a lot of my premise was like uh get off my lawn like like i was on the internet first kind of thing like me and a whole bunch of other people but i think about people now like their introduction to the internet is like it's like all brands you can make money you do dances you know what i'm saying like it's it's such like this like weird like um like monetized thing you go you can start a youtube channel you can make money it's like all about making money and i'm like that's such a stark difference from how a lot of kids got introduced to the internet which was just like sneaking onto that [ __ ] it was like bad like you weren't supposed to be there i don't know it's just crazy yeah that kind of money aspect is only really within the last uh 10 years pretty much youtube just youtube that's what started it yeah you couldn't like the only people that made money on the internet before that was you know advertisements yeah that was like that was like you you'd be playing like brood war and it's like some dude is like hey man you know you can make money off adsense you're like i'm 12 and then that's why i kind of like the because you know the the boomer generation was the one that said oh youtubers that's not a real job streaming what's that that's not yeah what the [ __ ] are you doing go go be a clerk someplace go go get a cashier that's a real job go be a car mechanic so when you say that you know all these tick tock stars are 15 and they're making millions and yeah it is kind of a there is a downside to it but i also like that traditional media has not been able to keep up with it like you you now have youtubers who make some of them make more money than hollywood films of their release like okay well that's just how it works keep up then keep the [ __ ] up it's more accessible to more people now so this is your fault if you're not making as much money as this 12 year old that you [ __ ] despise for playing minecraft and doing nothing else well apparently it's entertaining people like it step up keep it's like pretty good i mean i don't i don't even want to steamroll this but it's just something that like um i've encountered a lot of recently it's like a lot of hollywood producers and stuff uh because i've gone into pitches and some of them you could tell like they have this mega condescending attitude towards the internet and you know like that because a lot of like the older producers and stuff their angle is oh that's what my kids use and they legitimately look at it like it's like leapfrog or like some fisher-price app like they don't get that a lot of people use that [ __ ] because they just use it to distract their kids right they don't want to talk to their kids and like that's what youtube is how does that attitude still persist though when like it's a tried and true method at this point people make absolute bank from you it's not just it's not just a method the internet in my opinion is the biggest achievement of mankind you could offer me the cure to cancer right now and i would still say that the invention of the internet was more significant to the history of humanity yeah i mean i think i think the attitude people are sitting out there going exactly what noel said oh yeah oh you're on the internet's playing on youtube yeah my my kid watches youtube well a lot of them i think the problem with that is those guys like they've they were from the era where hollywood made like [ __ ] truckloads of cash so they can't compre like they like they're like notch like they have so much money from media that they don't have a perception or like even they don't even want to begin to understand that you can make that kind of money from the internet they just don't think that [ __ ] is possible so they think you need them still it's it's very bizarre and i had i had i had a pitch meeting recently where this dude was kind of talking about how uh studios are changing their structure because basically the pandemic like shut down uh how hollywood makes money because typically they do stuff in verticals like one like they have tv you know uh film and then digital is always like this thing that they don't care about now they have to collapse and they have to make media and then figure out where to put it and the dude was like talking to us he's like yeah man it's it's kind of crazy you know the studio's just having to change how they do things i'm like yeah it took you long enough bozo anyway did you make me feel really did you make a deal with this executive to put all these new movies on your channel yeah yeah so i'm here from crude seven available exclusively on noel yeah yeah i want to sign a distro deal with weird [ __ ] yeah they are pissed off that now individual people even no matter of their age or skill level or whatever they can now just publish themselves as oh you don't have to go through us in our advertising manager and our publishing house to get your movie out there what what do you mean you just did a gofundme and did it yourself you can't do that what the [ __ ] we're the new york times [ __ ] you can't do that you can't just release movies on your own be more popular than us yeah they're dying they know it and they're pissed they're so pissed about it you know who else i really feel bad for though like kind of in the same vein like old professional video game players like mlg players they made literally nothing just lost money for like 10 years and now it's like the most profitable [ __ ] career you can get into you're right i didn't even think about it i look at all did you guys like follow competitive counter strike like when it first started like do you guys remember what complexity first was a team yeah they were like was that your team no no no no it was but like um did you get burned by the industry too yeah bro me and jason lake dude um no complexity was like the first american team to have sponsors because yeah like wow at least what year was this um [ __ ] i don't know uh man roughly like 10 years ago yeah at least it i no longer this this it'd have to be i think it was like 15. 16 years ago man um so because so like there used to be this event called cpl and it was um uh it was like one of the big tournaments it was like before mlg um there was cpl and then uh i think eswc it doesn't matter basically these dudes like they were the first ones to get sponsors and and i thought that [ __ ] was so cool and their sponsors were like amd and like some other people and you go look at them now they have all these like odd weird ass jobs like former pro cs player a real estate agent fraud from complexity you're like damn like you missed the boat you were like way too early man yeah i know i feel so [ __ ] bad and the same for for youtubers as well like ray william johnson was the first one to make like a career off youtube he said we made quite a bit of money i'm sure no he i'm sure he did fine but i'm saying like even before him i don't know you guys probably won't remember these names but like what the buck show he used to remember yeah yeah but that man i don't think he ever made a scent from youtube he was pulling in like back in the day would be like 100k would be one of the top videos of the week he was pulling that in daily and i don't think he ever saw a [ __ ] dime from it evolution of dance guy yeah i don't think he ever made any money like it feels so bad for those people damn pave the way man yeah they got nothing for it [ __ ] martyrs yeah i mean imagine if in the 90s or the 2000s you guys know billy mitchell the guy who allegedly cheated on donkey kong you go into a bar you tell the ladies yeah donkey kong professionally won a world record what are you talking about there's women who would kill themselves to [ __ ] ninja like times have changed they just haven't met billy mitchell yet he can be very persuasive he's a he's a charismatic guy have you seen billy mitchell um i'm surprised he's been speed running a whole lot of games and winning somehow yeah wait how come him cheating and [ __ ] donkey kong rooney's life whatever pac-man or whatever the [ __ ] he played but dream cheating in minecraft is in such a public position it doesn't [ __ ] dreams career well the difference is billy billy [ __ ] mitchell the only people that watch billy mitchell are 90 year old men who 14 year old why does billy mitchell look like he has like legal ads on the side of a bus man this guy's got the [ __ ] craziest appearance and also you gotta remember billy mitchell handled the scandal in the worst way possible possible immediately opting to sue the people who accused him so i mean he wasn't really winning over the crowd at first holy [ __ ] dream isn't suing anyone our children let's take a question are children allowed to legally sue anyone i know lester's you can sue children we talked about that yeah yeah we did it i love that fact how does it work the other way though can can an eight-year-old sue you yeah probably why not i i don't think so i don't think an eight-year-old could sue you'd have to probably get like the parents to sue on behalf of the eight-year-old right but i mean one of the parents are [ __ ] well when eight-year-olds aren't allowed to sign contracts or any kind of legal documentation until you're um like not a minor anymore right let's make it let's see let's find out let's make a threat to ryan's toys and see if his parents come after us on his behalf [ __ ] that they'll absolutely come up so what are you saying is you could go to an orphanage and like rob all of the children and they couldn't sue you or like make a police report are you going to take the only things orphans had from them i don't think they'll have the energy to sue after that i deserve a christmas jackson holy [ __ ] robbing an orphanage that is savage man also a crime you could probably get away with though like who would sue you like who would come after you i'm actually kind of curious i don't know the two i don't even know who runs an orphanage nuns yeah social workers churches right do they believe in suing wait i believe in suing i assume i assume all the orphans could get together and like perform a class-action lawsuit against you maybe if they if they're able to grip up if a ten-year-old if i rob a ten-year-old and an eight-year-old their ages together add up to 18 so they can sue me now successful internet creator robs children in the stream dude i had this dumbass idea for a tick tock and like i would i i could still do it but i wanted to parody everyone like bragging about drop shipping and just be like yeah first i start by you know finding cheap products to sell and then just like uh i said let me show you my [ __ ] my inventory and then i go into my garage and i have just have like child labor actively going on in my garage and i just end it there that's pretty good now you've spoiled it though now you can't make it show oh is that right i think it's just better as a something i said i don't think it's like cool to actually go and make yeah where are you gonna even find children to work in your garage an orphanage probably well that'll be sad i bet you're showing up to an orphanage who wants to make a tick tock like no i'm not here i'm just here to exploit you look at the camera what are you talking about man family vlogger's been doing that [ __ ] forever it's kosher no man that's fair yeah whatever happened to daddy of five oh hopefully he's in the [ __ ] dude weirdly i was looking that up like just the other day did you guys ever watch like like those those 30 minute videos that he had posted that like um that philly d had gone through like for the evidence for abuse like i i watched a couple they're [ __ ] yeah i personally had never watched them so i was like holy [ __ ] i i knew he was bad but that guy was bad yeah give us some examples because i haven't watched the event so the one i saw um and i think it was one of the core ones that phil defranco referenced but um so he goes into the child's room it was one of the children that was like the half child you know like it was like it was like his wife's child from another um or no oh it was his kids i don't know why my mind immediately went to like a like an orc or something yeah he was a he was a [ __ ] centaur no no it was a it was his kid from another marriage i think that's what it was yeah so he uh the kid's name was cody and he he goes into his room and he's like barking at him uh to something about the laundry and or clean up his toys and then he goes to clean up his toys and then the kids laundry is in the toy bin and he's just like barking at him like is that where the laundry goes put the laundry in the washing machine and he's just vlogging this like raw and i'm like dude this is crazy has no perception that this [ __ ] is really bad and then he goes downstairs and um he hands the camera to another kid and he's like you need to film i need to take this other kid to school and then uh the kid then films himself like basically bullying the half brother um and then like that dude just saw that as content and he was like yep upload like i don't know it was it was just pretty freaky okay so so he get he gave the kid the did he like direct the other kid to bully the kid or is it just a learned thing i think i think it was like a learned thing oh yeah no no he said he was like make sure cody isn't an idiot it was something like that and i'm just like god damn you know this is like very regular in their house so was it just one kid that was constantly belittled and bullied he was the main one yeah i the one i remember that stood out to me is uh like these were uns well i guess it was like scripted to the point where the people knew what they were gonna do to the kid but cody didn't know and i remember the mom and the dad went to cody's room and sprayed ink all over the floor yeah that's the one i remember yeah that's what i was gonna bring up and cody goes in there and they start yelling at him like what the [ __ ] is this you piece of [ __ ] holy what the [ __ ] is this and the kids is like breaking down and crying and they just very important their setup for it is they literally film themselves in the next room and they like have the phone on themselves and be like cody has no idea we're about to prank him this is gonna be so funny like they're like he has no idea what he's in for and it's like it's like such a crucial part to it like you do this to a 16 year old he gets it afterwards if you tell him it's a prank you're still a piece of [ __ ] but at least he'll understand it but a five-year-old you can you can even do it you know daddy yelled at him yeah you can even do it to a five-year-old if you if you like you're a nice [ __ ] decent human being about it like if you you drop ink in the room and you walk in you're like what happened did you make a mess what what it what happened like you could you could be silly about it but they literally walk in and they go what the [ __ ] did you do what is wrong with you you just killed your mother look at her corpse she's like on the floor finding a ketchup pack bleeding out her mouth season i wonder how far they would have gone oh man i'm surprised he didn't frame him for a murder where's cody now god damn it that was gonna be their next video before they went to jail the body was chalked out what'd you do cody we have the gun heavy up your fingerprints cody they have the [ __ ] police there they're like yeah we told him you killed him don't worry cody we confessed forward jesus christ yeah hopefully those people are [ __ ] in in some kind of like amazon gulag or something just doing labor i hope cody is okay i don't know if they put him in a orphanage where he's about to get robbed him and the other brother went to um i can't remember the other sibling but uh they went to their original mom i think that was the yeah they went they went to different custody environment i looked it up daddy 05 and the mom tried to create a subscription service where you would pay to watch the content but it violated their probation so they had to take it down but from what i can tell they're still like okay like they're still like out wait they're still oh then they're free people yeah yeah yeah they wanted to make like a snuff film subscription service yeah oh my god where do you watch child abuse childhood service jesus christ dude it's it's just it's 40 bucks a month i'll uh slap my child and traumatize it they also apparently started streaming gaming videos on twitch nice dude like right now like as of today uh i i it just says i'm reading their wikipedia and it's part of their like subscription thing so maybe probably not yes i'd say probably not what the [ __ ] yeah their their twitch channel has been deleted okay thank god they didn't just get like a good news 24-hour uh ban like how brainless can they be man where they're let's start a subscription service um that violates your probation what no you can't just drop kick your child no it's not legal sir but it's my child yeah i someone gave me 15 bucks for it i don't know what do you mean i'm free [ __ ] hell [ __ ] it's dark [ __ ] man yeah was that the only thing getting them through like their prison sentence is they just couldn't wait to get back they didn't go to prison unfortunately it doesn't look like god damn it bro they're uh um what was it the the way the guy i'm trying didn't they have like a catch phrase ugh i'm gonna go on a tangent with this nevermind it doesn't matter i want to know what the catchphrase is now i thought he had like some goofy phrase that he would use like to start the videos that no daddy no stop oh yeah that's his catchphrase there it is yeah the only thing worse than child abuse is when you upload it to millions of people and and you're proud of it yeah yeah you don't learn before someone in a you don't accept responsibility for it someone on our patreon chat is now saying that the guy is a soundcloud rapper no which is the next worst thing dude blink that let's listen yeah hold on i'm looking at you right now let's go he just lays lines over children screaming it's a whole new level of child abuse they put me in the slammer because of you what it looks like he goes by deadbolt 82. oh bruh oh lord that's edgy and he does stream what the [ __ ] yeah holy [ __ ] how long was he doing youtube for he's probably got no other discernible skills like he's built his whole life around youtube and the internet he doesn't know what to do now now that that child took it from him yeah now he has to get it all out on the tracks bro all that pain holy [ __ ] bro okay he got an album oh [ __ ] is it like you listen to the bona jams right now are they good um i'm about to oh yeah i you know i got to take a trip here hold on damn it can we can you give us a link i can't even find it actually mike martin but dead oh [ __ ] oh i might have something here boys do you think we could play on the show we get dmc we probably have the mca but we can at least hear it here here i'll all right yeah have you ever met like um like a monster can person outside of a gas station like what like i don't you mean like trash white trash he kind of you know like just like you know uh he i mean he has all the stereotypes like a brandless hat on his face and like smells like cigarettes drinks monster you know talks about like his dad's construction company and [ __ ] like that's what this music is it's the only way i can describe it here i got the link though i'm gonna drop it yeah drop it so just put in the chat the discussion yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah just put it in there go crazy guys okay um dude can we can we play this holy [ __ ] that that uh cover for 16 tracks what the [ __ ] what label picked him up who's paying him for this hey man it's like we said there's no label this is self-produced man he doesn't need a label it's self-propelled yeah so can we look at 12 inner demons that's what he nicknamed his son yeah six back off all capitals his 15th trackers don't get hurt oh nice 16 is i don't care anymore damn goodbye love myself tastes good features man he's got the whole lineup here [ __ ] martin's in the mix he seventh track has 250k listens oh [ __ ] he's pumping off okay we have to listen now um thanks for moving on guys this is this is a lot of fun thank you for coming on hell yeah yeah um it was a wild ride yeah that really took a turn at the end there um it was something yeah someone else has to close this out because i don't know what to say now yeah jackson you can take us out thanks again noelle it's always a pleasure man do you want to shout out your stuff noelle please oh yeah man you know i'm uh you know i'm a young and up-and-coming youtuber uh no um yeah i don't know man look me up i'm on a podcast tiny game podcast i make videos on youtube and i stream occasionally so whatever whatever my peak your interest man and i'm on tiktok hell yeah amen brother all righty thank you everyone for listening to the uh the podcast episode appreciate it yeah appreciate you listening uh appreciate you coming on noel thank you again anytime and we'll see everyone next time yeah happy new year bye bye bye everyone bye you

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Published: Thu Dec 31 2020

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Imagine having a legit funny person on, then let him speak for 30 seconds. Other than that, pretty good episode.