Translator: Luis Javier Salvador
Reviewer: Elisabeth Buffard You know, my favorite part of being a dad is the movies I get to watch. I love sharing my favorite movies with my kids and when my daughter was four,
we got to watch "The Wizard of Oz" together. Totally dominated her imagination for months. Her favorite character was Glinda, of course. Gave a great excuse to wear
a sparkly dress and carry a wand. You know, you watch a movie enough times and you start to realize how unusual it is. Now, we live today and are raising our children in a kind of children's fantasy
spectacular industrial complex. But "The Wizard of Oz" stood alone,
it did not start that trend. Forty years later was
when the trend really caught on with, interestingly, another movie
that featured a metal guy and a furry guy rescuing a girl by dressing up
as the enemy's guards. (Laughter) Do you know what I'm talking about? (Laughter) Now, there's a big difference
between these two movies, a couple of really big differences
between "The Wizard of Oz" and all the movies we watch today. One is there's very little violence
in "The Wizard of Oz". The monkeys are rather aggressive
as are the apple trees. But I think if "The Wizard of Oz"
were made today, the wizard would say, "Dorothy, you are the savior of Oz
that the prophecy foretold. Use your magic slippers to defeat the computer-generated armies
of the Wicked Witch." That's not how it happens. Another thing that is really unique
about "The Wizard of Oz" to me is that all of the most heroic and wise
and even villainous characters are female. Now, I started to notice this when I actually showed "Star Wars"
to my daughter, which was years later
and the situation was different. At that point, I also had a son. He was only 3 at the time. He was not invited to the screening.
He's too young for that. But he was a second child and the level
of supervision had plummeted. (Laughter) So, he wandered in and it imprinted on him
like a mommy duck does to its duckling. Is he picking up on the fact that
there are only boys in the universe, except for Aunt Beru and, of course,
this princess who is really cool but who kind of waits around
through most of the movie so that she can award the hero with a medal and a wink to thank him
for saving the universe, which he does by the magic
that he was born with. Compare this to 1939 with "The Wizard of Oz". How does Dorothy win her movie? By making friends with everybody
and being a leader. That's kind of the world
I'd rather raise my kids in. Why is there so much force,
capital F Force, in the movies we have for our kids and so little Yellow Brick Road? I know from my own experience
that Princess Leia did not provide the adequate context that I could've used in navigating the adult world that is co-ed. (Laughter) You know, there was
a kind of first-kiss moment when I really expected
the credits to start rolling because that's the end of the movie, right? I finished my quest, I got the girl,
why are you still standing there? (Laughter) The movies are very, very focused
on defeating the villain and getting your reward
and there's not a lot of room for other relationships and other journeys. It's almost as though if you're a boy,
you are a dopey animal and if you are a girl,
you should bring your warrior costume. I mean, there are plenty of exceptions and I will defend the Disney princesses
in front of any of you. But they do send a message to boys.
The boys are not really the target audience. They're doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls how to defend against the patriarchy, but they're not necessarily showing boys how they're supposed to defend
against the patriarchy. There are no models for them. And we also have some terrific women
who are writing new stories for our kids. And as three-dimensional and delightful
as Hermione and Katniss are, these are still war movies. And, of course, the most
successful studio of all time continues to crank out
classic after classic, every single one of them about
the journey of a boy, or a man, or two men who are friends,
or a man and his son or two men who are raising a little girl. Until, as many of you are thinking, this year, when they finally came out with Brave. I recommend it to all of you.
It's on demand now. (Laughter) You remember what the critics said
when Brave came out? "Ahh, I can't believe Pixar
made a princess movie". Now, almost none of these movies
passed the Bechdel test. Alison Bechdel is a comic book artist
and back in the mid '80s she recorded this conversation
she'd had with a friend, about assessing the movies that they saw. It's very simple.
It's just three questions you should ask, Is there more than one character
in the movie that is female who has lines? So, try to meet that bar.
(Laughter) And do these women talk to each other
at any point in the movie? (Laughter) And is their conversation about
something other than the guy that they both like? (Laughter) Right? Thank you. (Applause) Thank you very much. Two women who exist and talk
to each other about stuff. It does happen. I've seen it. So, let's look at the numbers. 2011, the hundred most popular movies. How many of them do you think
actually have female protagonists? Eleven. But there is a number
that is greater than this, that's going to bring this room down. Last year, the New York Times published
a study that the government had done. Here's what it said. One out of five women in America say that they have been sexually assaulted
sometime in their lives. Now, I don't think that's the fault
of popular entertainment. I don't think kids' movies
have anything to do with that, but something is going wrong and when I hear that statistic, one of the things I think of is,
that's a lot of sexual assailants. Who are these guys?
What are they learning? What are they failing to learn? Are they absorbing the story
that a male hero's job is to defeat the villain with violence
and then collect the reward, which is a woman who has no friends
and doesn't speak? Are we soaking up that story? You know, as a parent with the privilege
of raising a daughter, like all of you who are doing the same thing, we find this world
and this statistic very alarming and we want to prepare them. We have tools at our disposal like girl power
and we hope that that will help. But I got to wonder, is girl power going
to protect them if at the same time, actively or passively, we are training
our sons to maintain their boy power? And I'm talking mainly to the dads here. I think we have got to show our sons
a new definition of manhood. Now, the definition of manhood
is already turning upside down. I mean, you've read about
how the new economy is changing the roles of
caregiver and wage earner. They are throwing it up in the air. So, our sons are going to have
to find some way of adapting to this new relationship with each other. And I think we really have
to show them and model for them how a real man is someone who trusts
his sisters and respects them, and wants to be on their team,
and stands up against the real bad guys, who are the men who want
to abuse the women. And I think our job in the Netflix queue
is to look out for those movies that passed the Bechdel test,
if we can find them, and to seek out the heroines,
who are there, who show real courage, who bring people together and nudge
our sons to identify with those heroines, and to say, "I want to be on their team", because they're going to be on their team. When I asked my daughter who her favorite
character was in "Star Wars", you know what she said? Obi-Wan. Obi-Wan Kenobi and Glinda. What do these two have in common? I think these are the two people in the movie
who know more than anybody else and they love sharing their knowledge with other people to help them
reach their potential. They're leaders. I like that kind of quest for my daughter, and I like that kind of quest for my son. I want more quests like that. I want fewer quests where my son is told,
"Go out and fight it alone" and more quests where he sees
that it's his job to join a team, maybe a team led by women, to help other people become better
and be better people, like "The Wizard of Oz". Thank you. (Applause)
Got to see this talk live. Really great. Standing ovation.
I always roll my eyes whenever I hear any variation on the phrase "I think we have to show our sons a new definition of manhood", like he says at 8:20. First off, and most importantly, you don't have to do shit to "be a man" except be male and turn 18 (or pick some other age if you want). Everyone agrees with this when applied to women.
This whole "who's a real man?" thing fits right in with traditional gender roles, which say (among other things) that women are these beautiful delicate flowers ("sugar and spice and everything nice"), who must be protected from the dangers of the world (and the corrupting influence of property and voting rights). And men are only valuable to the extent that they're useful, in particular the title of being "a man" is something you earn, not something you get by birthright. Often that use is protecting the women and children (a grouping that fits right in with said gender roles).
Second, listen to what he says, specifically, a real man is:
This is a bad definition. A "real man" (to the extent that's a thing) is defined only by his relationship with women and nothing else? And who identifies "bad guys" as being other men? If you're gonna have a definition, it oughta be about one's self, not about living for others. Perhaps this isn't his whole definition, but these "real man" definitions always have this characteristic, where being a "real man" is what can you do for others.
One thing he sort of gets at earlier which sounds right to me, is that there's 2 archetypes of male characters you see. The goofball and the warrior (and I'd add Homer Simpson-style slob to the "goofball" category). There's a gap between those two, which is where a good role model oughta be. Especially considering of those two archetypes, one is totally inaccessible to the average person, and one isn't something you wanna be (I'd add a third archetype, which is someone like Don Draper or Walter White, the guy who's really talented and good at something, but also really fucked up and has massive flaws, but I guess this doesn't apply to kids movies).
Blergh. He had a few great points and I agree with the general idea of what he's saying, but it was so mixed up that it ruined the entire talk for me.
He started strongly, talking about his son and The Wizard of Oz and Dorothy as a non-violent(ish) protagonist, but then he gendered everything and it went down hill from there.
"They are doing a phenomenal job of teaching girls...We don't show boys how to defend against the patriarchy, there are no models for them." This is still one of the main problems in our general perceptions of media. A movie with a male protagonist is just a movie, but a movie with a female protagonist is a chick-flick. Why can't his son learn bravery from Katniss Everdeen? Because she's a girl?
He goes on to wonderfully site the Bechdel test, but then cherry picks his examples of 'warrior women' and 'dopey animal men'. Yes the male cartoon animals that you're showing are bumbling and stupid in kids movies. All the sexy girls in armor that you are showing are adult movies. What do the women look like in the cartoons? What do the men look like in the adult movies? Didn't you just say that only 11 out of the top 100 movies in the past year had female protagonists? I'm sick of the 'girls can only learn from girls, boys can only learn from boys mentality.'
There were other things that irked me: "I will defend the Disney Princesses to any of you." "We must model for them a real man." etc
I'm glad we're having the conversation, but it seems like his steps are adding to the problem.
Ugh. It pissed me off at the end, I had to turn it off.
That was so right. We have a negative culture here, and we need to change it.
While I like his entire message, I'm not quite sure about his inclusion of Princess Leia. I might be biased, but she was my childhood hero, and I loved that here in this big action-y movie that she had a blaster and was a leader. I mean, I understand what he was saying, but I feel like there are better examples of the damsel in distress trope than Leia. (though yeah, the whole "there are no female pilots!" thing bugs me, too).