THIS IS NEW YORK CITY AND THIS IS "THE FIVE." THE VERDICT IN THE KYLE RITTENHOUSE DOUBLE MURDER TRIAL COULD COME AT ANY MOMENT. INSIDE THE COURTROOM A JURY IS DELIBERATING THE CHARGES AGAINST RITTENHOUSE. EARLIER TODAY, THE 18-YEAR-OLD RANDOMLY PICKED A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT WILL DECIDE HIS FATE. OUTSIDE PROTESTERS GATHER AND THE NATIONAL GUARD ON STAND BY AS LOCAL OFFICIALS CALL FOR CALM. THE KEY ISSUE, WAS RITTENHOUSE ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE OR DID HE INTEND TO KILL TWO PEOPLE AND WOUND ANOTHER? PROSECUTORS SAY HE'S A VIGILANTE AND EXPECTING VIOLENCE. >> EVERYBODY TAKES A BEATING SOMETIMES, RIGHT? SOMETIMES YOU GET IN A SCUFFLE AND MAYBE YOU DO GET HURT A LITTLE BIT. THAT DOESN'T MEAN YOU CAN START PLUGGING PEOPLE WITH YOUR FULL METAL JACKET AR-15. >> WHAT THE DEFENDANT WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IS BECAUSE HE'S THE ONE THAT BROUGHT THE GUN ESHGS HE GETS TO KILL. >> KYLE WAS A 17-YEAR-OLD KID OUT THERE TRYING TO HELP THIS COMMUNITY. THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY'S OFFICE IS MARCHING FORWARD WITH THIS CASE BECAUSE THEY NEED SOMEBODY TO BE RESPONSIBLE. KYLE RITTENHOUSE'S BEHAVIOR WAS PROTECTED UNDER THE LAW OF THE STATE OF WISCONSIN. THE LAW OF SELF-DEFENSE. >> Dana: THE MEDIA COVERAGE FACING NEW SCRUTINY FOR A RUSH TO JUDGMENT BEFORE THE FACTS CAME OUT. >> HAVING A PROTEST IN ANOTHER STATE AND HE TAKES IT UPON HIMSELF TO GO THERE. YOU KNOW, HE SAYS IT'S SELF-DEFENSE. NO. >> THE WITNESS STABBED LIKE HE'S SOME POOR BABE IN THE WOODS AND HE CROSSED STATE LINES, BREAK GUN LAWS. >> CROSS EXAMINATION WHAT WE SAW IS A REHEARSED KYLE RITTENHOUSE. >> IF A BLACK KID DID THAT, HOW WOULD AMERICA FEEL ABOUT THAT? >> THESE ARE THE VICTIMS. THESE ARE THE PEOPLE THAT PEOPLE OUGHT TO REMEMBER, THE PEOPLE THAT WERE HURT HERE, NOT THE PERSON CRYING ON THE STAND. >> BASICALLY WE'RE SAYING IT'S OKAY TO SHOOT WHITE PEOPLE, TOO. >> Dana: GERALDO, START WITH YOU. FROM A LEGAL PERSPECTIVE. >> I THINK THE VERDICT SHOULD IF THE JURORS STICK TO THE LAW RESULT IN AN ACQUITTAL. ONCE THEY DROP THE LESS SERIOUS CHARGES THAT MADE THE POSSIBILITY OF A CLEAN SWEEP MORE LIKELY. WHY? SELF-DEFENSE IS SO POWER IN WISCONSIN PARTICULARLY. IT'S CLEAR THAT THIS KID, HOWEVER -- I PERSONALLY FEEL THAT HE'S BEEN LIONIZED WAY OVER THE TOP. HE'S BEEN PORTRAYED BY HALF THIS COUNTRY AS A HEROIC YOUNGSTER FIGHTING FOR HIS COMMUNITY. I DON'T BELIEVE THAT AT ALL. I THINK HE WATCHED TOO MANY RAMBO MOVIES. HE'S A KID THAT TOOK A MACHINE GUN TO A RIOT. I THINK -- >> Greg: IT'S NOT A MACHINE GUN AND HE'S TOO YONG TO WATCH RAM DOUGH. >> THEN YOU DON'T HAVE CABLE TV OR -- >> Dana: HE'S NOT ON TRIAL FOR THOSE THINGS. >> MY POINT IS HE WILL BE ACQUITTED. HE SHOULD BE ACQUITTED. I THINK WHAT IS VERY DISTRESSING AND I MADE A POINT OF TELLING MY COLLEAGUE HERE, WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL NOT THE ROOT FOR AN OUTCOME IN A CASE. LET THE JURORS DECIDE BASED ON THE FACTS AND CIRCUMSTANCES AS THEY WERE PRESENTED, THE LEGAL EVIDENCE THAT WAS PRESENTED. I MUST SAY WELL AFTER MY APPEARANCE HERE LAST WEEK, I FOUND THE ARTICLES THAT HAD THE PICTURES OF HIM GIVING THE WHITE SUPREMACY SIGN ON THE QT. I HAVE THE PICTURE HERE. >> Greg: YOU ACTUALLY BELIEVE THIS IS A WHITE SUPREMACY SIGN? >> Dana: IT'S OKAY. >> I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT. I HOPE I'M WRONG. YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, KNOW BETTER THAN I BECAUSE AS I SAID, IF HE'S CONNECTED WITH THE WHITE SUPREMACISTS, THAT GIVES YOU AN ADD -- >> YOU'RE SMEARING HIM AGAIN. >> Jesse: GERALDO, THEY CHECKED HIS PHONE. THERE WAS NOT ONE THING ABOUT MALITIA OR WHITE SUPREMACY. CHECKED HIS PHONE. NOTHING ON IT. THAT'S THAT. >> IT'S JUST A COINCIDENCE. I'M NOT A LAWYER. THIS IS BASED ON THE FACTS. >> HE SHOULD BE ACQUITTED. >> Jesse: WE WANT THAT. WE WANT JUSTICE. >> DON'T PUT WORDS IN MY MOUTH. I'M DISPRESSED BY THE UNDERTONES. >> Greg: YOU SAY YOU'RE A LAWYER. BASED ON FACTS AND BRING UP SOMETHING ABOUT THIS? >> THAT MEANS NOTHING TO YOU? >> Greg: YES, MEANS NOTHING. >> I HOPE YOU'RE RIGHT. MAYBE JESSE IS RIGHT. >> Jesse: I'M SHOW YOU BARACK OBAMA DOING THIS. >> Greg: EMANUEL LEWIS WAS DOING THIS. >> WHO WAS HE STANDING WITH? >> Dana: WE WANT TO -- EVERYBODY IS GOING TO GET A CHANCE. >> Greg: WHO WAS HE STANDING WITH? WHO WAS HE STANDING WITH? I DON'T KNOW. >> I'D READ THE ARTICLE BUT JESSE -- >> Dana: WE CAN GO BACK TO IT. >> WE CAN GO BACK TO THE FACTS OF THE CASE AND WHAT HAPPENED AND THE REASON WHY WE'RE IN THIS SITUATION, GERALDO. THE REASON WHY WE'RE HERE, A MOB OF CRIMINAL ADULTS AND RIOTERS, A MAN THAT WAS SHOT, A MULTITIME PEDOPHILE A CHILD RAPIST, ATTACKED KYLE BECAUSE HE WAS IN KENOSHA PUTTING OUT THE FIRES AT THE BUILDINGS THAT THE RIOTERS WERE STARTING. THE POLICE WERE NOT THERE TO STOP THE RIOTERS TO PUT OUT THE FIRES. KYLE WAS THERE DOING THAT. THEY DIDN'T LIKE THAT VERY MUCH AND THEY ATTACKED HIM. THEY ASSAULTED HIM. THEY THREATENED TO KILL HIM, WHICH IS WHY HE DEFENDED HIMSELF IN SELF-DEFENSE. TWO DAYS BEFORE THE RIOTS, ALSO SOMETHING PEOPLE DON'T KNOW, ANOTHER BAND OF CRIMINALS SHOWED UP IN KENOSHA WITH RIFLES, RIOTERS THAT CONFRONTED THE POLICE. THE POLICE BACKED OFF. THAT'S WHY THE POLICE WEREN'T THERE THAT DAY TO STOP THE RIOTERS FROM STARTING FIRES. THE MEN IN THIS CASE THAT WERE KILLED, JOSEPH ROSENBAUM, CHILD RAPIST. ANTHONY HUBER HAD A SUFFOCATION CHARGE AGAINST HIM. PULLED A KNIFE ON HIS BROTHER AND GRANDMOTHER. AND GAGUEGROSSKREUTZ ADMITTED IN COURT THAT HE STUCK A GUN IN KYLE'S FACE AND THAT'S WHY HE WAS SHOT BY KYLE IN SELF-DEFENSE. I WONDER ON THE OTHER SIDE, HOW WOULD YO GO THROUGH THE CASE AND COME TO A CONCLUSION THAT YOU DID THAT KYLE SHOULD BE ACQUITTED? WHAT IF PEOPLE ARE WATCHING A WEEK'S WORTH OF VIDEO AND THE TOWN BURNING DOWN AND GOING I DON'T WANT THAT TO HAPPEN AGAIN. I HAVE TO COME TO A DIFFERENT CONCLUSION. THAT'S NOT WHAT THE JURY INSTRUCTIONS ARE. THERE ARE THREATS ABOUT THIS. THE JURY WAS NOT SEQUESTERS. THERE'S 500 NATIONAL GUARD SOLDIERS IN THE TOWN TO PREVENT SOMETHING LIKE THIS FROM HAPPENING. WHAT IF THEY'RE SEEING IT FROM THE OTHER PERSPECTIVE IF I DON'T MAKE THE RIGHT DECISION BASED ON THE MOB, MY FAMILY WILL BE THREATENED. >> Dana: THE PROTESTERS SAID -- IN THE COURTROOM YOU COULD HEAR THE PROTESTERS OUTSIDE. SURELY THE JURY WHEREVER THEY WERE -- >> Greg: THE POINT I MADE AFTER CHAUVIN WHEN I GO LIKE OH, I'M RELIEVE HE WAS FOUND GUILTY SO MY CITY WON'T BURN. I WAS MAKING A COMMENT ON SOCIETY. SOCIETY DICTATES HOW PEOPLE DECIDE IN COURT. WE'RE WATCHING BUSINESSES GET BOARDED UP ON AN MIH, MEDIA INDUCED HURRICANE. THE MEDIA INDUCES THIS BY AWAITING THE COVERAGE IN A WAY THAT THEY WANT. CNN AND MSNBC CHOSE NOT TO SHOW MOST IF NOT ALL OF THE CLOSING ARGUMENTS FROM THE DEFENSE. SO WHAT YOUR LEFT WITH IS WHAT YOU HEARD FROM THE PROSECUTION, WHICH IS THAT ONE OF THEM DIDN'T HAVE A GUN WHEN HE HAD A GUN OR RITTENHOUSE IS A RACEST OR DOESN'T LIKE BLACKS. HE WASN'T DOING THE ATTACKING. HE WASN'T BEING ATTACKED. BY SHOWING ONE SIDE OF THIS, THAT MAKES THE RIOTS MORE JUSTIFIED. WHEN HE SAID THE JUDGE MISLED THE JURY, THAT MEANS THAT JUSTICE WAS NOT SERVED SO THE ACTIVISTS CAN SAY WE'RE WE GO AGAIN. WE HAVE TO BURN EVERYTHING DOWN. THE MEDIA PUSHES THE LIE AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT NO JUSTICE CAN BE HAD, THIS IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN HUMANITY AND MEDIA. FOR HUMANITY, WE LIVE BY THE BOY WHO CRIED WOLF. IT'S A NECESSARY FABLE TO BUILD TRUST. WHEN A BOY CRIES WOLF, CRIES WOLF. YOU DON'T TRUST HIM. THAT'S A MORALITY TALE. IN THE MEDIA, IT'S A PROPHET MODEL. FOR THE MEDIA, IT'S WHAT THEY DO WITH RACE, CLIMATE AND GUNS BECAUSE IT'S THEIR GODDAMN PROFIT MODEL. THAT'S WHY THEY DO IT AND THEY'RE DOING IT AGAIN. I'M SORRY I SWORE. >> Dana: PERMISSION WAS TO SWEAR WAS GRANTED IN RETROSPECT. >> Greg: SEND YOU LETTERS TO DANA. >> Dana: I DON'T WANT YOU TO GET IN TROUBLE. WRAP IT UP, JESSE. >> Jesse: I HAVE A LOT TO SAY. >> Dana: THEY SAID WE HAVE TIME. >> Jesse: HERE WE GO. THIS IS WHAT THE LEFT DID. THEY FALSELY LABEL SOMETHING RACEST AND JUSTIFIES THE RIOTS. THAT JUSTIFIES THE THEIR RANSACKING AND LOOTING AND BURNING. YOU CAN'T GET IN THE WAY OF A RIGHTEOUS RIOT, RIGHT? MAKES YOU RACIST, RIGHT? SO KYLE GOT IN THE WAY. HE SHOULD HAVE TAKEN A BEING. THAT'S WHAT THE PROSECUTION SAID. TAKE YOUR BEATING. KYLE DIDN'T TAKE THE BEATING. HE USED SELF-DEFENSE. THEY CAN'T HAVE THAT. THEY HAD TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF KYLE. THEY HAVE TO CHILL OTHER PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO PROTECT THEIR OWN COMMUNITIES. TOTAL SNOBS. WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO CONNECT KENOSHA? IT'S FLYOVER COUNTRY. MIDDLE CLASS PEOPLE WITH FIRES GOT STARTED AT A CAR DEALERSHIP. WHOOPY. WHO CARES? YOU KNOW, THE OTHER THING, THEY COME AFTER SANTA BARBARA OR THE HAMPTONS. PRIVATE PROPERTY. EXPENSIVE. THAT'S WORTH PROTECTING. SO THEY'RE CONDITIONING THE COUNTRY TO BOW TO THE MOB. THEY'RE CONDITIONING THE COUNTRY TO NOT USE THEIR SECOND AMOUNT RIGHT AND USING PSYCHOLOGICAL WARFARE AS GREG SAID. THEY WILL TAKE A HUGE VILLAIN A PEDOPHILE A LYING COMMUNIST AND TURN THE GUY INTO A HERO OR A GUARDIAN OF A COMMUNITY AND MAKE THAT GUY A VILLAIN. HE WENT THERE TO GIVE MEDICAL AID AND PUT OUT FIRES. ALL RIGHT? THAT CONFUSING THE COUNTRY. DEMOCRATS EXPLOIT THAT C
