The Meat Lobby: How the Meat Industry Hides the Truth | ENDEVR Documentary

have you noticed whenever you see a  commercial for ham on TV it's often   set in the countryside with a nice family  and a rustic backdrop and the ham is always   pink very pink and 100% natural of course  the best with a quick initial said it looks   so tasty it has your mouth watering  on the couch well that's the point but what if behind this pretty pink hit one of  the biggest health scandals of our era in 2015 the   world health organization listed processed meats  as carcinogenic for man we decided to investigate   the ingredients used by the Giants of the food  industry it can induce DNA breaks mutate cells   into sort of pre cancer cells we discovered that  to impede or halt regulations on certain additives   food industry lobbies have been working in the  shadows for decades you have to understand it the   industry is a money-making business of they're  very risk-averse they're not going to fund a   study that is bad for their business Tom pommel a  thief is a little bit about safety pay this your   cheek for Jellicle cat escapement at the heart  of this strategy of influence are the scientists   who collaborate the industry paid you for this I  received some compensation from my time as well   as the others how much and the scientists who are  targeted basically we're trying to shoot me down   or discredit me I mean that's what you'd done  means scientifically these efforts to go after   the scientists and to discredit the scientists  is a key element of a much larger strategy to   just gum up the entire policy-making process  between intimidation lies and manipulation we   will uncover proof of a worldwide strategy  we're hitting below the belt is allowed feeling hungry now then it's time  to eat tonight you are our guests   to find out how ham is made we visited a factory welcome to flowy mission one of the market leaders  in France and one of the few to play the card of   transparency the ham on your supermarket shelves  starts out like this big lumps of pork meat to have taste a little vegetable stock it all  goes into a ham shaped mold and it's cooked and the result perfectly pink rounded  slices have you grasped the basics   well let's rewind a little to see  the detail that changes everything   to obtain this fine ham there's  another very important step you have to inject the meat a machine with  a dozen syringes injects a liquid into the   lumps of pork meat the liquid contains an  essential additive factory manager Luhan   Hulu shows us these yellow sacks contain  a mixture of salt and sodium nitrite the   additive p250 as a conservation Duchamp ball  a little traditional pathogen you seem to need   a cooler new characteristic donor chakra  inversion oh and kahlúa so woozy of it and   accepted me in fact he's telling us that the  pretty pink of our ham isn't natural at all it's thanks to sodium nitrite  this additive fixes the pink   of the meat during cooking otherwise  ham would be the color of roast pork that's why food industrialists can't do without  it as a processed meat producer would confirm   venosus is wrong : that could help us get  back to detail on that all over the Queen   thus casino one just kept asking shook its  apparent unclear supreme Jones has an ashram   hungry mm-hmm for sm64 I sell descriptors and  honesty to do something more personal esteem   it is not only professor Lucifer in the create  a boundary can be said to be on some problem   let's sum up the hams pinkies are natural but  without the pink it would be impossible to   sell the big problem is that sodium nitrite  is believed to be a danger to public health the additive is suspected of playing a role  in the development of colorectal cancer one   of the deadliest cancers in Europe the cause  a phenomenon that takes place during digestion   it's chemistry but we'll make it simple you  swallow a piece of cured meat you think you're   peacefully digesting it but what you don't  know is the nitrite molecules are reacting   with the meat proteins transforming them  into very dangerous substances nitrosamine   x' we went to the netherlands to learn  more about the effects of this chemical   reaction on our health to the Faculty  of Medicine of Maastricht University this is where the toxicologist professor Te'o  de Kock works he's been interested in nitrites   for years and by extension nitrosamine nitrogen  means are known to induce damage in the large   intestine so it can induce DNA breaks mutate  cells into sort of pre cancer cells and that's   of course something that you want to want  to prevent them professor to cook notably   wanted to find out what happens inside the  body when we don't eat processed meat and   when we eat a lot of it to do so he conducted an  experiment with human guinea pigs like I'll know for two weeks this student aid 300 grams  have processed meat a day the equivalent   of eight and a half sausages or seven slices  of ham after 15 days we saw that the exposure   to nitrosamine was considerably increased  so it was up to between two and three fold   increase as compared to the levels that we  measured at start the researcher measured   the impact on the organism of this chemical  mutation of nitrites into nitrates amines in his lab he tested the fecal water  of big processed meat eaters like Arno so what you see here is fecal water from  four different individuals to see what   happens inside the body the researchers mixed this   fecal water with human cells the  white deposited in the test tube then they observed what happened to the cells  you see that if you have no exposure you see   that everything is intact so the material cells  together but if you are exposed to nitrosamine   that induce breakages of the DNA you see this  comet tail appearing so you see that here the   damage is quite extensive so the more damage you  have the more likely it is that a cell like this   will eventually mutate into a pre cancer type  of cell how long does it take for such a damage   well this damage can be induced relatively  quickly so in this essay when we isolate   the cells and we only expose them for half an  hour and then you already see the breakage of   these DNA strands and so that's how fast it can  happen and it can also happen not just in the lab   here but also in an intact human body and if we  stop using nitrites then what that would make a   difference of potentially several thousands of  colic and rectal cancer that's in Europe every   year that's huge that's huge because colorectal  cancer is a very frequent disease already small   changes in a cancer risk can have a big impact  in a large population thousands fewer cancers   and therefore potentially fewer deaths just by  suppressing nitrites but the food industry has   a sledgehammer argument for justifying the  use of nitrites it protects us from botulism botulism is a form of food poisoning caused by  bacteria that affect our central nervous system   and can be deadly Gary right but there's a  glitch in their argument there are already   companies which do produce processed meats without  nitrites and their customers are in fine form if you happen to be in Copenhagen in Denmark  just after the Little Mermaid and the case I'd   promenade pop into a supermarket like we  did there you'll find cured meats without   nitrites and for those who's Danish has gone a  bit rusty its food a new treat it's everywhere   you can easily recognize it by its colour more  brownish than pretty pink and the best known   brand is produced 150 kilometres south of the  capital in Denmark's biggest organic processed   meat plant Hennigan the boss a biochemist  started in nitrite free cured meats 25 years ago since then the Danish health authorities haven't  registered a single case of botulism caused by   processed meat we do not have problems with this  bacteria I would say for the last 50 years this   has not been a reasonable topic in Western  Europe that was a problem in meat industry   hundred years ago where think we're not as clean  as they are slaughterhouses were not as clean as   they are today so no worry about bacteria now we  have to worry about additives that might be into   producing and if they are not necessary for some  very good reasons we should not use them for you   the cancer risk today is the main risk that's  the main risk today definitely and and actually   it has been so for 30-40 years the main reason  is that they are afraid but customers will not   accept products which do not have the red color  that they have been used to for many many years Hanna Gao is one of the few food industry  companies to do without nitrites and yet   experts have been ringing alarm bells for years  twenty-five years ago a European Union Health   Report already recommended reducing the amounts  of nitrite used in processed meats in 1999 this   report even put forward banning its use altogether  despite the increasing number of studies the   European Commission still allows industrial food  companies to add lots of nitrites to the products   so we went to ask the Commissioner for health and  food safety of former health minister in Lithuania   a few questions one don't get the levels lower  I would like to guarantee you that it is it is   of course in hands of of institutions which are  responsible to follow per se and to present to us   final results notes what's always takes takes  takes time and and and and the responsibility   for over an hour the Commissioner attempted  to pull the wool over our eyes in spite of   all the reports by experts which for 25 years  have warned the authorities about the dangers   of nitrites all these studies you don't think  they're enough you know all those studies are   open that you see what's x22 to transparency six  to possibility to have them to show to people that   we are ready to follow and to see and to do how  to move for us as soon as possible transparency   is good but decisions are better purchase order  all decisions are in in lines of procedures can   you imagine like like that decision to me if  i will be king of the european union oh but I   am NOT king of European Union I mean this story  has been so going on for sole no no no sorry to   say sorry I started this story shows that all  standards are in safety line in this case why   Europe lost against Denmark in the European Court  of Justice in this night right story I don't know   then content says it's gonna be right I would  like to talk do I need more information because   I am NOT one who knows everything so let's  look at the facts mr. commissioner Denmark   wanted to limit the use of nitrites the European  Commission was against it and in 2003 in court   the Danes won in the name of the protection of  public health about European Court decisions when   European Court decision always show that public  health is priority it means that digits hunter   and Commissioner responsible public health is in  better conditions and yet since this Court ruling   EU regulations are just as lacks as ever from my  point of view we must be more energetic asking   industry to change the internal data formulate  food to follow a figure to keep onboard public   health priorities not profit absolute but  it's but it of course it's it's takes time time perfect that's just what the food  industry wants and what it has built its   strategy on for years because when it comes to  nitrites industrialists have been waiting out   the clock for 40 years forty years of scientific  manipulation blackmail and intense lobbying so the   meat business can carry on bringing home the bacon  and it all began on the other side of the Atlantic   if you think we're exaggerating listen to this in the late 1970s nitrite was almost banned in  the United States just after the publication of   a large-scale study requested by the government  a relationship between cancer and nitrate was   proved suggested approved and a fairly strong  one there were 2,000 rats involved in the study   it's a very extensive study done by a well  respected scientist the banning of nitrites   was announced in the press but the American  Meat Institute would bring out its big guns   in his office overlooking the Capitol its  President Richard Ling spoke out processed   meats that contain nitrites are a big big  thing the retail value of them about twelve   and a half billion dollars about two-thirds  of the hog production in the United States   goes into cured meats and it presents a problem  for our industry and for the government we're   hopeful that a solution can be found armed  with financial analysis the American Meat   Lobby forced the government to back down the  banning of nitrites would send pork prices   plummeting and cause an apocalypse but it was  a political event that would close the debate in 1980 Ronald Reagan was elected president of   the United States and guess  who entered into government Richard Ling the president of the  American Meat Institute himself   the idea of banning nitrite was forever buried the experiment based study on 2000 rats ended  up in the trashcan and after that the same fate   would await every scientific publication calling  nitrites into question if you're wondering how   the interests of Industry can systematically  win against what's at stake in public health   the following will enlighten you 15 years after  the victory of Ragan and the meat industrialists   a new study shook America to the core if it's  not one thing it's another a study finds a link   between hotdogs now and cancer put yourself in  the shoes of the average American Joe at the   time you and your family are eating hot dogs  at the shopping mall or in the street just as   usual the effect was immediate in a matter  of days hot dog sales fell by 8% and given   the size of the American market that represented  millions of dollars less for the food industry the author of the hot dog study that  caused sales to plummet was Susan   Preston Martin she's now a retired  scientist living near Los Angeles   in a residential suburban setting  straight out of an American soap after several tense months of talks she agreed   to see us but we had to insist  right up until the last minute the lady is very discreet it's from French TV mrs.   Preston Martin yes I'm from  Queens we go from French TV hello with her discoveries on processed meats the  researcher was the victim of a number of attacks   but she agreed to look back at her work which  showed a link between the excessive eating of   hot dogs and certain rare cancers in children how  did you find the relationship well just the way   we always did when we did case control studies  we started out with a group of children who had   leukemia and compared them to group children who  didn't have to keep me and we asked the mothers   about what they fed the children and sure enough  the kids with leukemia ate more hot dogs what did   you think when you saw this strong relationship  because it was quite a funny she was with hot   dogs I was a little bit surprised and just  reserved judgment it's just what happening me   i watch this too and they find something they  don't expect from that moment on for the food   industrialists Susan Preston Martin became  public enemy number one the meat Lobby they   definitely didn't like what we were doing they  were terribly upset and I could understand that   you know their livelihood was making processed  meats and they didn't want any anything coming   out saying that those were not good for you  basically we're trying to shoot me down or   discredit me I mean that's what shoot done  means scientifically what we discovered when   much farther the scientists had never realized  just whom she was dealing with America made the   hotdogs famous Oscar Mayer gave it Diggity in  the US the undisputed champion of supermarket   sold hotdogs has always been Oscar Mayer a brand  of the Kraft Foods Group a giant of the food   industry so far no surprises but what's less  known is that at the time and until 2007 Kraft   was owned by Philip Morris the world's second  largest tobacco company a lobby which went as   far as lies and manipulation to defend its own  interests notably in the big tobacco lawsuits   of the 1990s you believe nicotine is not addictive  I believe nicotine is not addictive yes I believe   questioning proven scientific facts the strategy  worked perfectly for years with tobacco so Philip   Morris used it again to save Oscar Meyers hot dogs  you understand how the multinational manipulated   science to defend its investments and cured meats  we headed to Northern California to San Francisco this University library holds what are commonly  known as the tobacco documents millions of   internal tobacco industry documents our guide  stanton glance has spent his life unraveling   the cigarette makers strategies he particularly  remembers one phrase used by a lobbyist in 1969   doubters our product since it is the best means of  competing with the body of fact that exists in the   mind of the general public it is also the means  of establishing a controversy for him everything   is summed up in one word doubt and it was exactly  like that by creating doubt that philip morris set   out to discredit dr. preston martin study  on processed meat and cancer in children   the proof is there in the vast database  of the tobacco documents by typing Susan   Preston Martin you get hundreds of  hits and all in the Philip Morris file   the researchers named crops up regularly in the  titles of memos letters and internal reports   the multinational believed her study on hot dogs  would reopen the debate surrounding nitrites from   the 1970s so it paid scientists to go through  her work with a fine-tooth comb in order to   find any weak points even her contracts  and grant pays past under the microscope   basically anything that could be used against her  and weakened her in the eyes of the government and   the press stanton Glantz only learned of this case  through the documents we showed him the approaches   that they used to attack the person doing the  research linking cured meats with cancer were   the standard things they do one is to go through  her work with a fine-tooth comb and find every   little thing they could possibly complain about  and because the issues tend to be fairly technical   you know if you're a politician if you're a  reporter unless you're a highly specialized   reporter all you hear is well this person said  there was something bad and this other person   said they didn't know what they were talking about  and so these efforts to go after the scientists   and to discredit the scientists there's a key  element of a much larger strategy to just gum   up the entire policy-making process to the  point where nothing happens that translates   into hundreds of billions of dollars of sales and  profits for them so the whole game is just slowed   down in the documents on dr. Preston Martin other  even more Machiavellian scenarios were studied   here it was suggested that talks be held with the  scientist and here a proposed seminar in order to   lure her the aim to influence her and even shape  the conclusions of her future studies the common   point of these documents they all come from the  same lobbying firm multinational business services   inc already hired by philip morris to contest the  effects of passive smoking on health and headed   by a certain gym tot see a master of influence  amazingly in Washington the heart of American   power this lobbyist is still well established as  he never answered our requests for an interview   we went to see him without an appointment with  our documents in hand and a hidden camera yes   she do you have an appointment no no I was just  looking for him because I called from France the good news American lobbyists can be  welcoming we even managed to have Jim   taught C on his cell phone Jim can you hear me  because you have set up a strategy to discredit   her work for Oscar Mayer so I wanted to know  if you like the welcoming lobbyists you love   the angry one please leave now do I need to  leave yes please leave I am ordering you out   now get the [ __ ] now take the flagon [ __  ] outta here and do not come back thank you pity it had to end like that in the end mr.  tot see did a great job well at least for the   industrialists back then his auntie Preston Martin  arguments were brought into the media spotlight   by this health journalist on a major national TV  channel a few days after the publication of the   famous study let's get back to our hot dog study  remember they asked the people did you eat a hot   dog they didn't ask them did you put it in a bun  did you put ketchup on it did you put mustard on   it now you might be saying who really cares one  way or the other but that's important because   it may be that it's not the hot dog at all that's  causing this increased risk of cancer maybe it's   the bun maybe it's the ketchup maybe it's the  mustard so you have to be careful when you read   these studies not to say oh this causes this the  powers that be didn't go any farther the 1970s   nitrites file which could have resurfaced remained  locked away you're probably wondering what Susan   Preston Martin thinks the woman targeted by the  lobby we showed her the documents and what upset   her the most was seeing that fellow scientists  had played along with the industrialists these   professors will get paid a huge amount to do  a review by in this case probably the American   media Institute I mean thousands and thousands  of dollars they probably get more from doing this   kind of thing than they do from their regular jobs  seeing your name like this in all these documents   my goodness they I gave a lot of people a lot of  work were you aware of this well I was aware that   that the processed meat community was concerned  but I'm not aware of all the extent of this   twenty years on and she had turned the page  not of interests anymore that's how the public   awareness of science goes that's it of interest  and then it's not of interest assuming you did   all that work but today oh but it doesn't it  doesn't matter I mean still in the literature   and it may includes people in future and it has  influence people in the past and that's fine   but another scientist involved in the case  has enjoyed a much more flourishing career   a scientist paid by the American Meat Institute  to shoot down Susan Preston Martin's work david   Clure felt today david kerfeld is head of the US  government's nutrition program and he's invited   all over the world for scientific conferences  where he gives his experts point of view totally   independently I'd like to introduce reasons why I  think meat is important component of healthy diet on that day he was in France speaking to  scientists from around the world about meat   and the link between processed meat and  cancer in order to denounce backed up by   PowerPoint the climate of fear panic and even  hysteria and we know because we were there it   was right at the start of our investigation  when we barely knew about nitrites and had   the need of enlightened specialists to help  us so there are new reviews published this   year that say nitrite is not harmful and  others that say it is harmful I don't think   anybody really knows definitively what  what the answer is a few months after   this handshake when we had learned more about  the industry of doubt bells started ringing so we took advantage of our trip to  America to ask him for another interview only this time with a lot more cards of our sleeve   do you remember being paid by the American  Meat Institute no never no I was interested   in scientists I called Susan Preston  Martin yes do you know her I know who   she is I do not know her personally do you  remember writing a paper on her yes for the   American Meat Institute no I found this and it  was prepared for the American Meat Institute okay I'm there this is something different yes  I this was done 20 years ago roughly so I I had   forgotten about that do you remember how much  you were paid for this evaluation no I do not as   I said it was 20 or 25 years ago you didn't know  when you were working for the American entities   you that Philip Morris was owning Oscar Mayer  I'm not gonna say yes or no at this point in   time because it's more than 20 years ago did you  know that the tobacco strategy Muto was doubt is   our product no I never heard that no no doubt was  your product - um that was not mine that was not   my intent my intent was to do an evaluation if I  had read these papers and found that there were   not shortcomings in the papers that they were  not deficiencies in the papers I don't think I   would have criticized them but don't you think  that your point of view would be stronger and   your argument stronger if I hadn't found that you  had been once paid by the American Meat Institute   no I don't I don't think that would change it  wouldn't change my point of view it might change   your point of view that you tend to not believe  what I'm saying because 25 years ago I got some   amount of money that I don't remember we're making  progress he can't remember how much but he does   remember getting paid but you have to understand  that the industry is a money-making business so   they're very risk-averse they would not fund a  study that someone were proposed to them that   eating hot dogs increases the risk of childhood  cancer why would they fund that you know they   would only fund something that says proposes that  childhood cancer is prevented by eating more hot   dogs or there's no relationship you know they're  they're not gonna fund a study that is bad for   their business well elite he's honest much of the  meat industry's lobbying depends on collaboration   with paid scientists and that's still how things  work during a conference on processed meats and   cancer in Lyon a French scientist confirmed it  Denis Coffey is a reference on the subject an   internationally renowned expert he speaks and  acts casually and doesn't balk at telling us   how things work at scientific events the source  municipal is equally evil one lawsuit Tillman's   a trick me disabled in each iteration determine  we get to point wiki present of the real in 2d   after they contrast computermen 30 congressional  concern yes systemic moe kamijo dude Famicon costa   heart position did a MOSFET is a pure osseous  with a twig enough a to visit semi-intelligent   contraire took Venusian Chicano can dude meet  Titian and Estella 2d bomba il Moro guy emote   had helped me addition to controlling see 50/50  specialty CDT the socket rod is not contra Israeli   parents people a ad goes on shoe which you didn't  poop on over scope a few days later professor Corp   a sent us some names and photos of scientists  he suspects of being close to the food industry among them two Americans he came across at a  conference on meat and cancer Angelou Kowski   and Nathan Brian as we checked out these  scientists profiles we discovered a document   which should certainly never have been on the  web an internal report issued by the American   Meat Institute it lays out the strategy for  influencing the decisions of high-profile   organizations this organization is the ia  RC the International Agency for research   on cancer this institution based in the old  France is the worldwide reference on cancer in 2006 ia RC scientists classified  nitrites in the probably carcinogenic   category of products group 2a  and that was bad for business so lobbyists are fighting to have  this classification changed page 64   of a document change in the IAR see  nitrate nitrate classification from   2a to 2b or possibly carcinogenic products  the strategy has a name IAS each challenge it notably involves the two scientists we were   interested in andrew milk  outski and nathan Bryan's armed with our brand-new file it was time to set  off to meet the meat sectors heavyweights welcome   to Nashville Tennessee the capital of country  music and notably the hometown of Johnny Cash it's here that the American Meat  Institute is holding its annual   conference in this huge building to  be precise the meat industry in the   US is very very big business all of  the world's biggest players are here Smithfield number one in Portland with a turnover  of 14 billion dollars a year Cargill the giant   with thirty three billion dollars a year in crude  alone and Tyson the all divisions record holder   this year will make with all of our divisions  between beef pork poultry and prepared between   37 billion and 40 billion dollars in revenue it's  a very small company we checked it's over forty 1   billion dollars after half an hour we spot a face  in the crowd that rings a bell that woman they're   tasting nibbles at every stand that's right page  92 of the IAR sea challenge document here with the   short hair the American Meat Institute senior  vice president of public affairs Janet Riley excuse me please sorry hello a lieutenant Ilia  yes hello I'm sorry man go I'm working for   force do unprocess Newton dancer and I have  a question about the document I found it is   this document do you know it I'm sorry dude  okay no no actually I wasn't registered but   I have some important question yes of course  I have my journalist card just a question   I wanted to know what do you know about the  ER challenge the a our challenge here until   I know what I'm doing it's about that right  answer thank you no this is mine sorry okay   so much for our interview having been escorted  outside this is my press constant okay and been   ordered to show ID we try one last time it's  close dude it looks like what tobacco industry   did for DK that's your opinion that's your  opinion what we're doing is providing the   science-based peer-reviewed evidence that our  products are safe and you see right there but   are you paying those scientists know you've  got that camera rolling don't you luckily   for such cases we always have a plan B on the  list of ia RC challenge scientists there was   one who agreed to see us the first on the list  Andrew mil Kowski we head to Madison Wisconsin this city in the north of the United  States is home to Andrew mill Kowski   and the company of hot dog king Oscar Mayer  who we came across in the Preston Martin case   the scientist worked for this company for 30  years he now teaches at the University but   he doesn't hide his proximity to the American  meat lobby presented with our ia RC challenge   documents he acknowledges everything or  almost so did the meat industry paid you   for this I received some compensation from  my time as well as the others how much I don't know thousands or tens of thousands of  dollars small amounts small amounts can we have   an idea no no defending nitrite seems to be a very  big thing for industry looking for a substitutes   has been attempted and was a a total failure  something as chemically simple as nitrite and   as unique as nitrite having a substitute has not  been possible to anyone's ability but if there is   a small risk of getting cancer don't you think  it's important to try to find a solution that   is where we disagree because I do not believe  that that risk is is true you think there's no   risk at all I think the risk is unquantifiable  and unknown if it had indeed exists on hearing   that we pulled this expression so for Andrew  Malkowski the colorectal cancer the hundreds   of studies on the dangers of nitrites none of  it exists off you go nothing to do with it in   the United States it's thanks to scientists like  milk cows key that the meat industry has been able   to cut another notch in its belt surprisingly  in the health-conscious state of California this imposing building is home to the state  cabinet-level California Environmental Protection   Agency we have an appointment with Sam Nelson  deputy director for external and legislative   affairs he'll show us a document that doesn't  exist in any other American state so this is the   lists it's a list of substances judged dangerous  to man by the state of California to do business   here manufacturers are banned from using these  substances or they are obliged to warn consumers   and it's very restrictive because there are over  800 products on the list so good example that   would be smoke there's other things like benzene  that would be something you know we have common in   things like exhaust and then here we have aspirin  aspirin yeah it's a special note especially for   pregnant women oh here's kind of a an odd one but  you know things like breath and burn you know if   you want to eat this go for it but be aware that  you maybe don't want to eat it every single day so   we don't find nitrate nitrate is not on the list  it's been years since nitrites have been targeted   but procedures have never been seen through when  we believe the chemical meets the criteria for   listing we post what's known as a notice of intent  to list and that triggers a period in which people   can submit public comments on whether it's desert  does not meet the criteria we review the comments   before making a final decision to complete listing  regarding nitrites here are the comments that   swung the scales of the seven contributions six  come from food industry lobbyists and with 31   pages the winner is Andrew mill Kowski before the  interview we show Sam Delson all our documents on   mil Kowski the ia RC challenge and the attempts at  influencer face was an avalanche of proof gathered   during months of investigation he ends up taking  out his cell phone to take photos however in   answering our questions he seems less inspired  we it's their business if they think that they   can influence a decision beyond the signs but we  we let the science do the talking do you think   it might happen that sometimes you are manipulated  by the industries we do our best to make decisions   based solely on the science regardless of whatever  pressure or attempts at persuasion may be made by   any outside group okay California will re-examine  the dangers of nitrites but not before next year for the lobby it's a mini victory time gained  and profits not lost in Europe a new study on   nitrites was expected in December 2015 almost  a year later it still has not been published

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Length: 52min 26sec (3146 seconds)

Published: Sun Jul 19 2020

Reddit Comments

[u/IvyRoseOrre]

After perusing Google scholar for a few minutes, most articles published since 2019 are looking for ways to reduce the use of nitrates and levels of nitrosamines.

[u/umnz]

Oh look a Chinese propaganda account in the wild.

[u/The-Flying-Sloth]

Wow, this is my first time seeing a Chinese propaganda bot in the wild !!!!

[u/LegoManiac2000]

The meat lobby, sounds like a cool name for a bar

[u/RedDirtNurse]

Okay, so ... I thought I'd better watch this documentary in its entirety prior to commenting.

I saw a lot of comments mentioning China, so I wanted to see where there was a Chinese angle in the information provided. I didn't see anything at all. I'm not a Chinese apologist, I really couldn't care less about China (except the bullshit where Scott (Scotty from marketing) Morrison is fucking us over).

What I did observe was influence and corruption coming from "big meat" in the USA.

I guess if people want to eat processed meat, that's totally fine - I don't mind it myself from time to time.

I suppose all that may be required would be appropriate food labelling; if something is hazardous to the health of consumers, then just label it so. People will still eat bacon, ham processed meats, hot dogs, etc. Whatever.

This was a good documentary I thought.

[u/DeputyCartman]

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it." - Upton Sinclair.

God bless lobbyists who push for laws and regulations that they know harms public health. May they all get cancer from the gussied-up products they lobby for.

[u/The_Muffintime]

Ni hao

[u/atimskcal]

Very good! The meat industry is a disgusting monster.

[u/Kbeans226]

As someone that loves to eat meat and always suspected this to be true: I won’t stop eating it, but I am 100% behind lab grown meat and hope it becomes the norm. Factory farming & lot of mass production processes are bad for us.