The MGS 2019 Golf Ball Test

just to back up a little bit and let everybody know if you haven't seen the golf ball test going to my golf spy it's on the homepage it's been and is our most impactful study that we've done not from the in regards to how much time it took to do the test their tests here that take 2-3 months but in the value that this test provides for golfers and I'll just start by going around and asked and Harry after this got published well first before I got published did you think that this would be that big of a deal I initially thought we could fur throw a blanket over the balls when they were hitting in the robot literature story was gonna be like that you know yeah thought a robot was gameplay exactly yeah so Sam was saying that earlier he said that you know even he as a great golfer and you as a great golfer you guys knew like little things like this ball was better on the green but you didn't know you thought the chrome soft was a good ball you said you know yeah I mean to your point I try all different balls all the time the new Probie ones for me go a lot lower that's the idea for that I was pretty cool but then the other balls I try out they're all kind of like the same that's what I kind of the consensus is and then I'm told that these balls are good by all the marketing in the industry and I I just figured towards and I didn't even know the currents off was bad until you know we started talking about it and and I've heard so we put it to the test yeah so a few things to back up a little bit again over a quarter million people have seen this ball study which is a large amount of golfers and we want to reach more because of how powerful this is and why it's powerful and I think one of the reasons is because one there are companies that have this data meaning there are ball companies that have done these tests and done these studies the difference is no one has ever shared this data with any golfer so for the very first time ever I mean you guys have seen driver tests you've seen iron clutter tests YouTube reviews but for all kinds of products but you've never seen a comprehensive study done on golf balls other than let's say I think Golf Digest does like a 50-yard wedge test which is not comprehensive in the even it's not even that helpful to be honest so this gives people real powerful data to where they can make decisions based on their game and choose a ball and once again there are people that had this info they just had never shared this info and to be honest with you there was a lot of misleading misinformation folklore mythology that went into and we're surrounding golf balls and this kind of cut through the and tells people what's real and what's true and that being said we're gonna actually call to Tony Covey in New York and drink Tony in because what we want to do we want to start by talking about how we went about doing the test so if you're a my golf spy reader I don't want to get too technical and too boring but there's a lot of debate like robots not robots just we want to put this out there we use the robot for ball testing because that is the best way to do pol testing we also use the track man and concert with that for club testing the best way to do that is with human testers and we use human testers for clubs performance and robots to determine the performance of golf balls and Tony is in New York and you I think Tony's live now with us Tony how you doing today I get by you're getting by thank you bye so Tony is probably being bombarded right now on Twitter as we speak with a lot of questions and comments about how we did the test why we did this so Tony can you just start by when you and I first decided we're gonna do a golf ball test and tell people why we wanted to do it and then why we chose to do it the way we did well I guess yes I guess the reason we did it was certainly curiosity was a big part of it right because we as much as we've been doing Club studies Club test for the last going on ten years now right we've never done a comprehensive ball test and we've gotten a lot of questions a lot of requests from readers like hey when are you gonna do a big ball test and like you know we we've laid that out and I mean I guess you know that's one thing nobody probably is too aware of is how much thinking and planning goes into to a test like alright how do we do this what's the rap a way to do it what's the right toolset right what's toolset meaning you know robot versus humans tracking versus foresight that sort of thing so the reason behind it was our readers wanted it ton of planning went into it and part of that planning - is taking our assumptions like what do we know what if we learned to date and then and going to the going to the guys on the inside of the industry and say all right here's what we're thinking here's what we want to do how do we do this what do we need to do and and we get a lot of a lot of guidance that way and then we we have to work in the individual challenges that we have a good example right we tested 36 golf-ball all right nobody does that because if you're a Titleist if you're a Calloway if you're if you're one of the big guys here you're not worried about a cut or probably even a vice-like those guys really really aren't a big threat to your business so those type of balls don't get routinely included and test let alone you know again 36 others so sorry so we wanted you to do the test because one golfers deserve that information we are the people that tell you we're wanting to do that for consumers right consumer first so we waited until we had the knowledge base and knew how to do it correctly the reason why we haven't done it in 10 years is because it took us 10 years of knowledge and learning to figure out how to do this properly and we didn't want to do it right until we knew how to do it right right so now that we chose to do it and we knew that we could do it right what were the experts telling us one of the biggest questions we've got is why did you choose 115 and 85 miles an hour on a robot when you did your test so this one I this one has probably come up hundred times already and I think a pro probably answered it 30 times in the comment section but yeah I think one of the the big misunderstanding is that sort of golf balls do different things at different speeds right and so what we were told early on to expect when we were kind of working with with the guys on the inside industry is that there's not a huge kind of shift and you don't see numbers move up and down and so by choosing 85 and 115 what essentially we did was choose the end points right so at about 85 miles an hour driver driver swing speed driver swing speed equivalent you start to see real differences emerging golf balls right that's where we start to see you know nevermind the ends but even kind of in the middle you see a few yards between balls right and then in 115 now you're getting two more of extreme end where those differences are amplified and you really start to see kind of separation between models and so if you connect the dots between 85 and 115 you get a nice little slope where you can predict where ball is gonna gonna fall for any performance metrics so you know if you're looking at for example spin number well if you if you look at what that ball does spin at 85 there it goes we knew that was gonna happen so 85 and how it spins at 115 that midpoint is gonna give you a really good idea so let's just clear that up for everybody everybody that's listen we totally understand and respect the fact that you swing 100 and 2.7 and you want to know that number right what is the best ball we get that but you have to understand that that's really tough to do right now with where we are what we can tell you is there are major differences in golf ball performance we tested them at the polls the way that we when we consulted with the experts in the industry the best way to do it at 85 and 115 and then obviously 7-iron and wedge but for the polls on the driver you can draw a line basically between those two and if you're in that line somewhere it's going to be relative to where those were at 85 and 115 so I understand all the arguing in the comment session but I would like to move forward from that because that's taking away from the actual value that we want you guys to understand and that is starting with number one the major takeaway in my opinion are these six things and there's other ones for sure but the first one is holy golf ball fitting is the future of golf and here's why if I told you that all the years of testing that we've done that the golf ball had more differences from product to product than the drivers we test inside this facility day in weekend week out year in year out I don't think there would have been a single person if we polled them before this test published that would have said hell yeah the ball is more important than the driver yeah I had no idea that was my biggest takeaway from the test was that I had no idea there was that much differences between the golf balls yeah so let's talk about that crazy almost 18 yards of difference on a high swing speed from worst to first and Tony which brought this one to my attention which I didn't see first said let's look at the longest ball in the test versus the shortest single ball test 40 40 40 yards Tony I think just under that yeah 38 39 somewhere that ballpark all right certainly certainly well within holy-shit distance yeah so eight let's just go back there to eliminate the 40 yard holy yeah right and go alright let's deal with the 18 yards which is real right if I told you that I could give you 18 yards with a golf ball you wouldn't believe it but if you did believe that you'd go well let's go get fit for a guy because it's a hell of a lot cheaper to buy a $30 $40 girls of God well then it is a $500 driver in 2019 right so golf ball fitting should become a major and integral part of industry if the industry wants to help golfers maximize their potential with the talent raw talent that they're given right new we think that the industry wants to do that well I think I think so if you look at it right so Bridgestone has a new and expanded fitting program I just went back and forth with a lot of guys over there and Bridgestone is certainly a company that has from time to time recommended that somebody who comes in with the competitors balls stay with that ball so it's not it's not entirely brand agnostic but they will sort of you know they're willing to suggest you stay with what you have Titleist will do ball fittings obviously I'm told tricks on those ball fittings but I think where we really need to get you to the point where the brand agnostic Club fitters your cool clubs your tru-spec so those kind of guys who who sell the whole complement of you know just about every brand also integrate ball fitting as a part of what they do yes so you're not tied to you but what well basically there's two different types of fitting there's one from green to T and then teed to green like look other day it's been suggested by a lot of people in the golf ball industry rightfully so that you should be fit when you do your fitting you should do it from the green back to the tee correct I said that yeah awesome great right now tell me how many people out of a hundred can go to a course let's drop 20 balls in front of a green and then work their way back without a ranger going get your ass off the hole move right if you buy a bowling online you can't you have to do everything you said that's not realistic there needs to be people that's the perfect way to do it yeah I agree but once again you have to have enough data let's say you hit three balls bad and you're blaming it on the ball and it was your swing for those three up there needs to be true golf it's four balls there needs to be Club champion four balls which they do but they need to do even more everybody needs to go in and go I want to be fit for a ball so this is gonna be for the consumer to demand of the industry to do and then you will start to see I think the biggest takeaway and the biggest impact this test will have on the industry when we look back and ten years from now our oldest hell between me and Tony and look back and go what did this test mean I think we're gonna look back and go you see all those stores with ball fittings and everyone them this test had something to do with that and I think there's a good reason for it to happen yeah so golf ball fitting is the future and I think the next one is all golf balls are not the same believe it or not and I don't want to throw people under the bus but there were people really high up in the industry that used to tell us that all golf balls perform the same no tool not nearly enough and even Tony to some degree probably thought there was only I think when we talked five to eight yards and he's right for the average guy yeah but for a high swing speed golfer it's much different and we know distances and everything but if distance is being affected by 18 yards guess what else is beautiful exactly everything that's been watching decision shot a shot area everything okay these are paper airplanes they're designed differently and they fly differently right you have to find the right ones and so all golf balls are not the same and Tony I'll lead you into that one meaning yes we know now that all golf balls aren't the same in regards to distance and spin we told you there was 18 yards difference from yard from long as the shortest there was 1500 or so spend difference on wedge which is a lot and then Tony yeah what were the differences from ball to ball brand a brand box-to-box in regards to quality control consistency that would blow people's minds you know you know it's you know it's tough to pinpoint exactly you can't and say oh you can expect this much but you know you sort of expect right and at least I think most people would expect that you have a robot that is extremely reliable right very very slight differences in the way the golf club is delivered and so that you would expect that when when you're you know certainly by the time you're into 7-iron distance that these balls are gonna rain down and pretty close pretty close to exactly the same spot every time and I remember the we did the high-speed portion of our iron chest we were chasing daylight and Matt and I were literally standing downrange in the area the balls were landing and it was crazy you'd see one come in and it would land you know pick a spot right and and we did what we do with drivers where we were rotating balls after every shot and cycling back around and around and around and around and it would be crazy to see one come in we'll be like oh well that was a you know whatever it happened to be and then the next one would land you know five yards shorter and ten yards more to the left and you're like well yeah that's a shocking moment first a guy that's been in the industry ten years one of the smartest guys I know about golf equipment performers to go why is that ball landing where it is that was an eye-opening moment but so was the fact that I can guarantee that pretty much everybody in the world that buys golf balls by the dozens expects that when they buy a dozen golf balls those twelve balls are the same right yeah that's not reality we found that there's there in that 12 not only are they all different but one of the biggest differences is the bigger companies are probably I don't know if you would agree with the statement but would you say that the bigger companies Titleist Bridgestone Strix on probably being the top three maybe if you want to add in a couple more you can they have it they showed advantages in the consistency area from ball to ball meaning similar most similar compressions similar quality control not balls going down and all sudden flying 40 yards left which was due to inconsistent core centering or you know there are a few things but yeah I mean it definitely due to something not right with every single ball kind of situation but when you bought a dozen golf balls before when you did this test well before you started working for my gosh by did you assume that those twelve balls were pretty much the same yeah in fact look I'm not gonna I'm not gonna throw a brand under the bus here and get get my PR guy in trouble but I had a conversation not long ago with a peer PR guy and talking ball quality and it was like yeah you know in in ours we find that maybe maybe two or three or are not perfectly absolutely perfectly round and that's significantly better than a lot of our competitors do you think that's the case do you think it's to do with cotton corners or do you think it's I think there's a few things every product that's made has tolerances right yes and I was thinking about the other day Titleist in these companies have and I don't even know if this is true I was trying to think of why maybe some of the smaller companies wouldn't it's cheaper right because if you're throwing away balls that don't pass QC checks yeah those balls would get thrown away that's a lot of the value right well if you're the smaller bottle but they have a secondary market for those with the Walmarts the xl2 whatever right so they can make some money off those the direct consumer or other brands smaller brands go well if we throw those away man these other balls get way more expensive so I think that might be part of it but every product is inconsistent and it just comes down to how much pride you have in your quality control and Titleist I think maybe more than any showed that n has shown that they really give a damn about the quality of every single ball and they've stay at that one and Bridgestone as well yeah and Titleist will say that they do that as well through throughout their entire manufacturing process from balls through I don't say it they do it oh yeah I mean they've got guys to walk their lines in the manufacturing plants that where they're actually building the clubs that make sure their quality controls are the highest quality all right so let's get to the how difference so people understand Tony how much difference was the worst dozen of balls in compression meaning like if they say it was a hundred what was the biggest gap from one ball the the standard deviation was around ten so I'd have to go back in whren and look at the exact numbers but it was it was it was pretty significant and again now you know we we I don't want to mislead anybody when when a golf ball company does a quality check they're gonna they're gonna check twelve dozen right that that wasn't our sample size so I don't expect our standard deviations to be a little higher but when you look at a list of all was right and you're seeing you know one point something 2.5 3.0 and then all of a sudden you've got a you've got a couple nines and eight and a ten or whatever it is you're like all right you know these guys have a problem and and at that point right as soon as you see that that to me is absolutely disqualifying like how can you how can you feel confident right I'm not a guy who's who's always saying well I need to feel confident when I look at something that's at the other but when when you know that there's that much inconsistency from one ball you know someone takeaways and that is Tony and I were talking about it kind of when we were first looking at data and we went man the most shocking thing I can tell people and Danny Woodhead old expatriate reached out and was like so what'd you find out about tests and I said look I can't give you the results but I'm gonna give you a tip play the same damn ball every shot you hit every hole you play every round you play and here is why there are so many differences from from company to company the 18 yards the this the that right that let's say for example on hole 13 last shot you know you throw you lose your ball whatever on 13 you go to the tee box on 14 you do what almost every golfer does they reach in their bag which is a shag bag of a gazillion different brands and you know scuffed up balls which don't ever play those either and guilty of that they said but what I yeah what I find the actual number with all due deference to title it is the actual number one ball and golfers what I find like that that's what most golfers play that is true the number golf ball and golf is what depends on what you level you are hey Tony is a nice level ok any well but even then right you know you still have guys that at a certain level what I I'm only willing to play tore balls that I find well let's just ask what I do I get to the point Tony how many brand balls are in your bag at once and different models combined uh generally only two or three ok better than most but - 2 or 3 ok here it's me I'm Blake pin all right so that's a joke but there are a lot of people that have maybe 10 different balls in their bag and why that is difference to get back to the point let's say you lose your ball number 13 okay you go on to number 14 drop the peg in the ground you got to carry it to 50 okay with your driver and you know you hit it to 60 but you picked out one of the balls in our test that goes 18 yards shorter you are now in the water and it had nothing to do with your actual swimming I'm sorry and we've seen it on TV Tony what was the shot that you were talking about originally we're on tour they were talking about a guy that hit a ball and it came up short and and the golfer knew that it was not his swing the distance he hit was the right but you see it like you definitely I mean it's happened several times you kind of see that that look like where everybody knows the yardage was right the there wasn't wind there was no contributing factor other and hey that that didn't go where it was supposed to and that I mean that can happen with a ball you play the same ball you play every time right due to inconsistencies from the ball so but it's gonna have less than switching from ball to ball brand to brand yeah and so like if you wait weeks we know look we know there are inconsistencies within a boxer right you're gonna get some depending on the box slight two significant variations and you're gonna take that and then go and introduce more variables meaning a another brand with its own variables the other so basically in a nutshell don't compound the variables with another variable right so I don't care I care a little bit less about what brand and ball you play I care more about whichever ball you play pick it use it and hit it every shot right no we actually this is a conversation I had with one of my buddies on the club the industry and he's like yeah that's something we've talked about with the typical golfer be better off playing the wrong ball for his game provided he played that ball every time versus kind of switching between balls that might be a little better yeah the thinking is yet you're better off playing consistently the wrong ball then you know playing a mix of balls that might be better yeah which takes us in the next one which is well if you're telling me there's so many inconsistencies right golfers now have a new built-in excuse and golfers love excuses off that first team when they shank one right the ball might actually be your next built-in excuse because it might have been the reason why it looked 40 yards in the woods and why is that Tony why is this that golfers have finally gotten the the best excuse ever for their bad shots yeah I think I think Sam who was with me when we did the ball testing would agree like probably the the craziest things we saw were work balls that just soared off line Tony's trying to have a conversation with you in here sorry we got testing going on oh yeah you see a ball right and we're talking this and again right speed amplifies everything so it was most apparent on the high swing speed portion of the driver test where you'd see a ball and it would just I mean take off Oh beat it would literally just stop straight and just completely changed yeah yeah and so you go back and you'd be like all right what the hell happened there's no significant wind right we're watching the wind there's no significant wind you're checking you're checking what you're getting from the robot you're checking the data coming off the launch monitor and the only thing you see that's different is a major shift in the spin axis which is basically for whatever reason when that ball got hit it tilted hard and and so when we talked to the guys on the inside the ball guys we know they're like yeah it happens it happens because you have a ball that's out around or because of core or some of the other layers are imbalanced or because there's an aerodynamic gives you and if we saw it you know it with probably half the brands in the test and so you know when I look at it we saw it with the Snell's for example we had it happen with a snow ball with some chrome soft sand max fly on the zoo no I mean I think we list I not I think I'm sure we listed everyone I'm in the article where we saw balls go significantly offline but I mean it is absolutely crazy I was on the phone with you where we're calling you like hey how's it going and I'm like holy and it's because a ball is perper perfectly struck clean dead nuts enter strike with a robot just takes off and ends up you know somewhere between 20 to 40 yards off that's surprising to us that work in my golf by my guess is other than the people that actually design golf balls that's probably surprising to me every golfer but that's the thing too is like you know as golfers it's so easy to say oh I you know there are very few times where I know that I was like I hit that one dead straight yeah because but then at the end of the day you're like it's it's gotta be me it's gotta be my something it's got to be the club and but it's always right I guess I didn't hit that as well as I thought yeah right because the book we say it a lot here right ball don't lie well maybe it does a good point I mean that is interesting that I always thought if I know it I know I hit that straight and I think well there must have been a gust of wind above the tree like yeah always looking for something else and something she was trying to find some excuse it's not like the baseball player that misses and he looks at his global yeah in my experience the only time that I'll really like really inspect the ball other than you know you're cleaning the ball off while you're playing but if I hit a chip shot around the green and it doesn't check like I was like I hit that dead nuts and I know it's supposed to check and it didn't check that's the only time right all right let's switch the ball maybe it was the ball maybe you know maybe I called it weird but failsafe right maybe maybe it's me maybe it's not let's let's go I can't get rid of myself let's talk about that next thing which is cut golf balls not the brain cut but the actual cutting of the surface of a ball would you play if you saw that in one that you had a you know not a not a cut but a decent blemish right similar to one that you see on the article that we published right where it's you've got a close-up picture of it would you a lot of golfers play that ball in the next shot played on the next hole things are four bucks apiece man I did it I did it but would you if you were playing for a money game on the weekend are you T in that ball up the next hole but depends how I'm playing formance we know it does right and the problem with some of the launch monitors out there is they can't tell you that so you see a lot of reviews out there on YouTube on golf ball reviews and they don't take that into consideration because it can't see those things right I mean any anything that as soon as look if it's a little bit of like missing paint we saw this a lot in the test right saying where you you know the buttes notice like it there's almost like a gray spot on the ball right where you know they just lost a little bit of paint no big deal but as soon as you you basically had something that disrupts the the cover disrupts the surface of the ball when you've got kind of gnarly hanging off off of it now you're introducing again that is an aerodynamics variable you didn't have on the previous shot so yeah you know after we after we collect and we inspected everything and made sure that and unfortunately there were balls where we hit at one time and like that shouldn't happen think about this if a ball that's round or you thought was round flies 40 yards left how much could it fly right left up down if it has a squirrely piece of junk hanging off but what am I straighten it out it's possible not reminds me that reminds me of back in the day I or one of the guys out there remember top fly XL mm you talk about this ball one more time I swear there's a lot of basketball like I love that ball because if when I was a junior you said I used to get go 400 and if you found one of those on the early pros easy they're gonna plate X out mm anybody out there that has those please send them to Harry I love I love those BOTS but if you were if you if you were in those bunkers on your course they would cut up completely because the skin was actually so soft all right well I know that that was your most wanted ball okay let's get to the balls that did well in the actual test because I think people should know so first and foremost there is not a best ball in this test in the simulator right now what's that let's let's clear that right understanding we did not name a best ball no but we did name balls that we think if you go out and buy balls next time that you should consider first and I look at that personally has two ways the excellent excellent category and the value category and if you want to go to the next categories down you can depending on price but I feel like the excellent category and the value category cover the two poles meaning there's no reason to play a lot of these balls in the middle right now from what we can tell when we think again right spiting notwithstanding right correct if they fit you awesome but but not just because whatever follows just goes yeah not only because some social influencer told you this is a kick-ass ball that is don't pay attention to that anymore alright so the excellent balls in our test the ones that we think are our tops in the category are the Bridgestone Tour BX and phenomenal ball both from a consistency standpoint and performance standpoint I don't think I think it checked all the boxes did it not Tony yes so I mean again right as I'm as I'm looking at the data right because I'm working on a full bag over whole this year and and I'm gonna commit to playing one ball on every shot and so I'm looking for a ball I think that that's gonna fit my game and and I know what I'm looking for is and again not starting with a driver but I'm just starting with the top of the bag I want something that's gonna lower some spin off the driver I want something that's going to spin enough off the green and then around on the irons I'm not looking for anything extreme right I don't want something that's gonna gonna not spin land and roll and I don't want something that's gonna hit and spin off the front and so I'm looking at the chart all right what are these which of these balls that are in our excellent category that I think are are really good from a consistency standpoint is a good fit for me and I'm like boy that X that that Tour BX looks really good yeah so yeah I think that's me and I can see why other people would look at that Pro v1x and go hell yeah well what's up Rosie and the X are both in the excellent category and so is the Strix on Z star and those four balls contrary to maybe what you've heard in regards to sales figures you know hot list metals those four balls are legitimate for top performing balls in industry period you know they perform at save you again and we're talking about different performance characteristics right but in terms of consistency and what we saw in things like the compression measurements and things like that they're just there wasn't anything we looked at and certainly you know what Sam and I were watching is these were balls we're flying downrange you sort of get alright this is where the ball is supposed to land somewhere in this range and then you have all right you're getting a little outside the range but I can stomach it and then you're sort of like in the borderlands and with the with those balls there was just nothing where where it just wasn't in the spot where it was supposed to land and the consistency measurements not perfect look really good on a comparative basis so I was like yeah you know these as we really looked at it those were the ones that just kind of stood out immediately do you want to find a ball at the court as well once again back to the different balls in a dozen you want a ball that when you pick pluck another ball into your bag you can expect it to perform similarly to the last ball that you plucked out with the same name and same number on it right so Bridgestone Tour BX strict zone circus on z-star titleist pro v1 titleist pro v1 X next before we get to the other balls I want to get to the the value balls so the value ball is the best in our opinion were these and that is a combination of performance and price and that's the Snell MTB X which you know did well in a couple different categories and while it did well it was it was the longest golf ball in our test by leaps and bounds compared to the next one certainly in high speed yep yes certainly at high speed so a cheaper ball compared relatively speaking to a lot of the leading tour quality balls so this language like 28 it dozen when you buy five so yeah and I think when you buy five good then the next one you know Kirkland Signature does it again it's not the same ball for everyone out there that is listening I've seen some comments assuming that it's the same ball it's not the same ball we originally tested that kind of took the golf ball world by storm but it is another good ball and I think it's $12 a dozen like that rice is less than one dozen of any other ball test it's a dollar a freaking ball a dollar dollar a dollar ball it's not the greatest ball I'm not a big fan but if you were the guy that's in the middle and doesn't really care too much I'm gonna play a dollar bowl hey if value is you know big picture right are you better off playing a dollar kirkland ball or a dollar ionomer covered 2-piece point that maybe doesn't provide greenside performance Kirkland I mean like I said I don't love the ball it's not a fantastic possible to do not so preference solid and it's it's gonna do better than than the majority to be shoot a strike before we get to the other accolades Matt Tony would you ever buy or do you think offer should ever buy a two-piece value ball so unless right so Bridgestone for example with the e12 promotes straighter ball flight right that's that's something we haven't tested I don't know if that's true it's part of the conversation so if it is true if we assume it's true and you just really need straight or ball flight yeah that makes sense but if you're if you're just trying to save a few bucks right that's your decision point to go into a ionomer know there's about 12 bucks that is cheaper than the 2p dollar Wow it performs just as good or better guaranteed so I don't know who I was talking to but one of the golf ball guys basically said yeah we make the cheap balls the two-piece balls for like guys who just want to play in a tournament you know and we give them away and basically there's no value performance wise and the tour balls and the people that we've consulted with the that have tested balls before we did it that have similar data to what we have said the same thing like there's really no value in buying a two-piece ball anymore there's many premium options as you have under $35 right like you see guys who buy them all one because they're cheap to because you know something like a Titleist velocity for example flies for absolute miles and and the rest is hey is there something to the shaft shape correction story right and if there's something to that okay but beyond that my god there's dollar ball I would also argue that some guys don't think that they're good enough to play yeah that's a perception that's just not true right well that's what I mean is this just pulling this perception in the industry because guys like my dad doesn't think he's good enough to play expensive golf ball so he buys the slaw jinjur's but he's all for me that's 440 well those guys will lose more of those balls on a round and on rounds around you know so they might be like hmm I'm not gonna waste 30 bucks and a dozen balls I'm gonna lose in two rounds dollar a ball Tony distorted but when you come to when you come to Kirkland's okay hey there's no need to buy Walmart golf balls anymore just body and if the quality control is what we now know it is you may be losing those balls and it may not even have been your fall in the first place but that's another thing we should try to help hopefully start the messaging to move forward to change like I get it when you're in a rush you got to stop and buy balls wherever right but there are goods there is good stuff out there there's a gazillion ways to get them between Amazon and all the other ways to get balls now just you know try to consider these balls right and that gets us to another myth and that is the whole I hope from this day forward it's probably gonna take a while but the whole soft golf ball thing needs to be dead so yeah win-win golf Brent golf ball companies focus group study golf ball buyers Tony and they say what is the most important thing that you give a damn about when it comes to the ball what do they say I would guess it's feel I don't know as we know they tell every time they do the study it's feel feel feel right so why did golf ball companies create soft golf balls in your opinion yeah so my history may be wrong here we talked about this earlier I think to the best of my recollection was heard kind of started with the precept lady right the ball a woman's Paul and I guess we probably shouldn't say women's ball anymore but that was that was the marketing right like this is a ball for women and it turns out guys liked it because it felts off next thing you know you've got the ladee right the lady becomes the laddie for men and and it trickles down you've got you've got the Wilson so Wilson you know fast forward right Wilson does like the zip and then the the duo kind of catches fire right but that's it catches fire in a very small segment right still a two-piece ionomer ball that's incredibly soft feel a lot of guys like it I can't say this is what happened but if I'm Callaway right and consider where we are you know four or five years ago I want to take on Titleist in the counter in the in the urethane Tour Bach category everybody who's tried to take on Titleist has has failed because they tried to compute at either a lower pricepoint even regardless of the price point with basically the same story right our ball does the same thing that your ball already does and well if it if it already if it does what mine does why should I buy it and so there was a marketing opportunity I think to go in and in that softer space and really create differentiation in the tour category that has an exhibit that didn't exist at the time and it gave golfer you know over several iterations more and more at people because of the success of Callaway everybody else has kind of had to chase into that soft space yeah that's that's a that's an unfortunate thing I think that happened for Titus I think they looked around and went Jesus man like everybody's going in this soft space you know we got a compete right so we'll make a softball and I think if they were to admit they probably didn't even want to create that ball to begin with if they're being yeah look I mean it's funny everybody says well you know ADX right only this because chrome soft was kicking Titleist ask someone you know kicking ass is a relative term I guess but yes I think I think a DX was a reasonable and necessary response to Chrome's off but do I think that's a ball Titleist wanted to make well it's not a ball it's not a golf ball that helps golfer so it needs to be stopped Manny zero for you can't only people it helps us Harry super high swing speed super high spin off the driver that might help it ballpark 155 mile an hour ball speed 2,800 sped off the driver and that's not to say your iron characteristics always align in you again we want to talk about getting fit from irons and wedges but if if you are also you know though those are kind of your driver characteristics and you're also high spin I speed off the iron yes AVX anything when soft in the name might work for you but that is the market and that is other than I want it because it's soft and I like soft the preference guys that is the real performance market for that ball well a couple things I want people to remember so based on our tests and the data a soft golf ball the ones that you hear out there chrome soft you know the ones that have soft named duo Taurus Taurus all horse off a stop a soft golf ball is a slow golf ball theory and so what have we been like almost 10 years of testing right in that 10 years we've created all kinds of charts and diagrams and looked at a whole bunch of data and that when we laid out that ball speed versus compression chart and you see that absolute correlation between compression and ball speed I mean that I would say in again almost 10 years of doing that that is the single most eye-opening chart I've ever created and and to see that and go my god like why why would you want to give up ball speed and it is funny right when the same guys who who tell you that with with drivers and irons and other stuff hey ball speed is king all speed is still king and now you get down to the golf ball space kneeling no comment right it's it's eye-opening it is absolutely there is no arguing the absolute correlation between ball speed yeah I were to ask you and you know we tweeted this earlier so I think I thought it was a good point you mentioned I took to your comment to a reader in the comments section and basically just put it out on Twitter but I'm gonna Bellus not to what the reader said but to what the actual facts were in the test and that is would you give up eight or ten yards for a golf ball or sorry eighteen to twenty yards off the tee for a golf ball that you said I prefer feel over distance not many golfers would answer yes to that and Tony's response was and we have found it year after year in every study and I wish golfers would just stop saying that this is true because it's not Tony's response was and it's a fact feel is meaningless golfers love to talk about it but it has no bearing on performance feel is why softballs have emerged to the detriment of your actual performance both of those are true not only almost for everything we test in here people say I got to like the looks I got to like the feel none of it has shown to be true in anything we've tested so far and definitively not in balls right I wanna I want to go back like to like in the early days when we first started doing driver testing we were just learning and trying different things right throwing noodles at walls to to see what what the readers would respond to and what they wanted we'd used to do sound and feel look sound and feel surveys on everything we still do them we don't we don't publish them necessarily but goes back to you remember the power pop I do yes like this this hideously ugly garbage sounding anti slice driver right it was it was everything that a traditionalist would hate it was definitely not not good to look at right it was a but we had a guy and it wasn't just the power pod but this is the most extreme example right so we eat goes through the test and we've got all the data and he fills out the survey and leaves comments and he was like you know ugliest driver ever terrible sound I don't feel no way just couldn't hit it straight at all all over the place totally inconsistent and we go back and look at the data and I'm like holy this is the best drivers for this guy he's ever tested like the numbers were appreciably better than anything we've got but so if you start to see like what your mind tells you is going on it isn't always what's real wait sell the other what you said earlier I tell you it didn't go straight and I'm like yeah your dispersion was tighter than it's ever been wait not only did you say the golf ball might be lying to you but golfers lie to themselves and we see it every day in the test facility and I've seen it every day for 20 years right they took me I don't know how many years to finally be convinced not just convinced myself else but how others convinced me that yeah you know what maybe you just really shouldn't well I'll give you some examples you know obviously salmon tongue or Harry can tell you how many golfers come through here doing entire most wanted tests meaning their actual data and say which driver just like oh I know this driver was number one no that was number 17 here's your number one driver and they will not play it Sam found out that his number one driver this year last year and this is because this is what was your number one driver last year we all know my best drivers a vertical groove driver I don't even think that their business anymore I don't think they're the same didn't buy one if Sam had just bought the driver well they're probably out of business because they said vertical grooves did something that was total but that being said Sam actually played that driver for a while right and I think he eventually switched yeah so even very long so even Sam a guy that runs the facili in here for most wanted it's hard to wrap your head around playing the product that should be best for you and I get that I understand that and if that's not if you can't play number one go down to number two that's what I did just for the record that's number two and if that doesn't look well for you like for me for shoes I'm wearing them now they're not the number one ranked shoe we had they were the number fourth or fifth but that's what I wear and guess what it works number one for me so that's fine yeah and it doesn't look like number two what was number two all right so let's get back to the accolades so number one the x1 ball is Bridgestone Tour BX strix on Z star titleist pro v1 titles Pro v1x I'm going to put she's at the bottom category next and fill in the gaps after that in the poor category there was the cut blue and cut gray and I'll let Tony and Sam go on and to tell people why the cut balls were the only balls in the poor category well first I mean there were there were some general let's say inconsistencies and in some areas of performance the gray believed that was the grade is is slow even relative to its compression you know it's funny just looking at the chart you can you can kind of argue the rating just based on what you see but when we got to the wedge test and we hit the ball and they came back we're like every last one of them was cut and it was literally cut to the point and that's that's actually the picture that's in the article is is a cut ball after a single wedge swing and that was true for every cut ball we hit blue-gray so whatever so it is our feeling that that no golfer is going to be happy with with a golf ball that is what I believe to be unplayable for a single cleanweb strike like that to me that is so even if it had the presently disqualifying even best performance and did that we it would have been in that category and it has to be even if it was a titles Pro v1 and it did that on every shot it would have been in the poor but the cut didn't perform the best and the quality control was the worst so on to the next is the best distance balls were the Snell MTB X by quite a substantial amount on high speed high speed for sure yeah yeah it was the it was the longest on high speed the the pro v1x was a little longer for guys with at the 85 mile an hour robot setting Karenina and the the tour BX the Bridgestone ball was the one that was sort of right there in the conversation speeds the Snell MTB X titleist pro v1 x and the Bridgestone Tour BX spin which you know at the end of the day not to get on a soapbox because we don't know if that's a soapbox we can get on yet but I don't want and we're gonna tell you which balls spun the most but we don't know if that really equates to lower scores better strokes gain values because there really hasn't been enough studies on that we'd love to do that and we're trying to figure one out but anyway for those people that do want to know the highest spinning for the wedge that was the new Volvic s4 and i would think you might agree both you guys that compared to the past fulvic balls this was an improvement yeah I think I mean I don't be honest I don't have a ton of familiarity with them what I can say is you know when you're when you're you're hitting balls off the wedge right and you go from a ball one of the you know we had a couple where the spin was in I think like the the 8800 range maybe on the low end and and most of them are ninety-five ninety-six hundred and you dropped the first the first ball back down and it comes back at like ten thousand one hundred and you're like okay hold on this this one is different and again not I don't think I'm almost positive right not everybody wants or needs as much spin as they can possibly get around the green or off a wedge like it's it's really cool when a pro sucks it back and we all want to be able to do that except you know as soon as you hit one and it lands right on top of the black stick and then spins back off the front of the green then and you know yeah so you know but but we also knew that readers would want to know hey what's the longest Bowl do we think you should absolutely always play the longest ball definitely not but we know you want to know that what's this Phineas ball again should you always play the highest spinning ball probably not but we know you want to know that and so yeah it was volva canned you know whatever the other two were three the three balls on the Volvic s4 Kirkland Signature three-piece and the Mizuno RB tore X which is a new ball this year we did the best of all best value balls couple of the acylated things that we think people wanted to see was the longest ball which was a snow mt DX and the max flight or which is a new ball that has a new you know called center of gravity balanced and in a nutshell what's the analogy for that Tony it's this thing right the tech GoPro so you put a ball in you spin it around it sort of finds out where the where the heavy spot is I guess right how how the ball is weighted so you mark it supposedly hits you help you so you hit it straighter and and based on what we saw in the test and some of the inconsistencies that we saw in ball flight yeah this might not be the worst idea so Bryce that's Addie Shambo thing too right he uses I think he absent salts it but yeah it's the same for similar philosophy right yeah same idea lots of guys do that too I don't know if it's Lots but certain plan toward Bryson does it we can't not talk about probably the elephant in the room in regards to the highest perceived performing ball versus probably the worst perceiving ball on the test and it does chap my ass a little bit because you know Calloway does an incredible job of marketing that being said they have become what the number two golf ball company in the world correct Tony number two and and grow wing and and projecting that they're gonna narrow that gap now you know they got long way to go to get to number one but yeah I'll never forget Harry our net called me years ago and he goes this is back before they started the five year war and he said how do you how are we gonna take on this behemoth Titleist said you go right after if it was me you know and they did they went right after him but in my opinion they went after him with a ball not nearly as good the Callaway chromis off is being marketed as one thing it is a totally different story when you get it on the course and the people that the car is soft but it is not fast yeah it is not fast I don't give a damn how much graphene they put in the thing to do whatever they said it did it's a slow ball it's not a very consistent ball it's the shortest golf ball in our test both the soft and the soft X and I don't think any of us would have probably thought that before the test start gonna be one of the best ones yeah gonna be good so think about that 36 balls tested ii brand number two selling ball and golf came up dead last that's a shocker to us and I'm sure it's a shocker to people that read the article so far and if you haven't in my opinion you know play the chrome soft if you want and be influenced by marketing all you want but at the end of the day the data is what it is and this the truth and this is what's real and that ball is not near one of the best balls in golf so that all being said wrapping this thing up Tony like I kind of want to ask everybody what they think of this test what do you think the value is for consumers what do you think the value is to the entry what do you think the impact could be based on this test in your opinion well like you said I hope fitting becomes a more important part or ball fitting becomes a greater part of the conversation I certainly you know we took a lot of put a lot of effort into talking about the right way to get fit and what you should look for and things like that and and you you know things like hey fit the fit the golf ball to the irons and wedges then fit the driver to the ball kind of the education piece we really put a lot of effort into and I hope people take that away I want people to that understand the performance characteristics of the ball that they're playing now to look at that launch and spin chart and say hey you know I I have this ball i play now i wish ii did this or that differently and and look at those charts and maybe get some ideas for some some balls that they think that might be better for them and go try some sleuth things on the course right because we're not here to say hey this is the best ball period I want you to have some ideas of what to try and if we're being honest maybe balls that you shouldn't try as well yeah because again that the you know not to keep piling it on the softball but but the actual market for that ball from a performance perspective is so wildly different from from from how its perceived that I think it is important to call awareness to that but but ultimately I just hope that we provided education filled in some blanks to the knowledge and dispelled some of the myths about golf ball performance yeah the end of the day well said I think our job golfers spend a lot of money on the equipment that's out there balls to drivers to everything right so really we've dedicated the time that we come in here every day - trying to make it a little bit easier for golfers to go that's probably a good product for me or that is worth the money I want to spend right because it's a lot of money people spend and our job really is just to learn first educate second from based on what we learned and hopefully that empowers consumers to make better decisions basically to maximize their potential and then also keep the industry checks and balanced on things like the softball shouldn't be marketed the way it is you know yeah and that's why I think I think the whole marketing behind the ball will change I think in five to ten years I think you see a completely different shift in marketing yeah I think I think overall overarching I think the biggest impact here is that we're just from my perspective it just seems like we're bringing awareness to golf balls in general you know we were talking about this before we got on live and I'm kind of like you know I I never really thought twice about the golf I've always thought that I need to play good golf ball but you have this perception that all golf balls are good and all golf balls perform the same and I think that comes down to yeah I like to firm the ball this ball spends a little more but there's actual real tangible difference in those balls and the most important part is just to understand that that actually exists there's not enough education and awareness like Tony said in the industry to say that there's no you don't know exactly and once you know you know you can make a better educated decision based on the dead and before this test got published unfortunately for golfers no one really knew I mean there were a couple people that thought and they probably were closer knowing like you guys are plus handicaps you know that this ball is different than this you don't know how much but you know there's probably something going on you can fit this puts hard data on what those differences are and not feel because that was a pun so Matt I wanted to see if we could take some comments and questions from all right so his I have one question there sir we would be the question number one you guys do you guys know my swing speed I'm a high spin kind of guy but for those guys are in seem similar boat that I am I want to be able to check the ball the green from say ten yards in but it's more of the chip shots the bump and runs where you see the pros go and two or three bounces and then checks up to the hole is there a ball out there for people like me that will do that but will not lose everything from the from the driver to the iron and the spin rates all that kind of stuff because I find it hard to find one of those balls what do you do probably not compromise you look so so on paper right you you swim playing what we would we you out like a hundred and twenty something miles an hour at the PGA Tour so all speed listening right he's an but ball speed 1/100 an hour but your your heist your high spin so you are the guy on paper that fits into a navy X into a chrome soft X right that's actually one I might look like look at in this scenario because it's it's a little bit on the softer side but it's it's it's kind of low to medium compression you might get some of that green side behavior you're looking for that you don't get from something else but you're that guy who on paper could benefit from a low compression ball well no you know not to cut you off to me but when we were at strikes on two we were fooling around a couple different balls yeah I asked them to put XIV's in the bag and I think you do the same no I actually could be you wanna see step straight up there z-star tall which is actually a heart of well yeah well they they were saying yeah you should go to the Q star tour might be a good fit for you because that's a lower compression underneath we know yep yep so you so that's again these are these are balls which are kind of getting marketed towards you know you sort of think them as first for slower swings beat guys who who don't like the click of a firmer balls right that's kind of where that the segment where they're softening all started and it kind of spilled upwards but but really the actual market for this stuff or guys like you Harry it's it's high speed high spin yes because again you're gonna so much of your using distant it's because of the spin yeah so you kinda to a degree can offset the ball speed loss there but yeah but but theoretically you will have to compensate something within you're not gonna find that perfect ball so you would come up okay I mean we didn't do a lot of that super close to green side testing but you know if I'm gonna make a broad statement that I believe is it is to be is true it's that for most golfers every ball represents some sort of compromise right like there are a lot of guys who would who would love what the what the what the phobic s4 does around the green or on a wedge shot right where's lands and spins back man that's really cool that's something I want but it's also a little bit on the higher side off of the driver and I I don't want that so yeah those are the trade off is given if you need to find you need to find you know to borrow or pretty cliché yeah you need total performance right yeah and I guess the Bulls that you see on tour are they the same Bulls that you're seeing in the manufacturing great question depends on the fall so for example right the Bridgestone tour bxs that tiger place is the retail ball up until Callaway released the brand new triple track version of the chrome soft X none of the tour guys or at least very very few of them we're playing the ball that is available to retail because again the compression characteristics and the performance characteristics hold on with it so let's let's address that right because we've got a lot of people DME may let me go on you guys are full of and here's why because all the guys if it's so short and the chrome solve so short why are the pros play in that ball they're not playing the ball yeah surprise surprise they're not look at the UFT Eila and look I don't this is not an exclusively Callaway thing right for as long as there's been a USDA conforming ball list there there have been balls on it that are not the retail models right if you look at back when when Tiger was with Nike you know he had they were essentially what are now tiger balls right Titleist when before Ricky Fowler left for tailor-made he was using what Titleist calls the left out version of the pro view on are probably 1x TaylorMade has a variety of different tp5 on the USGA list that aren't the retail balls right because tour players have very specific needs some of them are looking for very specific launch and spin characteristics right these guys are most of them as repeatable as a row button in some cases so they want a ball that does different things than what an average guy might be looking for and certainly yep compression is part of that discussion look Phil Mickelson is not playing a low compression ball it's not what the tour guys want again the relationship between ball speed and compression is absolute it is it is not up for debate and so yeah you can reasonably assume that then not only were those guys not playing the retail ball but I think I would assume again this is this is not fact this is just kind of my mind thinking in a logical way that if you look at what Kelly's done right would be with the chrome soft X triple track that came out literally two days after we wrapped up the test that ball is different I'm told it is what the majority of the tour guys are playing and while Callaway hasn't been able to pin them down and get us that get us to tell us exactly how it's different other than they're saying hey it's it's got more separation in the launch spin curves from from the previous balls I would assume and I think this is a really safe assumption that the compression is significantly higher right that is it is a ball that is suitable for Tour play whereas the current or the stock chrome soft is it's a softer ball it's not what's being used on tour by the overwhelming majority of Callaway stops all right and again not unique to Callaway happens with it every brand I'm gonna get to some questions on YouTube and Facebook right now so just rapid-fire quick as answers you can give d.smith on youtube says does a matte finish have any effect on ball performance yeah so this one I said this right we actually to condense the article so get output I think it requires further studies certainly what we saw in wet wedge performance is that the Matt balls including the matte urethane balls had a tendency to jump a bit more than the standard ball so give you some background when we you know wedge sweat wedged has we couldn't get a full set of data but what we observed was typically a wet ball hit off a wedge under the conditions we tested under would launch about five degrees higher than when the ball was dry with mat balls that number was higher the spin was lower so there does seem to be and again we didn't do a full blown totally extensive test but certainly we found indications that mat ball is going to be more unpredictable when wet less consistent its paranoid android golfer which has one hundred and sixty seven thousand followers asked a great question how many times can you say balls area coffee balls alright let's get to the next I'm drunk let's see what separated the Bridgestone Tour X from the Bridgestone Tour XS yeah the big thing obviously the performance difference is were we're a little bit different I mean they weren't massive but you would expect right Tour guys one sort of slight variations at the same thing I guess the big thing for us and why we rated it slow lower there was a little more difference in the compression measurements and while it's reasonable to probably assume that if you looked at a huge sample of Bridgestone balls it would probably net out we didn't want to make any of those type of assumptions and so when everything shook out the excess was sort of right on the line in my mind between excellent and very good and so what I thought I'd told people who was asked is look um it's I I would have no reservations about putting that ball in my back and in fact you know the online befitting tool bridged on spinning tool recommended that ball for me so I'm actually checking it out in parallel with the Tour BX which is where I'm leaning right now so just just that small thing in compression consistency on line fitting tool fit me for the XS as well I've put it into play I love the feel of it I think it's great around the greens spins way too much on driver so that's just my experience I'm you know upwards of one hundred and seventeen eighteen on driver speed but I need a little bit of lower spin off the drum you tend to be what kind of more of a mid spin guy of a driver right yeah and like a low spin ball makes might you know helps me hit 300 plus all the time because I'm spending a mm yeah alright the next one is a statement but I think we today are finding out there's some truth to this callaway will start making chrome hards after this report well I think again we covered this I don't know that this is the absolute truth of it but my assumption is that the new the new core the new model which they've kind of quietly slid into the market with a new chrome sup Dex triple-track and I believe the Stars and Stripes edition that was just announced today I would all but guarantee that that ball is going to be higher compression for sure it just makes sense yes so suppose we were hearing that there is a higher compression ball that's still called soft that just all of a sudden has higher compression and didn't get told to anybody correct well I mean it was I mean it was it was really nuanced in the press release and you know I'm gonna reach out to one of the guys to know what Callaway today and see if I can get some absolute information because I know I know people want to know and certainly if if Callaway has a better ball out there than what we tested you know it's fair to let people know that for sure right yeah so we want to get all the information we can all right one thing I forgot to mention too was a value ball that we did not mention was the in assist tour nine hundred yeah none of you guys have proud for many guys in the United States have probably not heard of that ball in assists as a brand that we just started testing actually that's done really well so far their shoes were really good some other of their products are looking good and their ball was a really good performer and in the best value so somebody had mentioned that and the questions pass that great - they gave us some pants so having a great Sam likes the pants they make everything it's insane they make everything that you need to play golf from clothes to balls bags clubs the whole shebang you know a lot of us brands do that too right what make just about everything you need to play golf yeah maybe not maybe not as complete yeah let's see I think before we finish this I would like to reiterate kind of the takeaways that we want to put out there for people to think about the industry to think about consumers to go out there and try and these six were golf ball fitting is the future it showed that there's more difference from ball to ball than there is from driver to driver in our testing in regards to distance and some other things all golf balls are not the same meaning there is a drastic difference in performance from ball to ball and that was a myth that had been around for a long time that there wasn't much difference a soft golf ball the balls that you're out there hearing about being softer a soft golf ball is a slow ball period one we forgot to get to and I know Tony wants to talk about before we get done and that is golfer saying I got to be able to compress that ball man so compressing the golf ball I know I see you shaking your head what do you want to tell people about that yeah you know I again all right this is one of those things where I kind of understand where it came from look the reality is there's a ball that was was slow or fast let's look at a positives right a ball the high compression ball that was among the fastest and 115 miles an hour was also a high compression ball that it was among the fastest at 85 miles an hour no no maybe something happens right when you get down into 80 75 miles an hour maybe maybe maybe but the bigger risk and and it's sort of like the the marketing piece that's the actual flipside of what's real is that a bigger problem is actually over compressing a softball at higher swing speeds and I think that's why we see such a strong degradation in ball speed with the with the soft stuff is it is actually possible to over compress a ball under compressing it not getting into the core look there's brands have been fighting that back and forth right one brand says you know you need to compress the core and other Titleist is providing plenty of high-speed video slow swing speeds to say check this out the ball compresses plenty all I could say is look there's there's absolutely zero evidence that that the ability to compress the core is something that that a guy who swings in the 80-85 mile an hour and Beyond right 85 80 plus mile an hour needs to really concern himself with you you're gonna compress it just fine all right so another thing that we see a lot it's unfortunate but it is the reality of golfers I don't know why this is maybe it's not just golf maybe it's everything but so many people that say I don't care what you said I'm playing this or I was disappointed that this didn't perform better screw you guys you know whatever we get it you know at the end of the day you there's confirmation bias which if you don't know what that is look it up because it is a strong factor in what we do we published things contrary to what you've been told or believed in and that's hard for some people to one understand to trust and believe and three then make an action on change because human beings by nature don't like to change anything they do really so all's I can tell you is this I don't care what ball you play our entire job is just to help you find better products we're not telling you to change anything all's we're telling you is here's what we found it would probably be in your best interest to go out and try it and see what you find think critically about the performance of your golf game and include the golf ball in that conversation yeah and just remember when you buy those tailor-mades Callaway's Nikes whatever the hell you're buying those companies aren't paying you to play these balls you're actually paying them so these bureaus will go what's ahead be your own logo yes that's what we say become your own brand be your own brand be your own logo and what we mean by that is why you're strapping these logos all over your bag and everything which I get it you like have pride and they resonate with you that's great but if those things are actually not helping you in hurting your score just try the other things and see don't be so adverse to trying something different right friendly yeah we call it brand washing around here and it's real people are brainwashed by brands looking like a tour pro as unfortunate as it may sound is probably not gonna help you shoot on your part it's never helped me I have I have very nice clubs I dress well on the golf course I shot even par through nine holes once last year and you know a lot of other boys that's that no that's Adam I played three times a week and still suck everybody that will follow you on twitter probably knows about your your uh galas kirklands a buck a bull good thing for Tony is I don't think he's bought a ball in a while Astri so for those that actually are out there they have to buy ball dollar ball don't go all right so that's it for today that's it for everything we appreciate everybody that came out and watched Tony good to see you up there in New York come down here at the facility one day you know what I mean you need some Sun I think that's because he's got the Sun beaming on his head there is no Sun here it sounds like England that's true there's no joke man it's 40 degrees today before we wrap it up before we wrap it up I'm gonna ask everybody what bald they're gonna play as their Most Wanted ball based on the data that they think would fit their game so Tony what ball are you gonna play and you only get to pick one if I'm four look I'm not looking at things but forced to pick one gun to my head toward px done Harry thought of that all the snow yeah one ball all right it's good snow all right strict on z-star XV I can't I can't find a better ball for me I'm going with the Bridgestone Tour BX or pro v1x one of the two I'm going with the Bridgestone the tour BX I think overall it's it's hard to be so that's it everybody I appreciate everybody that came out we hope that you if you haven't read the tests go out and read it share it with other golfers like we say share it with anybody that uses a golf ball to play golf we think there's a few of them out there I think everyone should see this you can make of it what you want but the data is real the data is what we found and we hope that you can find a better ball for your game in 2019 then you did in 2018 so that's it and we'll see you next

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Length: 75min 32sec (4532 seconds)

Published: Wed May 01 2019