The Never Ever Mets Ep 3 "IDK About IRL" | Recap & Review w/ El Cid

okay sorry guys we're we're starting off laughing because of what else I'm so sorry I'm so sorry hey guys how you doing um forgive us for just like seeing us just cracking up for no reason apparently well we start this anyways we're here me and H said are here to do like and kind of funny side note when I was uh making this live earlier I was like is this episode two or three this is terrible like how am I fre gonna forget it's episode two or three already season's already barely started okay you know what Ela you take it off because apparently I can't I can't think straight this Saturday we both can't think straight I oh i' I've had I'm running on four hour sleep so um I was we were cracking up back there because when I am lack of sleep or hungry or something I to be a comedian so I am definitely ready for this um I knew it was episode three because like you I gotta write it on the top of my notes so I know what episode it is I just can't I I can't especially with a new show that I don't know anything about very true um hold on I'm kind kind of distracted at the moment let me um uh at least at least all the couples are still here at the end of the episode right I mean like I think Jay said it yesterday that at this point some other couple needs to go a couple people actually need to go to be quite honest yeah there quite a few who we voting off the island for Survivor I definitely vote Sienna often sorry Brandon you got to go M first Sienna and Brandon for for obvious reasons but for me second would be diamond and Aaron H so personally but and I'll get into why later but okay um I would do um Aaron J and Jody don't waste my time yeah I keep forgetting that y'all keep calling her Jodie and I'm like because she said to call her Jodie I'm like by your name damn it so sorry it's like I guess it's I'm I'm triggered because I have unique name and people need to say my damn name right uh because I'm like nobody like y'all need to stop calling me Adrian because it's not [ __ ] Adrian so sorry I kind of had to get that out because that Adrian okay [Laughter] Rocky yeah since I'm tired is going to be Rocky all through this okay than one I mean how you want to do this um I think I'm just doing um scene by scene yeah because I like yeah I don't think I can um yeah Jay had me last night jumping through my notes like okay what page was that what page age was that it was good though kept me on my toes so we started off rolling rolling across the bed at the intim intimacy um room Boom Boom Room did they say what I'm confused about though because I was like did they say that Shay and Josh were gonna go to there to the intimacy room cause I must have missed that because I don't remember that did just said they've been hold up in there okay I was like that happen I'm like yeah they they they moved into the room so they were they in there the last two days or something last two nights or something I I don't know because you know Greg is the timekeeper he keeps saying 72 hours so I don't know if that was that's the no well no in in Greg's offense he said the to to do to go to the to the Boom Boom Room for uh so that way Sienna can be quiet for the next like 72 hours or whatever so I mean put to work buy buy yourself 72 hours right that's that's what he said to be to be fair for him um so yeah um Greg Greg is a whole comedian I mean if not the the comedian version of uh uh oh God why am I blinking on his name uh the the I can't remember his name lra Jun yes Lenny kravis sorry I didn't know if that was what you were going for I said comedian comian like like I didn't even like have a bad night sleep and I'm like my mind's not all the way here apparently so you got you got my my um brain lag exactly exactly thank you Jay say so yes Lenny cids Lenny graits I was blinking on his name I don't know why how dare you Lenny kravit of all the names of blankon not that one ex exactly cuz I I even said that he's a good-looking man so I don't know why I'm blink on his name I'm I'm giving him I I thought you dubbed him Lenny kravis Jr I did and that's even worse I did so I can't I can't okay like the parents who forget their kids names or you have a or or if you want to say you have a parent who calls you by every your sibling every one of your other siblings names except your own my mom always did that growing up like like you do know my name right Mama CA like my name for a reason right anyway anyways uh so yeah we see Shay and Josh rolling about the boom boom Maron I'm going keep calling the boom because it ain't no damn intimacy to Sweet because H I don't know people getting intimate in there what you talking about not really and I'm get to that when we get to to Diamond and erant but not really okay so not in my opinion um how you doing this afternoon J Sayo how you doing hope you're I hope this evening or this afternoon is treating you well C see how I'm doing we are being a little loopy exactly maybe someone can actually be Lucid here instead of me and El anyway so uh Aaron and Diamond decide to want to sit Sienna and Brandon down and this go go completely completely sideways in my opinion was not fruitful as we see later on in the episode so was quick to say I don't want a third party all up in my business okay you sign a contract for a show the entire crew is in your business yeah I'm mean I was going to go somewhere and then I completely forgot in two seconds like that that's okay he said this is the most drama he's ever had in a relationship so I want to know how she presented in those phone calls in those video calls they had before uh that's a good question um I don't know I mean I think I think she did late because there there's a way I think there's a way for people to uh actually be attracted to how a person is physically by like a single picture Alone um but in motion they don't actually like the person like that physically and I have a sneaking suspicion that that is what happened here I don't know if that makes any sense but that's yeah it does brain is going um it makes sense it's just for me it's like you're doing video chats you know what the man looks like more importantly is not just you know talking on the phone you know like you know back in the day in the early parts of you know online dating without video telephones you know you'd have to just talk to the person it's not till you see them in person that you get to see them so I just want to know how is she how is this different so you're thinking she's lashing out because she's with him now physically and this ain't this ain't it yeah um I think so because that and I think because I I was I may have said this last night and I just I forgot or I was just thinking it and I um something about him is just or not no okay maybe not necessarily him sorry let me roll that back something in her past and maybe to maybe to even some extent maybe him um is that he had done previously that he she is triggered by and that we have seen because I Jay brought it up pretty well last night on her live um that something must have happened off camera that we don't see months months and months previous to this whole interaction that had to have happened because this whole thing is not making sense why she is going this hard this much on camera yeah this sound like she's triggered by something yeah this sounded like probably when Shea first heard that he was having a baby with a roommate that's the kind of energy it's given that's that's the kind of energy no you did not go get somebody else pregnant that's the kind of energy is given not you know I'm not attracted to you I don't really like you let's get this over with that's more you know Jo J Sayo said in the chat it sound like jod and Aaron is like okay we I ain't really feeling you but I'm not gonna be loud and disrespectful call you out your name and curse you out you know so I wonder what it was that happened but I'm guessing she never played the game you cannot speak unless you're holding this item in your hand well I mean even if she has I just don't think she would have can let him speak anyway because I don't I mean she's just obviously a type that if she she has has to get her her thoughts out and not um because she it seems like she's highly um um I don't want to keep saying trigger but she's she's highly volatile maybe um but it has to come from somewhere yeah she just she just she takes things I guess way very very very very personally I guess is what I'm trying to get at and she she's trying to make uh yeah Sienna J um she trying [Music] to so I I don't know something I mean I think so I said this in Jay's chat or chat last night that like um what did I say exactly but um she I can't even remember what exactly I said but I I kind of felt her a little bit when at the uh at some point um I think it was towards the end where I was uh uh kind of feeling like she's she's I don't even remember what I said I might have to go back into the the video and kind of look what I wrote look at what I wrote Because I can't remember exactly what I said I want to make sure I get it right so I can um actually say it right um but I feel like she's you know running herself ragged because she's like well we you know we don't have a communication problem and you know this it's like the man hasn't been able to say what the problem is that too that that's a that is what I definitely didn't like about her last night um I'm I'm not I'm not that way I just have a flare for the dramatic and it's like no it's not that's on the stage is a flare for the dramatic that is not you know yep yap yap yap yep and calling him out of his name that's not a flare for the dramatic that's disrespectful and see that's the thing Jay I don't think her age is Right personally I think that they're upselling her age for some reason I don't know why but it sounds because I think they're misconstruing I think Aaron H is actually younger than what they say his age is and I think she's younger than what they say her age is too because I maybe I'm just completely wrong but I I don't think that some of these ages are actually correct right shoot half the jobs aren't even correct and we don't even know what these people jobs are hey Delphin how you doing um yeah I don't know it's it's weird um but Diamond as a good question do you all like each [Laughter] other I mean that's a that's a very valid question I mean as much as I don't like her because I I just I don't like that she seems to be all in everybody's business I don't like it I mean I don't know if production is is making her do it or or asking her to do it but she seems very much too happy to do this and it I to me it feels like that I I mean I could be very wrong but it just to me it feels like you're very happy to do all this and just comes off comes off very icky to me and I don't like it and I wish you would CU she has her own Hol of problems too so I need to get up out everyone else's business and focus on your own please I just I I can't I don't and that I think that's why I'm having such a hard time really liking her is because of that because he seems like very disingenuous and I don't like it so you mean diamond with a Y yes down with a Y yes that's cor okay well I could understand that but you know focusing on everybody else's problems mean I don't have to focus on my problem um of you know what I got going on with Aaron H we um deline we are talking about when Sienna and Brandon we're talking to Diamond and Aaron H so what did you think cuz I had strong feelings last night what do you think when you know Sienna was asked to apologize or ask if she apologized to Brandon we know she's not gonna do that like at least not gonna come from the heart so we know that's not g to happen so we can just kind of move on right along because like that's never going to happen not the way not with how she set up currently so uh we can just skip on right past it's like the kids at school you got you gota be told to apologize but you just mad just mad um sorry I'm still trying to go through Jay's live see like what exactly I said what exactly you said about them yeah yeah cuz um and it might be just that the I know she went by a couple by couple I think so I'm like I'm trying to get um anyways uh what what uh what did happen next after that um um Greg and Aaron H were talking about jod and Aaron J yeah that outside and then um Jordan came out with his um seral and got attacked by the Bee yeah I I mean oh they Aaron Aaron H is messy and Petty or not Petty but he's messy he's messy boots as uh I I'm kind of channeling my inner Seaway with that so he's kind of messy boots and I think he I I feel like he's only doing he's only kind of really doing all that because of diamonds to be quite honest I'm sorry um I think I think that she's just she she's she seem she comes off as like a gossip queen kind of um and she's roping them into do that and which is even more so when they get into the Boom Room later so um I mean maybe he that's part of some of it's him too but I I just don't know I just don't think that he is mostly doing it himself with the whole um talking to somebody else about other couple about another couple so um thought of that whole situation but no I just think they have you know the two of them are just kind of like the narrators of the story you know um Aaron H and and diamond with a Y they just the narrators you know working through the [Music] room so after that was it [Music] um the dinner yeah it was dinner um as I said last night I'm glad uh um Brandon wore gloves because one thing I don't like is seeing people's hands I'll open my damn food so I don't care how much you wash your hands put on some freaking gloves please golly like I'm so sorry had to get that out I had to get that out yeah I'm with you I'm with you I didn't notice it I just automatically pulled back and like uh and left it alone but I should have you know I didn't have the time to pause and Rewind it but y'all say he was wearing gloves I I would agree with you and keep it pushing but one thing I would agree why I would say he would have been wearing gloves the whole time is that he was meticulous about that table he was meticulous I mean hello come on and you know having being raised and went to etiquette classes and learning how to pour you know and have a proper tea service at high tea time I can appreciate the um layout of his table he made sure everything was measured correctly all all you needed now was that that ruler to make sure everything was like in within a millimeter or whatever an inch of each other I'm like that cuz I remember seeing a show or a movie with where someone was doing that it was like he didn't need to because you could see it like if you looked at it um you know you could see you know even they show it to you with the um you know European flare when you look at it you have to look down the glasses to make sure all the glasses are lined up he was very meticulous he was very very meticulous and yes he did show a a great level of class Jay say so great level of class and it's something you know people be like okay it's a buff AG just go get get a piece of meat get some potatoes sit down he he did show and I'm going to Hazard a guess that he is about serving service and a great presentation well everyone is eating in the middle of dinner they start doing this diamond gets up and says we're going to do a game [Laughter] and Aaron H got to be in it with her like I you know you know how Chaz was always like I don't want to look like a silp that was not him you still had to call his name but that was not him saying that wait did I say Chaz I me I sorry I'm so sorry I meant I meant see this is what I'm saying like I I meant I met luron and I said someone else's name by accident I didn't mean to I I thought I said the right name so don't come for me please as say I beg I did not mean to I like but yeah he like I'm getting like he is if we're going to if we're going to say someone as a simp I would say Aon AG would be how he's like follow like he seems like a puppy dog going after diamonds that's what it's given to me kind of a little bit I don't I mean I don't know about anybody else so I mean is it is it wrong or bad for him to be you know but it's I also get like because we got the whole story line that um he posted a picture of a wedding ring or engagement ring for another woman right and on Facebook and supposedly they didn't really they didn't uh you know talk it out until they met up that's what we were presented with but I think they did there's no way no said supposedly because was like um but um I I think that he really kind of I the reason why I'm kind of saying that is I feel like he kind of I feel I get the feeling that he may have really just acest to whatever she said because he didn't really want to rock the boat it it could come off as that but you know for me it's like it's like when people would look at flip it and say if a woman is following you know everything that her gentleman tells her or suggest for her to do they would say she's being um submissive or being controlled Aaron H seems like he is quite happy to follow along with what Diamond you know has planned for me it's like the the words I don't like the the the simp or the other words because I'm like that gives me a connotation somebody's trying to take advantage of the other person they're making them look bad they're taking advantage there's no real feelings there and they're just being used so for me I was more like okay I don't see Diamond really using him right now so I wouldn't put him in that category right now but he just seems like a guy to like you know I'll you know go along to get along until I have a boundary that I need to set up and I guess I probably defer it because my grandfather was like that you know my grandmother will have all these great ideas and let's do this let's do this let's do this and he would just be like okay okay okay now when it was a time he didn't want to do something he would be like h no not happening not happening we ain't doing that so I that's why I kind of like look at it a little bit differently like it just it just ain't just ain't um for him to rock the boat right now it ain't important enough you could be right I I mean I'll try to keep that in mind cuz I'm like I I I just I I may have to look look at my thought about Diamond because I'm like I just really don't like her and so I need to kind of like take a step back for a minute because I'm like understood understood but don't don't judge him too harshly you know don't judge him too because then we could look at um Sadia a little harshly because she just going along with Chris well and his Madness true so just you know they are doing a they we didn't see actually see much of Chris and cindia this episode we talk them in episode but they didn't really talk they we didn't see them do much it's really so hard for the awkward moment coming up right um what else what else part of the game yeah um so they do the game and they're like they're they have to pick up pick a couple that they think fits this statement or I guess qu was it questions and statements or just qu or statements because I don't it's it's questions you know those in somebody in need of the the most romantic the one in need of couples therapy most dramatic the most in need of the intimacy sweets least compatible the most toxic who argues the most it was just for me GH it was like can I just eat can I just eat and sip my wine please please I don't I just want to be able to like enjoy my food enjoy enjoy being a little tipsy if I get to that point and that's about it I don't want to like I don't want to have to like worry about because I mean this this is kind of where I I get Joanna a little bit here because it's like why it it sounds messy trying to do all this and then I'm just like you're trying to stir some drama up and for what like I get it I mean I get that's the whole point of like reality TV but like I don't like like it feels unnecessary or intentional well they're trying to do what you know what they haven't gotten correct on ready to love yet because remember there were sometimes when Tommy would bring out a game and we'd be like oh my God that was a really good game that Tommy did and then other times it would be dang that game was boring what were they thinking so I think they haven't gotten the gist of it yet oh he so Jay they he Dom said that the checks were good when he say that in Cojo live interview um good is subjective to me but yeah right I mean like your good might be different from my good cuz my good is like $50,000 a check Personally Yours might be like a thousand I don't know I'm just expect I'm just throwing that out there just just for the sake of that but I mean good is subjective so I mean but so she she Dolphins at wondering if uh they're they're Brandon is still there contractural obligation um probably they probably told people they can't just walk out you know or they'll be fined or it'll be a reduction in their check so do life Mass right as Jay say so is 2500 a week but since he was only there for barely 72 hours how much of a check is he getting or are they paying them to keep quiet these past two years till the show drops I don't know do they get an additional stien for C and quiet so right I don't know sorry I I found my uh my comment on Jam's Channel write it down I'm trying to write it down but um and so I can get to it later but because I want to I want to get to it later when we get to the end but okay um anyways uh pretty much everyone votes for SK and Brandon pretty much most of the time um except for the uh one which one was it uh CU I wrote it down um uh was it uh the couple that needs to benefit from therapy uh Aaron H says Aaron Ellen or Aaron J and Joanna needs to need to go and she felt some type of way so that's where I I guess I kind of was was understanding kind of why or or like empathizing with her her a little bit because it's like it sound sound that sounded unnecessary because everyone else felt like C or who what um that Brandon and Sienna needed to go why exactly are you bringing up me when the whole point was to bring up the people who were voted most not as a side note so that's why I felt like it was messy and in so that's why that's why really like about it so that that's where I was kind of come from but I don't like the whole game thing I just made a few notes but I didn't like it it wasn't edited correctly it was not presented well to be enjoyable because it didn't even stay on the screen to see the points that everybody you know yeah it didn't it wasn't fast yeah yeah it wasn't it wasn't it wasn't done well you know it should have a it's it's not enough couples for you not to have maybe every couple is a color and you you lift your paddle for that color and say it's that couple you know yeah it's screaming that we're doing this the first time it's a pilot and we need to see if this is going to work so I yeah I mean then the host entered yep saying that um family and friends are gonna come visit the family is coming the family is coming [Laughter] saying the Brits are [Laughter] here well um yeah it's just yeah um we only saw F friends come so far I mean I don't know what it'll look like in the uh in next coming episodes but I mean we'll see Brandon had his friend Matt from since the third grade wow that's that's you know Quite a feat considering he he said he was a military child you know moving around you know to still have a friend from all those years back you know um yeah and and Dophin that that's that's a good point and something I would agree with if and and I just just to kind of play Devil's Advocate a tiny bit here I think the the reason why they had the friends come here is because in their mind I guess in their mind they might be thinking well even if they were together for like even 3 months that's still that that might still be a long enough time because they're they're still techn technically in a relationship so at this point meeting family might be a good thing even if they're just meeting for the first time because at this point you're supposed to be serious about each other supposedly um I don't know but uh not saying it's right but you know that might be what the the producers were thinking on that um but but it's a show too we only have so many weeks at this house yeah I definitely think that a million Greg are fake um I don't I mean they're living 30 minutes apart and never met until for for three years they didn't meet no like I understand you know if they live in different states and 30 minutes apart Greg or Millie scream to me like they are you know Po Folks who post on social media they're gonna drop their location at a restaurant or something I'mma Be rolling over there and looking I'll roll over there and see if we could meet up or interact for a little bit but yeah 30 minutes apart I don't unless you're traveling for business and you just can't see which way is is up you didn't make enough time for 30 minutes I know most people don't like a coffee date but we can't even meet for coffee or breakfast or I mean dag on it I could be running errands and we could do it together I did a coffee meet up one time with the guy I met off of Facebook dating once um I was I wasn't living where I was living now I mean I was still in the same state but I I I was living about 15 minutes North about 10 15 minutes north of where I am now and I just met up with him for coffee in the broad daylight so I mean and I think he was living either where I'm living now or uh in Austin because I'm close I'm closer to Austin now than I was before but um I think he was he made he just like moved to Austin or something and so I just met up with him for coffee I was like nothing came of it cuz I was like I didn't really think that he felt me like that and I did I wasn't really I was kind of going off the vibe that I was getting from him so I'm like I mean I wasn't there nothing really came of it after the fact but that's a good way to know is to see like kind of meet up or whatever and see what see what happens from there and so yeah it's it's also good to process of elimination because I am not staying talking to you for no nine three months and I don't know if we're compatible for me to continue to uh take up my time I'm not going to say wasted because I'm always going to learn something from you but for you to take up all my time you know when I could be making space for who truly should be here in my life right like a placeholder because three years is three times for each individual holiday to not have met up for like a holiday or something and how do I tell my friends and family I'm talking to somebody online for three years we ain't never met I just no that's that's what I'm saying I'm like I mean that's why I'm saying like this sounds like catfish like a a hand in catfish land so I mean I don't know but anyway where did we leave off at um Brandon's friend Matt is here they've known each other since the third grade Matt uh um and I stand corrected I said he had a comb over but Trey corrected me that he has a comb forward [Laughter] [Music] um and um Brandon said he's not going to give her his energy she went zero to 100 and he always says Never Say Never um I don't remember who brought this up either you or Jay last night but what was the point of having the friends and family come over if they were just going to talk to their respective yep people in their lives I mean what's the point coming of it so like what was the point like I don't get it but I mean it was complete waste because like especially with uh with um Sienna and her friend Gigi I thankfully you said it was a friend Gigi because I couldn't remember if they said friend or if it was like a sister or like a relative so I was like especially when when G was talking with Sienna I was like what in the world she was like she a I I made it a I I specifically made it a point to write down that Sienna wasn't even giving the entire story she was only giving her side I was like what's the point like if you're not gonna talk with Brandon about it then what was the point so anyway uh I I mean I don't know if I want to get into that part right now too but I mean um that's fine because you know I'm hoping that they did edit it out um I was hoping to see G's reaction to you know if this is how she has behaved before you know calling a man outside of his name is this something that the friends are used to you know I would have liked to have seen Gigi's reaction you know if she was more of the oh he needs to get over it oh he'll just go go get over it or did would she see it as a problem especially you know having met you know very new but you just told yeah we have arguments and he did this and he did this and it's like you know that's the difference with with friends because I'd sit here and listen to you and I'd be like okay okay Miss Innocent what did you contribute to this situation because just like you won't go popping off without a catalyst what did you do to create this situation as well what was your you know hand in it but then to tell her oh well you just have to experience the soul pole for and y'all could get back on track it's like nah no no no they need some fundamental foundational relationship things taken care of before they go to the Boom Boom Room I'm sorry ain't happening I personally I don't think they didn't need to together it at all but um now as a true friend saying now what did you do I mean I all that but we know you spicy like it's like I like what did you do I'm like and that and that tone of voice too which is I mean not saying that's a bad way to say it but like that I that's why I kind of laughed I was like it's like what did you do um and anyway but anyways um yeah I I mean I need more people around me to call me the [ __ ] out so I'm just gonna say like I definitely need that so I feel like I don't much appreciate it because I'm like I I know that sometimes i' be tripping like nobody's business and I just need a dose of reality sometimes um so I don't know in the midst of the friends visit um we had Shay and Josh sit down with diamond and Aaron H and again I get that production more than likely may have had a hands in um her doing this all sit down with them as well but again she just seems way too eager to to this because she's it seemed like she was sitting on the edge of her seat going like what's the tea like girl calm down please I need you to calm down I just don't get it oh my gosh is for me I liked how you know Shay did say yeah you want to spill a hot tea but I'm not gonna spill it and burn Josh with it we gonna talk but she kind of like yes this is what happened he didn't wait to tell me she gave the rundown D and we Ain you know we ain't gonna talk about this no more like I said last night it's like um when Diamond said he's going to be a good dad I'm like he's already a dad times two so he you should be like he is a good dad not going to be isn't he a dad already I mean like d what what what are y'all what are you talking about you know unless you're trying to spill some tea is is is this also a fake relationship and she already expecting I mean what are you trying to say he yeah I don't know I don't know sorry about that my as soon as I like was just finished talking like a car on outside I was like I put myself on M I was like because I'm sitting in my living room here and it's like literally I'm right next to a window and like it was yeah I so sorry I these people sometimes be just like raggedy and because usually get it pretty quick like in the first like two or three blers but then this one just kept going for like 30 seconds so I was like let me put myself on mute but anyway um yeah I don't I don't know I mean this is like just another instance of like where it she she exactly Jay she's given messy Vibes and she just she [Music] I mean perhaps she is trying not to think about her own issues and and focusing on everyone else's and I get that but I think it's just something in me is also feeling like this is just her personality or something I not I I'm gonna I'm not gonna say that for sure 100% but it just she she just is focused way too much on somebody else and I don't necessarily believe that it's simply because she just doesn't want to focus on her own issues um check I mean I I don't I mean maybe she is maybe there's something else that we don't know that about Aaron H that is really just um bothering her and we just don't know about it because maybe she feels like because it's such a negative thing it will look bad on her for sticking around with him for five years I don't know um that that's just pure speculation but I I mean there's also something just something about her energy that's just really offputting to me unfortunately and I just I I'm going to try I'm going to try my hardest to not really use that against her but I just I'm hoping that she gives us something else to kind of work with other than this because what I'm seeing Now is really not giving me much hope unfortunately right she's in everybody business but her own but she go she gonna be in the business later we don't know if she got the business later Jay we're gonna get to that we're gonna get to that we're GNA get to that I promise um um so Millie and Greg wi in the hot tub yes [Music] um oh well first diamond was talking to her daughter about Aon before we get to that we got to that um and her daughter does look like spinning image of her so I'm like I mean I don't and also I don't know how I feel about her kind of talking to her daughter about her romantic interests I mean I get it they're close but I'm not sure if they should be that close well how else is she going to tell her daughter if Aaron H is going to be in their lives because he will be a part of their life I mean I I that is a good point and I guess what I mean is is that it seems like it could get to the point where her Diamond might say too much about the relationship or I I'm not sure how I think what I'm I think what I'm hearing you saying is Diamond instead of a mother daughter relationship you're hearing like it's girlfriends she may tell her too much she may tell her the Brandon nail po polish that you know Aaron you know painted her toenails with when they were in the Boom Boom Room and yeah and that they might be she might he might have sucked her toes like it might it might be doing a like it might I'm hoping that's not the case but I'm I'm I I feel some I know sometimes it can get to that point with uh right parent child relationship whether it's a a father son father daughter mother son mother daughter type relationship it could get to it could get to friendships yeah and like I'm hoping it doesn't get to that point I'm hoping that it's just vague terms and that because I mean when when you're when I and unfortunately it could just get to that point if you're a single parent and I don't want that to be the case I'm hoping that's not the case maybe that's just me and my extremes and I need to just kind of Chuck that away I just I mean I'm hoping that I that that's what I was kind of getting in that scene and I'm I'm need to just kind of yeah and I understand that you know it did it did seem like she was heading in that direction to overshare with the daughter um you know but I think they you know kept it PG enough the daughter's grown too the daughter's grown mama's been probably crying a River when she saw that you know to the daughter so they've probably been you know her daughter's probably been a huge emotional support for her I asked you know does marriage mean anything I mean because he be he was slanging that ring out on Facebook I mean that's true that's what we're gonna have to look at him for at because it's I mean I don't know did he ever say that he was married before we never heard you know he's mentioned his um challenges in relationships before but I also the way she talked about you know when she showed up he was crying and the way she was talking about it I was like do you like his emotional reaction or did you like his tears I couldn't get a sense of what it was but something was ringing like is it that he shows his emotion or that you want to see this man cry like push his buttons to the point that you make him cry whether is you pushing his button so you can comfort him so then he is coming to you or dependent on you for Comfort not that she wants to be Sienna and tick him off to make him cry but you know more just like she's being a motherly matronly figure out here is she trying to do that too in her relationship I don't know that's a good point I mean yeah all right now we can get into Sienna and Greg or not Milli and Greg sorry I'm mixing up these people's names left right and Center sorry um but yeah Millian Greg in the hot tub and she's dodging his kisses like the Road Runner like she could she could turn into the Tasmanian devil Spin and just fly on out of there she would have so but um finally apparently aced and gave him a kiss even though she apparently didn't want to so I mean saying that it needs to feel organic and natural which I fall her for her um I don't I don't really blame for wanting to to feel natural maybe in that instance she just didn't really feel like it was so I'm gonna because I initially I was thinking it seemed like it was natural but maybe I just wasn't paying attention so I'm I'm just going to let her have that in in her thinking that you know if it's not really feeling all that natural to her then she has a right to feel like that um so like I was saying um before for ready to love with the whole Maya situation in the club if a guy was getting her number um I felt the same way with Millie here in the scene that we as young ladies have been taught and trained that it's much easier to just go along so you can then remove yourself from the situation rather than you know I don't want to say buck up but rather than push off and make a scene you know so I don't know based on how she was talking about it later with the girls it seems like she wasn't on that path but she kind of you know went along for Greg's sake it's like okay he wants a kiss let me just give him a kiss and oh he's still coming for a kiss oh my gosh I'm already wrapped up around him can't escape you know but there you know there are certain ways we can learn to deflect and for the Millies of the world sometimes the Gregs of the world or just a gentleman at all you need to be very clear about your boundaries she's just saying we got to take it slow we got to take it slow what does that mean he needs a list it's like listen I I am not com able kissing you if we can kiss please ask or if I initiate it that means I'm ready you have to be very very crystal clear you have to write a road map so that he isn't going in for a kiss and catching your cheek and then it's like oh I caught her on the wrong side you know or going in again and it's like damn I gotta kiss him you know it we got to be clear with each other we got to be clear so that you know there aren't pitfalls of him saying like yo I got a kiss and she's like oh my God y I had to kiss him and there were no Goosebumps and it was just night and day conversations uh are you do you think that the producers are giv creepy exercises yeah they are they are there are exercises they could do without being like this but the hot tub isn't an exercise y'all entered the hot tub yep together not saying you know she can't say no at any time but you know it wasn't it wasn't a creepy exercise for the producers um but yeah that whole com Sutra thing M there's other ways for intimacy every everybody could have been sitting there just looking at each other's eyes facing each other just you know holding hands there are different levels you could do without throwing Kamasutra in people's faces that's a little that's a little intense way of introducing the Boom Boom Room but um yeah I just it was shady though how they filmed it when Millie was like oh my God there's no Goosebumps and oh the kiss wasn't that great oh I had to give him a kiss and Greg is like oh we moving we moving I'm in there that to me was just too funny producers really played played both of them in that in that regard all right um what happened next Brandon with the drinks Brandon the mixologist so not only did you feed us you going give us L actually well did that happen for us did we see diamond and Aaron go to the boom first I didn't write down the um I wrote down that the drink the drink started first okay um Chris compliments um Brandon and jod about the drinks um Sandia gives a side eye okay and I said jod says you know that's right Chris you don't have to when chemistry is there you don't have to force it right okay because I didn't write that down because I was just like ah the only thing I wrote down was the fact that Aaron tried to ask for a sip of hers and she said no you're acting like a six year-old that's the only thing I wrote down so um I was like wait a minute did that happen first or the other thing happened first but yeah because I I don't know I mean maybe I'm just over some of like a lot of these people already I'm like I just don't write down parts that don't interest me I'm just like you know what if someone else gets it someone else gets it h anyways um yeah and maybe maybe Chris is is is Jo's type um in in the the the the sly F boy type or the not well he's not the sly F boy type I'm not gonna say that he he's the tell it to your face fway type and maybe she and I don't know if she heard that part but um because I I'm pretty sure most of the guys were there with Chris if uh if not all of them so um yeah it was it was um I so I don't know if she heard that but I obviously the energy that he's carrying is something that she I think she's used to and so that's why she's kind of gravitating towards him a lot and complimenting him a lot it's because of that so I mean Chris seems like if he and Sandia talks about this later and she talks about him flirting with Joanna he would and and he and he could be he would be the type to say what do you mean you were right there I ain't gonna be flirting with somebody in front of you we were just talking you were right there you saw everything I didn't do anything behind your back well well the caveat with that though is apparently like a lot of people think that a corious people tend to flirt a lot and and when we're really just talking to somebody and so that could be you know can like put on him too because I mean he it may be talking to you but in in sandia's eyes you're flirting with with Joanna so because Joanna got stars in her eyes uh I mean looking like she she two seconds away from dropping the panties or something I don't know but I just mixing his drink for him that too I mean whatever whatever floats about I mean yeah that that was that was like yeah every time pipe up for Chris pipe up for Chris now if they were longer standing in each of their relationships I would say that it's just a matter of the personalities getting along you know because I have I have another married couple friend where the husband and I have more of a rapport and our respective spouses are more you know reserved but again we just talking and entertaining it could be seen from the outside eye but we're both in long-term marriages that's a difference then these people who are deciding if to get in a relationship and it could look like you're looking to trade in right you know or pick a have a different draft choice like this the the I just thought of the ultimatum kind of experiment so yeah but Chris can't handle a a Jodie jod will be in the club looking for him and loud and embarrassing him when she finds him yeah because because Joanna is like a lesser more reserved person or reserved s Sienna kind of they both don't like their their the the people that came with so I mean Joanna is just more quiet like me about about a lot of things things so um and she she doesn't really get if you want to call it buck with people unless like you keep bringing up something that she doesn't like and then she's gonna say something right so I mean unlike Sienna who just does it off the bat so um I mean I can see that I could see that definitely I could definitely see that I don't know if I if I would classify Chris as a social butterfly I don't know I feel it's another term for him for or his type but um I wouldn't necessarily call a social butterfly I just think he likes to I don't even know like I think he just likes to um mess around and kind of find out but I don't know maybe I'm just he seems a social butterfly look look look at how he is you know Chris's equal opportunity with the compliments he you know thank Brandon and Sienna for the lovely meal he C you know was remembering what Greg said in the Kamasutra he was he is definitely uh I'mma pay everybody compliment I'm going to make sure everybody feel good I am The Master of Ceremonies you know so that's Chris so whether it's whether it's just to be nice to the crowd or whether it's for purposes you know to Mr Steal Your Girl we'll find out no see yeah no that what what I have pinned there is like I think he's more of like the it's just that he's the more like you you just said more mistress year girl and he's just more wanting to be that sexual F boy kind of thing and not he's not really he's only doing it for his benefit he's not really doing it because he enjoys being around other people I guess that's where I was where my mind was going is that so he doesn't get any credit for also complimenting the guys I think he's doing that because he want he truly thinks the that that's about these people I think he's doing it for his own benefit gotcha okay I could see that I can definitely agree with that that this is all a show you know Chris is putting on a show but it could also be misunderstood that Chris is like well he's being very nice to the guys too he complimented a lot of the men but he would look real bad if he was complimenting all them women I mean look just complimenting Joanna I mean right so for all the other women even just one is just bad so I mean she giving it right back hello and she doing what's the the kicker is she's doing it with both Sandia and Aaron in the middle of them like that's how you do it in dark arts that's how do it and and it's just like it's and he's literally like uh I think Jay brought this up yesterday last night he was just sitting up there just grinning and smiling like nothing was going on like nothing was transpiring I hope he's just looking like looking dumb just to just to make sure he doesn't like come off as being dumb but maybe that could be construed as well you're looking dumb anyway so why like why not you know we don't see him kind of stand up to her about that but maybe he didn't they just didn't air it or something I don't I mean but I don't know but again it would be a dark arts move you doing all that flirting right there in front of the other person your partner but they you know she doesn't see that she's very glaring everybody else is not noticing it um she doesn't know how to work the room and not be seen as working the room or working Chris over and you know just like Greg said earlier you know he likes that Millie is you know being a little it's a challenge he likes that he has to work for it Chris may be one of those as well you know it's like Joanna is just a little too available and her personality and her compliments because she seems like she's talking to Chris a lot more than she's talking to Aaron a Aaron J sorry so it's like okay you have to have some kind of connection you got to talk and I don't even see Joanna and Aaron J talking to each other yeah they're there I don't even know cuz I have a feeling she she realized she didn't like him like that well before um they came on the show hey Sean how you doing this afternoon um if you want to come up you can you can come up and have your say your peace I mean I don't I don't mind that I was actually talking to elid about uh uh having some some other people or one um want some other people to come up or she she suggested that to me and I was kind of thinking that and so if you want to come up I can I can I can invite you yeah just warn him that we getting up to the the foot rub yeah we're get yeah we're getting foot rub of it all so we're just we're getting towards the end here so I mean I don't mind if you come up and kind of say your pece if you want it but just let me know and I can send the send the link in the chat for you gotta warn him you gota you gotta let him know what he walking into pun intended talking about feet so diamond with a Y and Aaron h g Wiz not the cover s you're under the cover s hey you know seway be on the on the on the couch just lounging with her with her video off so you don't have to cam up if you don't want to uh I'm not like coj out there in these streets saying you have to come up with your with your camera on so if you want to be like like see what and just say your peace I don't mind that I really don't but if you really don't want to I'm not gonna I'm not GNA make you so T take take take the take the golden ticket and hold him to next week yeah I mean he said maybe next week he didn't say next week he said maybe so I mean that sounded like a weak m a weak golden ticket very week and I'm say save with some confidence say you said you were coming on next week [Music] well we have room for all different opinions Sean so we welcome your empathy but um so Aaron H Aaron is having Aaron H is having fun with diamond with a Y they um decide to kick Shan Josh out yeah see see and this is what I was saying earlier like why don't like her because she's out here when you're supposed to be doing intimate like building intimacy with your partner she's out here laying up on the bed while he's rubbing her feet talking about other people like why I don't get it ma'am like ma'am please it makes no sense to me like why you're out here talking about other people when you're trying to get to you don't I mean you don't even have to do the do you don't even have to be doing all that but to be growing intimacy with your partner what you decide to do is talk about somebody else and their problems how make that make some sense for me because a math is not mathing anywhere in this situation I'm G be right back you hold down for a second please so first of all diam was like Aaron you ready we got to go you ready I'll be right there there they are like such the old married couple um and to note that the that uh how can I say it gently to note that she is talking about other couples while he is there rubbing her feet she's focused elsewhere cuz what he was doing wasn't tickling her fancy it was just like sitting on a couch you know on a Saturday afternoon or napping with Sean and that we would we just chilling we just chilling and we just talking we going to talk about everybody else it could have been producer Le it could have been the producers kind of telling them well wrap up the day how do you think all the couples are doing you know talk about each couple do a line or two and you know Aaron is like while I just you know get her ready by rubbing her feet because the feet have been doing so much all day they talk about each of the couples I think it was producer lead or she just wasn't um there was no Goosebumps as um Millie was saying about her encounter with Greg there probably just no Goosebumps but the fact that own thought we needed to see more of their intimacy more than we have seen of sh and Josh who been holed up in that room since the beginning is just too much it's okay it's okay that you like feet you like her feet it does something for you I did not need to see how far down the rabbit went I didn't need to see that I didn't need to see H uhuh not at all leave that leave that behind the closed doors leave that under the curtain leave that I I was like okay you showed me that please be the end of it I do not need to see you go between the toese don't show me that but own decided we all needed to see how intimate Aaron H is with feet and how comfortable he is with feet I'm sorry um I don't need to know that see see now I should have known something was up I should have known I should have known when they kept show when they kept ping to showing him rubbing that lotion in her feet I should have know someone was a I should have known because that that that was a dead giveaway that was a dead whole dead giveaway and then they showed him sucking the toes getting in the crevices and her moaning too that's what I remember hearing it was like her kind of Moaning a little bit and I was like now y'all trifling y'all trifling as hell for showing this I'm sorry if I'm GNA get there if I'm if I'm going to have to if I'm going to have to say something that you're trifling as hell for doing that I could have gone my entire life without seeing that like I get it he's in the toes he we don't need to see a play bypl it's the same way we didn't need to see for all y'all who watch Martha's Vineyard we need we didn't need to see Preston with his butt hanging out a couple weeks ago thought you going to say something else I was I I don't know where I was gonna go with it but I was I definitely wanted to be PG about I was like we but yeah same way we didn't need to see that on MAR we didn't need to see this especially especially since Preston is in a committed relationship I just I'm traumatized y'all the F because the the I mean show I mean naked see seeing naked bodies on TV or or whatever is nothing new but I mean so I guess I really wasn't that I wasn't entirely bothered by seeing Preston but I mean I was to but it was the the I don't know what it was about the toe sucking I okay so so let let's let's unpack let's unpack because would we have a problem if this was her if these were her hands yes okay I don't want to be seeing I don't know I I don't know what it was like I get you're not a Voyer that's okay yeah I mean I don't I don't I don't okay because I don't mind doing the handh holding the the kissing and like the occasional kiss in in public I don't mind that but and I kind and and this is where I feel like I'm sounding like Sean here but I don't mind all that I just I don't want to see it I I almost turned off my my my my stream that's how bad it was I was like why I don't I was like what are we doing like we're building intimacy true that is true I will give you that even though I think you're being a little fous here but we don't need to actually see it right we didn't see anything with with Shay and Josh at all we don't need to see this so I'm just like and we we will well I I should say I I would assume that you know Josh and Shay are and we're not seeing anything we're not seeing anything me need you to get off we not seen anything but they are given a level of privacy that Aaron H and Diamond are not given oh I mean come on come on I mean I let them have some private time please I was entirely way too much I really was just like this is what we doing on like how did we get here how did we get here I don't get it I don't understand how we got here like I just like I think the part of my spirit died when I saw that not gonna lie because I'm like why do we need to see that like really I just I was just like I can't I can't with this I can't own but anyways um so so here's here's a question then let's let's keep it going so uh feet rubs are they acceptable yes I don't I mean I don't mind feet rubs I mean okay if you want to give me foot I I honestly I don't think I've ever had a foot rub before but I wouldn't mind get one so um there's a long I just I mean I think I think what my problem is is I'm I I kind I feel Jay though I felt Jay last night because she she was talking about how she's a dermaphil and I think my problem is is that my toes are going to be in your mouth and I don't know where I don't know where the hell your mouth been so I'm like please stop please stop and and can they talk or no talking while performing the foot rub oh they can talk all day long I don't care I mean we can talk about whatever you want um just as long as we ain't talking about somebody else's relationship while you giving me the the foot rubs I don't care but okay um we can do whatever you want as long as you give me a foot rub I don't care um it is it is interesting for me that you said I don't know where your mouth has been but not that he doesn't know where your feet have been I mean I I'll wash my feet before we do this if you want I don't mind doing that because I mean if you feel like if you feel like you don't trust my feet okay I get it I understand it I'll let you watch me wash my feet for you so that way you can give me put like put lotion on my feet and rub it in and all that but goggle first goggle first please garle first and like at least a good five minutes garle first that's all I ask someone said in the chat before where where where are your kisses going after the feat I know this turned all the way left guys I'm sorry this is this is what happens when when two people who who just don't care just talk so okay so so what what did you think about Joanna and Aaron Jay's conversation about a sip from her glass she was doing too much she was doing way too much unfortunately is it that most of the women are just doing too much no now she's she's calling Aaron j a six-year-old good it's not just the women it's just that the men are doing too much too because Chris is out here acting a whole fool talking about I can I can flirt with women if I want to cuz me and Sandy aren't in an exclusive relationship just it's just that they're acting up is sh up different than the wom so um but Joanna knew and we learned from the first episode that Aaron Jade does not drink so when he refused the drink or you know didn't want the Sipple have a whole glass was that not disrespect F to try and push him towards the alcohol when you know he doesn't drink and then to call him a six-year-old because you know he chooses not to indulge well wasn't he trying to act like drink some of her like maybe I'm not understand what you're saying because he was asking for a super Herz and was wasn't it right was so it was so it was it did have alcohol in it so but why I don't I I I don't understand where the the whole six-year-old bit came into play so maybe I'm just not understanding um I'm thinking it's like he wanted some he wanted something different and she wanted him to have you know a different amount in the glass and it's like come on now see the difference in this is you know to be a little bit gentler is let's say he wanted a sip or let's say he didn't know how much he wanted maybe it's not alcohol maybe it's some other kind of drink it's like you can either give him the glass or make another for yourself or make one for him it's not that it's not not that difficult but she just reared up and you are acting like a six-year-old wait a minute which is hilarious because the way she's acting is six-year oldish so I mean it's like look at the the pop calling the kettle black I mean but you know it I think it's just the I think it's the only reason why the women are are we're I guess we're talking about the wom Wars cuz they're it it's so obvious what they're doing and that is bad and it's not as covert like maybe say Greg um I feel like Greg is doing more covert stuff than anything but oh heck yeah um but I mean not obviously Chris is not being covert about anything because he's you know putting it all out there for everyone to hear um but yeah I mean it's just the men are just it's just showing up different for the men and it's just like it's not being on full display and obviously with Sienna she's the I mean out because other than Dom and Alexis um they they were the obvious problems first and then we're seeing Sienna be the second major problem here um and now Joanna's the third problem major problem because she's she's also being passive aggressive very obviously um in this moment so I mean it's just that the like I said the men are just not doing it like they're just not being like that I mean I mean we we haven't really seen Shay do much of anything problematic from what I can see um or or problematic and Josh is not being that problematic from what I can see other than the fact that he said you know uh I had a roommate she ended up falling on top of me and getting pregnant um so like and I mean other than that whole foolishness I mean we uh um we don't really [Music] see much of the men doing a whole bunch of anything it's really just unfortunately since the women are looking bad primarily so I mean and he's the one that was forgiven the easiest right like I don't I don't know um so Shay and Sienna talked about Brandon that's next right um well um sheay was sweeping up and Sienna said the problem is Brandon said he was bored she felt like it was a swipe at her and I say sh cosign his behavior and then Brandon comes in and she's like he's like can I you know join you she like I don't want to bore you oh Lord uh I will say that Shay seems like she's a girls girl and not and would willing to just go with whatever the women say rather than actually listen to both sides but um or maybe she's not a girls girl maybe so maybe I'll take that back maybe she's not a girls girl maybe she'll what she does is she tends to listen to one side first and then just believes that first without and it doesn't matter if it's coming from a guy first or a girl first but so because she she believed whatever Josh said about the whole roommate situation and forgave him so I will not say that she's a girl's girl will say that she believes whatever side comes are first so um that's what that's what kind want to say about that part but um as far as Sienna goes I need Miss ma'am to exit stage left um expeditiously and I need her [Music] to talk to someone anyone cuz I mean and she needss to do it for self cuz she can't be doing it for other people she needs to do it for herself like because she if you want to see your life in a certain way um if you want to see a certain outcome in your life then you need [Music] to talk to someone and figure out where you're going wrong um and to just kind of open up a little bit about why I'm in therapy um I kind of went in multifaceted a little bit because I felt like I didn't have much of a good relationship with some of my family members uh my close family members I should say because there's a difference between close and then the difference between like extended family so um and I also feel like I wasn't really getting the best outcome in Ro my romantic life either so I wanted to kind of go to therapy see like what I was doing wrong and look at myself and see where I like what I could work on in those areas and even like my friendship too like I felt like I was may have been going wrong in some of my friendships too so like it's not like it's just one aspect of my life and so but for her and I wanted to do that because I wanted to see better changes in my life that's what right she needs to do too um she needs to do it for herself not because she was either forced to do it like an addict might be forced to do it sometimes um by families and and friend or friends and family and um they need to do it because they they want to not because they felt like they were backed into a corner right so um just like how I felt with her apology she should do that you know of her own free will not be you know pushed by someone else to make that apology and then um and go ahead I was gonna say like and then she she brings up what did you bring to what did you say to Millie over and over and over again until she's yelling like literally yelling the that entire time and I'm and she not and this is what he's saying she kept interrupting him she this is what he was saying about how you never let me get anything out and um this is why he doesn't want to open up and like okay this is where I kind of need to get on Brandon a little bit like you see her doing this and yet you're still here I need you Brandon to get out of this because you see that she's not changing I need him to mean it because he saw this before the first the day before and he didn't I I guess he was hoping that maybe she he could he could see a change but at this point you know she's not going to change so I need you to stand on stand on business and get the hell out of there please or something to show a level of sympathy and understanding or empathy as Sean would say for Brandon um I think what it is is that Millie is not Millie sorry Sienna is rapid fire in her anger Brandon is I need to as he says later to Chris I need to process this I'm still going through it I need to process so while she's rapid fire he's like I'm processing this how do I say it to her how do we work through this he's at a slower Pace not the say it's a bad Pace it's just a slower pace and she just wants you to like let it out like she's letting it out and even if he says it she's not going to hear him because she's only hearing her volume she's loud she's doing this and I'm like I feel for I feel for the dude I feel for him because I'm like you're Gathering your thoughts to say it properly yet she's like on the third Point already and you can't speak and this is what I was gonna this is what I the the comment I was trying to find from Jay's Channel last night I was feeling like she's more like some something about Santa seems very very very very angry we and we don't know why um and it could not it doesn't necessarily have to be about Brandon and it could been because of something in her past um and whatever he's saying or however he's saying it or whatever he may have done is triggering that part of her from her past whether it's childhood or sometime in her uh adulthood before she met him whatever the case may be she she's triggered about that because he's angry about that and and that has never been resolved and then how she's displaying it is she pops off quickly very very quickly about it and then um it we're seeing it on our screens in real time um and she's even said she's done this like she oh I get did she say it or do I just get the feeling that she may have done this in her previous relationships that she brought up up um about how they say that what did she say she that they her previous relationships said that um she's she was a flip floper is that what she said last she's not consistent she's inconsistent okay that's okay just want to make sure I got that right so yeah so she um she she is even showing up like that and so I get the feeling she kind of Pops off she popped off in those relationships too because the them saying that for and she was triggered by whatever for whatever reason by that and then so um and I and I in that regard how I was feeling about that with her feel feeling like she was very very angry for whatever reason I guess I understood her if that's the case I understood her in that regard because I've always felt very very angry in when I was growing up for what had happened while I was growing up and it wasn't necessarily bad it was just that I was I always always moved around a lot and I didn't like that um because I was going through um a a little backstory on me I had scoliosis so I had to have corrector surgery for that and when I was 11 and so even before I had those surgeries I was always I always felt like it was mov moving around so I didn't realize it at the time but as in the last recent years um in like last like five maybe 10 years I realized I always felt angry and resentful about that um and the way I did that I showed up was in doing that was more like how I said earlier with uh Joanna where she kind of builds up her anger and just lets it out eventually and so that's kind of where I mean I may not you know get violent about thing about it but I definitely let Unleashed it um after a long time because it built and so so that's where kind of me and Sienna differ um but she needs to figure out why she's so angry because I get the I that's what that's the feeling I'm getting from her is that she's very very angry and she doesn't know why and we don't or we don't know why um maybe she doesn't even even know why she's angry either so um well you know thank you of course always for sharing um and for Sienna you know as you said she's lashing out or it's just a buildup and she's letting it all out um I'd like to know if this is her normal behavior pattern whether it be in relationships or in her friendships where does this show up cause we know she's not popping off at her boss like this so it is definitely for people she feel comfortable enough to unleash on it's okay to get your emotions out there's nothing wrong with telling Brandon you have hurt me by saying you're bored you have hurt me because you you laughed but you've got to have the room and the space to listen and you have to be able to speak in a good tone so that the person hears your words and not just your volume CU everybody's just hearing her volume right now in the house even with Brandon not being around she is still going off loud and clear from the room upstairs so the thing is that she needs to learn communication she's like we have no problem communicating it's okay you say a lot I would like them to try the what did you hear him say what did you hear her say so that things aren't Lost in Translation because you know my husband and I we've had to go through that because you know we were raised differently different areas different culture aspects and so things get lost in translation even though it's in English so you can't assume he's laughing because he's laughing at you and you're learning who he is this is a time for a lot of questions this is a lot of time this is the time for a lot of questions you should ask him hey you know why did you feel the need to say you were bored that really did hurt me and I feel you know like I'm like you're slipping away from me I'm sure anyone would hear that and be like dang okay this is why I said it I didn't like the exercise I felt we shouldn't have been doing this in front of everybody you could hear whatever he has to say and how he answers it also tells you a lot how he answers would tell you a lot but you've got to give him the room like Chris gave him the room downstairs to process and breathe take it in and then respond or else all he's hearing is what did you say about me you told her about me and she went automatically to the negative automatically she went you talked crap about me with Millie forgetting she walked into the room he saw her laying there in the bed he continued to talk to Millie and she could hear everything CU she's in the same room but it's like you were talking crap about me to Millie and you know the ironic part is Brandon had can can say the same thing about her um he could say the exact same thing about her because she did the she did the exact same thing exact same thing as she did she um she I mean I I really don't remember her going too much into detail about Brandon all that much but I mean I think Greg did more of the talking than Sienna but um in the end she still talked about Brandon to Greg so he cannot he can say the exact same thing I don't know if he did but he could have if he really wanted to and If he if she would have allowed him to get a word in edgewise I mean but yeah he couldn't get a word in he couldn't even say good night he couldn't even get his socks off the bed but he embarrassed her on national TV right she said he embarrassed her not her saying the B- word not her not telling the whole story to the friend but he embarrassed her okay Sienna likes to rewrite history she likes to rewrite what happened a revisionist yeah I don't I don't know how I'm not yelling that's also is like she's like she he's like you're can you stop yelling at me and she's like in proceeding to yell at him I'm not yelling it's like okay girl if you say so that's when you know she's off the deep end you know she she is in the ocean at this point that's how deep she's in she's she she di deep into she she's into the ocean she jumped off the div board into the ocean and in in deep water with the sharks cuz I don't and and then she and then and then what he does leave her alone which is a so I guess what something that she may have want seemed like she wanted she goes downstairs while he's talking to Shay Josh and was it I don't remember who the third person was eventually but there was like some other person and so while he's talking to all three of those people she goes downstairs and throws flowers at him or like what why like Miss Miss ma'am please please I beg of you to get some help cuz this clearly is not working not working at all um gray so he goes downstairs Brandon goes downstairs Chris is there Chris is complimenting him you know saying you know brand is a a good dude he's a good dude and um that's when Greg comes you know s and needs a man with more Edge is he is he putting in an application the way he he's been talking to her looks like he's putting in an application I don't know I mean with with Chris auditioning all woman to flirt with and get into a roster like Jackson I don't I don't even know um like may maybe half of these guys are are wanting like to audition people for for rosters or something I don't know but I mean you could be on to something and you know his um conflict resolution is um to get 72 hours a piece is the Boom Boom Room Greg yeah Greg that if that is your conflict resolution for your relationship Millie ain't the one um these people are weird I I mean the only same ones seem to be Shay and Josh and they even have problems I'm like y'all just please [ __ ] on yourselves I beg of you I don't get it Aaron H did call Sienna a bully well that's cuz she is he wants wrong about that um but she kept on saying what is that you know when he said I'd rather keep it private rather not talk about it um she's like what is that doing for me how is that helping me like but it's helping you because it's helping him he's trying to navigate communicating with you someone else is giving him feedback and if he learns from someone else then that would increase your commun unication with him so it's helping you in a way you don't may not need to know details you may have to watch it and say Hey you know there are some things I hope you are not sharing um like XYZ but if this is the guidance you need for us to continue so be it well the reason why they keep trying to use that wom room is because they nasty you answer your own question cu oh my God so I just want sorry I just wanted to kind of uh point that out forry we did talk about the cleaning rotation but Brandon Brandon did say he's shaking up and he's still processing but he did also say he was done when she called him out of his name he was done I mean I hope so I hope so cuz he needs to get out ASAP but he's also one of the other guy the only other guy I feel like is like Aaron H where he's running behind the woman that he's with unfortunately I get that vibe from him um so I'm not sure you know because I don't remember much outside of the preview next week except where Joanna was tell off Diamond about how she's all up in her business uh like that um that's the only part I remember unfortunately so I mean I don't know if he's really going to call it quits and get up out of there yeah CA um I wanted to ask Shay she said you know Sienna's hard around the edges but Brandon holds grudges I don't know what she means by that is it that he's not quick to forgive so he holds grudges or has he presented something else where I mean they've only been in the house for 72 hours how do you know he holds grudges but you know as um as deline said in the chat you know with shab and with Josh for 12 years her judgment you know we aren't you know sold on that that yeah no so so while they're comforting Brandon and he's trying to finally speak because there's a room of people who are willing to listen Sienna walks into the room and throws the flowers across the room at him and it hits him on the knee I said that's assault I said she need to be kicked out like Dom was I don't think they will though I don't think so either but it it's it's DV she need to be gone I mean I think the only thing that would have made her get be sent out is if she threw that pot that Alexis was carrying on episode two you mean the whole vase that the flowers were in if she if she threw it and it broke in front of him oh yeah well something anything that would have caused some bleeding I don't I mean if she had thrown that like something that could cause bleeding on him but D didn't cause any bleeding but they could see that it was going to could very well get to that point because I mean they were all up in each other's spaces what so what I'm getting at is like um that I mean unless she was doing all that where she was like you know either actually through something that could physically hurt him or threatening it threatening it in a way that she would do that then I don't think she's going to go I don't think she's going to go either I think the show is going to keep her but I don't see how anyone would look at that and think she won't escalate she did not soothe herself in the room she had all the time he was not there he was downstairs talking to other people she was riling herself up and she picked up the flowers came downstairs and threw it at him yes them hand and paws are next yeah because that that I mean it's gon escalate because at least she didn't walk in there and beat him over the head with the flowers cuz I could have seen that uh so she thought you know and I've seen this I'm not going to you know put a a demographic on it you know throw stuff in the air and see if it falls and hits you but it to me it was startling you're calling this man all kinds of things and you're saying he's embarrassing you on National Television yet you are the one doing all these things she probably did one like she probably did because I think it's that push and pull that Cojo has been talking about so I don't know I mean well be interesting to hear him talk about the mirror with these two I don't know I mean I could see it but it'll be interesting to hear his perspective of the mirror with these two people but yes a cry for attention she want him to follow she wanted him to come around yeah I hate to say it too but yeah that is not the way to build a healthy longlasting relationship is to fight you could fight together yeah you could have little squabbles or whatever keep the keep the blood flowing but this nah you hey JR how you doing we were actually uh uh talking about you earlier I mean were your ears burning or something cuz we we definitely were thinking about you earlier before the live started so now you gotta tell him now you gotta tell [Laughter] him you started come on say it uhuh uhuh don't I literally took a sip no J we didn't actually say anything on live we talked about it before he came on live but you brought it on live you brought it on live you got to say it you brought it say it I we were just talking about how like coo uh you you uh ukuk folks like um are like hours ahead of us so it's just like because I didn't even know that you you got that youjr went on live uh so late so I I El brought that up so I was like but that that's Bas what we're talking about it wasn't any it wasn't anything nefarious I promise I promise it's actually she stated we were talking about the time zone differences and how late you guys stay up to accommodate our you know American time zone and we appreciate it I'm just putting her on blast a little bit I'm just putting her on blast and say you bring you bring it to the family we got to tell it all St she's on one today cuz she didn't get much sleep last night so I've always been I've always been on one I am not afraid to say anything in private I can't say it in your face we gonna say it we're we're both a little loopy I I got some sleep last night it's just I've been I'm a little loopy today too so I'm not gonna lie like so I mean y'all she telling all the private ch you know what deline you know [Laughter] what well we will what you'll always get with us is levity and a laugh don't take this too seriously it is an edited produced show with a cast of characters and we gonna laugh about it but yeah I'm sorry I stand strongly on Sienna needs to be removed from the show and by default Brandon needs to go home I'm sorry she need to go she she does I just I don't have any faith that they're gonna do it I mean maybe they will considering that with the whole uh uh Alexis and Dom situation happened but the only reason I'm not having any F because it wasn't so volatile like they were literally getting up in each other's faces like Domino alexes were so I mean I mean unless Brandon says verbatim I don't feel safe because she threw something at me even if it's just flowers I don't think that they're going to do anything unfortunately and that's my problem why does he have to say I feel unsafe I mean if Brandon picked up the flowers he got her and and threw it at her and it hit her what were we saying what what were we be saying this man is a troublemaker this man is you know doing DV he needs to be gone you said a president when you did it with dom you had him stay at a hotel and apologize the next day yeah have to like J said he shouldn't have to but unfortunately even with like women making complaints they they don't the you see all or hear all the time how cops don't really can do much unless something physical happens and I mean yeah in a way it kind of touched like it it from what I remember it only like raised his foot or his his it hit him in the knee it hit him on the knee and dropped okay I I I I guess I I missed that then because I don't I thought only kind of like Grace is like foot or something and it maybe I'm hyper sensitive maybe I'm hyper sensitive because if she can throw flowers she can throw something heavier and and no I agree with that if she if she can do one she can do the other very easily because I mean you start that how she only started verbally and and this is over the course of literally two days or a a day it's not even over the course of like like weeks or months so she can go easily from saying something calling him out of his name and then and then you know getting heightened in her tone about something about whatever the next day and then not even minutes later going to throwing something at him towards or at least towards his Direction even if it didn't necessarily hit him per se then she can it can go even further and he she can snack inside the back of his head or something throw a shoe she could throw she could throw anything that's within her reach she came from the bedroom she picked up the Roses she walked down the stairs she she came to the living room she had you know when you when you're looking at all these cases or when you're looking at cases you know in the court system they walk you through it she had time to change she had time to you know how did they say redirect but she didn't she followed all the way through and bounced in front of witnesses then there is nothing this woman would not do she feels emboldened there are people around they are watching her they are watching her throw this and it's like even as another woman I wouldn't feel safe even getting an argument with her she'll get physical I mean she basically has it's just that I mean it wasn't necessarily throwing punches um so I mean yes deline it can be seen as premeditated um because she had all this time she actually had to sit there and think and then she picked up the flowers and went with it she thought enough not to bring the vase she thought enough not to pick up the vase and bring that to throw it at him so yeah she knows what she's doing and it's not cute so we go from Dom to Sienna sorry so to kind of bring some levity into this did you come back from your nap Sean talk about s from the Block sorry sorry I kind of had to bring some laughter here sorry little too I need to bring some laughter back for a second I had to do it I had to do it sorry Sean rolled over and said oh they still there okay let me let me put a let me put a note in the chat or did he go to did he go um to Jay's live and copy paste I mean what we doing but yes no I I definitely definitely agree she it's really only going to get worse and I just I just I I really I I watch too much SVU or at least reruns of SVU because I don't really watch the new seasons anymore um I watch too many reruns of SVU and and stuff like Criminal Minds to to have that much faith in them doing much at least not quickly um despite what we saw in the first two episodes so but no this is definitely um you know never ever Mets is talking about what never ever to do to your significant other when you do meet and a you know including don't be rubbing feet on camera no see no cuz what we're not going to do we not going to do that I told you I don't care about the rubbing of the feet on the screen it was when he slobbered all over her feet that was an issue for me okay I couldn't I can't do it I can't do it so let's get it straight let's get it straight oh that is too funny yeah I I had to get a rise out of you I had to but we will we will be I guess through this show we will be exploring Intimacy in many ways oh God Jr not saying that I'm not saying [Laughter] [Music] that oh I could go down that rabbit hole with him but I'mma leave it alone J are I leave it alone he got me crying over here Jr I can't with you I can't so I guess a woman finally understands how y'all feel but I'll leave it right there leave right [Laughter] there and Jay say so exactly because the only reason why I know about this hando foot mouth disease is because my um my younger brother and sisters they're the triplets and they got it a few years ago uh when they went to uh daycare for the first time um and they they ended up getting it and they they're fine now obviously but um that's the that this is exactly why I said freaking gargle for five minutes straight because what we're not about to do is do that cuz I'll let you see me wash my feet for you just as long as I see you goggle for five minutes so thank you I'm just saying okay so now Jay what Jr what did I say you're gonna have to go get off if you're gonna be going there now we have to we have to be open to people expressing themselves we cannot be Sienna and and shutting people off that they cannot communicate and talk I apologize they are I apologize but at least Le behave a little bit at least behave a little bit that's all they are if if the toes are curling then he getting scratches in the mouth that's all I'm saying okay well and this turned into after dark times even though it's 2 2:49 in the afternoon for me right now okay it's still bright as I'll get out cloudy it's still bright and we're talking about this this is this is how we go this is how we like hey and this is tame this is tame this is tame this is only on water and lack and lack of a lot of sleep but this is tame Arad this is tame for me so I don't know about that but I'll let I'll let you live at that livee for now if you want to it is tame because there's so much I could say going down that rabbit hole with JR but I'mma leave it there I'mma leave it there I so badly want to tell go to bed Jr but I'mma let you live for now I'mma let you live for now with that um so who's who's next on the roster to be in the Boom Boom Room none of them hopefully J to the corner yeah yeah to the corner there we go I can say how I'll I'll steal that Jason say so like do the corner please well we know that the corner or facing the wall has psychological damages on kids now yeah now we got to let him Express himself he can he can say his peace from the corner but he can and and while you're not feeling comfortable I'm so Sean is empathetic see see Sean this is why I said last night on Jay's live um and I and I and and I specifically highlighted Elsa that they need to bring Mr Monk into sanitizing that room if you don't know who Mr Monk Is go look at him go look him up because he will clean it for you or he will at least pay for a cleaning service to come clean it up for you because there's an a specific episode where he hired a cleaning crew to help to clean up some someplace I can't remember which one it is at the moment but yes um anyway yeah think yeah they need to sanitize it like like like industrial grade sanitizer to to go in that room okay if y'all think that'll work y'all think that'll work yeah I mean I would I I don't know about hospital grade stuff because I mean I I've be hearing horror stories about how people get sick even in hospitals so I don't even know if I want to say uh I don't even want to say hospital grade that's why I said industrial grade because I mean let's just incinerate the room and start all over yes that's better not the cosign arson at all I said incinerate does not mean burn down it's the definition is different Sean we need to come up with your definitions come on so we can get the definition H anyways anyways any other thoughts no I'm eag get to see next week but if um Sienna is there next week I will you know be protesting the fact that she is still there and I will be right there with you because baby girl please stop I need you to stop I don't get it I don't I mean I don't clearly people are around there are people around her that are enabling enabling her her her crap because if they weren't I don't think she would be this far gone oh okay I won't say this far God because that sounds terrible but like she's incapable of changing but if she's doing all this then yeah I she she needs serious serious help so I agree I agree so join us again next week I promise I'll try to be more lucid and not mix up people's names um I promise I can't guarantee anything but I promise to because it was the struggle of us with people's names today I'm not going to make any [Laughter] promises with that I will see you guys next week pray for me y'all because I need it oh

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