They Ran the Most Ingenious $200 Million Psychic Con

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Millions Scammed "I'm already thinking   what I would do with all this money,"  one victim wrote in a letter response   to psychic Marie Duval. "My wife would not  have to work anymore and would drive a newer   car.” The letter continued. “We could  install air conditioning in our house." At the bottom of the letter, the victim wrote,   "I forgot! A good amount of this  money would go to the bank." This is an example of the response that someone  would write after receiving a letter from Marie   Duval. Her name and face was at the front and  center of probably the biggest scam involving the   most people ever. This psychic scam has scammed  money from millions of people around the world. Investigators found out that  this scam has made more than $200   million dollars from victims in  just the US and Canada alone. Just who was the real mastermind behind this  massive scam? Did the psychic Marie Duval   even exist? Just how did  this scam run for decades? A Simple Letter A typical unsuspecting   victim would receive a letter in the  mail. To them, it looked like a personal,   handwritten letter. What a lot of  people that replied would have in common   was desperation. Most of the time, they’re  elderly people suffering from debilitating   illnesses. Sometimes they’re people in debt  struggling to get their life back together. The scam is as simple as it gets. Millions of  people would receive letters that made a bold   claim. It promised them that a French psychic  named Marie Duval had the secrets to turn their   lives around. And all they need to do is send  in money, often around $40 bucks, for her help. Of course, most people just threw away the  letters. But for those people who were vulnerable,   it was a different story. The massive  success is because of the letters’ ability   to take advantage of emotionally and  financially vulnerable people. To them,   the letter looks like it was specifically  written to them, and them alone. Purchased Lists The scammers zeroed   in on potential victims by buying lists of  targeted demographics from data brokers that   sell this information. The list contained many  personal details, such as names, addresses,   birthdates. And scammers can easily deduce  other likely personal details from this data. Sometimes they also place ads in  newspapers disguised as a research study,   and promise participants that they could end up  winning money in a sweepstake. They’ll ask readers   very specific personal questions, such as for  their time of birth or their favorite tv shows.   And because the scammers would turn around and  use this information on the very person they’re   surveying in the letters they send, it’ll look  as if a real psychic HAS written them a letter. This is what was brilliant about the  scam. Having that information increased   the amount of correspondence. These letters would  sometimes appear to be from well-known psychics.   Marie Duval is the most popular psychic used.  Patrick Guerin was another psychic who was   supposedly writing the personalized letter. But  of course, the scammers were just sending nearly   identical letters with personal details swapped  out to tens of thousands of people each week. Repeated Letters So when one of   their victims would actually reply to one letter,   the scammer would send even more letters asking  for more money. The money was supposed to be for   supposedly “unique and supernatural objects” and  “personalized astrological services and studies”. But obviously the objects were just  cheap, mass produced plastic ornaments.   People were at least still getting SOMEthing  for their money sometimes in this scam. As   for the astrological studies, they were  just completely ignored. In some replies,   Marie would go ahead and introduce her  psychic friend Patrick, who would then   send his own letters offering even more  good fortune and seeking even more money. And a lot of letters would then ask  for more personal information along   with the payments of course.  And some targeted people would   even get requests such as photos of  themselves or even locks of hair. According to a deep investigation by CNN,   tens of thousands of letters were sent out  per month. It adds up to millions of letters   per year in the U.S. alone. Some of the letters  included such things as fake coffee cup stains and   little notes written on the side  to make them look more realistic! The Search for Marie Duval So who WAS Marie Duval? Was   she actually a real person? Some people  speculated that she was a made up person,   while other people were adamant that she was  completely real and enjoying her retirement in   the South of France. Other people were absolutely  convinced she was the mastermind of the scam. Was she actually part of the giant scam? Even  the U.S. government hasn't been able to track   her down. Government officials typically  struggle with international cases because   they don’t have jurisdiction outside  their borders, rendering them powerless. The International Consumer Protection and  Enforcement Network described Duval as a quote,   "probably fictitious" character. Organization  officials led an effort to shut down her ads   and letters in nine countries. No one  seemed to know where Marie Duval was. However, a couple of journalists claimed to  have actually interviewed her. An Australian   radio station supposedly interviewed Duval back  in early 2000. They didn’t ask any questions with   the scam accusations that surrounded her.  Instead, Duval spent the roughly 15-minute   interview simply talking up using her supposed  psychic abilities in an effort to help people. CNN reported that Belgian journalist  Jan Vanlangendonck interviewed a woman   claiming to be Marie Duval asking some  more demanding questions. According to him,   she admitted that she didn't sign the  letters herself but defended the business. Letter Operation Who was it that was   actually sending the letters? There’s  no way the scam was the work of just   one person with the massive volume of letters  involved. Back in 2014, the US government had   enough. They were tired of Americans getting  scammed by some psychic named Marie Duval. The Department of Justice filed a lawsuit  against her looking to stop the mail   operations. They also named Patrick Guerin  in the lawsuit. Investigators found that the   letters originated from a small Canadian  company called Infogest Direct Marketing. Shell Companies What Infogest would do   was send large batches of letters all over  the US and Canada before they actually   individually mailed out letters to  their targets. This was an obvious   attempt to evade authorities who had  tried to shut down the letters before. For example, this was the path for one  particular batch of letters. Infogest   would first contract out a company to print  the letters. The letters then were shipped   across the Canadian border by the same hired  company to Albany, New York. And that’s where the   letters were mailed out individually in batches  of as many as 50,000 thousand letters at a time. When people would write a reply, the responses  were sent to a US or Canadian address. However,   the addresses were just to commercial mailboxes   run by a Hong Kong-based company  called Destiny Research Center. At the mailbox locations, the response  letters were bundled and sent to a completely   different company called Data  Marketing Group in Long Island,   New York. This company was in charge of  processing payments. And they directed   ANOTHER company to send out the cheap ornaments  that people sent payments for. As you can tell,   there were plenty of companies used to run the  operation! However, most likely these companies   were probably just shell companies that were  all owned by the same group of individuals. While the payments were small, with the sheer  number of people, the total amount of money   added up to millions of dollars. Data  Marketing Group allegedly processed as   much as $500,000 thousand dollars every two weeks! What about the personal responses and  personal items people would send? According   to the department of justice, the company  simply just threw it away. And the people   that sent responses were then marked off in a  database to be sent new letters again asking   for more money. The creators of this scam  were looking for repeat lifetime victims! Cease and Desist In late 2014,   the Department of Justice shut down the ability  to send letters by both Data Marketing Group   and Infogest Direct Marketing. After  6 long years, the US Government was   finally able to extradite a Canadian man  named Patrice Runner from Spain in 2020. Runner was charged by the Department of  Justice with 18 counts of mail and wire fraud,   conspiracy to commit mail and wire  fraud, and conspiracy to commit   money laundering. They accused him of  being the mastermind of a decades-long   psychic mail fraud scheme from 1994  all the way until November 2014. The US government was able to locate and charge  two of Runner’s co-conspirators Maria Thanos   and Philip Lett in 2018. They pleaded guilty in  June of 2018 of conspiracy to commit mail fraud. Runner was able to use a series of shell companies  to hide his personal involvement in the scam.   He was actually indicted earlier in October 2018,  and he was arrested in Ibiza in April of 2019. The government was able to return more  than $200,000 thousand dollars worth   of cash and money order payments sent  in by nearly 6,000 victims. These were   the recovered envelopes with funds that  had yet to be processed by the scammers. Of course, the vast majority of victims  haven't received any money back.   And even if more money is recovered,  it’ll be extremely difficult to figure   out how to distribute the money  properly to the people scammed. But all this doesn’t answer whether  or not Marie Duval was involved. Or   if she even is a real person! True Identity Surprisingly,   Marie Duval IS a real person, as found out by  CNN in their investigation behind the scams.   And she WAS a renowned psychic.  But is she the real mastermind?  Marie Duval’s real name is Maria Carolina  Gamba. Duval was the name she picked up from   her second marriage. She was able to build  a growing reputation as a psychic throughout   the 1970s and 1980s while doing consultations  and writing horoscopes in newspaper columns. Was Duval actually the mastermind? Supposedly,  according to Marie’s sister, it was in the mid 90s   when Marie sold the rights to the  name she had created for herself,   “Maria Duval''. She entered into  a contract with a group of people   who was supposed to use her name to  promote the sale of astrology charts. And her sister claimed that anything that happened  afterwards, didn’t have anything to do with her.   But apparently, the people behind the  operation changed the business model.   And that’s when all the letters in her name  began. And the people who were in on the scam,   sold off the scam to other scammers. Patrice  Runner wasn’t the original scammer who ran the   Marie Duval psychic scheme. And because the  scammers kept on selling off the business,   it was one major factor why the scam  was able to keep going for so long. Questionable Involvement CNN was able to track down Marie Duval’s son.   He claimed that his mother was very upset about  the letters, but there was nothing that she could   do since she signed away her name. But what  about the times when she defended the letters?   He said she had signed non-disclosure agreements  that prevented her from disparaging the business   in any way. And she wasn’t able to use her  Marie Duval name to do business anymore. But still, she received royalties and payments  from the scam. And that was the money she had   lived on. Filed business records show that she  had been the sole shareholder of a Swiss company   called Astroforce. And in 2008, Duval had  received nearly $200,000 thousand dollars   when the company dissolved in the same  year. This was concrete clear evidence   that she had been directly or at the very  least indirectly involved with the letters. Was Marie Duval actually actively involved  in this giant scam that involved millions   of people? Or was she actually a victim  from the real masterminds of the scam,   and forced into accepting the dirty money? Here’s what’s next!
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Published: Fri May 14 2021
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