The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 539 | I'm Reintroducing Me (feat. Nick Cannon)

i can tell you very easily audience everyone here is well rested amazing amazing what one part off will do boy everyone's prepared alert aware salutations to y'all glad y'all could be here with us now yes we losing this i'm shutting up i'll let you all have the fight i disagree uh we started with outside inside again it's been a consistent thing as i've been attacking and provoking and antagonizing ice with i have been i also asked the gentleman off air to let me know if i'm pushing too hard on air so i could be a bit more mound is that true right no that's true you did you did you did ask [ __ ] [ __ ] what i had i learned that okay i learned that i'm highlight i went and learned that hey he can push hard sometimes so yeah that was a dump and y'all said no so i'm just gonna go farther i'm gonna just go harder now with you [ __ ] now but uh yeah so it's been pretty split uh i've been getting attacked on both ends i'm getting attacked all vacation but who cares [ __ ] you [ __ ] no you just turned up on the internet this this week we'll get there i'll get there i said first thing he said to me i seen you on the ground it's hilarious you know why it's funny yeah it is you know exactly why i don't know i don't know why oh you're talking to box yeah we all know why because you said you wasn't and i told you yes you are you went crazy i said i saw two pictures he said he wasn't doing nothing on the ground and i said that's a lot he gave him no he said you know a little bit i only saw two pictures no it was i i'm not saying hold me down i only audience to those of you that are new here i can be polarizing to those of you word so what it's just saying is true i had this talk already and it was like are you going crazy no i didn't i posted two pics and they went crazy that's all i said i only i had a clip loaded to go crazy i was ready to go crazy but they went too crazy so then i was like oh nah y'all doing a lot y'all doing a lot now that they think piecing it out i'm just trying yeah i mean get comfy a little bit you're all going crazy so you only posted two two picks the entire time is that what you're saying yes no of you know the picture you're talking about yeah okay i'm just i'm just making sure that that's posted okay oh you posted more than two i only saw two i posted food the beach like that's what i said i was like i know you're gonna give them some break i said you're gonna give them some food but that's when i was like a lot of y'all must be new to do you all know who i am yeah that's mild for you that's not going crazy i don't think i think that as people have aged and grown and like matured you got to reintroduce yourself to people sometimes yo do y'all know the [ __ ] grandma what did y'all think i was doing all these years on vacation when i wasn't posting what y'all do it just imagine it to yourself that was mad mouthed they don't they don't understand that [ __ ] eat ass on the balcony on vacation dog i once they don't get my twitter avi to me doing something that i won't even say today because of the businessman that i am you was wow are you [ __ ] me i hadn't like just knocked one type of respect for branding well that was your brand at the time sponsor it's not your brand if you ain't getting no money from it well you're on a couple shows because of it yeah i get somebody from rolling well true not the first time around anyway you don't want to be in that position as an entertainer where you find out with the rest of the world no hell no but uh yeah no ish we lose the inside outside thing to ice because man of the [ __ ] is inside everyone's inside now no i just think that people and it's deeper than that i'll tell you i was close to saying that that's why we're saying deeper than i disagree i'll tell you real quick i think people hear what they want to hear okay and they'll flip your story you hear them saying like people and i and i'm reading it now like you could say oh yo i like um blue over yellow oh [ __ ] [ __ ] you you don't like yellow nobody said i don't like yellow i said i like blue over yellow yo yellow beat and people will create what they want to create from it so what our initial argument was is we were engulfed in a culture and we were outside to live the culture [ __ ] like oh y'all ain't street [ __ ] y'all [ __ ] nobody said one thing about street [ __ ] you get what i'm saying like people take what they want to take from it so when you when you when you really take about what we said we said yo if you were not outside you did not feel certain facets of hip-hop the way [ __ ] felt it that was outside living it being around it 24 7 and consumed by it they took it and ran the [ __ ] into drugs and streets conversation no that that went from inside out that's what's all in that conversation bro cool that's all i'm saying so it was who was because you started you started saying because i was an inside person i missed out on this oh you rode to school you didn't walk you didn't do this you made it seem like my dad's hired no no no i know i did oh okay i told you all that y'all didn't know that it's a culture hold up y'all didn't know that no i know we talking about that i'm talking about it's a cultural bonding that comes along especially with little boys that play in the park that play outside that have little fights as little kids growing up it's a cultural bonding thing more so than any street [ __ ] versus whatever that's what i'm talking about you getting a mischief when you're a kid it's certain [ __ ] you do as a little boy and i think that you should experience as a little boy that molds you as a little kid my [ __ ] you in the house all day looking at [ __ ] video games you are missing out on mad [ __ ] nobody said it had to be yo we over here stealing cars versus being in the house and [ __ ] will take it to that extreme you go we all have young children right indeed yes would you want your children to grow up like you did certain facets yes and certain facets no it's not that complete of it's not a black and white question and that's my point it's not either one side of the spectrum or the other middle twice's point in this question taking our kids out of this the majority of the kids today in the demo of 18 to 28 how many of them would you say are like us versus like ice the field is like it's much more like us it was because everything evolved it's not true bro you don't think the field that's a demo question no that's a demo question but we're talking about a young demo no but when i say demographics demographics there's more to age i tease ice but these little kids in that demo [ __ ] you are my age and you was getting a ride to school that is true that's why i tease you but but i do know that those people and if they have the feeling you know what's funny to me i i saw this chart because they go was it generation x generation z millenniums all that [ __ ] right we ain't in the same demo millennials started 81. so i'm not in and it went from 81 to something like that you're close enough that's what you're doing all right i got semantics with semantic man that's exactly what i do you are correct that's what i did is correct you did i learned from the best so i had to shoot it back a little bit we are in the same ballpark my thing is this boy let me jump to high school today let me jump into that it's the same age wait what did you say you would have went to high school the same age so yeah go to high school you want ice would have been i'm saying i know i know same time yeah that's that's how i judged same age yeah when i was a senior what he would have been freshman sophomore sophomore food right no sophomore all right sophomore yo what a sam what do you think freshman yeah slice that's like oh cool alex i was a senior oh and your favorite hoagie yeah i'm totally down to let one of you [ __ ] punch me in the face i'm that for the content yo but listen wait no listen i watched the director this morning say he and i wish i had saved the clip but stupid me but he was talking about why damn what was he saying director do you remember no okay i don't remember but he was a director of some [ __ ] i wish i had the clip but i don't but he was made he was jumping in the argument that they're having about you know what marvel is doing to uh movies to comic books to hollywood and yeah movies and yeah cinematic yeah and what he was saying was was it uh oh what's my my name scorsese he's been against them for a minute yeah but he this gentleman was not against that oh okay this gentleman was not but what he did acknowledge was the culture of hollywood and this is happening in music and all across the board the culture is taking a hit and the actual creators and like the theatrical and the plays and that type of stuff uh is totally forgotten about now because all that matters is bottom line your balance sheet so if that's all we're looking at now then yeah you're gonna get the movie that brings in a gazillion dollars a gazillion dollars but what was the memorable line from it what did it do for the culture 20 30 years from now right so he was saying that i think that that's happening in music as well yeah it's all entertainment and i think that that somewhere is in the core of my inside versus outside argument when i say inside and things are being marketed and and you just are getting it from all over the place you're getting it from places that feed it to you from all over the place so yeah you're getting it and you getting it more than we could have ever got it so right i could only dr have dreamt to this day when i was i was the [ __ ] getting a hundred cds for 99 cents like saying columbia house i was out yeah all i was taping off the radio i was in i'm collecting tv guys i just don't know where this [ __ ] was about to go columbia houses house and bmg yeah so yeah you dreamt of a day where you answer your phone and could look at the dude on the other side like you dreamt of that back then so it's here now what is yeah and that was the jetsons if you look at the jetsons now that [ __ ] don't don't look so futuristic and that's when you come down you can see who i'm talking to that's justin i get i get from what is saying that cultural bonding [ __ ] that he talking about is just cultural [ __ ] around the board when it comes to experience so mass consumption doesn't really equate to that how do you get a best friend if you can't go outside they do listen listen to my questions on the internet and they actually do ingest my question how the [ __ ] do you get friends best friends and close friends if you can't go outside instagram that green circle that's your close friend you're not no but no so that's my thing like i'm naked no no i can't i can't really can't say they can't roll with that i've seen i've i've met i've made yeah yeah i've made real relationships from online yeah got you and we was there when that was taboo yeah you was a weirdo for that girl you could not tell nobody you met this [ __ ] online no i did but think about this though now you meet this dude online y'all hanging out y'all cool you really don't know this nigga's moral compass and then when you get your ass by three [ __ ] and he takes off running when you get when you grow up with somebody you know who the sucker that's gonna run you know some of these kids since i grew up with them but listen listen to what you're saying right you get into it if three of us got into it and you i take off running right at that moment you know ice ain't built for that if don't matter how we met with 25 oh just hear me out just hear me out we meet on the internet all three of us link up we cool we go to the spot we doing this set in the third and the same [ __ ] happens and the same person take off running you're still getting the experience you are correct it's just at a different because the times have changed you are correct there's more factors involved you all [ __ ] that link with three people from the internet nah this should be like a cap of internet people allowed to meet up the difference is not the times ice you 38 years old 31 you grew up in an era when that wasn't an option for you you grew up in an era where being outside is how you met friends [ __ ] you act like i lived in i went to school i had met friends in school that's what i'm saying you still weren't leaving you're crazy it's mad kids out there without friends right now i believe that yeah because they don't come outside i don't even think it's just that but what i'm saying is this so our conversation was about hip-hop and how ice receive hip-hop versus how we receive hip-hop and we have a million things to get to we do you know so so that's what i was saying like outside some [ __ ] you got it from being outside the feeling the the emotion and all that [ __ ] people saying you can you can experience emotion in your house yeah you could i just think it's different it is it's i'm a gr we're in agreeance there it is a difference you have my big brother you can feel the motion in that house there's a difference somebody said you was making dinner tonight it is a difference all i'm saying is the way you just because you experience it one way doesn't that i don't have don't invalidate your that's all i kept trying to tell you and you were saying the opposite yes it do because you didn't live this you didn't feel these lyrics no what he's saying to you is well yeah you have a great credit score but you also have no credit history or yeah like the [ __ ] the little chicago [ __ ] that feel dirk music right you don't think they feel it different than you absolutely that's my point but i said the same [ __ ] i'm we're we are in agreeance so now i'm gonna take back my stance i think ice would love to feel it yeah i don't want to feel that [ __ ] shoot out yeah so let me take back what i just that's why they like being in hell yeah yes i think i think [ __ ] in the house the [ __ ] that they feel is more relevant than your feelings and that's my opinion and the response to that is they are in the minority to the [ __ ] that's in the house today consuming hip hop and what's going to happen when the people that are outside talking that [ __ ] did you talk about yeah the outside [ __ ] like that the number's getting smaller that's why hip-hop is a joke because there are no more rappers everybody is what they are and the spectators are just in the house watching y'all yeah that's corny yo that's corny that's something part's trash there we go look at it [ __ ] pot you can do anything you put your mind to it you really helped let's get to it i'm still on hey yo it's off mike tell ya what you're doing i'll tell you it's up in a amp battle your aunt wasn't that hot the other day yo oh maybe because he was on the island you know a little vacay first shout out to the w-a-m-p gang you already know the [ __ ] vibe all right you know what we are you have me ish margarita or something what's going on with this guy nah you you just introduced the pod so it's boring so you ain't you ain't like my you ain't like how i was giving it up it was all right it wasn't that though yeah using your car listening like damn i could i could do better than that attacked you and said yo you need some help let me know remember i didn't see your texts on vacation i didn't see it i know that was no someone else that was sweet shorty had the phone that wasn't even i didn't think i'm reading your texts on vacation see but you wasn't in the vine when i was in there i wasn't outside he wasn't i wasn't outside with the face he was building house sweating talking to your staff my workers hey did you get the wrench whatever the [ __ ] y'all be saying in contractor world all right now now i'm gonna crack your muffin on monday monday yo hey each and every hold up man it's all up man hold up hold up hold up pissing me off bring my record each and every monday 5 p.m to 7 p.m some of you already know what i do some don't like this like this gentleman right here like this brother first of all what's the problem in the black community right here mic check one two one two fresh from vacate skim peeling and all what up though some people came through with the album [Music] shake happens to be one of them thank you very much talk about growth and progression from project to project shout out to oh seven o'shea [Music] nah it's really him y'all hold up that [ __ ] got you i'm here today yo huh i said that comment got you feeling away it's talking [ __ ] like that they're not yo can a dog can a dog bark at the moon i'm mooning on it's just little [ __ ] out of here all right we got [ __ ] to get to i also think we have a guest today hey sniper hall of fame any day you want to see me ish any day i don't hear from you unless it's pod day that let me know who i be i don't hear from you i don't see you you know where i live yeah i mean you could pull up at any time and get smoke was that little line i said before the uh part started uh oh i'm loyal when i piece it up i'm loyal to the piece up loyal to the piece up yo microphone check one two what is this [Applause] [Music] welcome to episode i don't remember 5 39 i think welcome to episode 539 of the joe budden podcast i'm joe budden hi to everybody out there how are you hope everybody had an amazing week uh hope everyone is kind well they're not healthy wealthy or stable at least hope everyone's mental health is great out there uh i hope uh [ __ ] that owe you all money pay it back i hope they pay it back this week you might get that call call of brighton not but you might get it you might you might get it uh what else what else uh i'll i hope shorty that you're still thinking about hope that she might send that text this weekend when it's nights out she won't you got a nice a you just don't she linking and drinking bro life is nothing without hope you guys that's true you could hope that these things happen yeah so i want to wish well wishes to everyone how many times someone owed you money and they called you it's a few times it's happening it's rare it's rare it's real though it's real a few times for me i know a few real [ __ ] i know a few i know a lot of y'all that ain't no right yeah hey let's talk about it and i'm here to talk about we're gonna dress some [ __ ] today uh how was everyone's week vacation huh time off time off staycation round of applause for the time staycation stayed right here children [ __ ] yeah it was hot ac on yeah chill there's some grilling though it's called the couch it's not vegan more than a vacation yeah the staycation is lit that piece just that count bro [ __ ] that wife was out of town so it was super quiet you won i won i won staycation yeah yeah he won okay what'd you do ish i was sick so i was in the house but i'm gonna take my feet being in some blue water overstaying my eyes at home any day of the week i got some uh outside that's why what kind of sick was you man i got the little test upstairs we gotta swap you down gucci though no everything good everything there's a little bad salmon or something you got any stds in my life i don't have those swaps a little cute by the day i'm glad i never had to get that one oh is it [ __ ] in there listen everybody didn't wake up and piss right the hospital yes and shout out to y'all i still want you all to listen to podcast too i don't come here discriminating against nooo mighty just to go with the clinic man one little pill knocked that thing right there hey listen hey i know i'd be she was fine she was fine enough to make you say no she's taking care of herself come on i'm just glad i never lived to the era where you had to get swabbed yeah you used to have to go down yeah what it was only a certain way yeah yeah that's the evolution yeah you did that before do what somebody put a q-tip in you yeah i mean no [ __ ] oh i don't know if you got an std if you never go to the duck look look i'm not going to [ __ ] up no one's when she when she finds out so go over there i ain't doing she's good six months you good go ahead all right there we go yo you straight right this is for comedic relief don't get tested the problem is they take me for real know your status [ __ ] clean chicks dog hood ministers no ice is so cute yo oh man one day we i'm gonna start my parts well some of that [ __ ] you had coming through total was a mess yeah everyone threw their dick in the dirt at some point man see that's where we gotta it's gotta draw a little line sorry no that's not true for everybody but prior to be like there was one in particular that you were sitting there yo yo yeah i'm gonna go up here and take her in this is this and then after nine [ __ ] i got nowhere nice and i'm not trying to put that one but y'all i don't know what you told me yo stop yo that's how you know my jersey is up there yo you gotta you guys said that to me you have to stop that you asked me to take the friend out so you could you know what's funny about that because when i say to him if we on patreon what the hell is happening right now you started it no you because you know what's funny about that when i say yo call that girl like the girl to tell you that that's [ __ ] [ __ ] always just hold it down [ __ ] always say that right there but there's been other instances where the girl said you popped me you said you did i don't know of them normally when they lie on you it's not to you it's to you who's trying to [ __ ] you know they lie to this yeah i don't even want to be a fly on your phone where are we at we're going to start with music what what's up i'm asking i don't know what else came out today oh yeah yeah yeah one of the biggest i mean we missed a lot of news with the day off all right we missed a lot of news there's plenty that we have to cover i mean if you don't want to start with music it's fine we don't have to i could put like the little effect on your voice and make you sound like a lamb too if you want you can try anything to keep them start with music huh let's start music come on go ahead man yeah that's funny dog the 12 carat toothache is out i know a lot of y'all don't even know that but yeah post malone's album dropped oh it was like it was a secret album no aaron ray album in store in your phone too right now no i can't suppress no podcasters thoughts clearly i don't have thoughts i'm just saying that no parks it wasn't a secret album uh it was announced uh supposedly a big single do y'all even know postie no no no no you know you wanna call them and ask them what happened but what happened what sometimes the label will be right damn it's gonna grow on you yeah um [Music] because he don't have that same uh venom he's not that same honest venom when it's backpacker time to be honest no no i can't do that because he killed he killed that black star album like he was supposed to quit quick we had to remind him no we ice did remind no we made him say it on air but immediate oh that's what you get in that and now this is just top of the list because posty yeah i mean but post malone is news [ __ ] yeah this is that poster all right fine man fine fine you camping for your god i'm asking it's okay if you are there's nothing wrong with that i can't for mine it's a joint on here how many songs on there alex roll down the problem is it's 14. no it might be a two joint it might be two joints it's one and a half at least yeah it's at least one in a poppy now get the board if you got a good partner you might make board if you got one in the pocket i was about to say you won an impossible y'all shot one no no you're one of the pop with my two and a pop we might can make board yeah that's bored but where's the 200 pop coming from there's 13 books he got 14 songs the [ __ ] is going on here bro y'all don't allow artist grace ever either yo that's another thing about y'all today but i don't be liking yo like why somebody got a hit every time at bat aaron judge leading the league in like [ __ ] game-winning grand slams a home run something stupid yeah they're bugging the yankees oh man and they let joe girardi go from the uh phillies anyway um what am i saying so you said you don't have to hit it out the park yeah like but he's gonna go up there and strike sometimes man and they ain't no promotion he had no label support they might have shrunk his budgets you're busy doing some other [ __ ] this [ __ ] ain't good stop bro stop you gotta stop let's just let's just look you guys just look at the features he's still him though you got roddy you got doji cat the weeknd stopper i know no no let's just stick with those three four seconds nothing against gunner you have roddy rich dozier cat and the weeknd which are arguably this is a festival headliner yo you making me mad yo like i gotta be honest that's not supposed to [ __ ] up a dozer slap today you're not supposed to [ __ ] that up i like your weekend record yeah younger make me cave in a way i don't want to keep just the great potter in me is just going to jump out yeah well you going to do that anyway ice if you have a dozer feature right this second how does it go ice is not post melanger so then i won't allow him to say yo you ain't thought that the [ __ ] out of here he's saying folks malone is not yes that's what i'm saying and i'm saying that doji cat like post malone once was is a label darling a plus plus correct position at the label so yeah i'm sure that when things were merrier there were plans for that that tells you that but guess what a phone call got made somebody said something they shouldn't have said somebody asked for too much somebody said i'm out [ __ ] it went bad and now you're single with your hit is going to sit in the [ __ ] dust he ain't the first one let's take it off of that i told you the single was the record feature in the weekend no but big start there but we were saying this about the weekend before post was even coming i'm just saying that you could see that there's something at play here they're stepping on [ __ ] releases absolutely hey yo y'all bugging we because the release ain't all that no either look either hold up that's why i hate this side of the room if you're all of the labels let's talk for real let's do it and i'm your artist and for four albums i have hit that [ __ ] 600 feet out and now when it may submit but you all heard it first mm-hmm y'all are here in the frame y'all don't believe in it yeah y'all don't believe it no it's not good okay you're all right yeah got you what are y'all doing in that position y'all go back to the lab and cook another one and you can't and you and and you can't come out until you until we think you have one yeah same for you no let me ask you a question no and you didn't answer my yet no is it the same as what part said so let me ask you this now let me know i know but it's wild when they do and the artists speak up every time that's what the [ __ ] you said why do you think that's why me just because mick just said the problem is the artists are now knowing this ain't like back in the day some of these artists know what they are making for you some of them do you can't do that so meek says y'all gave you four albums i made you [ __ ] x amount of how many hundreds or whatever i brought you all righty this is what he said remember that yeah yeah yeah and the labels there's you know what yeah that's what that is welcome to the label contingent upon where you are not in that in that food chain if me and ice came up here and we potted our asses off for six months and then me and ice felt like yo we did a good job six months of pardon but now we're gonna give you some [ __ ] for a month two three months that's not okay with you you can't say yo y'all had a run for a year and i was cool but now y'all could give me mid when y'all feel like giving me mid and look back and say yo but we bust our ass for a year you can't say that can i respond to that directly absolutely how many mid episodes do you think i think you and ice have delivered in a year a bunch but you would be guessing right yeah but you would be guessing because you don't know right sure and you don't know because i've never said it okay now what i can say is this hold up let me finish that's it and i say and there's mad reasons why that what's different with you and the label because with the label they have zero to do with his well let me take that back because i don't know that to be true absolutely and me on a better example would be me saying yo whatever y'all want to talk about in the pod send it to me first let me see it and then saying no yeah true all right and would i ever do that no but no no because you think that we could create whatever out of any topic cool what i'm saying now is with him well and y'all your own men so i ain't gonna say hey yo even though you feel like that don't say that here but with him it's a product that you're trying to sell as is he true he didn't go in there trying to make something that wouldn't sell he tried and i appreciate that and this is where my and there are artists that go in and do the fluff [ __ ] i'm not trying the fan's gonna get some [ __ ] and sell it how you want and that's the end of my contract he did go in and try so it wasn't good you're right so you can't say that he might have did that his slap with dojo yo i told you all based on the label because even if the label didn't market your product accordingly even if they didn't put the budget behind your [ __ ] like they should have you are an artist and you have a level features on your [ __ ] y'all could get in there and creatively get busy regardless of your marketing budget and it and when the world hears that they like oh [ __ ] that is false there is certainly stuff that's that's why i was like i'm capable because people have to know that that is false and you're getting more and more artists to come out and tell you and managers and behind the scenes execs to come out and tell you just how much it costs to get a record going and to continue a record to go so yeah you did that on the creative side issue right he he got with dozier you you're a top act i'm a top act we put it together guess what if that label don't think that this is it mm-hmm you're not spending to put that nowhere and that nigga's gonna sit on the couch gonna say yo how you get with dozier and fail man easy to get with doji and phil is the people at the top don't believe in they ain't [ __ ] with it wouldn't give me a release date i went and had to stomp my feet and clearly before this post malone talk i was on this point you said it artists are going through something with with labels it's true talking about it it's getting bad this is like ironing me even being the guy to deliver that message but the crazy part to me is yo you're talking about business versus creativity so we have to right now listen i heard your point i'm saying this if the label didn't put no money behind your [ __ ] zero then you fail i'm not see now you're talking about business i'm talking about creativity even if the label didn't put no money behind your [ __ ] and me and you put out a dope ass project once [ __ ] start to hear the project stop right they like oh [ __ ] there's some [ __ ] on there y'all never heard some [ __ ] i was like damn it's some [ __ ] on there they write down what hold on they write down the sales that they think the label can't tell me what i'm gonna like once i finally hear it but now it might not get to my plate that's what i was getting ready to say but the label don't make y'all who are avid music listeners listen to this [ __ ] album and say it as me but the label can't do that ish hear me out real quick today a lot of people live based off a playlist and algorithms and all that [ __ ] yes that is directly funded by labels indeed for sure there's a lot of people that hold on let's just get points just give me a second give me a second there's a lot of people that will sit there and say oh ain't nobody talking about this like people are waiting to be told what to like today that is true but i do think in this conversation with the people in this world yes we have [ __ ] ears so we can listen to that record and say exactly this should have been delivered that is my fault like they can't talk about something that i didn't talk about i'm talking about yo if you are a creative and you are an artist by the time the label could suppress your [ __ ] but by the time it's heard if it's good music and a good product and a good project then i think that people that hear it that are quote unquote critical now i will keep for uh postie and say that i do think that there's a high possibility that he was unhappy with the label and turned into the b-side the b-sides when i say the [ __ ] you album i don't mean it's like [ __ ] you to the label it's just yo if we ain't had a i'm not gonna put my best work out if [ __ ] you ain't on the same page yeah i do think that post and uh louis valles producer too talented to have thought that this is like not for nothing i started to think another big release that just happened was was may have been a [ __ ] you album just not without kendrick the more i listen to that album it it kind of feels like he just was awesome this is what i'm doing i know we're done here i'm gonna put this out y'all do what you want to do it i'm leaving i'm not supporting i'm not doing interviews i'm not doing nothing and i think all of that plays into the low number like how the label could step on it and lower your number i think kendrick stepped on and lowered the number this is my way out i'm done i don't care what happens with this i'm gonna give y'all a part off more often y'all got theories today i don't disagree with sister on that no he's trying to cook i don't disagree with his theory on that like when i look the more i look at this album we talked about that briefly on patreon why the numbers below it's the [ __ ] you album yeah i mean i won't argue with parks's original point and i don't want to drag on argument for the sake of doing it if your music is trash i agree with the label not putting it not putting it out i agree with that i also don't i also think that when you have done a considerable amount and outperformed your contract that a certain grace should be extended i agree with that as well i don't i don't think that the two could be moving do you know what the problem in music is yo and i hate to conflate issues but [ __ ] it the problem is there really are only about if we being serious six artists that call their own shot well on a label see ya definitely yeah that's what i'm talking about and i'll say this like um you know that that's how wild would you think about how many artists are on labels the only thing about the uh the argument that jesus made about um the label giving them grace is i could see if he made a super he wanted to make a [ __ ] acoustic guitar album and the label was like nah we're not doing that in those situations i say grant the great disagreement with the post last album while parts go my bad but he made the album in the same vein as his other albums it's just not as good like i could see if he wanted to do something different the label's like hey now you're in this lane you can't go over here it's in the same vein it certainly is a different limb no doubt 480 point joke 489 this first is blue blood no no no life of the project for for hollywood's bleeding by post malone multi-platinum i'm sure but i just want to see i just want to see i got you just go to his discography listen man it's not good no it's not good no or it's not his best it sounds like a [ __ ] you album like i said i think that he that him and his partner are too talented to make this album thinking that it's as good as his last albums i do well that's why i have a a new i have a i have a i had a problem with a lot of [ __ ] let me address you today like i got a problem when these [ __ ] come tell me about all the label issues and then we never hear nothing again i don't like that keep it to your [ __ ] self if you're not gonna offer the solution just come bitten what you mean we always worry about what both sides okay even though it's more from the arts but it's more from the arts no the label got their own tricks they just mask it like label [ __ ] but more we more so here for the artist directly they're not in a position to really fix it oh it always gets fixed but it might not it might not be to their best interest but it gets resolved let me not say fix resolution is different it gets resolved then offer the revenue settlement or settlement yeah usually just be a settlement then offer that offer whatever that is because if you don't do that then now we just left to assume [ __ ] like this polson is in his manager said something was going on they won't let us put this out when they said that we've been albums then they came back and said we got a date we gucci but if we gucci don't mean we gucci they don't [ __ ] lie to me as a [ __ ] consumer tell me what it is this is business they got to them they gotta act like man no i'm with being a savvy consumer i'm with that there was a time where when 50 was going up there reading the sound scans it's like all the fans they both know sounds good oh no let someone get smart now let some of them get smart i like that yeah fans are becoming more informed you can't just put everything in the phone knock down studios mega stores and everything else and then say hey fans be as stupid as you were 15 or 20 years ago no no i ain't buying this [ __ ] that's why netflix going through what they're going through oh wait you're doing that wait word no more big budget wait what oh you raised the price oh you adding ads wait what oh no inflation the [ __ ] up everywhere is tough to live and we just about to be about to do that with entertainment no sucks [ __ ] i didn't subscribe too that's what i did with my vacations i'm unsubscribed to all the [ __ ] i'm subscribed to you finally left them huh you left them not yet not them okay not them but they're next they're next they're next on the list i think i think [ __ ] just be playing nice yeah cause you gotta think about your next deal you know what i'm saying like you can't just burn the bridge because you gotta have some level of professionalism on to the next project man these [ __ ] still looking at it like yo no matter how bad this [ __ ] situation is i still need this label i need to keep i need the label i need to keep my i'm signed here composure like that there's not many artists that will jump out there like you will yeah hollywood these [ __ ] are going to play their position like all right i learned i'll shut the [ __ ] up hollywood bleeding three times platinum domestically i'm pretty sure probably usually yeah all right yeah that's domestic yeah yeah no tot worldwide totally it should say the other ones right there all the other api or whatever the [ __ ] all right that's australia yeah because there's not as many people in australia and uh europe and [Music] the game would change even if more artists had just sold control of their international rights they keep triggering you what you sold over here now well that's sold over there these [ __ ] are tricky uh it's all right it's not like you need shipping no more jeez guys you know what i'm saying like back in the day would be like yeah you sold double platinum in england but we had to ship all this [ __ ] over there all right that's how they got them that's how they got them enough time on something that in all of our opinions underperformed i do think that postie will be back i think so too yeah i do um shake shake deliver now shake oh seven o shake you can't kill me wow that [ __ ] is high it's really good it is it's really good you guys aren't familiar at all oh okay she was on a bunch of uh kanye stuff that's kind of how i know the name first i'm not familiar with any music i don't get everything in that house huh [Music] her second album right yes officially at least i don't know if she had like mixtapes or whatever before but yeah so i don't have no deep dive because i didn't listen to every single second of it yet but y'all are both in agree and said this is like mike dean is him also like dean is him got you boys shut up is this mike dean he's always doing shake [ __ ] yeah mike dean synth guitars mixing the mic dean package the good one oh my god he's him wow i put this i put this [ __ ] on in the shower and i'm like wow what a dramatic what a dramatic step from album one to album two to really step into like your vibe and sound and my favorite songs from your first project and you killing all of this there's a sound she has a sound and it's labeled alternative and she has other producers too so i don't want to uh discredit them i don't know their names off the top of my head well i i credit it to the artist so i'm crazy she produced a couple of these i'm crediting her but the ability for mike dean to say yeah let's go in man times mm-hmm that says something and they smoke this oh that just makes all the sense in the world now yeah you did the last one too i think you know i didn't love the last one like i love this one really you like this better than the first one yeah yes oh wow yes yes but that's what i mean she leaned a little more into my favorite spots on the first one gotcha the first one for me felt like she hit hit hit a bunch out the park but she was still trying to figure it out don't you love this sounds figured out don't you love that like the [ __ ] that i liked from the last album i'm getting more of that on you yeah that's all chris brown about this that's all chris brown about to go do by the don't you think that's creative control that the label starts to give a little bit to the artist it's new orders yeah i'm about to say brand new it should just believe banking new it could just be i don't know if she's his artist i don't i don't know i don't know their situation i believe her to be from new jersey she is from jersey i believe and yeah oh she's undead i was gonna say i don't know if she's signed to any major but she's on deaf jam so yeah but go listen to shake yeah no she's fired no shake shake shake came through uh aaron ray came through aaron ray [ __ ] i only heard like i only heard half as well but it was enough for me but aaron ray is another one of those guys if you're r b head he very rarely misses he knows how to compose a song it's like a good r b song come on man look at this [ __ ] and i got to give credit to d smoke i remember a few years ago [ __ ] on here kind of smoke d smoke a little bit he just showing up no but it was it wasn't um he's been showing up i've smoked these smokers don't know who was i the issue i guess was that he was grammy nominated for album that a lot of people didn't really hear it was a solid album but there was albums that were probably better and more it was killing him long before they did they killed him that entire netflix rap show oh he killed that but he got killed did he he got he got killed purely on the fact of being sir's brother and a twin your brother popped first and now as a twin and here you come trying to rap and now you want some rapidly rap show [ __ ] move let's tell today and he was on some black power [ __ ] he was on some positive [ __ ] [ __ ] move where's your singing brother at nine no these smokers dope but he's been aside from him being dope he's just been organically or it seems like organically finding his way to dope [ __ ] so shout out to d smoke man yeah he's killing too and uh yeah the enrich is hard man hey you know you know who else delivered uh glory yes he did bori really yeah you know he dropped yeah delivered actually another one for me dramatic step from last project to this really is it just me i like the last yeah me too yeah but it was but everybody it was a little bear yeah this was better this was better it was a little skeletony referencing it was it was airy it was not this this this one it's right here it's a little different right here oh man who broke his heart somebody must have made a man somebody did something he would know he's yeah yeah you can sense that you can hear the toxicity in here yeah yeah listen to the [ __ ] man champion get them [ __ ] you want that [ __ ] you want when it comes to music and this is [ __ ] up on us as the fans but we want to we don't want your happy music yeah i hate that they ruined toxicity you know like what's wrong honestly a male toxicity as long as you went to cluck you and didn't order the 911 wings you might have survived you a little as long as you're not like 9-1-1 yeah i know y'all got lucky in new york no you never had the nuclear wings wait like you never had clock for you no i never heard lucky they had cluck you in new york they might not he wasn't outside still is around a bunch of universities uh okay and they make wings from mao all the way to thomas make you fake your eyes that's where your eyes burn out you don't love your family wings you need somewhere where you could go and get a little toxic video for a lot of people somehow that's here i think this is me showing up being reformed they think we're in here just being toxic i i don't think so not at all and if we just a little bit you know i mean a little sprinkle on top a little salt baby toxicity what's your toxic limit today what you mean what do i want to give as far as toxicity or what am i willing to accept what's no give give like level 10 like i'll speak for me as a reformed toxic person no i won't like when i was in my 20s and the argument popped off in the car and she said would say pull over and let me the [ __ ] out i'd pull over and let her the [ __ ] out and leave wait and leave dawg that was wrong yes man i'm sorry [Laughter] and you could believe but anyway yeah so today i would never do that that sounds like that's laughable that's laughable today i think my mom would never do that today of course you grow up you involved so i'm saying today what is your level of oh no it's loading my eyes very low i'm gonna go sleep on the couch or go out to the bar and eat by myself i don't think that's the lowest my [ __ ] my that's that's pretty low that's pretty high that's pretty high on the sassa meter yeah on the petty meter that's mid on it just going bam i'm going to sleep on the couch you're not saying good night you're not kidding you're going you sass ain't sexy i'm sorry i'm mad [ __ ] yeah come on that's a five that is a five yo go sleep in the [ __ ] bed you purchased like a man excuse me the mic is right there that's a two you think that that's a two all right give me give me four i don't want to argue i don't want to kick it i like we at odds i don't feel like fam you want to go to sleep in your bed i don't want to and that's why it's a five no i don't do that but i just don't think that that's high up there but it's it's the middle it's the middle i think that's the middle fam depending on how it's don't make me have a real conversation and i don't like you because you've been there too i'll paint a picture for you stop it yo unless you're talking about today disgusting your pictures nigga's gonna be way more artistic than mine i never got a brush [ __ ] [ __ ] you talking about this is what i'm saying both have abstracts but this is what i'm saying to you yeah don't don't get amnesia [ __ ] yeah we can both be bob ross what i'm saying to you is this is why it's a five because this could go up and be bad from this point or you could go down and be cool from this point getting up and going out is the middle that's not leaving is happening he said i'm going to the bar and all that is worse than going to sleep on the couch you had a seven i think you had to put leads you're not standing on nothing no i think that one leaving is what leaving it you stormed out stormed out stop it storm down is leaving if you leave quietly it's stormed out that's up there to me it's high i say high as [ __ ] so then what are y'all talking about you down with me i just called that a seven yeah but i don't think going to sleep on the couch because i don't want to argue as a 5. yeah i think that's happening i think that's having mad restraint unless you're unless you're attending [ __ ] that we like as men would not do you know i mean there are many ways it would do that it is it is having restraint and mad mature like but but you know that your girl wants you to sleep there man so she could throw her leg on you or scoot her ass back or say hey do you at least understand why i was coming from uh earlier or sleep on the whole other side of the bed yeah just like you know she want to do that so as a man you make the conscious decision now [ __ ] you i'm going to the couch i'm protecting my how do you not see that at that's turning it up because now what's gonna happen is this you think you just went to the couch you think you just went to the couch and cut your favorite show on and just had a blast that was the end tell me how the rest of the story went if we all gonna sit here and kick it tell me how to i'm going to sleep hello someone call you oh i heard a girl just pop up right now it's siri yeah i'm about to say you got your [ __ ] iphone or some [ __ ] so houston number two one of them realtors that i got from where the gram you would think you're buying a bunch of houses in houston how you ain't bought nothing in houston right just following them all right just in case i feel just a good pointer she's gonna kiss her yo if you've ever went to the couch to sleep back to my point and i'll close this up we got you to get to if you've ever went to the couch to sleep while your girl is in the other room i would love for you to tell me how the rest of that night went i think it's a small percentage of y'all that got a good sleep she bought [ __ ] mom because she ain't doing that but stay up hey shane do nothing but stay up in the other room telling her homegirl mad loud so you can hear everything so [ __ ] this [ __ ] start slamming drawers slamming the bathroom door stomping she got the bro mouth [ __ ] banging banging on [ __ ] doing [ __ ] she never did before now she mopping at three in the morning it's like yo what are you doing dog or that's when you gotta she followed you to the living room i think a lot of you men have that story but you don't get vulnerable you tried to have restraint then too and then she stabbed you i'm joking of course i'm about to say what we just turned up on you yeah yo dawg my mouth goes crazy can't get crazy so in my older age i don't do that no more just so i walk away but wait this one they're really good no it's y'all i'm stuck with him i'm moving i'm cause i'm not even the guy jesus is with me i'm with him i'm not the arguer you no i am i'm not so i'm not arguing to be today you don't get to walk away who don't get the what you you do not get who i followed you and i followed you i followed both of you fam babe we can't go to bed we can't go to bed like this i want to talk no let's stop no listen i had a heart really hug her one time and when the argument got to its peak she would say hug me let's just stop everything and hug maybe i'm toxic wait what she was white no get the [ __ ] away from me fam um we here now once it gets to argument status we here cool stay over there i'm gonna stay over here maybe we can revisit this tomorrow and get something your toxic levels are still high yeah that's me that's me straight up because you know y'all talking about levels listening to y'all i do think it makes me a little bit more toxic toxic levels personally i'm not with the argument [ __ ] especially when we're upset i will not do that [ __ ] at all i'm like look yo we both up hugging y'all said [ __ ] that is up you said at the peak of the argument she'll say hug me yeah she's trying to squeeze yeah she's trying to at least bring some love and peace back into the argument she loves you listen man go y'all talk to yourself go to sleep talk tomorrow just leave me alone right now you're telling women to go to sleep i'm asking you i'm i'm telling you tell her when it's time to answer yo it's time for bed now no now i'm just saying that in that moment pick up the argument when you start trying to we had odds i don't don't go in the other way i'm going over here and if you want to continue to follow me then i'll tell them tell her where you better go though i'm not talking about i'm going over here you better that's why i asked y'all i don't think men know their toxic level joe you know i used to don't answer the question my toxic level yo my time i've been willing to take a hug the girl that wanted you to say i love you to each other at the end of the argument you know no that's the same [ __ ] with the hug no yeah i'm not there like this yeah but when you end that moment and you feel yourself you have to say the no you realize how stupid you're saying saying and it's tough it's tough my toxicity [ __ ] was literally just you know when you send a paragraph i'm gonna go find the one line to respond to and ignore everything else that was it and that ain't i can't believe that y'all have never been with the girl to follow you in the next room are you sure i'm out of here i'm leaving i'm telling you first off today if that were to happen to me i'm telling you what would happen next i'm calling the police i'm calling the police today buddy they're gonna kick you right out your own house i gotta know i'll find somewhere to go oh man dude listen do we have to get to this yeah we have to get to it come on young thug denied bond for being a threat to uh threat to the public and risk of witness tampering and you know before we get started with this and y'all could figure out your take y'all take as i say this uh before we get started with this watching the prosecutor read lyrics in court to the judge and talk about uh just how dangerous people are from the lyrics and like actually having to say the lyrics out loud reminding me of another reason that i'm totally against lyrics in court especially from the prosecutor who just happens to be a white guy i knew it was going to i feel you it's rhythm yo his pocket was all off he wasn't reading the lyrics on the one what the [ __ ] is wrong with him the sauce dude that lyric did not go like that yo that [ __ ] brother haven't had no idea it was bad it was offbeat off the one no kaden style charisma all the lyrics gonna sound bad if you do that that's i think that nasty point that's what they're trying to do doing it on purpose yeah they're doing that on purpose they're reading besides exactly certain [ __ ] yeah they're doing that [ __ ] on purpose shout out to kevin lau show for uh tell the people no okay i'm about to kevin lowe's is a multi-millionaire successful times 10 yeah to sit up there and see him get as emotional as he got was that was something for me like yo dawg but the bad part with that was he had to qualify himself almost to these [ __ ] that are peons to me in a in a societal view i had to sit up there and say yeah i'm this i'm that i'm this i'm that i'm this and i'm that and that's why my opinion matters you get what i'm saying like that [ __ ] was almost back to my still [ __ ] point i don't want to go no no i was about no i was about to say that i was about to say yo it's crazy that let's say the prosecutor makes 200 grand 250 [ __ ] i'm sitting up here i've i've taken companies from nothing to something you get i'm saying like worldwide i'm recognized as one of them and i gotta sit up here and qualify qualify myself to you and this [ __ ] judge you know what i'm saying like almost and then it got insulting mike back a little bit uh let's just say hypothetically uh we allow him bond uh the money can get up there you might end up spending a little over a million dollars in home security and uh and this and that you know are are you prepared to do that does does he have the means to do that that's disgusting work kevin owens was like [ __ ] yeah me and him both dude yeah yeah we got it what's up that's it no no no no no he do and i don't i will personally and professionally guarantee and back him in i both do professionally and personally we'll back him up yo man not enough can be said about kevin lowes and i didn't know what i was going to come in here and say about this because this [ __ ] is getting like really intricate so i'm trying to mind my business but the kevin lowe's uh clips they [ __ ] me up went everywhere so on one hand you have the people that say well what is he supposed to say i don't accept that i mean well kevin love they said what was he supposed to say you have a small number of people who don't understand that say what the [ __ ] was he supposed to say we just watched bobby and rowdy sit there and and the label act like they didn't exist a little different here but i'm just saying you said what is he supposed to say bobby and rowdy was new er he has a long he's a decade long relationship young thug is young thug i know he's him he's he's however many years in of being a high earner for kav but i don't want to harp on any of that because none of it matters it don't matter i know kev personally i know kev personally when i was a little more off than the internet says that i am and he's not one of them there is nothing to say bad about him as it pertains to his his relationships with artists his role in artist development and how he shows up for every artist when there's tough times need i remind y'all that this is the man that housed murder inc rockefeller [ __ ] uh all of it yo rough riders this is the man that was head of the helm when uh the feds had to come running in there and audit everything this is the man that was an active musician probably or one of uh and uh or uh in demand writer or some type of creative but back when two live crew went to court for this very same thing which he highlighted here he said this is not the first time that hip-hop has been on trial and it's a shame that i'm called here to testify all of these years later with hip-hop being on trial uh he's only done this for my entire career which is 20 years i got signed in 0-1 and all you know bad about kev is probably from the damn dash clips that went around damn yelling at him yeah but but even in that how he handled himself in that what he birthed what he's done from def jam to his music career to he has changed the game he was there for the def jam dream team he's him really artists will tell you this this is not just a joe thing so i don't think many of us were shocked to see him front and center saying what needed to be said for his people i don't think many of us were shocked kev [ __ ] like me appreciate you we love you and we need more of that representation no matter how you might feel about the young thug case yeah true i'm not necessarily talking about that right that's true i'm talking about people like kev steve dame hole just there's a bunch of them it's too many to name irv 50. there are a bunch of my a brilliant minds that have gone from impoverished hood [ __ ] to moguldom yes yeah and that needed he needed if he needed to be there he i was glad that it was him i was that's how i felt i can't tell you i can't tell you uh how i would feel if i weren't that close to him but i might come in here and say it's a front in the facade i might but i i just that's not who he's been i don't know him that's not who he's been i know that's your guy i don't know him i don't see that i saw genuineness i saw a real raw emotion and then again i i looked at it in a couple different ways you know what i'm saying like um you got to be cognizant and and mindful of the things that they're accused of right so you you can't never discount those people on the other side of that sure but to see this powerful as black man yo they kind of belittled him a little bit to him like i was kind of mad watching him in there you get him saying like they would never ask [ __ ] martin scorsese these questions that [ __ ] kind of hot had me hot yo you know what i'm saying what he said would need i come from like what would you like to discuss what's up like let's let's get who i am forget about that i'm here to stamp that he's not he's not gonna run now apparently that whole bond [ __ ] gets way deeper than my brain and i won't even talk about it but i read enough about it me too about appending apparently the lawyers involved in this case from what i read are all them on both sides gunner's lawyer thuggers lawyer uh and and the lawyer representing uh the city home uh no homeboy oh all lawyers involved because there are cases that enter in there or 28 people oh there's like a case here yeah that one lawyer is representing and then because it's a rico is pulled into this case here and then this guy the prosecution is the prosecutor is trying to get home boy that's nice because they know you get out the building they're trying to get him no he can't he can't represent him yeah yeah yeah they're trying to get him off really fast because he's representing someone else who they're talking about oh yeah we gotta get this ball ahead [ __ ] yeah yeah nice yeah you too lawyer we can't beat him so we gotta rig the game that's that's exactly what they're trying to do they did that with oh boy cory yeah you gotta get out of here this [ __ ] got his crack record too crazy but nah to watch kev do that that [ __ ] was admirable yeah to see him do it you know you hear instances where somebody wrote a letter to the judge you know they'll write something to see him actually go up there and he talked about him as a person yeah he broke them down in the huma humane because they look at us like animals and then when you read the lyrics yeah but then when you read the lyrics too it kind of lends to see how somebody especially some white judge that's 60 years old blackjack i'm just giving an example like making it broader like yo how some 60 year old individual could say somebody wrote that or somebody said that because they don't necessarily identify with the culture right so it's easy to to dehumanize them you know what i'm saying he's talked about him by name he talked about what his initiatives were when i first signed them he said y'all want to help everybody you know what i'm saying like yo so you don't know what behind those doors conversations he's really had with this kid you know what i'm saying like then he said yo matter of fact he not signing me we got a partnership he's my business partner so we're not even gonna make him look like one of my subordinates which he could have easily made him you know what i'm saying like nah nah nah let's bake him up like hi yeah yeah yeah two deals with uh yeah thug it's like oh oh he about to start talking to him wait let me tell you who he is i signed that whole crew that y'all doing this with and i signed him and i i i employ over 5000 people you know he said that too just let you know no no no they have streets named after me like yo talk some talk talk to me yeah yeah put some respect yeah this is what i like too and um yeah i'm highlighting kev man yeah this is what i like too in an attempt to try to [ __ ] identify with the judge kevin's like hey i'm having a how do i'm not sure how old you are judge but i'm all right the judge was linked uh i'm a little older or whatever caps say he's 49 i have a old campus and um just like i'm older than that all right i'll just take a little take in the back okay well that cap was like okay cool well then i'm gonna teach you this and he didn't say that but whatever he went into next are you older than me but maybe you still don't know so this is culture and he went into some culture but it's just great representation yo just great representation and we need that we need to see it more often you know you got to see it more often yeah but there's a reason why we don't and maybe that's a conversation for another time it may be a patreon because yeah you might ought to enlighten me dang thank thanks why they gonna keep showing you this yo you somebody gonna keep showing you a pee why didn't i keep showing you that i think this [ __ ] p went out there and i'm using p just because it's current now but there were those before him that did the same true the [ __ ] p went out there with his brain and his moxie and [ __ ] now look at all of atlanta it's not by coincidence it's not by coincidence that master p put out seven different artists every week for three years it's not a coincidence that [ __ ] baby had these [ __ ] at nine years old like it's not a coincidence right like it only take one powerful brain to bring it back to show people a different way why why the [ __ ] would they keep if there was a time when kevin lowes wouldn't sit in front of a camera but that's exact law at some point no the game that ain't i'm behind the scenes now these [ __ ] can't get from in front of a camera and i love it because these are the people that we need hey we [ __ ] just be sitting back talking hip hop this man has probably forgot more about hip-hop than a lot of people know indeed those are the people you need to hear from that's true i i just what i just said yeah like yeah that's true yeah come on 1 000 man kev we appreciate you i'm sure your entire squad does as well but you already know the vibes man you know and he'll continue to show up this way like this is not a pit stop and that's real anger i do believe kav could have gained another tier or two but but that's definitely real emotion up there uh real emotion real uh real anger praise to everybody involved in this uh the trial is set for january 2023 and we'll we'll see what happens but uh that prosecutor did get a little say that's how i knew he was getting his ass kicked in there he threw out yeah we got proffers from a few people i was like oh named and unnamed that's what he said not just prophets from those listed and some who are not i was like oh he getting spicy he is trying it oh man well i'll i'll be watching i'll be one yeah what else what else what else can you do but watch and on to unimportant news yeah yeah yeah let's break it up a little bit you made headlines this week i'm a headline yo that's true yeah stop enough of it enough of it i know i'm not here you know what a vacation will do it's my brain yo sorry stuck with it and so are we and there's some yeah i'm kind of tired of you trying to be honest with you because my [ __ ] phone don't stop and that's it gets annoying like [ __ ] i'm not joe stop calling me stop talking to me yo kyrie went on his socials when he was and i i do like the ongoing beef between uh modern nba players and fans and critiques uh critics of the game i agree i do i like it i'm sorry unfortunately i don't know where i stand on the matter because i get both sides but that brings me to me just me i'm just i'm not just it's just me yo it's just me i've taken enough meetings i've had enough conversations i know what the impressions do yo i know what happens when my name is attached to something for me these be regular passing fleeting thoughts this be two seconds out of a day i woke up seeing some [ __ ] was like oh [ __ ] [ __ ] crazy yo that's not crazy y'all and it just went and it just went on about my butt and i don't want to sound like i'm complaining about this because i don't know if i should or i shouldn't i don't know if i should block every one of you blog sites that just kind of shape things to your narrative it wouldn't work and don't ever put out any of the positive black dad entrepreneur [ __ ] don't and none of that we just skip all that i don't know it might work no because the employees will still follow you you would be yeah you can't block them it'd be impossible [ __ ] i'm close friends everybody but blogs yeah but like parks is saying though there'll be an intern or something working or somebody that just wants to get a spot oh no now there's somebody at the blog that owns the blog but listen but listen i don't want to harp on that because there are plenty of people that would love to just say something and land on a blog like that is what this monetization culture or for some of y'all demonetization that's what that culture lives on that's true it just don't really help me because i don't go about my business model that way right like i'm not looking to say as many names as i could possibly say rall up opinions get the response and when i say something i just say it so made a couple of headlines y'all called me the [ __ ] strip club activists y'all called me martin luther king for the strippers and dancers y'all called me dr umar for starlets y'all called me every name in the book y'all called me a colorist i saw that a lot wouldn't that be they called me your thing kind of the opposite but anyway no stop stop and that's weird it wasn't it really wasn't because all i saw was right message wrong messenger you can't say that joe cause that's all you date and i i can't i'm not gonna defend you i'll just be looking at it but i'm like that's not all he's dated but people will just create narratives just because they can't internet culture cnn it ain't even that it ain't even that yo when you allow one to ten a hundred or a thousand people to say something and you attempt to take high road or it's just not important to you then that can linger and unfortunately that happens a lot today so what y'all gonna say i date nothing but spanish chicks i'm not gonna come out and tell you that you're wrong because why is that your business like a lot of times in these situations you're protecting the anonymity the person that you're intimate with a lot of times some people don't want all of their business plastered all over the internet so the internet that's this thing where they just feel like they know everything about your [ __ ] and because you don't when you don't address it then they feel like they're right they're like oh you didn't even nobody corrected me no that's what i'm like i saw a fan on i saw them saying um yo joe can't say that all he dates to spanish chicks right then i saw a comment saying well he's dating a black woman right now so now there's a fact that refutes what you said rather than admit you wrong you know what they said after that oh that's just for the look he's pandering he's right yeah that is what i read i read oh he dates one black woman and now he want to see more black representation in the strip club i also heard well why the [ __ ] do he want us there that was crazy we are better than that i saw a lot of that chasing degrees we ain't in those strip club leave that for them yo i might y'all like y'all almost pushed me to shutting the [ __ ] up i couldn't believe that one i ain't gonna hold you yo i almost was pushed shut the [ __ ] up nah never never that never that listen a few things joe has dated a bunch of black women beautiful beautiful i wish y'all knew i want to tell y'all they know something that's what gets me no they try to act like you ain't doing that no they do know something so they just be trying to i know i know i know because i do the counting y'all talk about me so much that i start counting so when y'all say all he do is [ __ ] spanish chicks i start counting the ones that y'all know about it's about 100 y'all don't know about or two that's me yo and that's what i mean yo some of y'all don't know me some of y'all don't know me this is me me if there were no other topic in life that i was qualified to speak in guess what buddy it's definitely it's definitely this it's this one that's facts the [ __ ] some of y'all are new here some of y'all just start coming around there's a lot of y'all might not know there's a lot of uh four you're 40 years old what are you even worried about strip clubs for i saw that one a lot those is the people that don't know about that i mean but yo for the people that do know again i'm home like calculating [ __ ] i almost want to say if you don't work in new york strip clubs none of y'all are there more than me not one of y'all i say it got a point there i'm here three to four times a week chilling it wasn't a couple couples trippers and dancers and bartenders piped up a bunch a lot was silent guess why yeah a few of the little skinny girls that don't meet joe's weight require requirement jumped in and say hey well you only tip the spanish girl that last week two weeks ago you was only in the corner hugged up well yeah she weighs 205 pounds and touches the spot when you give her a dollar the [ __ ] are y'all talking about you say that on tv you can say that what are y'all talking about we know and ain't a whole bunch of black girls running around you talking to the guy that knows everybody's schedule a lot of y'all have come to see me before work and after work for ages this is joe budden sometimes internet y'all have to shut the [ __ ] up a lot of the promoters in new york i know all of you the owners to the spots i know you i know them all the only thing i didn't know was where the second back door was in starlands that night i broke my foot outside of that who is more qualified to speak on the state of strip clubs in new york that don't work there as a customer that spins this ain't even like broke joe talking now he's spinning in there yeah nah that would be me i agree some of y'all thought that was like a new sentiment in mind it has not been you brought it up it has not it has not yesterday it caught some wind because i was fresh home ready to just talk but i've been saying for a while this is what's going on in new york that's not to say nothing negative about anybody but i certainly would like to see more representation but not just in nightlife culture the barbershop culture we've been having this talk a lot i'd love to see more black businesses just be able to pop up in new york in new jersey i would love that i'd love to walk out my door and go to the black owned who could spot up the street dawg it's just this morning i'm um i'm in a bodega i run into my man in there he's like yo what you doing over on this side of town i'm like i'm gonna go to barbershop he was like yo you got a black barber where like he couldn't like where i've been looking for a black barber i can't find him he was like yo everything around here is dominicans and i had to tell them yo over here in the hood and spot but yeah you know like we can't find black owned [ __ ] like that no more period yeah and it's by design so at some point somebody had to say something and listen what i will apologize for because i made a mistake in just my typing i needed to say some strip clubs because this is not all strip clubs in new york uh there's a few spots over in brooklyn listen now they're in there let me let me ask you this though with this particular topic here you should have said most especially i should have said most that's what you should press the most in the do you think they're catering to what their customer base wants in there evidently i don't think so well well i won't tell them that that's not true what i will say is when the rules were a little different the strip club scene in new york and the culture in new york was way more popping we mean the rules being different when it wasn't this way in new york strip clubs were way more popping and people made way more money you think that culture was way more up um yes i think but i think oh go ahead you are the authority here so i'll concede to your point i just think that now it's more clubs and more women like you gotta think you've been in the strip club culture for 20 something years right back in the day if you were a dancer that was kind of shunned now dancers be out here bro like it's a million it's [ __ ] in paterson alone it's probably 20 15 strip clubs in patterson when you start talking about queens it'd be one right here and right around the corner is another one and they both lit so i don't know i think the money is just being spread out more you get what i'm saying i think the money is being spread out more it's way more establishment can i count to your point of course i agree with you there are more strip clubs today than there had operating concurrently yeah then they have been probably ever ever popping too now let's talk about the girls all the same thank you no i no so so yes but you said it was better when it was diverse and it was more money when i was diverse so i was just saying i'm just talking about the same the scenes oh just think that the culture spread out more so whereas you might have had four spots before now you literally got 20 spots so if it was a million dollars the bus down it was 250 a spot now you got to break it down to 20 different spots you get them yeah and my [ __ ] we talk about the a lot of the strip clubs that we frequent they in queens he talked about brooklyn i was like it's strip clubs in brooklyn yeah yeah cause we don't i was just getting ready we don't be going here manhattan got a million strip clubs yo the internet yesterday acted like i i went to dyckman and said hey what's going on ellie why is no black people that's what they acted like it's important to highlight this they act like i went to washington heights and said where's the black people or like i went to canal street and said where's the black people we're in queens melting pot for you people that are not here most of us and most of us family yeah this thing in staten island you might hear something about what they got going on over there same with over here same with we are in queens [Music] stop it stop it you're talking to the guy that has had to call the owner slash promoter to put the black girl on for the night cause that's the girl that was getting me out of bed that's who you talking to some of y'all might not know it's joe but again i think that goes to knowing your crowd a lot of these [ __ ] be speaking boys and that's what they want to say don't take no more don't take no word from joe don't take no word for me go talk to any black girl working night life in new york go talk to maddie go talk to naya go talk to kai's i can name a bunch hey go talk to the spanish girls that look black such as cardi said she dm me support that [ __ ] of course she does i remember see now who the [ __ ] knew cardi b was black when she didn't talk i mean with spanish they killing her right now because it's easy to say oh girl you spanish shut up nobody knew cardi b was spanish until she had lust and all of that she was a hard worker she had to go in there fight for a night fight for the pole fight for a partner the [ __ ] y'all i'm talking to people in new york yo you put [ __ ] on the internet and people just start chiming in from [ __ ] it's me y'all i was there no cardi b could not just get any night she wanted like she's saying she says and i quote funny thing you say that because when i was a dancer certain clubs wouldn't let me work on latin nights cause apparently quote-unquote latin nights because apparently i didn't look spanish enough with my braids i even spoke about strip club and colorism before she's absolutely right yes as have i but now it's a big thing but i like that there's mad latin nights in the strip clubs but my point had nothing to do with that some of y'all thought that i was saying i'm not [ __ ] spanish girls anymore but no that's what happens you'll say one thing well let me clear it up well let me clear it up then i mean i can't speak for everyone's level of uh comprehension so just in case just so you're clear hey i'm gonna keep [ __ ] spanish girls too these two things gonna more black women need to be in and or have the opportunity to be in nightlife they could choose to say no [ __ ] that but the opportunity needs to be there and we can [ __ ] spanish girls never sell this stuff comprised i never said that and then if you know how joe's stupid brain work i add plenty later on and posted it i think it's crazy i think that when cardi says it you guys shut the [ __ ] up yeah she literally said it before she lived it though she said it before my [ __ ] like i was knee-deep in it you guys shut up you guys shut up but the internet will not shut up no no you don't care neither is joe neither is joe there's one promoter i'm gonna have to speak to him face to face somebody said something i'm gonna have to speak to him face to face [ __ ] your time see that's the thing we got like a whole oh i'm loyal to peace when i piece it up it's pieced up y'all [ __ ] wanna know how your kids are doing but i'm loyal to the smoke yo i can't i can't lie to you and we in this era where there's like and i'm not used to it y'all so y'all gotta help me i may be like an anomaly there's this error of passive aggressive adult men that i can't go beat up because y'all gonna sue so you just gotta wait to you feeling passive aggressively for me to learn that you've got a problem or you feel a certain type of way and i'm not like that when i'm out if i don't [ __ ] with a [ __ ] i don't say a word i i walk right by i might look at the floor of the farm i take a phone yo [ __ ] i might talk loud in your ear walking by your [ __ ] like that's what it when it's nothing but it don't be like that because [ __ ] is respectful but now you just got an error [ __ ] where it's too many of y'all [ __ ] that was spicy yesterday that see me every week cause i'm out [ __ ] side every week alone just it had a lot to say and you're gonna have to stand on that i'm coming what you think i'm gonna stop going strip club wait did they think that you know some of you i don't like it i don't like passive aggressive men if you don't like [ __ ] move around or don't ride dick when you see [ __ ] outside it'd be a whole lot of love the pod it'd be a whole lotta let me get y'all my artists on the pod it'd be a whole lot of yo i love how you spit that intellectual [ __ ] how you talking that [ __ ] your words and boy [ __ ] i don't really want to eat none of that [ __ ] but respectfully i listen to it cause we outside but if it ain't that i need to tell some of y'all who i am yo i do i do i think that's what my 40's gonna be about i'm reclaiming me i am i am oh no i get money right look at my brain but every you know my motto get money right no every now and again you just a good still will fix a [ __ ] but i jump right in the dms hey spicy that's a spicy mayo sandwich spicy chicken that's spicy chicken what they said stay out on our business find the business that paid you no [ __ ] now what now what in the business that page you think i'm i'm a patron here it's not discussion time i'm noticing i'm no longer talking about what i just said now i'm talking about what you just said exactly true and i ain't typing it and i ain't typing it i ain't taking it double check heart heart how hard i like that [ __ ] i love that [ __ ] i get goosebumps imagining [ __ ] like that but you gonna sue mm-hmm you gonna sue mm-hmm yeah he's gonna sue you can't even steal on a [ __ ] [ __ ] or sue but i'm asking man what he said what he said ish i'm gonna ask him about it now well y'all you're talking on the topic of diversive diversity in women you see it man dr umar branching out branching out you see him though right alex he breaks branching you see him branch out a tree limb all the way that's all it was that's all it was stop recording people when they out man yeah you [ __ ] up my internet persona yeah um no he was just kicking it too so she was just showing him something on the phone that she thought was funny he thought it was funny contact information put your number right here that's what she was showing 289 i think she was i think she probably saw something that he would be interested in expounding on with his platform i know 289 and so you know what i mean dr umar found the need to explain to y'all what was going on and he said yes i was at cherry hill mall today jersey what up my iphone crashed last night in the closest apple store with an available appointment today was in jersey as i was leaving the mall i stopped at a kiosk to view the incense and crystals sure the non-african woman is simply the vendor i know it was more than that he went on on instagram and was like jenny you already thought something different [ __ ] y'all dash slow whatever you say he said right uh but dr umar she see i'm from i'm from new jersey which is mall capital of the world and i know what it means like when they step outside of the kiosk and he's trying to uh she's trying to get a direct relationship you know where she can ship the crystals and incenses i see muffins and cupcakes i don't see incense and crystals i see coffee in the background i don't see incense in crystals maybe her name is christmas you got a lot of teeth out she's shaped like a tooth you want that sandalwood tonight yo and you standing mighty close to that non-african woman doctor yo doc yo i'm rolling with what doctor um of course he was just getting incensed and chillin outside wait hold up cause next time he came to the mall he didn't want to have to come inside for the instance no he didn't you bring him outside she had the smells on her phone that's what i'm saying oh yeah she was showing him the smell so you know i got these too somebody somebody tweeted tweeted the [ __ ] said so wait let me get this right you you spending black dollars on white incense you're not buying white incense you're not buying nothing crystals that's what i was when you get that black soap but it's not black it's like it's a long talk about incense i'll tell you that one yeah i don't even understand how incense and crystal's coming why is she typing in her phone pointing at your phone yeah she got instances in the phone now you spelled that wrong it's you and for those of you who have don't know who doctor um i'm inviting them to the show yes i'm inviting them here i might just step out probably right me too oh yeah yeah no we can't do that yeah you know i'm in construction little foundation sheetrock what was that movie man oh no he's here to help that's what he's saying yeah that's what i'm saying we gotta get the permission i don't know i know i don't know what he's saying because if you talk there's balls between us what do you do i don't know about real estate constructive school neither it's cool bro stop move on bro move on that might brother the one yeah it's so easy to get black men to betray each other y'all snowing oh my god oh man a little snow in the mix where do you all be meeting these white girls in the mall kiosk oh no y'all be trying to make me give you i'll try to make me a dress [ __ ] today no no i'm gonna i'm gonna grow up right before your very eyes he said where'd you meet him huh what no where's my phone we're not gonna talk about this not yet okay more important things to get to all right well y'all know i watched the scripps national spelling bee every year maybe some of you don't i didn't unless you were that invested can't miss it what was the uh what was the highlight word this year was the championship round the championship round was the winner spelling like 30 to 40 hard words correctly in 30 seconds she smoked she went crazy that's why i wanted i never saw that before they changed the format it was i never saw the spell off before it was the first one the first oh oh they jazzing up the spelling because they must have changed the form but listen so this this young lady she's 14 years old uh harini logan is her name again round of applause because she was up there just going crazy with the words i don't remember any of them but while it was on i saw someone say which i thought was a bright idea hey they need to have a dumb people spelling bee like of just regular words and see if we can spell them necessary it's always going to catch [ __ ] you i thought that's right i thought that that was such a great concept that i wanted to ask you gentlemen how do you think y'all would fare in that kind of spelling bee a regular word dumb people spelling bee with all of us yeah i'm not the greatest well no i submit i'm winning i submit i'm i'm losing this i was in the house my memory has failed i am the charles uh yourself first and then let's engage how do you think you would you would do in here no in that competition oh well i think i'll do well the spelling is like you think you would pass the second round yeah yes you think you would win parks yeah i probably second round how many rounds is there three let's say let's say this so then submit why are you even in this i didn't know how many rounds it was three yeah i probably make it the second round and i'll be you know i mean someone gave me well i thought that that was such a great idea that why not try it here okay okay so i just wrote it no now oh oh you gonna throw some words out there yeah i wrote some down all right i wrote a few words down in case you guys were down for this type of play sure all right gotta be regular words now when you doing dumb [ __ ] [ __ ] y'all sat word me don't don't tie me so now you're a little nervous no i'm just telling you what you say who goes first i'll go first i have three words for parks three words for ish three words for ice in our spell off okay all right i feel like we need theme parks is first and he's just so happy to take my very first word so i will give it to him necessarily [Music] [Laughter] hey alex as i say these words just pull up the definition so i can read it to her i don't know he can't pull up because the word gonna be on the screen oh yeah no no no i won't look i won't look well let him try to spell it first is it i see that it starts with i don't know you cannot ask us i know use it in a sentence you know how they do it give me the root yeah this is my one word why'd you have to pick the one word i'm out and he throws the seer us you won't even try no i won't so you out i'm out i'm out well you still got two more words i got two more words yeah you might get you should have watched the championship it's funny because the first round is the easiest nah necessary it's my one who who goes next between icelandic who's next i don't care i'll go audience bear with me i think this is cool i think this is funny who's next ish is next this is pretty good but first round is easy ish how do you spell committee woman committee woman yes it's all one word yes see i'm gonna find some snoop dogg music is it two t's a one i am stupid c-o-m-m i'm gonna find some snoop dogg music is it hyphenated no it's one word man oh w-o-m-a-n wait you did it you spelled it wait all right c-o-m-m-i we're on a pod you have to you gotta think [ __ ] you gave me a 14-letter word um is it one tier two no that's real yeah the only hard part is the t alex you're not trying to help him are you no not a word for me are you i spelled it already i didn't know him did you give up a knife i spelled it is it two t's or one two so continue i said it e-e-w-o-n-a-n okay got it all right so you ready yeah give me maneuver you trying to maneuver your way out of this world i will use it in a sentence for you as you think my side chick tried to jam me up with wifey luckily for me i know how to maneuver [ __ ] [Music] m-a-n-e-u-v-e-r yeah yo they got kicked off the real one i just don't like how you just said you're gonna win so now i'm talking about marx is out of here already we have a two-minute facility [Applause] no you're not out because right so like let's say parks gets the next two right and we get the next one that's true okay i'm ready parks yes the word i have for you yes is calabasas shut stuff on two c-a-l-a b-a-s-i-s fight back [Applause] i bring to you the word this is great martyrdom oh that's telephone too m-a-r t-y-r-d-o-m ish is on your ass ice this is on your ass [Music] ice i bring to you demagnetize d-e-m-a-g [Music] d-e-m-a-g-n-e-t-i-z-e and we have a spell-off i kind of want parks to win a little bit [Applause] why you know the white man because he's trash i'm bad he's horrible he's he's like as bad as me just sat out i'm not a good speller yeah so but give it to me because you're my man and we all get to get a word for you too just so you know so i don't care i'm i'm dumb now i [ __ ] dusted my brains away i bring to you i'm ready who a nanny uh w-h-o-o-t-a-n-y i said [Laughter] i don't know who i don't know i don't know i've ever read that word i will repeat the word for you and i will use it in a sentence the word is hoot nanny i submit i don't know and it goes you little bastards better cut it out in that yard with all of that nanny oh [ __ ] yeah the parks is out here i'm not going to out of it [Music] you know what i thought that that was probably the easiest word that i have written down here but i'm familiar with nanny let's get right to it dilliton all right let me help you i'll give it to you hold up i'm with you uh um this is not it's the third round what do you all want me to do you started me with my achilles heel that was rough he said you start there that's [ __ ] up dilettante a person who takes up an art activity or subject merely for amusement especially in a uh desolatory or superficial way a lover of an art or science especially of a fine art this last round is where we get tough john hey y'all look diligent got one l two l's d-i-l i will play mine the word is french and origin if that helps i shouldn't be giving you any clues it doesn't sound because it's all origin yes it does sound that way let's let architecture now put it together d-i-l-i wait wait what do you say okay wrong that's wrong yeah so far oh well i'm going to do that i'm gonna do like ice did d-i-l-l-i t-a-u-n-t that was a you [ __ ] god yeah we stupid it's okay i don't care i'll call me win this real quick wait what's the score right now if ice gets this wrong then you and ish going to overtime round yeah same word you can't do that spell it out my own word it's not my own words no that's a spell off you said you had three words for parks no there's three words for ice i want isis don't work that was the rules that's a game that's a good one [ __ ] you ice yes your round three word is fame so you said dylan feign is a german background which means a warm dry wind descending a mountain as on the north side of the alps wouldn't it also be like uh to feign interest in something like that that's a totally different way is it really okay yes okay huh feign spell homonym it's a noun why are you looking at me son i'm trying to think i can't do that i think this is the greatest idea alex can't even spell it i i'm gonna just shoot out there nah that's tough dawg yeah yeah no this one's nuts [ __ ] just give up you would have never been none of us hey yo yo i got a pod to produce i have a nobody i don't know i didn't know that version of fame do you know how to say this about it give me an english word that shouldn't even count we were doing dumb [ __ ] words no that's that's english no that's black too yeah that's [ __ ] that's that's dumb [ __ ] all right so i gotta come back because my last word i don't know if it's of english whatever but this last word oh yeah y'all's done so we have a tie between issue and ice and two we think of another word i'll come back that's fine but this is that's word and then what about you know the word what is it out there well no because i want to make sure that i pull up the meaning hold up bong bong oh don't don't look at my [ __ ] [ __ ] you got the privacy it's a black screen yeah sure yo you good all right my last word hey hey my last word and this was of uh just french again is fishy fishy a woman's kerchief or shaw that's just a woman what the [ __ ] is wrong with him i'm weirdest generally triangular in shape worn draped over the shoulders or around the neck with the ends drawn together to the breast it's french right yes all right so that means oh eyes might be just not gonna be what i think i just might be trying to smoke it joe you try to figure it out but this is another i'll figure out a word and come back f oh no go ahead i got here don't tell him if he's wrong all right go first yeah uh f-i-c-h-u holy [ __ ] wait hold on i don't know mine is different to isis what you got what's yours f-i-s-c-h-e-o ladies and gentlemen we have a winner ice is correct i didn't count [ __ ] ass [ __ ] oh yeah [Music] yeah i might be with this because we didn't say that that was the official um you said you had a spelling he said he did too we'll come back later one word that was beautiful i liked it no round of applause for both no we didn't agree to that let's come back later both of you are better than me i just so he said i'm thinking like i will find it i will find an english word and we will be we will be back we're gonna do like um if it's gonna be remedial spell we need easier words than this man these words were [ __ ] hard well in the third round i couldn't give you cockroaches all right um ladies and gentlemen not often am i honored not often am i inspired i mean a couple gunshots so we let them know this ain't that pc [ __ ] not often will i leave a vacation early to come and talk to a guest and i didn't i didn't do that this time but we have the amazing the legendary the iconic nick cannon here with us he's here yo he's here listen i love you listen for years i thought he was avoiding the smoke staying safe in the little howard library i didn't know what was going on man you my guy i been wait i've been waiting for this moment i'm honored we're glad to have you here come on man yeah thanks for coming through man yeah i'm a fan i'm locked in always thank you i appreciate it uh we have spoken behind the scenes so i know that you mean that or at least i feel it too this year but you never know with [ __ ] that's close to a billion like you right listen like y'all are good with that [ __ ] y'all could smile when it ain't a smile you all could shake your hand when it's so i mean that's how we got here oh yeah yeah yeah yeah i mean you you're getting there too though like i would say you were definitely on your howard stern [ __ ] like if it ain't it's gonna happen for you because of what you're cleaning up not even when you clean it up but where because you built this i don't give a [ __ ] i'm doing me my way and people have to come to me to get my [ __ ] that's where i started so you you built for it man like so if i'm gonna be i'm gonna be trying to get a loan from joe soon the [ __ ] got the voice he got one of the best voices in hip-hop pause you know i mean it's like see that's why i wore my legs out for nick today yo that's why i wore my hoochie daddy shorts man i had to put something on i'm not going to subscribe to it until it's too much i think it's the length of the short but even like i don't want i don't even want to say hoochie that sure like i don't understand that's like a oxymoron yeah yeah we're not we know not nowadays though [Laughter] let's call them something different like i'm not i don't know but the thing is women keep trying to take away the shorts right like they were largely responsible for camouflage shorts being out here i'm never getting rid of a little shorter now so i mean i mean i'm not comfortable with having my thighs out i'm just keeping it stacked i'm with you i'm with you my [ __ ] got him it's hard to find something to go to the knees though nowadays you're sick i mean nick is saying that about his thighs but i mean i watch your workout routines you pull doing pull-ups for an hour shirtless beating himself on his stomach like what what's going on out there you'd be like i'd be inspired to almost work out all right if [ __ ] just beat on his stomach a hundred times then [ __ ] it but no speak speak to that speak to the speak to the man what is it it's you on some health journey [ __ ] yeah yeah i've always been a little dude you know what i mean and being real insecure about my legs that's even one of the things i can't [ __ ] with the hoochie daddy [ __ ] cause no matter how many pull-ups and [ __ ] i also have skinny legs my health journey loop is 2012 where i thought i was like in super great health was taking all type of [ __ ] supplements and protein shakes and [ __ ] and kidney failure i mean by the bottom line like you know i was in the middle of a workout up in aspen you know what i mean vacation with mariah and the family thinking this is the greatest time ever and literally almost lost my life and from that point on it was just cutting out all of the [ __ ] i went i've done every diet possible from you know they put me on a renal diet which means like no processed foods no sodium from there i went from everything from being plant-based to vegan all that trying to figure it out right now i'm just trying to eat to live stay healthy and you know so what's your habit what does your diet look like now that's why i like i try i don't even call it a diet no more man i just uh just weigh your life just yeah exactly and food is fuel if you look at it like that like i try to only put stuff into my body or the majority of the stuff i put into my body is stuff that's gonna make me better and give me energy other than that like you know every once in a while you know i'm still [ __ ] candy crackhead but i know like i gotta balance that right next to one yeah yeah like but like in the morning like it's all fuel it's just vegetables there's oils it's all of that stuff to keep me grinding and then by the time you know you get to the little later hours where you can chill that's kind of difficult to do uh with your career you know what i'm saying like yeah it's how much sleep do you get like three hours three hours yeah yeah so you know i'm up at 5 00 a.m every every morning so from there you know and that's when i'm putting the fuel that's why i'm taking my my oils the the vegetables all of that type of stuff uh and then so it's not really a breakfast the first thing that i actually eat is probably around lunchtime and and from there you solid dinner you eat whatever you wanted didn't it okay i'm so so glad that you went there uh but i noticed as we age or as i age said health and stamina and your diet all those things are really important to how you perform sexually facts so if you were going there you weren't i don't have no other question for you outside of sniper list questions we're going to get to the album we're going to get to the house we're going to get the day time get your [ __ ] up we're going to get to all that but this diet you can't fool me with all this life lupus living [ __ ] you can't [ __ ] without this diet like you do facts in fact it has to be that that is uh one of the benefits of eating and operating the way that i do that you know we out yeah you going crazy but uh okay the album yes there are joints on the album appreciate you that's a lot coming from you man and this is not the album the album's coming the album i worked with everybody from babyface to stevie wonder like it's on some real like we trying to go you got to stop real talk so but this [ __ ] was the mixtape this is the [ __ ] i came here to talk small [ __ ] are you going to be like nah i'm going to get homeboy that plays the keyboards or am i going to get stevie wonder wonder babyface everybody's on the on the new album but this i mean this ain't no [ __ ] either i mean the reason why i say it's the best album or the best project cause it's not an album best project of 2022 because i got chris brown on there i got brandy on there i got rick ross on there you know what i mean if you listen close you might hear mariah somewhere in that joint uh but it's so it's it's it's real talk like ain't nobody really doing anything you know king r b jacques is even in that a couple times inside we on there so so um why you put it outbound because you're just too rich you don't know what to do just border i'm gonna be honest like honestly he's like yo this was my first love that [ __ ] too but realistically it's therapeutic for me i mean as somebody who goes to therapy a few times a week my happiest is when i'm in the studio talk answering the [ __ ] in the comments talking studio the crib yeah well now i got an offer i got i got a few studios i wish y'all stopped um but you know this is this is what the release especially the explicit tape i got to talk my [ __ ] i got to answer everything with the baby daddy questions and you know who's doing the sniper [ __ ] all of that's on there and i get to be a different type of [ __ ] on different songs when i want to talk my [ __ ] with rick ross i could talk about you had two versions you had a clean version well no because my album is mainstream it's like i said it's with the elites of stevie wonder and babyface and it's music and it's you know orchestras and choirs and you know what i mean like it's real music to show myself as a musician this is me talking my [ __ ] on some wrong b [ __ ] some hip hop get my [ __ ] in there do records with folks who dug like that type of [ __ ] well that's why i personally would never discount a project from you because of your longevity number one and your strong relationships which is people right so like if you make a phone call i'm not assuming some of my favorite acts to mail it in with you right right like they showing up for real facts and i mean i one of the reasons why i've always been a joe budden fan just lyricism and all that type of stuff but the fact that i always felt like we were kind of putting a similar box early on kind of was out there around the same time just where a different energy in hip-hop it was the jiggy era it was you know like even me being a person who could sing and do it wasn't cool to sing you had to be tough you had to talk your [ __ ] and i came i came from nickelodeon so [ __ ] really wasn't want to hear me talk [ __ ] at all and if joe had such a record that was so on fire that when you put somebody up there like that it's like oh he's almost he's pop you know what i mean like he went to a place where people forgot about the mixtapes and all that [ __ ] he was like he's mr pump it up right so i i was mr gigolo he was to pump it up and we was kind of out there at the same time and i was rooting for him in the same way that he was rooting for me and y'all was both sniping so i'll trade my pump it up for his drum line i remember one time we was uh it wasn't some island mtv spring break some [ __ ] like that and it was a dinner and i'm the joe budden fan he's sitting there breaking bread and he was he's literally i'm with someone [Laughter] and he was just like you're doing it he's like he's like [ __ ] what i cuz i'm like yo i'm a fan he's like [ __ ] what i got going on see because contrary to popular belief right i've been outside for a little while so i was there and this is one of my [ __ ] inspirations today but that don't mean i don't have a past so i 100 percent have hated on their candidate i'm 100 percent happy when drumline was i don't know if i was running around just saying go nick i don't know right but when you just watch somebody be not only themself but be great and kill for years in multiple fields right like when you see these people in person and you see the girl that they went it helps you to reevaluate your life and the things that you're doing and then the girl that you're with and the girl that you can attract and then you just give a little head on across the yo i see you you know you know yo on that sniper list because i know you've had this talk before this is gonna give me so much [ __ ] trouble [ __ ] no no it ain't listen if 20 kids don't get you in trouble you can have this talk listen where do you rank yourself without your media training and your publicist in the back on the sniper list joe i do do i put uh do i start naming other individuals i mean you don't have to yeah yeah if you want to you can we don't pressure people you know as you put it out there you know the people that with the sniper list they talk they're pretty well pretty well drake's in all of those types but the ones that i feel like don't get talked about you got to go crazy the ones i feel don't get talked about enough is the justin timberlakes is the mark wahlberg you know what i mean because again they got publicist protection the leonardo dicaprio he's on the top [Music] jeter of course but see like he was sloppy with his too so he like we talking about him i mean but the one that oh disguise theirs derek jeter he was pretty good it was known but it was never no messy [ __ ] even but with his targets his targets like elite yo even how he speaks of the list is absolutely y'all not even yeah yeah sat down y'all just let him breeze through the yo yeah you know i was in aspen and i was working out because the thing about the sniper list well what he said was yo take me out of the drake mix that you guys no that's dope no that's what he said but loki said look y'all don't even know half of them that's what it is no drinks yo y'all know them [ __ ] y'all don't know what i was doing at 26. that's the key to that and i always felt very like oh y'all the ones y'all know about that's why i was so open and free to talk about all the ones that everyone was on paparazzi pictures with because there's a there's an elite bunch that don't want to be mentioned i guess that you know by definition the sniper should be happy you didn't know i was there when i killed you it was me and my spider that's the key to a sniper yeah when did you first learn that you were a sniper though when did you learn that you were him because i think you were still shocked when you got mariah [ __ ] scene in your face but he was that shocked that [ __ ] was showing us the dog houses on tv all types of wildlife yeah i mean i knew i knew i could definitely i knew it wasn't unachievable i never even said that word and in that sense because like i guess i'm gonna be honest when when drumline happened it got different from me because i mean i i've been in this game since the 90s and i've been the kid like looking up so i did i tried to pop out of leah a bunch of times and you know i was yeah that would be hanging out in front of destiny's shows we did homeschooling together on the set of nickelodeon i'm just saying these are real topics in the mid-90s trying to be that guy right but once drumline happened for me no more and it was different like i didn't know like i literally stepped into like no that that's a grown woman she wanna [ __ ] all right like like i didn't know what to do because when you become a leading man in a successful film said leading me he's gonna increase killing this right like it's different it's completely different michael b jordan might know what i'm talking about like because when you step stop it yo i mean we stopping i'm just talk it's different when you're the leading man you tried it you tried it i'm just saying it's different that's all i'm saying so when that happened for me my my whole life changed and i was like okay now i got it whatever you have to say yeah you said you do you don't no i just don't like it michael's been drawing camp cause you know why these [ __ ] is in the inner internet generation [ __ ] you're 41 years old you have people pulling up in the black planet in my space days when nobody knew who was coming to my house and you live in l.a yeah la is different too different it gets deeper than that you know i've heard sometimes i say we gotta you gotta sometimes you gotta reintroduce people to people i won't allow us to talk about nick with michael b jordan yeah cause nick look that's good and he's from jersey shout out his little bro but but that's even but the thing about it is nick looked around one day and had so many women he was forced to make a show out of it i don't know if people are understanding how he even came up with while in out and the name and the concept and it was bio biographical it was yo i got all the baddest chicks and conceited yo and i'll be wild and i'll be wilding out yo so listen right this is weird thing amongst men where like where you learn about how much respect you have for a man as a man is interesting right so on the way here we talk about p at uh p from quality control had a party in atlanta yeah and it was beautiful yeah it was like the r it was really beautiful and like excellent they was all there it was all there nothing it was all there yeah it was in there all of them was there no they were there all the girls that purposely don't say hi back to you when you dm them was there and you figured out why they not oh god it's what i just said right so your respect level goes up for men when you can centralize that way my first time doing while in hell i thought i was coming to perform and for a great look and it would help my career this visibility that was fun man i was just talking about that the other night that show not what i was there for you was there for joe can't even say i can't even i don't know i can't i can't i can't even say it i know i think it was a successful uh show though you know few summers i had to thank this [ __ ] in my head god damn got him all over this place right so now just talk to me about how you came up with uh uh i'm joking but the concept for wilding out right talk to me about the successful run the uh some of the behind the scenes turmoil that went public yeah we'll talk about it and how it got resolved so honestly it goes back to 2004 when just when i'm talking about i'm a leading man i'm popping i'm movies people i'm i've stepped away from nickelodeon all the television stuff because now i got a record label and people are saying nick why do you want to go back to television why would you ever go back to television for women and [Music] no but in that sense it's like really to put my people my fam on my crew at a time we would hang out in these comedy clubs the comedy store the improv the last factory in l.a and it'd be we'd be out on the corner and it's me and people that nobody had ever heard of at the time like you know cat williams and d-ray davis kevin hart atheon crockett and you know when we sit in there they like [ __ ] you on and we all came i just got a name i was like but they like what you put us on and so in that i was like yo we should do a show about the [ __ ] we doing right here like out here talking [ __ ] freestyling cracking on each other's mama's you know and so i rented out a comedy club off of pico you know what i mean with my own bread got some cameras got the squad together uh no network no network got it shot it you know what i mean i had i had a deal you know what i mean i had to deal with that mtv i've been hosting trl and i had to deal that bet and so that's that's what happens when you get put on you do deals different places and they want to see what you got but instead of just going in and pitching some stuff that they didn't understand stuff i shot it with my own money and now i have ownership over this thing that i caught wilding out and when they saw that they was like absolutely one like i first first a pilot episode it was me kevin hart loon was the special guest i had loons to come pull up he was on fire yeah yeah like and we shot it in this club the wild and out girls was literally like friends like it was it was i know yeah yeah without dropping the names invisible faces and mtv loved it and from that for whatever reason i'm great lawyers great attorneys i was able to keep my brand and have ownership over this throughout the years so you look up you know by the time time goes around just long story short by the time we get to 2017 [ __ ] they're they're like yo they and i'm i'm we on tour now i got restaurants you know what i mean they look bad come look something like we don't own this you know like all these years later they said that oh because if you notice and i feel like when wilding out first came out my competition was pumped it was me and ashton kutcher and that was the one that they held up and they embraced him so they like let nick do his little thing we got pumped and what nick's doing over there with the hip-hop guys whatever and then you outlasted them and then outlasted them then they got another guy that they got really excited about i was like oh we got ridiculous they're ridiculous yeah right they had on another one of those another one of those that's cool but the whole time i'm over here quiet grinding you know like in ascending yeah yeah but then they look back and see the numbers and totality and they're like and then they look up and it's a billion dollar brand it has many verticals from touring from brick and mortar merchandise gaming restaurants like so none of their other brands have done that still their number one digital brand to this day is welling out if you look at the numbers and everything that it does and they have to pay attention to it now so in 2017 they're like okay we got to be your partner there's like we can't allow this we look crazy to our shareholders of course you own all of this on our network so you know we there's some quiet deals and and they got me real comfortable in order to give up half of what i want and and i say this to anybody who's watching this to have a hundred percent of nothing something that's not worth anything it's [ __ ] so all of you who want to own their masters and all of that [ __ ] if ain't nobody listening to your [ __ ] masters is worth nothing but if you have 50 with a conglomerate with a partner who will push you to the next level that's worth more than a hundred percent of nothing so in that sense i sat down with my team and like if you enhance this this way if you support it if you invest that's what investing is that's how you put these financial groups together you get a bunch of people with money and say now we own this together and now it's worth it let's push it this so that's what i pretty much did with viacom and paramount and now that we're partners the touring has gone to the next level now i was touring on my own now we touring with live nation slow down take some stress off your back too yeah slow it down buddy putting a lot of information out there and i want to pause and some of this because what we were talking about before you got here in music was artists that are four five and six albums in with the label and now that we're down to the last album and it may be time to renegotiate or y'all invest money to make me bigger y'all might not want to do that and now it appears that really big artists are getting their projects stepped on so now when you say hey they looked up all these years later and realized they didn't own now that took them a long time yeah that took them a long time they were looking in the wrong direction but my thing which with you before you get to the resolve is well if they felt like that why did it appear to be a campaign to disassociate you from the brand well then we'll get to that so because because this is 20 this is 2017. and i'm still like you got to admit like the golden boy of viacom i this is like because not only did i have mtv on like i had nickelodeon online from 2008 around 2009 to 2018 i was the chairman and head executive of the teen division of nickelodeon so i was the chairman like so i went from being 17 on the channel the youngest we could jump rider and all of that to running it we need to jump this [ __ ] i was i had the same office size as the the ceo you know what i mean i was i was on the 40th floor he was on the 54th floor same layout over in times square like i was that guy for that was just nickelodeon not to me i had another office on the mtv floor i didn't even get to fox yet we got there yet this nigga's crazy this is just vodka i mean i personally like once i got married with mariah i threw the suits on i was like i want to be a corporate [ __ ] for a minute so i literally went in and got a corporate job i became i got a job at def jam i was under la reid i ran the teen division of ireland and i ran the team division of nickelodeon at the same time and that's where we we developed justin bieber that he came out of that like there's so many other pro like it was projects that i was quiet on that i was getting so so what you're saying is we're all broke but i just i've i've been hustling for a little time so during that phase in my life i was on my court right now let me throw some hate on this let me at least attempt you can't you can't but you try it's all right because listening to him like listen to him what he just said uh well one of the things he said was that in oh three he was allowed to get deals from separate networks i was still stuck on that sentence because everybody was not allowed to do that in 2003. if you over here hey [ __ ] we running all your [ __ ] through over here you can't go over there that's what was happening all three but nick because he was the man back then and that's kind of what i want to talk about how did you come into that position like i don't know because i wasn't paying attention from the start yeah but like how did you walk how did you walk in to this how did you attain such leverage at such an early age so what i mean i'm gonna keep it a stack i mean it was the relationships and the fact i was the young dude that everybody wanted to be in business with and the first person that i got but how did you become that even so i was i was doing stand-up i was hustling i was doing stand-up and music simultaneously in in uh l.a so i was an anomaly uh probably 15 16. it's 95 now that's already crazy by the way yeah crazy so so if you see the fat tuesday documentary that they just put out there like i was the kid i was the so it was chris tucker it was chappelle the way and then me this kid like and like i would literally everybody from shaq to jamie foxx like i used to sleep on jamie fox couch or like drive from school in san diego and i would sleep on jamie fox couch to go do stand up the next morning and head back to school type [ __ ] so they knew of me so by the time 96 went on and just to know what the industry was how did you even get there though yeah like at 15 like you were i was just i mean i was a kid telling jokes and ramen like right making cds this is before the internet so it's not like you had a bible drive up that was a thing so they used to do these things to have like sprite nights and soul train awards and stuff and like you we would drive the two hours to be sunset used to be a [ __ ] movie like i remember driving down sunset one time and like no [ __ ] like biggie and mace was across the street you know at the things the mondrian or the it was the house of blues over here big inmates were just standing there and they like gray suits across the street would snoop in the dog pound at the comedy store and low riders like his [ __ ] named uh from my guy from oakland richie ritchie was signed a death jam with you riding up and down sunset on an orange harley like like it was just cra aliyah and mark pitts was like it was just it was [ __ ] was outside for real and you got excited about [ __ ] called like sprite night and the bet like what i don't even know you were just part of the bbq awards it was the soul train awards back then and i was a kid in all of this [ __ ] the lakers would just be riding up and down and rolls royces and [ __ ] like and it was just oh so i was in the middle of this and once and i was the kid so they're like who the [ __ ] is this little kids like me and ray j you know what i mean like we were the youngest [ __ ] out there like legend like i remember i remember being this [ __ ] we had like a lexus land cruiser you think it's got good friend groups you think it's got good [ __ ] friend groups from 14 you know one of the first sentences he said was yo i don't know how i pulled this off but my lawyer was amazing still same lawyer since i was 16 years old he said yo i don't know how my lawyer worked this deal but they worked it to where the same lawyer and that's how i'll get to it yo she was you know jamie foxx's lawyer she was so it was it was people and back and that's i'll paint the picture for you again too in the mid 90s and they said this in the fat tuesday document they was handing out millions to they called them holding deals and this was the time of like upn the wb all and so every black comedian that you saw on def jam or fat tuesday uh a white agent would come in and say half a million dollars and they would just pat so before i was 18 years old i had met my first holding there what happened i jamie foxx had this uh festival called laughapalooza that he did in atlanta and i was the youngest kid to ever rock that joint and will's the tape started going around and will smith saw the tape and he's like i need to meet that kid that's where the joe hey came in because that was the rumor that was going around about why nick was so popping very early you know that's will's man anything he said goes like wait huh huh wait why why damn fast like and because he saw so i remember i got a chance to will had an office at you where they shot the fresh prince of bel air nbc universal he had a whole wing a whole [ __ ] building over there and i went in there and i talked like i was talking to his development executive and he walked in the room he's like yo i've been waiting to meet this kid he's like you remind me so much of me the fact that you're funny that you can rhyme that people like you he's like you're gonna go far in this business and he signed me to his record label to his television production company and really just was on some big bro [ __ ] like the the whole time and i'm like yo just like all-important yeah like my first cassette i bought was he's the dj i'm the rapper like parents so as much as i you know my second cassette was life is too short though so like as much as i'm like i i gotta bow down i [ __ ] with this dude even like you know no courtney hate or none of that [ __ ] she treats you and he put me on you know what i mean like 17 years old i'm getting a check for 200 000 so and a six episode commitment for idea that i just had i came up with this idea i was like yo i'm gonna do my version of the fresh prince of bel-air i'm gonna call this [ __ ] loose cannon and it's about me in a military school and will's like done called quincy jones she called the head of wb on they were all on the set of the pilot we shot this [ __ ] it was loose cannon i had the same he had the fresh prince wrap i wrapped the beginning of it it was like sean mcbride played the the my uncle phil you know what i mean like it was it was fire you know what i mean like and from that i thought i was on six episodes they didn't pick the [ __ ] up [ __ ] goes broke immediately but i still got will in my corner right so in that sense we started working on the music he put me on the road with bismarck he put me on the road with jazzy jeff r.i.p for life uh and then in that sense he he cultivate i was there during the whole what was it big willie style millennium process where he was working with everybody from jade to trackmaster and i'm watching this and i'm peeping how he's going diamond with these records he's winning grammys i'm like alright i'm paying attention to how dude is moving at this point you're in a contract with willa though yeah yeah and it's still the 90s you know what i mean so then by the time i get my shot and when my show didn't get picked up from the wb i was like i don't always want to be in will's shadow the whole time i want to do some [ __ ] he put me on but i want to show that i'm worth something more and then i i just don't i don't like to be in [ __ ] entourages i'm not that [ __ ] i don't want to be like hey we're all going to miami let's get on the gym [ __ ] all of that if i'm not making my money yeah i want to be able to sit at the guts table in gut too you know what i mean like i don't and that at a young age i thought that so i went i went here jay-z and wilson both taught me how to play guts [Music] on a private plane that's a stunt when they were playing guts i had to leave the office yo [ __ ] would be losing hundreds of thousands of dollars under two handcuffs hey about to start go ahead walk down walk down the hallway you'll lose your life up man anyway so long story short i was like i want to be able to do that myself so i went back to nickelodeon where i had it started and will and them have found me and said all right well you see will is rocking with me let me do my own thing and then that's when i wrote my because i wrote the show with will too and i wrote my own show for nickelodeon and did a deal over there and actually started their record label nick record slash jive when i was 19 years old so that's how all of that then from there i could write my own check in either every way but that's why when it was like that that that little that little part of hip-hop where like all of the haters like wanting to say undercarriage cornball well i mean we got to dissect that that comes from we have to think though it's not just hate that came from hip-hop's obsession obsession with hyper masculinity we have to dissect it if because if that the [ __ ] on year nine of this yeah like what are we calling corny here all right oh man uh wait so now nah that's why i needed to talk to this guy a lot of that's the new york basin what the cornish i don't even care about that things would be stupid man running a clinic and how to get things done on a level where you're just black and excellence yeah you just can't do he's hot but because i'm not out here networking no negativity no drugs in that street [ __ ] you're corny no matter what you do and that's the way it's viewed bring me to the nbc the bomb so you did that did you birth the um any time uh something going on with a black person oh he's trying by nbc like that came from you right no i mean that's what cosby you have to i'm gonna keep it at stack though and even with that whole thing i mean let's let's keep it a stack that's a publicly traded company it's very difficult you can't buy that those are rumors yeah but he was getting a whole lot of money and in that sense um the nbc opportunity for me was one of a pivotal point in my career as well because i didn't see it you know what i mean i was too busy trying to be an executive and didn't want to host i actually don't really like hosting [ __ ] you know what i mean i'm good at it yeah but it's like to me i'd rather be an artist you know and so if you i've turned down every hosting opportunity but for this play it was like yo you can do your deal at nbc and i was wanting to create a bunch of scripted stuff some variety stuff and i was like and they were like yo we'll do the deal we just need you to host america's got talent for us and i was like hi well i'll do that but make sure you green light this this this and this put this on and they're like you'll get that and more it's a big deal if you just do this i look up seven eight seasons later and i'm making money like and that's the thing too like and i don't know stunt no but you've been stunned like this i sit back when i look at these forbes list sometimes and i'm like i don't know i'm with you buddy come on walk me through cause i'm gonna get there no i'm getting in one day you there and i'm gonna be worse than this but let's talk real talk people look how much respect someone like uh ryan seacrest gets or even somebody like and let's let's keep it a step ryan seacrest he got he don't produce he produced the kardashians and i'm i was there before he met the kardashian i was just saying like in that sense where i've i've done what he's done and more he's saying what we talk about all the time here he's saying all the time and i'm not a [ __ ] but look at what i made this year first of all i don't want y'all to know what i mean like but if he did that deal with one show one let's count what chris i just use him as an example i [ __ ] love ryan in podcasting all the time exactly it's the same exact thing love to ryan seacrest but this guy has done it time and time and again comedian acting writing from this network that this team that team that team it's like me performing with a different coach for 30 years like that should be applauded and [ __ ] like that for some strange reason it's not recognized it's elvis [Music] i mean let me ask you but i don't like that when it comes to nick because like see it's different with me right like with me and a few others they could use the term shock jock like we've spoken about here uh with kevin hart they could say hey we didn't like that little joke that you went on and you can't do the oscars like nick they just be like grabbing that straws to find [ __ ] the dead the dead him about he's been clean you have something to do with this [ __ ] fox now let's get the fox i cannot believe that this guy has to deal with every network in the world if they could put a hat on some of y'all made y'all sing a song and it's a smash 20 other times joe at some point as a black creator when you continue to do this y'all got to give it up and giving it up no they now no they're they are not accolades no i'm just talking about them because whoever that the field demands he's talking about the financial side are they giving up the space oh i ain't talking about that i ain't talking about that because whatever he's paid he's not paid like he should be paid that's not true whatever he's paid i don't know his business and i don't want to know he ain't paid like the [ __ ] he's supposed to be paid for all he's delivered to every network that all of you watch that's not true and [ __ ] not speaking on the people that do this and that have done this for mad long like they supposed to we're just going to watch them at the little library show with [ __ ] we're cooking controversial and we're going to take a little clip and we're going to put it out but what he's doing and how he's dressed doing it the clothes budget on that uh on that morning show oh oh yeah yeah yeah we was going crazy now i had that was all my i had to do it you were like lilac and green one day i was like somebody's tallest is going crazy up there we had to i came in here one day like yo i don't know who who is dressed better and listen they kill me for how i dress so i can't even speak on this but between and i'm an old [ __ ] steve harvey and you and i know i saw you on tv one day say yo steve is the og yeah so then i was like all right then i could stop talking about this yeah i mean i you got to give them the prop [ __ ] was the first person ever suit shopping so i learned like even when it was the big suits and [ __ ] he really got it my man my man what's my man my man my god my god my god i don't even all i do is like terrance j picks now look where he came from all i do is like them y'all still support you and i love everything you're doing but you're gonna piss me off when you see a [ __ ] casually and that's just loki i'm not trying to put terrans with nick but on that scale you see a [ __ ] just with a casual 20 30 just living it's like nah hold up hold up a second and what should be highlighted you go bring it back you bring it back you talk you come talk to us don't tell me hey guys if you call and pick up the phone come give that advice like that each one type of thing that's what's up so look stay here right he said it's what's important to him let me ask you a question do you feel that because you don't necessarily have a street background or the street accolades that everybody else has no no no no oh god no no no no no listening bro okay there will be no reason no do you believe that we don't necessarily support you in the manner that we should uh because in my opinion like i've watched you for years your background church all of that yeah do you feel like because you don't rejoice in the struggle of drug dealing and i came from the bottom and i'm up now i ej j is great right everybody here loves jay yeah but do you feel like you don't get you're just dude because of that be honest not look there let's look that in the light it's supposed to be yeah let's bring it all the way home too because i know we wanted to get to the fact of when a [ __ ] did get canceled yeah um that was an eye-opener for me and that was something because i know i saw who was [ __ ] with me who was rocking with me from my business and who wasn't who wanted to quickly say i didn't even understand it and was quickly to say i was a uncle tom because i apologized or i was or or i wasn't i i was pretending to be woke or or a hotep or all of this type of stuff and i was like i said that [ __ ] like it really confused me because not only did i always stick my neck out for the culture and even didn't can downplay where i came from or what i did i literally said yo i've done everything i could have ever wanted to do in my life in my career now it's my time to create opportunities and give other people the game and teach other people and in that process of trying to do that [ __ ] [ __ ] on me where i'm like this is the time i'm trying to help i got money i don't even have to be doing this [ __ ] ever again have my little online multi village cannon island with a bunch of kids that look like me and never talk to y'all again but now i'm at this state where i'm like i'm trying to put on for my people like that's what wilding out is about that's what my podcast was about that's what all these other avenues that i'm reaching now i want to help the community because i feel like [ __ ] [ __ ] can actually do this we're at a point where we can get knock on the doors and be like change this legislation do this let's talk today let's put up the bag let's build this let's start a lobby about this for this and now [ __ ] don't even want to support me when i'm really trying to help us that's where it got that's what was heartbreaking that's that's where depression sinks let me ask you something did you say that's when depression sinks in i can understand that being a dark time in a dark place and feeling a little you're feeling alone in there like nobody's rocking but in that you guys in that do you go through a phase where you say oh that's how y'all on it i worry about me and the money then that's like that's sometimes how you get up out of that that funk that's that's all you can be like yo self-preservation the world is against me i gotta say [ __ ] y'all if you said [ __ ] me you know what i mean like so that's the only way i can get out because otherwise all of that low frequency is going to drown me it's going to kill me because y'all not even when i'm saying help me y'all saying [ __ ] you tell me all right [ __ ] it i know i'm i know the cycle i could swim too yeah i know i'ma come back and now i see who was [ __ ] with me and who wasn't i watched how each and every person moved throughout that from from my agents to to the people like i learned so much from from the comments to the agents to the [ __ ] who really make my money count to [ __ ] have no effect on my money i saw how everybody shifted and it was a eye-opener it was all i said it was it was a a character kaleidoscope i saw everybody's true colors form into that [ __ ] and it just that hurts though yeah hundred percent it's some of them some of the people i'm like oh you was just in it for the money oh you don't think i'm as strong as i i actually am oh you actually believe with these people you've been rocking with for a minute too forever yeah that gotta hurt and that's the thing where you got to step back and you and it's family members it's it's people in it and really what it takes is like everybody cognitively are not at the same space to where it's like they just don't know how how to process what's going on they just hear they see a headline they see don lemon talking [ __ ] about you [ __ ] man but you don't know that somebody wrote that copy for him you know there's a producer that put that so then when i sit down and say yo you see i'm down why are you kicking me you know what i mean are you whoever that person is but you also see you see you see people who stand firm and don't give a [ __ ] about this this is why i act like this that's what i mean because this when you when joe's talking to him i don't feel a way when they do it to me they do it to [ __ ] that they should not do it too and it's the same i'm shutting the [ __ ] up because he's talking that [ __ ] right now but man yo let me so i from what i heard um yeah guys i heard mtv during the debacle offered you guys to take over while on that was that true and that's the thing and i think i think fly and we talk about this all the time because you know we on the tour right now he's going crazy and we even talked about it last night um to where it's interesting how they played i think i forgot i don't know if he was on his podcast or where he put it he said there was never a direct offer of you know they they allow scenarios and media to say things like hey would you ever think about doing this you float it you know what i mean and and they they test in the water to see but i don't think there was ever a full conversation because at the end of the day you gotta remember i'm owner of this brand so when all of that went down and it was a a conversation where someone wanted to make an example of nick cannon that's how it actually came back to me like and and when that pissed me off and enraged me even more that someone felt that they had the ability that's what we're fighting against that's the exact [ __ ] we're talking about is that you you have the power to make an example we've let this go on too long we're going to make an example out of him and that's how it came back to me so then therefore you ain't making an example of [ __ ] give me my [ __ ] back and i'll show you what i'm gonna do so then it got a little okay the conversation is different we we thought we we owned them yeah where now we to really make this work and we got to come together he didn't recognize who the [ __ ] he was yeah y'all don't have the power or ability to shut me up i can't [ __ ] talk about it so in that sense we had a very we had told yeah truth and reconciliation that's it's real stuff so then when that came to play all of those conversations of it wasn't even about who's gonna host this show anymore because wilding out is much bigger than the show nick cannon is more than it's not a show it's it's yeah and it could have got it could have got to that level to where it wasn't even about entertainment anymore and because you know cooler heads prevailed and we had that truth and reconciliation now there's things that are going on you know even amongst communities and things that where it's like all right well let's get to the table and really let's let's let's have those reparation conversations in a real way of how to get to let's talk about how to empower our community let's let's talk about how oh y'all got your own police force why we can't get our own police force teach us how y'all did that you know what i mean so in those conversations now we can have some real conversations because the truth is out there we reconciled we apologized we were supposed to apologize but now let's get to the root of what's really going on and that's where to me i'm the best utilize because now i can sit here and be a true conduit to say what do we need to do okay tissue paper feelings aside we all said all of that stuff now let's get to the root of this of how we can actually empower each other right and that's that's to me entertainment is cool i'm trying to really help my people and put my people on long term too steve harvey i saw a clip another one of my inspiration um he was talking about how you came to nbc with whatever the show idea was he had america's got talent right right um with you and and to the point about putting your people on i don't think it can be understated that while mtv was trying to figure out a new direction for a new generation and not mtv but viacom right was trying to figure out which is now paramount they're getting rid of uh you know little rebrand they don't read brand is no longer buying paramount um trying to figure out their new direction for the the new generation and how they would acclimate while in out was there to be consistent as a consistent driver of content engagement and all of these things right the beauty of it is he bought them the time and they figured it out they said all right we're gonna bring back all our old shows every one of them from jersey shore to yom tv raps to all all the things that worked we're bringing them back and this is years in the making over there and now the host of your own tv raps is conceited conceded it comes full circle yeah you can see who you gave the opportunity to uh smack as well of course yes but talk to me about what that signing did or what that acquisition did it seemed like it just brought a different type of style flavor and clearly someone else recognized that because he's where he should be a hundred percent hundred percent and that's my god so and battle rap culture is what inspired me to bring wildin out back i'm gonna be i'm sitting good i'm married to mariah i'm at the crib and i'm literally on youtube like oh this [ __ ] what is this this we know cause we all went up there to fire at you about mariah leaving yeah he doesn't care [ __ ] shut up [Music] you read between the lines dude but no in all seriousness though the while in out going back to what we were saying while in out went away because i got married and i really was like i don't really want because we know what the environment is like to keep my household the way i need to keep playing with you i'ma stop away from this and i actually i started focusing on the business of being married the business and that's that is a business what is that what is what is the business of being american i've never been this married especially when you're married to one of the biggest icons in music there's there's things you must protect there's privacy there's there everything is an acquisition everything is that you don't step it mariah don't step out the house it cost her a hundred and fifty two hundred thousand just to walk out the house so you gotta think about the levels of and that's everything from security to hair makeup so every step you make and um we're building a partnership here so this i'm i've never dealt with these level of numbers that now i'm 50 50 in so and i ain't no punk so my ego is even telling me i got to be a bread winner too i can't i'm not a boy toy i'm not i've been getting did that because people didn't know that yeah you was getting money like that so they was looking at you like yo she took an inspiration yeah they're like why is she married but like we was we wasn't far off yeah yeah yeah great and i would say and you know without going to the mo you go get crazy when i started she definitely had more money than me you know what i mean it's very apparent by the time we got there we was sharing you know all of the bills just say that you know from that i make she makes some other kind of jet bills and stuff like a little i take a jet once a month she on it every week it's different but but in that sense i'm like this is i've never dealt with these level of numbers so i got to step back and really figure out i'm talking to financial advisors and and and and board members i never i wasn't on i was getting checks but i wasn't at that level you know what i mean in international meetings about what we're gonna like it was it was different the access of the type of business that i had so from there i stepped away from entertainment for a minute because i was like yo i can really go get education over yeah i can get to these back and then i reeled it back in when i was like okay well the root of it is the entertainment so you never want to leave that alone so that's where i still kept all of my deals and that's how i was saying like with nbc i didn't go in there to host america's got town i went there to do a business deal to like we were setting up animated deals for our family we were setting up you know what i mean it was stuff like that to where we were just trying to produce content and so that business made me step away from being the fun-loving hip-hop guy on mtv and once i figured out what it what happened i was watching the battles and all of that and at the time my shouts out to my dude chris mccarthy who's who now shout out to chris mccarthy who runs the guy as well runs it all and he's that dude well deserved yeah he definitely deserves everything that he that he has right now but at the time he was just working at mtv too and it was like they wasn't even giving him the respect and i still owned wildin out mtv2 he had no money so he and i had to literally go out and try to convince advertisers to buy wild and out he was like yeah we did this show a couple years ago and we went to everybody pepsi mountain dew and i have i had relationships at all of these places and we got money to make the show because we didn't have the money so even so even then in my deal i still had ownership even when we brought it back so then i was able to put on cats that nobody had ever heard of like to conceded like like the dc young flies like the hitman hollers and charlie clips and i was such a fan of battle rap i was like yo i'mma bring because i feel like we used to do rap battles on wildin out in the early 2000s in that somewhat inspired what the battle rap stuff i mean along with eight mile and all of that stuff but we took this fun stuff and they turned it into a sport and then so i was like i want to go back what they did and bring it back to television so that's why i just dove in and handed the baton to cats like conceded and hit man holler and want them to become the biggest stars they can possibly become because not only of their gifts and their skill level but the fact that to show that there's different ways to get to this hip-hop bag and that's where we landed and on top of that you're able to right like i'm listening to you and your story is incredible you know like if you really understand that someone's just your story is incredible but and chris is amazing so credit to him but and what you're saying i've had fights a million of them that say hey why y'all don't just bring me to advertising if it's my show and i came up with it and y'all can't sell it right wouldn't it make sense for us to collaborate and go in together there's a whole whole bunch of people in between them yeah that's the thing it's job security it's people who have those those relationships are there and that's why they don't like when we go direct to them they don't like us yeah but listen but he was in alignment like with some good people so it allowed him the space to now just look at some talent to bring in and help this hey we got the back end right we're doing ads right we got these relationships right we're going to run here i own this who can make this seated hitman [ __ ] make it hot the beautiful woman just whoever it is like just the the your business acumen uh man i can't say enough about it i appreciate it um the audience to the audience that thinks that like we do salacious [ __ ] i'm not asking him about his kids or his kids moms because not only do i not care about that stuff it's none of my business but what i will say bring it all the way is when the topic comes up i don't get into it everybody shit's personal but back to sniper lists for a man to be able to have this open discourse to land in this with this result yeah of harmonious interaction between multiple women right i don't have to know the women i don't have to know the kids i don't have to know the story that takes a [ __ ] sniper to do to do because there's there's always peace i say it all the time with y'all this piece nobody talks about this person nobody's talking about that person it's off blogs it's private who the [ __ ] knows how it's being done but only a sniper can pull that off because we see other people [ __ ] and it don't go that way yeah yeah i see it it'll play out on on all your little blog sites every five minutes we see it so i was i mean you know every time the topic come up i was one of the ones i said i looked at it as a little i said it could have been selfish yeah i'm definitely going to hurt it definitely definitely but um again you know we don't know the inner workings and hey look that shit's working for you i think again it goes and i and i've watched joe speak uh a lot about this when his own life when when you go within and you start to understand and you embrace your flaws if you know you're a selfish individual if you know you have problems with ego if you know that and and you're doing the work then anyone that steps into your world and steps into your life they know what they're stepping into and i don't approach any of this from a place of malice i don't approach any of this from a place of i there once was a time in my life was i want to be that [ __ ] i want to be you know i'm out here star [ __ ] i'm out here trying to get all the bet like that was that was part of becoming the young sniper but once you get to a point where you're like oh this is this is toxic this is a space where i'm what am i really trying to accomplish out of life if i am trying to be the best father in a very unorthodox scenario i got to step back and acknowledge my flaws my kids are going to have questions my kids are going to try to figure this out they already are going to get the energy of people bringing low frequencies saying oh your dad is this and your dad is that so i can't be nothing but transparent i can't be nothing but vulnerable so in that scenario every woman that's involved with me knows that this is definitely a partnership and this is going like there's healing that still has to occur here but if we could do it together and i can provide you a lifestyle that is going to be even amidst what the outside says that you are going to be not only comfortable but you're going to be content and you're going to get to a space where you can also do this for yourself and for our kids even if i wasn't in the scenario why wouldn't one choose that that's what i was saying that was this point that's what i said we discussed it a few times on the show and that was my stance ladies and gentlemen his name is nick cannon it's him he don't have no his name is him you don't have time to sit here with us [ __ ] wrong with y'all stop talking round of applause download the mixtape get the project when it comes out listen you still claim gigolo i think i got to i'm still claiming up in the club yeah i mean oh we can have that conversation another time but you know again that's it the man still is a musical genius he wrote it for me i ain't do nothing wrong ladies and gentlemen open invitation anytime you want to come sit here we thank you man we appreciate you you know how i feel about you this has been lovely refreshing i love you ladies and gentlemen all day sniper of snipers hey if i thought i was close to the list you know before you came out no you're not you're not you know hey hey how far are y'all for those of you don't tell me about it i'm not what y'all i never want to talk to the candidate i do i know it felt like such a and again we just talked about the service [ __ ] that [ __ ] be getting deep yeah paul's we would add another 30 40 minutes to an hour with him no that would have been revolutionary yeah how much [ __ ] he hit in a matter of an hour with a heart out he had to go he had he would have loved this yeah he got some [ __ ] off yeah and he did he did that shout out to nick man congratulations on everything uh what a guy what a guy yeah he was talking yeah he was talking um we need to celebrate the the knicks yeah we do no he we really as a just in the culture period yeah he's talking he doesn't get his top five he doesn't get his just due it's the same thing i just said earlier about kevin lowe's talking and the people that need to be talking that's true i agree with that we need to hear nick talk yeah like to people just like not good day in new york like to just be people no to us no but what i'm saying is like not us here but i'm just saying hip hop culture in general you need to respect him more so that when he talks you listen you're like you can't respect him they don't even know they don't know it's playing i want to get to the the salacious [ __ ] you know what i'm saying that it's not just that don't know like even i just told ish outside when this episode goes out tomorrow there's gonna be a lot that he touched on that he didn't really touch on but it did that people just don't know the brevity of it am i using everyone right yeah like that they not he'd said a lot of [ __ ] that spanned for over 20 years just about business acumen business savvy [ __ ] relationships networking uh friend group like he went well he dropped so much game in an hour that if you're not paying attention you'll miss it and that's why i get mad as i'm sitting there with my mom watching daytime talk show tv and they bring these great minds out to talk about hot topics and i said i look at my mind like yo what are you doing but i understand the demo that you're targeting yeah but we need something different from this yo i'm my mom it's only time for it to go and i'm getting sad i'll be honest i'm getting sad she's gonna move also i mean let corey and ish tell it look horn is telling her crib is done she just but that the conversations you have with your parents while you're an adult i wish i could live with my parents while you are an adult man you know very very i think about that a lot too like my grandparents rest in peace you know what i mean it's like damn i wish i could talk to them now you feel me it's different it's different i get so much gain my grandfather alone he's uh he turns 81 next week and me and him just sitting kicking and he it's like even though the world is different yeah the game he gives you still applause that's general knowledge and like i take like anything i go to him yeah my grandparents i was a teenager so i never really got to experience their knowledge as an adult sure but you should but y'all not living together shouldn't stop talking about my grandparents but my parents i still when i go see them and i want to talk we talk all the time on the phone and text and all that so i still get that but i missed that with my grandparents which i think it's like a different level you know like world war ii depression [ __ ] you know funny thing the fun i have with my mom on these topics you're absolutely right if my grandparents were alive while i was 40 years old absolutely buddy it would get real real man man they saw a whole different world my name what so to hear them [ __ ] it's it's it's amazing like i remember my grandfather passed and we're going through his house he had like boxes with [ __ ] they would be labeled and should be like string too short to use but they grew up in the depression like they would save oh so they said everything everything just in case and then they went through world war ii which was we're saving all this rubber bands and all types of [ __ ] for the war effort like and to have these conversations down would be priceless it's fun it is fun yeah i go to my mom's room the other morning i go to turn the news on well in my room i turn the news on we both watch news in the morning i watch the news i turn it on in my room it's five in the morning at six in the morning they bleeding me to death with the london ceremony for the jubilee i don't want to mispronounce it for the for the royal family over there they they do something every year i'm ignorant so i don't know what it is and i immediately turn i'm like yo dawg why are you not showing me the murders in the bronx why are you giving me what's going on over there cool i go this in my mom's room she's got the news on same [ __ ] and she's like oh the queen the royal fan oh this is so beautiful can i say why you care about this and she said oh it's the royal family and i said you're the generation yo but and so then trey's generation no way let's not let's brag on them some more help y'all believed anything yo anything they put on the tv the news hey why you love them because or why that though we in the white house let's get it information came from the news and they swear by the news they get the next the bible it was the facts i said my uh how'd you have k died she said they killed him i said she said someone said yo i'm dropped by they was doing [ __ ] right in front of y'all right before your eyes yeah yo it's nothing to watch i'm not gonna believe a [ __ ] thing yeah so we like if we if like the older i get the more they don't sound right fam everything i'm going to just had no conversation last night i was talking to somebody and i said yo subject the bible came up oh what the hell man and i just said yo is it me or is it the older i get it the more this [ __ ] look like some [ __ ] like like you know is it me [ __ ] right i don't want it y'all money i don't want it i'm cool come on the [ __ ] is the bible another book i never read no you gotta read that that's some of the best [ __ ] in the world i don't know then you get mad like y'all believe this like this worked i could write one of these that [ __ ] is successful get one of these off if this worked i could get one by far i might need to start me some [ __ ] and this is why thousands of years of popularity but this is why i'd be wanting to cut my brain off i'm watching the final [ __ ] bigger than thrilling the guitarist [ __ ] go out there and he absolutely absolutely smokes the star spangled band that dude yo i know some people thought he went a little too crazy as a guitar lover that wasn't jimmy jimmy hendrix's day oh then y'all missed the top of it but they brought a guitarist out there i don't remember his name but he smoked that [ __ ] right and for some reason that put me back in the auditorium of school that's his name doing like uh neil shone from journey don't stop believing after that because i don't be knowing the journey dudes by face they like football players if you invent thorium don't stop believing during the star singles man that [ __ ] would have been might work but when he was smoking that [ __ ] as an instrumentalist i was doing like the words of the song i was like yo i went to that i went to i pledge allegiance to the flag i think it's like the second and third verses we couldn't go outside without memorizing pledging to something who the [ __ ] are y'all [ __ ] i'll pledge to none of this yeah the whole class well the black people's uh version of that was what's the other song don't lift everything up yeah you know we don't know well we know i should live there before and in our [ __ ] we're not forcing you to pledge to something like churchill church like hillsong church hell [ __ ] there's always one no trigger-ish man you're jealous because he half-whales i'm half-wife they believe that you are they they should mix look at your eyes no i ain't mixed i ain't even know he had no minds when the cannon was sitting here and they got little eyes was humble might me too i regret asking him about the sniper list yeah not me i would have preferred to just keep him with the drakes and uh he made sense he was so humble in it i mean everyone mentions drake but but those guys that's pretty cute but for me those guys you really can't be called a sniper because yeah they [ __ ] the ugliest tonight that's what nobody knows the snipers were there you're just dead that's what he said basically they're [ __ ] ain't snipers they just they just running in there they regular shooters hey podcast audience all i have is a song to offer you that you may have never heard i don't know um any uh the finals the finals i went to sleep in quarter numbers three i'm saying i thought it was over i thought you were doing yourself a disservice ma'am i woke up and said huh shout out to boston man you did yourself a disservice shout out to boston why because they did what they did yeah i don't feel like doing this with you nothing to do so why would you not give boston a props no i will give this variation of the celtics their pride shout out boston what do you mean this variation josh is leaning on his new york boston haters oh oh got you okay i'm not y'all can yo i don't lose in this let me let me speak my piece in 40 seconds and y'all can give y'alls uh brief synopsis on this uh cause we out of here i don't lose in this i want tatum to get a ring i want the warriors to get a ring no you're losing as a nick fan how because you came if if golden state wins you're going to come in here oh i told you to order back there yeah like you look like oh yeah i caught two spots i don't care about this no no you can't you do care i would like to do it but is that important the grand scheme for me no and the grand scheme is i say it all the time i like to see greatness so i'm rooting to see a dynasty one and two [ __ ] um for the warriors like as a nick fan because my perspective is different from yours i think ish has like sports elitism complex he's a laker fan and a cowboy fan right um i can't speak for ice [ __ ] but from as a knick fan steelers fan and sixers here that's what my girl is she's like not from weird and she's like yo did the salsa in that game last night because she heard me i was like [ __ ] [ __ ] and i was like well yeah day one yo she grew up in new jersey and went to pa for all sports did he yeah he's a sixers fan in a steelers face so oh yeah well he tried to live out there with a woman he came back and started [ __ ] jealous [ __ ] matters better than lancaster but listen that's the softball uh minor league baseball team excuse me absolutely union union free tickets yes yeah yeah yeah i'll be trying to get us somewhere and then y'all will come in to talk about the little league team and yeah so y'all go ahead i don't know about the pencil slingers who are you all talking about right now i was at the games anyway i think ish has sports fan elitism he does uh but as a knick fan i like being an undercover warriors fan not just because their players are great i think the organization has ran well and that feels good as a sports fan i ain't gonna hold you it does uh so if they win great but if tatum wins i'm gonna throw a party if marcus smart get a ram i'm throwing a party if the black coach get a ring jb year one i'm throwing party i do not think that will happen i do not think that will happen you think boston won the court so yeah i know you don't got a bite all right i don't have the celtics winning but if they do i ain't coming in here mad did all the black a black celtics team won adult me like the old like duke i like the celtics the jazz a little bit like all the teams that was like come on yo come on yo once the ron williams got jerry sloane out of there to get some black players like all right i can [ __ ] with y'all a little bit so that's me listen uh i went to bed in quarter three uh the celtics went crazy in the fourth quarter uh i do think that if the celtics win that is an indictment on wardell's resume that he did not close you do not start out i thought he would close that game with 23s no you know what happened he had to play d and he got three coaching coaching he got three fouls coaching i was cursing keeb out keebs said he wouldn't be shocked if the celtics swept the warriors and i cursed him out right listen you can say what you want yo i'm not gonna hold you now i saw a lot of talk [ __ ] was talking yeah the warriors is trump in this series [ __ ] i saw a lot of times i was listening uh uh derek white can ball out like that consistently it's gonna be very good they were saying boston's defense is gonna [ __ ] them up they don't people i've seen talk like they don't stand a chance and i'm like are we talking about the same warriors tell people to shut up when i fell asleep i thought that the warriors would win but i did say to myself tatum ain't went off yet and that's a little scared mm-hmm that's absolutely scary he played terrible score but he he facilitated the offense how many assists he had i think he had double digit assist yo before i give the uh the ending of my analysis and toss to you guys can i bring it back to the sniper list really quickly sure because i like to just highlight undercover snipers i don't care if they're married with kids just [ __ ] you would have to deal with in sniper land and al horford is one of them for me hey boy really ten thousand percent al horford speaks seven languages he's six foot ten he's beautiful he plays well he's got all the money because he's been there forever if you were in the club and y'all were at it the same at the same time he's married so he shouldn't be in this but if y'all were at it at the same time guess what buddy you have to deal with al horford now and that's the name that just you wouldn't think you have i like to go to those names because you just bump into these [ __ ] sometimes al horford for his [ __ ] birthday went off again and i agree with draymond yo they asked him what happened in the post in the post game he said white horford and dude went 15 of 21 smart went 15 to 21 from three that's it don't talk to me no more now i'm done i still have warriors in six not seven the floor is yours i can see it going to seven i can see it going to seven meters me too i still got the warriors coming out of this and wait all of y'all were right that i spoke to once they started once the ref started letting them play it's bad benefits of boston yeah it was bad no it ain't that's they can't stop him steph was just getting shots everybody else got to show up lice was bright for jordan pool i hang on a lot of you lights was bright for jordan it's bright lights bright lights nah steph i don't care if they hunt him if the rest of them [ __ ] show up right exactly yeah hey i gave you 30 points scored at one y'all yeah win it now i'm done the problem with this is steph can't hide on defense he can't hide because honestly they was getting the [ __ ] pick and roll with him and jayson tatum and tatum just was missing dave's jason that don't matter because everybody else that don't make it at that clip regularly did i know and if i'm golden state i'm cool with betting that marcus smart is not gonna go uh i'm not doing that white but white make mad big shout out but white has always made those shots marcus smart making some of them it was fadeaway baseline threes some of them for marcus smart i was like oh [ __ ] all right they're wilding out huh the boston is i watched the whole game i watched the whole game dawg well about halfway through uh hover kicked in nah jb kicked in yo jb started bringing him back and when he started doing that everybody else got ignited boston was rushing a bunch of shots early and they when they calmed down yo and jb started penetrating and kicking in the early fourth quarter it was over part of the reason why i give golden state this dub and then we'll get to sleepers is coaching i told keeb that coaching should play a part in game one and which is why i had golden state winning game one but i had it reversed golden state does try to get cute and if they're gonna try to get cute and sleep on you a little bit it might be game one i think game two will see the coaching don't lock him in coaching i i'm only talking about steve carter now no i'm saying i just we will see great coaching changes from steve kerr and they will win game two what adjustments can he make al horford won't do that again it's like that not wide open you'll have to be contested i can't lose hanging out in the post while he was out there banging you can contest three yeah you can you don't have to just four of them was wide open for them uh draymond was dropping back instead of pushing forward on the pick-and-roll that don't have to be the case hey we'll take him it don't we'll take a loss but you have to make it with a hand in your face stop it [ __ ] you've just turned 49. that's wrong do it do it six more games do it six more games it was your birthday your kid is here your first final game you did it you did it you did it alright do it three more games that's cool and if they win i'm gonna come in here and big up every black player in the celtics and the coach and the along yeah as you should yeah i ain't they already they already get accolades from being that far at the midway point them [ __ ] was in the negative they had a losing record what salute well yeah you gotta shoot yes braun is a billionaire round of applause who didn't know that [Music] somehow with the click of a button i move the applause to the fairy sound and vice versa we'll fix that absolute easy um yeah shout out to lebron he's a billionaire without any of it coming from a r and you weak [ __ ] albums so that should be applauded and i don't think he ain't finished neither finish nigga's 10 years old he ain't getting started yeah yeah no he didn't before he closed out we we have a couple um recipes rest in peace yes rest in peace mary and barbara that hurt my soul yeah we got more uh dave smith uh he invented midi yeah amongst other things brilliant synthesizers yeah but well i show you here on yes oh seven o'shea's album he invented all himself but to do that in the 70s right and a lot of my favorite people today like pay tribute pay tribute uh and just blaze for one mm-hmm was like yo in the 70s to make all the machines that people use communicate with each other like that was the only line i needed to hear about this gentleman yeah so like when you see a producer show up somewhere he's got a laptop and a little keyboard and he just plugs it into it he's controlling that [ __ ] that was dave smith invented it and that's ridiculous yeah in the seven see more names see that's what i mean like more people should know that name to the earlier point about what the dude the director dude was saying about what the [ __ ] is happening in hollywood with the movies and just the culture of it like that's culture to me yeah yeah it is it is culture oh yeah um also rest in peace to leo goff he was a engineer um worked very closely with yogaty and his entire camp oh all the mixing and everything yeah he passed away as well over there rest in peace recipes to masterpiece daughter tatiana miller oh yeah yeah that one yeah it's just been a lot going on um i saw they putting uh john madden on the cover madden this year with i think it's dope and kind of in the same vein of rest in peace yes yeah true rest in peace john madden um and big ol got a street name for him in new york long overdue who does big l really yeah yes did i see remy had something too in the bronx i believe she goes too yeah yeah i saw that they were doing something and uh she she unveiled her street name i'm off of my uh finals takes but what i will say is jeff van gundy was severely missed on the commentator commentator tip severely missed by me i i almost wanted him he should have been home and at least the living room commentating like that that he needed to be there he and mark jackson got uh chemistry he and mark jackson bounce off each other they crack on each other they do all of that they just got a friendship and a chemistry that is hard to just and him and mike breen like like they put he'd be with the goats you know like um commentate in these games and we'll get out here we'll talk on patreon but commentating these games is that's not easy it's art this is art talking period but again even with that the chemistry that doris burke shout out to her doris burke hubie hubie qb at 89 years old he's 18 uh he's oh he's 89 years old i mean that's off the top he might be 87 but he knows basketball like the back of his hand though we got to get that while we can get it right like when dick vitell went down for a little bit with his health college ball missed out and we missed out yeah and then he came back and it was yeah i mean we we need that we need that um um rest in peace to uh the kid jeff gladney not familiar from the vikings he passed away him and his girl yes when this girl passed away that one i want to get into some more on patreon with the drive-in and thank god that the other car that they hit was completely safe and sound uh that young woman people were familiar with her from instagram really yeah yeah yeah no her last insta story was them in a vehicle his last stories were there were them outside turning up having a good time uh there's been no toxicology yet so i won't speak on it but thank god that the other car was okay right right so that's important yo again i say here all the time some of you all think it's the outro life is a series of moments it's not outro i don't say it just to say it even though it might sound cool but it's a series of moments and moments pass so let's appreciate these shits while they're here let's love the people that we love to be around let's avoid the people that we hate to be around let's cherish our family let's just make the phone calls we need to make yeah i mean that's important to me i think about [ __ ] like that you're right you never know you never know you never know you just don't know so you want to live like that uh keep us in your prayers lord knows we need to be there until the next time we bid you would do farewell adios sariva derchi hasta lavista rvoi so long goodbye peace 100 all of that good stuff last but certainly not least the baddies are insecure the stagnant women want to travel and i will take them that game that game ain't leaving no time so and the closed-minded women want you to teach them things grab a tylenol you might get a headache or a migraine sometime soon uh shout out to all the creators the podcasters out there nori uh i know he's been texting me i don't know if it's smoke if it's love i mean he got something dropping no norrie's kicking ass gilly's kicking ass people are kicking ass out there yo and i love to see it man shout out to everybody out there doing what they got to do to get by amazing what we can do when we are well rested this was amazing gentlemen salute to each of you salute to each of you this was phenomenal uh and i'm gone man y'all hold it down i don't know what the weather is this weekend i'll be with my baby i'll be with my youngest i'll be in the house just taking a sabbatical cause you did a lot you did a lot joe budden with your little hot ass this week you did a lot you did a lot you did a lot i mean i'm sure other people here did a lot too but won't talk about it on there i did a lot i did like a lot nah just me and 21 savage how many points you went to a lotties no i didn't how am i doing how many people you met a lot don't worry about it yeah i love isho you're my guy button i know we out of here man i love y'all y'all hold it down keep love around you continue to uh operate at a high frequency high vibrations only thank you to nick cannon and shout out to him salute to him that was awesome and i'm not just saying that super inspirational yo oh seven o'shake aaron rape we love y'all post malone i'll wait four years for you to get it right we outta here [Music] [Laughter] daddy

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Published: Sun Jun 05 2022