when it's time to be lazy, he's way lazier than I am Today marks a glorious day for Liza after 20 years in the news industry conducting interviews with two legendary figures in the Asian and even global entertainment industry I've waited two decades and the two of you have also waited for 20 years to collaborate again. From the first time in "Duke of Mount Deer" to "Infernal Affairs" and now this film (The Goldfinger) you've known each other for 40 years In these 40 years every cooperation how would you describe the feelings each time you reunite? It feels like meeting an... old friend after a long time haven't seen each other for a while, and suddenly you meet again there's a... special sense of familiarity even though you haven't seen each other for a long time, do you still... - share a strong understanding?
- Yes, we rarely had... - Rarely. the chance to meet in person. We each have our own busy lives we might run into each other at award ceremonies That's right, but it doesn't necessarily mean (there's an opportunity to catch up) Oh, really... So, looking back at each other's growth throughout the years, do you feel a different emotion every time you collaborate? Every time, I feel, I feel that very... very different becoming more mature, whether in life experiences or acting skills, there are changes Actually... the feeling is quite similar. Because, I... besides being good friends, I (feel) a sense of family (towards him) Yes, he's like family Sometimes, I might not meet my younger brother often too But every time we meet I don't know why there's this indescribable "bond" or a kind of warmth Throughout the performances, I've seen it Tony excels in different fields and genres... he often says I'm good at action scenes, but I see him doing them impressively too! In terms of performance, in every role, he brings a new and different acting approach or another layer But he never loses his original intrinsic soul So, I've consistently seen him growing getting better and better Looking back over the 20 years,
what do you think is the most significant growth in Tony? I think he has become more adept at enjoying his own time and space When he... should... When it's time to work hard, he works harder than me when it's time to be lazy, he's way lazier than I am Yes, because he understands life very well,
and that's something I need to learn Do you (Tony) agree with that? When I'm lazy, I'm really lazy How lazy are you? Extremely! It's been two years since my last film I have been out of work for two years ...? But we frequently see your movies But my last movie (Shang-Chi) was already two years ago I took a break for two years suddenly didn't want to work So, two years later, you returned for "the Goldfinger" - Come back to work
- yes, yes, yes No wonder today you still feel like - you want to continue your vacation
- Very tired What do you think of Andy's growth especially since you mentioned he's best at fighting Actually, now many action scenes Tony, you are also good at fighting but your fights mostly involve special effects and CGI, right? In Hollywood films we've seen those effects in Shang-Chi Andy's fighting scenes, on the other hand are like the unique feature of Hong Kong movies... Mine are all fake Really? Yes, all CGI - No, not at all.
- Yours too? I don't believe it Andy, you're really the real deal No, no, no His skills are really excellent and he's very focused and hardworking Not only has he developed well as an actor but he also sings, produces films so his I find it incredible how he for me, is just unbelievable How can one person Be so versatile? Exactly, so versatile So successful in so many aspects Truly This you agree with this, right? No no this is just what good friends say Seeing that you've become so familiar with each other Especially Andy (Hua Tsai) just felt that He considers Tony a little brother do you ever feel that you have such great rapport during filming that you understand each other with just a glance conveys what the other person is about to say or do and then you can improvise on the spot I haven't specifically felt that but it might be because we're all very familiar with each other's rhythm which is why we work so well together It's not just about a glance it's the overall rhythm of acting Those seem to fit well together. It's like two pieces of music that fit together seamlessly So, which piece of music wouldn't sync with you? None, none at all I mean using music (metaphor) The villain! I'm going to be arrested by the police Speak to me politely Actually, it's similar to a seesaw It's like two people in opposition but if there's no rhythm between them or if the balance is off you don't balance well on this side you might end up losing or getting hurt here Lose balance And there could be accidents I think there needs to be a harmonious way of performing between two people Maybe in the middle, I might suddenly change After changing the rhythm, you will find You won’t notice during the performance It's only when you look back after it's really done, you think, 'Oh, I made a little mistake just now' But he completely compensated for my mistake So, do you two have such a tacit understanding that you cover each other's like moments of distraction He covers me more Not really (humble) but I think when we collaborate it should be complementary Can you give an example of a scene? Like in the past, why did 'Infernal Affairs' become a classic? There was that rooftop confrontation scene? which everyone considers a classic moment in film history But I feel that in 'the Goldfinger' this time there are many moments where the two of you create a tense atmosphere that kind of tightly wound tension In 'the Goldfinger,' it's truly well-executed surpassing even the iconic scene from 'Infernal Affairs' So, are there many moments like this where you both rely on your understanding of each other to present? I feel like there are many scenes... Especially the hospital, especially... I still remember there's a scene in the office where you were supposed to leave and you really... in the end, he told us Hey, that bump you did just now looked good Remember that bump into me? After we did it, it was done and the director thought it was great But when we tried to shoot it again we just couldn't recreate that feeling That's the one that bump was gone It was that feeling we had just now and it can only be achieved once - It's the most authentic feeling
- Yes Like that... it's not it's not something that needs special prearrangement - So, this is considered improvisation
- Yes And you have many scenes where you get very, very close When you're that close do you ever feel... (a sense of attraction) Like wanting to hug the other person or even give a kiss No way... - At that time, everyone was in the character's...
- Yeah - In the state of the character
- Oh, so internally, - it's a feeling of tension (slightly disappointed)
- Right Well, both of you, actually, have won many awards in the international film industry When collaborating with each other, we talked about the part where you have good chemistry But will there be any stressful part? Are there moments when you sense pressure? no pressure at all None at all? Totally confident, and perhaps it's a mutual trust Also, our goals are aligned in wanting to collaborate effectively and make the entire scene work Everyone's objectives are clear so there's no particular pressure Instead, it's about how we can help each other and ensure the scene meets the director's requirements Especially since the movie is set in the 1980s a time when both of you were among the most active in the entertainment industry During that period, your output might have been if not 50 films a year at least around 30 to 40 I don't know, maybe... When people see us during that period I don't know how Tony feels or what his process is like I had no sense of the social aspects of the '80s and '90s I was busy working - In acting?
- So, shooting this film made me realize there was something happening during that time So, you didn't hear about it during that time? Right, right, right So, during that time the '80s and '90s, I was so busy that basically, basically, I I didn't even know what was happening at home. Meaning you didn't invest in stocks No, I didn't So now you have the opportunity to look back - at the social history of your youth
- Yes it's like filling in some missing puzzle pieces That sounds nice It's like experiencing the past through making movies and reflecting on life So, Tony, what did you gain from it I was in a training camp during the '80s, and I realized at that time You must have been filming a massive number of movies then Yes, I was filming a lot just like Andy, making movies I think that period was quite vibrant So, was it tough during that time? Or did you actually enjoy the work around you? - It was quite challenging
- although maybe - Because it was also
- Economically challenging like we were just starting out as actors At that time, it was one film after another it almost felt quite challenging but it was also a fun era So, is there something that both of you Like Sir Liu in this movie have been pursuing for so many years? Being an actor Right, being an actor - the passion for this job
- Yes We can pursue it for many more years - Keep pursuing
- Hopefully Don't make the fans wait another twenty years, okay? Are you talking about me working with him yes It shouldn't be that long Don't make us wait for another twenty years I hope I can interview you two again next year - We hope so too
- We hope so too If we find a good project we'll definitely want to collaborate again soon Yes, remember to invite us Top movie picks when that happens Let Liza come interview you Before we wrap up, could both of you say hi to the Top movie picks' audience say hello and maybe encourage them to watch 'the Goldfinger'? You first Hello, dear viewers of Top Movie Picks. This time, I feel that my performance in 'the Goldfinger' is quite different from my previous roles a character with significant contrast I hope you'll enjoy it and that it brings a fresh experience to all of you good 'the Goldfinger' everyone, please go to the theaters to watch It's undoubtedly a Top Movie Picks for you Marvelous Thanks
