The Killing of Trayvon Martin

hello everyone so today I'm gonna talk about the killing of Trayvon Martin by George Zimmerman but I feel like I need to explain myself and justify this a little before we get going here it'll be fair to ask why now five years later do you want to talk about this and the answer there is that I still believe it to be relevant the generalities of the incidents a black person in this case trayvon martin is killed by a white person in this case george zimmerman in unclear or ambiguous circumstances and then later the killer receives either no or relatively little legal punishment the names and the locations change but the general outline remains the same and the feeling held by a lot of black people and more racially conscious people of other races is that these people probably would not have been killed had they been white or if they have still been killed the justice system would have treated the killers much less leniently and this can be a hard thing to prove we're talking about certain likelihoods and probabilities as subconscious or otherwise hidden biases and we don't have another America in which Trayvon Martin was a white teenager walking home from the store to see what would have happened differently we're about the case it's also easy to examine only the particulars of each incident in isolation and therefore avoid considering the overall trends each case is easy to excuse if you're looking for excuses Trayvon Martin hit George Zimmerman so Zimmerman was justified in defending himself Tamir rice had a toy gun and you know that could have been mistaken for a real gun so you know therefore etc there's always an excuse however valid that excuses with the cases that receive a lot of media attention a useful comparison here is the shooting of levar Edward Jones now this shooting was not a particularly high-profile case a Google search for levar Edward Jones only gives 1,300 results compared to the 1.6 million for Trayvon Martin for instance and I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people hadn't heard of this shooting so a very brief overview then September the 4th of 2014 South Carolina State Trooper Sean grubart pulled up behind levar with Jones as he accessed his vehicle at a gas station grubart asked Jones to get his license and registration and when Jones reached for them grubart panicked and pulled is gone and fired several times hitting Jones in the hip now I'll link the video in the description and avoid showing it here but it's pretty much as I described so why didn't this case get as much media attention as some others well there's a few factors and they're all rather depressing to think about to be honest at the first is that there is a clear record of the incident it happened in plain sight in view of grubitz dashcam head the second is that the person who was shot survived and could thus later argue their case and the third is that grubart was very quickly fired arrested and charged with felony assault and battery so there's very little to argue about this case it's clear-cut the person who was shot was entirely innocent the police officer was clearly in the wrong and that's the end of that you know there's no excuse for that one and that's the important thing here there not being an excuse or a justification but let's imagine an alternate version of the shooting of levar Edward Jones what if the gunshot had been fatal and the person who was shot wasn't around to tell his side of the story and what if the dashcam had been angled slightly differently or didn't pick up the incident or alternatively what if the dashcam footage had been not so mysteriously lost well then the officer in this imaginary case could have then said anything he liked to justify the shooting he looked dangerous he said he was going to kill me he grabbed for my gun whatever and there's the justification now we see that blame is always individualized in these sorts of incidents the black purse knew a shot or killed is always considered at fault up until it's an obvious and unavoidable fact that they were innocent now completely absent from this framework our societal factors or racial biases or any sort of wider consideration of trend only one person can be at fault it's either the person who was shot or the person who did the shooting and that's the end of that and so we come to the point of my video this video is aimed at people who might subconsciously even reach for the easy excuse to justify these kinds of incidents now I don't think these people are Capitol are racists necessarily just that they might be harboring some biases that can be exposed with the little effort and a bit of deeper thinking about the topic and we're going to examine one case in particular the shooting of Trayvon Martin we're going to look at the various justifications given for Zimmerman's actions and see if they hold water and then afterwards I've come up with a clever way if I do say so myself of proving that bias exists in reactions to cases like this so stick about if you want to see that my intention here is that by getting people to stop and think about just one case they might not be so quick to jump to conclusions for similar cases my hope is that this video can be linked to people who might try to excuse the actions of george zimmerman and hopefully they'll sit through it and maybe take a few points on board so okay i'll start out here by giving an as neutral as possible accounts of the incident on february 26th 2012 trayvon martin who was visiting family at the retreat at twin lakes in sanford florida walked to a local store at about 7:00 p.m. on his return from the store he was spotted by george zimmerman the organizer of the local neighborhood watch who mistook him for a criminal and called the police Zimmerman described Martin as looking as if he was up to no good and possibly on drugs after observing Martin for a time Zimmerman left his vehicle to continue to follow him when he moved out of sight this was followed by the police dispatcher asking Zimmerman if he was following Martin - which Zimmerman replied that he was the dispatcher then asked him not to do that Zimmerman was also armed with a nine millimeter handgun for which he had a concealed carry permit after being unable to locate Martin Zimmerman ended his with the police dispatcher instructing them to call him back when an officer arrived on the scene shortly after ending the call Zimmerman and Martin met at the top of the t-shaped intersection between the rows of houses a physical altercation ensued during which Zimmerman received a nosebleed and some light abrasive wounds to the back of his head and Trayvon Martin was shot fatally in the chest police arrived on the scene shortly thereafter so that's the basic outline of the events containing only the facts that are beyond dispute of course quite a few other things happened or probably happened but those need to be talked about in more detail so what do we think about this incident well let me start by saying that I agree with Zimmerman being found not guilty at trial now that is not because I do not believe him to be at fault because he was he definitely was but I believe he was overcharged Zimmerman was charged with second-degree murder which requires the prosecution's approved beyond the reasonable doubt that Zimmerman intended to kill Trayvon Martin and without an eyewitness to the start of the physical altercation as we'll see that is impossible to prove in court the start of the altercation is what is important here you see the first justification for the shooting of Trayvon Martin is that he injured Zimmerman and therefore Zimmerman could have reasonably feared for his life and thus was in the clear to defend himself now the problem with this arguments is that that same justification for Zimmerman's actions also works in Reverse Trayvon Martin was also injured much worse than Zimmerman he was fatally injured and therefore by the same logic he was legally in the clear to kill Zimmerman in self-defense as well so we're in a weird legal limbo here it certainly can't be the case that two people are just legally allowed to fight to the death because they both fear for their own lives so what matters here is who initiated the physical altercation without knowing that Zimmerman's injuries could have been inflicted by Trayvon Martin acting legally in self-defense and a lot of people who were outraged by this case probably fought with stuffication that a stranger following you at night and chasing you down a dark alley was itself enough to justify defending yourself physically as for actual hard courtroom evidence though we have relatively little to go on we have Zimmerman's accounts of the incident at all through his written statement his interviews with the police and a recorded walk through the event conducted the following day yeah but that is obviously not reliable by itself for what I hope are obvious reasons also Zimmerman provably lies at several times during his recounting of the incident which we'll get to shortly so without a witness to or recording of Zimmerman starting the fight and with no other indication that Zimmerman actually wanted to kill Martin there isn't really enough here for a murder conviction what you can prove is that Zimmerman was in the wrong at several points he was incorrect in his profiling of Martin as a criminal he was incorrect to leave his vehicle to pursue Martin he had several times acted recklessly and idiotically but that doesn't prove he actually wanted to murder Trayvon Martin and indeed if we read the Sanford Police Department's report after they eventually decided to recommend charging Zimmerman with something they said there is probable cause for charging Zimmerman with manslaughter stating the encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman if he had remained in his vehicle and awaited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he'd identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiate a dialogue in an effort to dispel each party's concerns there is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter and yes the prosecutors would have had a much easier time proving manslaughter in court mainly because of all the aforementioned lies that Zimmerman can be shown to have told so let's talk about some of those and also examine another anti Trayvon Martin argument this one being that during the time Zimmerman was on the phone Trayvon Martin had enough time to get home to safety and people generally use this fact to suggest that since Trayvon Martin did not return home immediately he was there for looking to ambush or otherwise confront Zimmerman now one can come up with several possible scenarios for why Martin did not return home immediately firstly he was on the phone to a friend at the time so maybe he simply wanted to finish his conversation before reaching the house and so he paused early secondly maybe he was sufficiently freaked out by the strange guy who was following him around and decided that leading that person to his house might be a bad idea remember Martin had no clue who Zimmerman was or why he was following him so that is another possible scenario these possibilities though are actually entirely unnecessary let's go with the idea that Trayvon Martin did hide or even walked all the way home before changing his mind and deciding he was gonna confront Zimmerman so he marched right back up the path with the intention of doing just that now the problem here is that confront does not mean attack and it certainly does not mean kill Martin does not know what's going on remember he doesn't know that the police have been called or that Zimmerman has it gone all that he's about to be shot with it he's under no legal responsibility to do anything in particular so long as he does not break the law he does not have to return home he can walk up and down the street all night if he likes and there's nothing illegal about approaching someone to ask why they're following you criticizing Martin for not returning home immediately is cynically placing the blame on him for not anticipating and avoiding his own killing even if Martin did double back to confront Zimmerman that still tells us nothing about who initiated the physical confrontation secondly here this criticism of Martin's actions also applies equally or even more so to Zimmerman the top of the t-intersection is much closer to where Zimmerman's truck was parked van where Trayvon Martin's house was and Zimmerman had the exact same amount of time to get back to his truck if that's what he wished to do if you're going to criticize trayvon martin for still being present when zimmerman got off the phone then you have to apply that criticism to zimmerman also unlike martin however Zimmerman is still around to inform us why he was still in the alley between the houses instead of back at his truck and his explanation for still being there as it turns out makes no sense whatsoever firstly let's go through the transcript of Zimmerman's call to the police and highlight all the relevant information then we'll look at Zimmerman's walkthrough of the events the next day and compare the two accounts so the relevant parts of the police call are as follows firstly Zimmerman gives the dispatcher the address of the clubhouse at retreat view circle then later in the call he gives the more precise location of his truck go straight past the clubhouse make a left and then past the mailboxes that's where his truck was then the dispatcher asks what addressed Zimmerman is parked in front of one time and Zimmerman responds that he does not know and at the end of the call the following exchange takes place the dispatcher asks Zimmerman if he wants to meet the police near the mailboxes where his truck is and Zimmerman agrees at first but then when the dispatcher attempts to confirm this meeting place Zimmerman changes his mind and says actually could you have them call me and I'll tell them where I'm at indicating that he was not planning to be where his truck currently was now let's look at the recording of Zimmerman's reenactment - the incident for the police because there are a few key points where his account differs here and still looking around at the houses and so on then dispatcher said where did he go what direction did he go and I said I don't know I lost because he cut down here and made it right to injuries Lane he made a right in there and they said what direction did he go in and I said I don't know I can't see him and they said can you get to somewhere where you can see him and I said yeah I can at this interaction where the dispatcher asks Zimmerman if he can get to some where he can see Trayvon Martin is not in the transcript and is likely a later embellishment by Zimmerman to justify his continued following of Martin in his truck yes and I saw these and I saw him walking back that way and then cut through the back of the houses they looked back and he noticed me to cut back through the houses I was still on the phone with non-emergency anything and then he came back and he started walking up towards the grass and then came down and circled my car and I told the operator that he was certainly my car I didn't hear if he said anything right but he had his hand in his waistband at this interaction where Zimmerman observes Martin's circle his truck and informs the operator about it is not present in the transcript Zimmerman does mention that Martin is looking at him at one point but at no point mentions Martin Circle the truck it's unlikely that Martin would have had enough time to do this in the brief time in the call before Zimmerman left his truck and also unlikely Zimmerman would not have mentioned it to the dispatcher this is likely a later embellishment in order to make Martin appear more threatening and I think I told the and they said where are you and I could not remember the name of the stream because I don't live on this street right retreat new circle goes in a circle right and I said I don't know and he goes we need an address and I said I don't know an address I think I gave them my address and they said give us directions to get to you and I said if you tell the police to go straight at the clubhouse and make a left my truck will be there and again they asked me where he went and what direction he went in and I said I don't know and then I thought to get out and look for a street sign right so I got out of my car and I start walking go ahead okay because I didn't see a street sign here but I knew if I went straight through that that's retrieve you circle the house here in front of and there's no address firstly the dispatcher does not repeatedly ask for an address in the transcript this is a fabrication by Zimmerman in order to create a pretext for him to leave the car secondly his described actions here make no sense I mean were first expected to believe that a man who has lived in the neighborhood for several years and is the self-appointed head of the neighborhood watch can't remember what street he's on in a neighborhood with free streets that seems rather unlikely to me or whatever next up Zimmerman is parked on twin trees Lane and claims he can't give an address because he's at the back of the houses but as he's saying this we can see behind him some houses which do face onto twin trees lanes so his claim that he has to walk fruits a retreat view circle in order to find an address is clearly incorrect he could just look at the much closer houses that do actually face onto twin trees Lane so I that's when I walked straight through here to get the address this officer and then they said I say he's not here they said but you still want he would come and I said yes and they said where do you want me to come to and I said you know what just tell him to meet me at my truck next to the clubhouse if you go straight in the clubhouse and makes a left there I mean this interaction in which Zimmerman informs the dispatcher that he wants to meet the police by his truck is the actual opposite of what appears in the transcript the dispatcher is the one to suggest that and Zimmerman instead proposes then calling him back to see where he is this lie is also repeated in one of the police interviews where Zimmerman claims the dispatcher asked where he wanted to meet the police and he said his car so what does all this add up to well I think it's fairly clear that all this rubbish about needing to find an address is an obvious fabrication the dispatcher already had an address they were directing police to and at no point asked Zimmerman to go walking to find another one and even if they had done that there were much closer addresses available for Zimmerman to go and check and even if Zimmerman had needed to walk through to retrieve few circle he lived on retreat few circle and I simply refused to believe that he forgot the name of his own street and needed to go and physically look at a street sign to see where he was now the probable truth is simply that Zimmerman was still looking for Trayvon Martin intending to be the hero and catch the bad guy because quote these [ __ ] always get away now Zimmerman also tells several lies relating to the initial confrontation between him and Martin and let's take a look at those firstly there is a major discrepancy in Zimmerman's story about the location where he was knocked down by Martin from his written statements he says as I headed back to my vehicle the suspect suspect emerged from the darkness and said you got a problem I said no the suspect said you do now as I looked and tried to find my phone to dial nine-one-one the suspect punched me in the face I fell backwards onto my back the suspect got on top of me so Zimmerman here makes it sound as if he was immediately dropped by the first punch and this is echoed in his interview with the police he punched me in the nose at that point I fell down were you still standing at this point no ma'am okay I fell to the ground when he punched me the first time so that's Zimmerman restating and confirming that he fell at the first hit and here's why this makes no sense if Zimmerman really was walking back to his truck from retreat view circle where he was apparently looking for a street sign to tell him what the name of the street he lived on was called and if he was doing that he would only need to walk across the top of the T intersection to get back to the truck now the problem with this account is that Martin's body was found a few houses down the path between the buildings here's a photograph taken from around the location where Zimmerman first claimed he fell to the ground showing Martin's body in the distance so what does this mean well either Zimmerman's story about meeting Trayvon at the top of the intersection is untrue and he was actually punched to the ground 40 feet down the path between the buildings with no explanation of why he should be there or his story about being dropped with the Feres punch is untrue because if he'd fell to the ground at the top of the intersection then Trayvon Martin's body being found a few houses down the path makes no sense and let's watch Zimmerman realize in real-time about this aspect of his story there's a load of old crap he was about there but he was walking towards me yes sir I believe like I said I was already past that so I didn't see exactly where he came from but he was about where you were and I said I don't have a problem and I wait I had left it in a different pocket and I went I look now in my pant pocket and said you got a problem now and then he was here and he punched me in the face so I hear brightest but around here I don't remember exactly and I I fell down he pushed me down somehow he got on top of me now all of this trying to push him away from me while moving down the path stuff is completely absent from any of zimmerman's earlier accounts of the incident and is also a bit suspect by itself if Zimmerman was trying to escape why didn't he go to the lit streets where his truck was you know why instead move further down the dark path towards Trayvon Martin's house incidentally I don't know it's a possibility obviously but the fact that Zimmerman neglected to mention this in his written statement and police interviews and made it sound as though he was knocked down immediately makes me doubt his story here Zimmerman also under cells the distance down the path that he fell to the ground he moves to about the location of this tree but we can see from the image that Martin's body was actually found about another house lengths past the tree now okay it was dark and a traumatic experience so I can't expect Zimmerman to be that accurate but it is still worth pointing out that Zimmerman's account in this recorded walkthrough contradicts both his previous statements and the crime-scene photographs so why would simmerman lie here he asked with mock sincerity well obviously because he's trying to give himself the best possible justification for his actions Zimmerman's account includes Martin being the first aggressor which is very important but also Martin explicitly telling Zimmerman that he was going to kill him and then reaching for Zimmerman's gun and I mean why not rights if you're the only witness to a shooting you committed you may as well make it airtight I'm surprised he didn't have Trayvon Martin say I Trayvon Martin hereby pledge to kill you and will do so shortly this therefore gives you the full legal justification to respond with lethal force and events of your own life I mean you know why not now the idea that Trayvon Martin would at first run away from Zimmerman and then see red and decide to double back and actually murder him strains belief somewhat I mean I don't believe simmerman chased down Martin intending to kill him in some racist rage but nor do I believe that Trayvon Martin while he was still on the phone to a friend mind silently decided to double back and murder Zimmerman so what do we think actually happened well we're admittedly moving into the realm of speculation here I do have a theory of what was probably the most likely version of offense and I'll give that here for whatever good it's worth so simmerman isn't looking for a street sign obviously and nor is he intending to be where his truck currently is and we know that because of the end of Simmons police call so he's still poking about looking for Martin he doesn't want this [ __ ] to get away then him and Martin meet on the intersection behind the houses as Zimmerman's friend who's still on the phone with testified in court that at this point Martin stated Zimmerman was still following him so that backs up this theory of what Zimmerman was up to so let's get into Zimmerman's mindset here he thinks Martin is a dangerous criminal suspect he's up to no good he might be on drugs and Zimmerman states he's got his hand in his waistband and later something's wrong with him he's got something in his hands indicating he thinks Martin might be armed so then you're in a dark alley and you're confronted by who you suspect to be an armed and dangerous criminal who's on drugs now what would you do in that situation well Zimmerman claims he reached for his phone to dial nine-one-one now I don't buy this at all you know excuse me mr. dangerous armed criminal could you hold still for a few minutes while I call the police on you right in front of you no that doesn't make any sense to me what would make sense to me in this situation is someone reaching for that gun now there's a few issues here firstly Florida is a concealed-carry state and Zimmerman had a concealed carry permit open carry is generally banned now if you're correct in your assessment the person being a dangerous armed criminal then of course you'd be in the right to reach for your gun to defend yourself but if you later turned out to be wrong and you're dangerous armed criminal turned out to be an unarmed teenager walking home from the store then you're [ __ ] because drawing reaching for or flashing your gun would make you the aggressor an initiator of the physical confrontation and then you're going to prison so beyond my own estimation of what was the most likely series of events what evidence do I have that Zimmerman reached for his gun well nothing that would stand up in court admittedly but there is something else that leads me to believe that is what happened from but he was about where you were and I said I don't have a problem and I week I had left it in a different pocket I went they said you got a problem now and then he was here he punch me in the face so simmerman here indicates that he tried to find his phone to call 9-1-1 but he had moved his phone to a different pocket and looks down to his right side to indicate that's where he reached for it and this is significant because this is also the area of his body where his gun was now according to Zimmerman he had only just got off the phone with the non-emergency police line so he had just pour his phone away only a few moments ago according to his timeline and now he suddenly can't remember where it is so Zimmerman when confronted by Hugh Fink's is a dangerous armed criminal in a dark alley coincidentally reaches to check for his phone in the right side pocket where his gun happens to be I don't know it is possible but it's awfully convenient and now you might be thinking why would simmerman bother to lie about this he's the only living witness to the start of the fight so he can make up whatever story he likes and the answer there is that Zimmerman at this point knew there was a witness to the incident but didn't have any indication how much of the event they had actually been witnessed to from Zimmerman's interfere with the police on the night of the shooting he says then somebody comes out and I couldn't see there was a flashlight in my head so I asked if it was a police officer and he said no it was a witness but he was calling the police and I said the police are on their way so present in Zimmerman's mind during the police walkthrough is the existence of a witness who could have possibly seen any part of the event which means he needs to account for his actions including that of reaching for his gun so that's why his phone goes missing only seconds after he put it away and why he not so coincidentally reaches to that area of his body right before Martin hits him so actually Zimmerman faced with what he incorrectly thought was a dangerous criminal reached for his gun and Trayvon Martin chased down an alley by a stranger who then reached for his gun defended himself is that what happened well probably we can't know for sure there was actually no witness to the starts of the fight no CCTV footage and that series of events while likely wouldn't stand up in court I haven't proved anything there and that's because it's impossible to prove Zimmerman should never have been charged with something that it was impossible to prove in court and I'd like to highlight something here in conclusion to this section I just talked about the Trayvon Martin case without once descending into the ridiculous character assassinations that were rampant in the American media during the trial Trayvon Martin smoked weed you know that drug that notoriously makes people really angry and confrontational Trayvon Martin posted a photograph of a gun on social media that's apparently more of an indication of violent tendencies than owning carrying and actually shooting someone with a gun now this is the other tactic for justifying Zimmerman's actions saying Trayvon was obviously a bad guy since he did X or Y common teenage activity and that's just disgusting and shameful behavior to be honest until the legal punishment for skipping school or smoking weed or whatever is the death penalty people can stuff those sorts of justifications right up their back so anyway well I hope I have proved during that little analysis of the Trayvon Martin case is that there is no Avenue whatsoever for laying blame upon Trayvon Martin and again in summary any injury Zimmerman sustained could have been perfectly legally inflicted unless you have evidence that Trayvon Martin starts at the fight Zimmerman's injuries are no justification Trayvon Martin still being between the houses and not returning home is also no justification Zimmerman also had no reason to be there and even if Martin did confront Zimmerman that doesn't prove who initiated the physical confrontation which is the important thing there is nothing you can accuse Martin off that is not also true of Zimmerman and so the most Pro Zimmerman position I will accept as legitimate here is one of complete neutrality the only logical explanation I have for explaining why people would actually openly justify Zimmerman's actions is because they are racially biased whether consciously or not absolutely none of the evidence implicates Martin as doing anything illegal at any point other than the testimony of a man who has an enormous incentive to lie and thus whose account cannot be trusted if you favor Zimmerman's account of the incident you are by process of elimination either a fool or racially biased now I stated earlier that I could prove that a racial bias exists in the response to cases like this and so let's take a look at that and for this last section of the video we need to know about the shooting of lavoy finicum so on January 2nd 2016 an armed group led by Ammon Bundy of the 2014 Bundy standoff seized and occupied the National Wildlife Refuge in Harney County in Oregon they did this for some stupid reason whatever it doesn't matter On January 26th two trucks carrying Ammon Bundy lavoy finicum and others left the refuge to travel to a meeting in an adjacent County and the FBI used this opportunity to intercept the trucks and arrest the group one truck stopped but the other of which lavoy finicum was the driver led the police on a high-speed chase with lavoy finicum shouting that the only way the police could stop him was to shoot him a mile down the road fennekin's truck encountered an FBI roadblock where he crashed left the truck armed with a gun and approached police who fatally shot him now whatever you think about the legitimacy of the police shooting of lavoy finicum the facts are that he was involved in an armed takeover an occupation of a government building led the police on a high-speed chase told the police he wouldn't stop until he was killed and crashed his car at a police roadblock and then approached them armed with a gun and it really is amazing what you have to do to get the police to shoot you if you're an older white guy in a cowboy hat and all of this was recorded by both a police helicopter and camera footage from inside the truck and I want to make clear here that I'm not celebrating or laughing about the man's death in any way but it was entirely avoidable by him for the other truck that stopped when the police asked all occupants were arrested peacefully lavoy finicum did not have to die and it was clearly his own actions that brought about his shooting so why am I telling you about this incident well it serves as a very useful comparison to the shootings of various young black men including Trayvon Martin because thanks to the permanent record of the internet it means that I get to do this Keith rodebush on Twitter says finicum was simply murdered by scared cops who don't know how to handle it when someone else is armed and trained finicum never hurts anyone for Trayvon Martin however Keef says my solemn prayer is that Trayvon will serve to teach young black Americans the [ __ ] like gangbanging stealing and dope smoking life is futile Hali Ammon onto assesses an innocent man was gunned la voy finicum did nothing wrong these men all of them did nothing wrong yeah other than occupy a Federal Building and lead the police on a high-speed chase holy for Trayvon Martin however Holly says Trayvon was just a big black [ __ ] blue vine Oh on Twitter says it's kinda rude to forget that lavoy finicum was shot and killed while unarmed in actuality it's kinda rude to forget that he was really armed with a gun blue vino anyway for Trayvon Martin blue Oh says the death was Trayvon's fault for attacking Trayvon had no right to attack Trayvon initiated violence wai-foo kawari says one confirmed dead lavoy finicum hold these people accountable should we also hold George Zimmerman accountable though apparently not the hero George Zimmerman is going to donate money from his gun auction to fight the black lives matter terrorists what a great man ginger merritt on twitter says lavoy finicum was murdered in cold blood and then quotes a bible passage if a trayvon martin however she says God protected someone Trayvon Martin would have assaulted so God works in mysterious and apparently racially biased ways it seems declare Diane claims the voice Innokin was murdered in the first degree I bought elsewhere State Trayvon Martin was a black [ __ ] and it goes on you get the point and you can compare the shooting of the arms lavoy finicum to other shootings of unarmed black people as it turns out at radical r w on twitter says lavoy finicum was murdered in the first degree but for the case of Tamir rice the 12 year old shot by police while playing in a park they say some idiot pulled a fake gun on a cop and got shot what did he think would happen radical RW doesn't bother asking what lavoy finicum thought would happen when he ran a police roadblock however there can be no explanation for this obvious contradiction in reactions except for racial bias when an armed white criminal is considered less dangerous than an unarmed black teenager what other explanation could there possibly be so don't be like these people I guess is my point don't go for the easy excuse put some thought into your opinions and also consider why you hold those opinions that you do now I intentionally called george zimmerman white in the first minute of this video and i did that for a reason one point that was repeated constantly during the trial was that zimmerman was not white he's Hispanic and therefore this isn't a white black race thing you know which is pretty racist in itself to be honest but I called simmerman white because that is what he himself identifies us he says he's white in the police interviews because of course Hispanic isn't the skin color you can have white hispanic people and black hispanic people and whatever else claiming zimmerman to be Hispanic not white but raisin ignorant both of the facts of the case and of the relevant racial terminology so I called simmerman white early on deliberately to trip up any YouTube commenters who don't listen to arguments and don't watch the whole video so anyone who comments Zimmerman was actually Hispanic haha you're wrong beneath this video I'm here preemptively shaming you thanks a lot for watching everyone another day another depressing video I apologize I have one about the British Empire in the works I'm sure that's not gonna be too cheery either it may be eventually I'll run out of darker topics and we can talk about something pleasant for a change wouldn't that be nice thanks as always to all my patrons scrolling by right now who enable me to keep making videos like this one so if you want more videos like this consider sending me a dollar yourself and also maybe check out the other creators that I personally support on patreon all of whom are very interesting folks who creates awesome things and are definitely worth having a pika also also follow me on twitter and send me a curious cat question if you like I try to answer at least some of them righty-o thanks 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Keywords: trayvon martin, shaun jen, george zimmerman

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Length: 40min 40sec (2440 seconds)

Published: Sun Oct 01 2017

Reddit Comments

[u/aacey]

This video, the Charlottesville one, and his recent decimation of the bell curve got me thinking about the power of truth. In all of those videos, Shaun is careful to not omit anything, or exaggerate, or speculate. Just facts presented astonishingly impartially. And it is so, so persuasive.

[u/SlaugtherSam]

I am sure Trayvon's Parents are affluent enough to pay 100 Million Dollars.

Like seriously what does this human garbage think he's getting from this?

[u/gr03nR03d]

Relevant post, but maybe more relevant to try and introduce it to people in other subs, that might be on the fence about the case.

[u/OHarrier91]

Hundred million dollars

... This is the SLAPP-iest SLAPP I’ve ever seen. I’m sure the guy’s life has not been great since the trial, but at least he’s not dead like Trayvon Martin is.

Also isn’t there a Statute of Limitation on libel/slander? Ugh, I hope he fucking rots.

[u/stiggpwnz]

!Listen

[u/BreadForAll2020]

Reminder that the guy who killed TM sold the gun he used as the "gun the shot TM"

[u/porousasshole]

Shaun's a blessing

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[u/KimberlyLippington]

How is this guy still breathing? this says less about him and more about the society that keeps letting trash like this to stay alive, wtf