The Ferrari V8 Engined Thema 8.32 Is Italy’s Craziest Car! Lancia 8.32

foreign [Music] Classics for sponsoring today's video check out this online auction for classic cars with no buyers fees the Tamer turbo was a really good car it used the engine from the Delta integrale for blistering Pace it had crisp handling and it was comfortable very bizarre then to think that lancha felt the need to make another Tamer which was heavier was slower handled worse and yet cost two and a half times the price of the normal turbo welcome to the Tamer 832 the turbo cost 15 000 pounds this cost a staggering thirty seven thousand five hundred now in isolation it made absolutely no sense but I have an inkling I know what the Italians were thinking at that point essentially the Germans in the mid 80s were really getting into their stride with a formidable array of top end luxury sporting saloons BMW had the 5 series The Seven series Merck had the w124 the S-Class and Italy really had no reply until that is some bright spark decided to look for a solution elsewhere in the Fiat catalog this is what makes this lanter so special it is a Ferrari engine now in truth this wasn't the first time that Ferrari and Lancer crossed paths in 1955 lancha was forced to sell its fledgling Formula One operation Lock Stock and Barrel including the cars to Ferrari to add insult to injury Ferrari then won the championship with that very car a year later there was of course also the Fantastic Stratos with the dino V6 engine this particular partnership is just on another level crazy they decided to put a Ferrari sports car engine from a 308 QV into a very ordinary front drive Saloon now the injured is much changed they wanted to make it more drivable talk more accessible so they went from a flat plane crank to a cross-plane crank the heads are revised and there's lots and lots of other differences as a result power went down from 240 to 215 but with higher torque not only then did this team I have a Ferrari engine but it was especially modified Ferrari engine only used in this application perhaps that explains why it had such an incredible price tag this car was double the price of a Ford Sierra Cosworth it was also seven thousand Pounds more expensive than an Audi Quattro but perhaps most damaging of all the BMW M5 the E28 which quite frankly would run rings around this was also two thousand pounds cheaper now you may say well those are all quite sporty cars that's not what this was intended to be well okay let's compare it to a V12 a Jag xj12 was 8 000 pounds cheaper than the Tamer and really better dynamically in most ways so the price was a little bit on the ludicrous side but was it worth it well the answer is yes and no wow wow wow wow what an engine [Music] foreign it's like a it's like a cross that has all the best bits of the American V8 but it has just a rip roaring top end I'm really surprised because I myself have a 308 so mine is a carb version but I know how that flat plane version of this engine performs and honestly this it's fabulous it really is it doesn't feel like it's really lost much at the top end or anyway in eagerness to wet to rev the way it goes up and when you go past about sort of five and a half it really snows the gear change is I'd read was quite recalcitrant quite notchy quite difficult to use I'm not finding it difficult at all it is slightly notchy and you have to be precise when you're putting in the gears it doesn't forgive you being sloppy but all in all it's not getting in the way and I think it's it's okay it's not the best unit out there but it's all right the handling though well that's another matter on the way back now I'm gonna be a little bit more vigorous and I can tell you what's up with the way it goes that engine just feels like a thoroughbred oh my God these are supposed to be the bad points the handling so the steering is pretty numb but quite frankly I'd rare from what I I'd read I thought it was going to be worse having driven the original cars my dad has had a succession of Tamers I know what those setups are like and they're a little bit crisper [Music] this one there's not much feel coming through it's not particularly fast either but it was fairly tidy through those s's it wasn't absolutely terrible you can feel the mass of the car moving around though and ultimately if you push it too hard in tight Corners then it just defaults to quite heavy understeer which isn't very satisfying but if you're driving it on sort of larger sweepers like this then it starts to make more sense and I think that as a car designed to travel distance on smooth flowing roads it would actually be quite satisfying now the brakes were quite large by the standards of the time and it's not the kind of car that you're going to be really piling on the brakes for so I'm not sure what they would do in terms of fade the pedal is a little bit mushy it's not too bad but again unremarkable I would say that they do the job but they're not exceptional suspension really doesn't seem to deal well with the bigger sort of bumps and potholes either it sends a shudder through the whole structure time has definitely been kind to the temer steering because the modern setups are so numb that this doesn't feel quite as bad now but I think that it hardly has any talks there and I have a feeling that perhaps the way they set up the geometry and the steering system in order to make sure there wasn't going to be that torque stick is why it's not quite as good or as fieldsome as some of the smaller engine Tamers the series two cars had an active setup this has got passive dampers but again they're supposed to work better than the active one they don't do a great job of controlling body roll the ride is I would to be charitable I'd say it's unexceptional it's not bad it's quite comfortable but it's not a patch on something like a Jag that you could have bought at the time for less money dynamically it definitely has its failings on the plus side well I've already said that that engine although maybe not the fastest thing in the world is spectacular and it really really is nothing goes or sounds quite like it sorry if I'm repeating myself again also fantastic opulent interior I love this it's the basically it's the same structure as a standard Tamer but everything is covered in leather this whole instrument panel has been changed to give it a ferrari-esque feel including the vents loads more dials the wood trim it's got a a strange sort of a matte finish but I think it suits it pretty well and it's very comfortable these chairs are great they're supportive and they're comfy the driving position a little bit long-armed but not too bad perhaps also because of the price they only sold seven or eight of these in the UK so it is an extremely exclusive car and you have to say that although dynamically it's not the best thing ever it's still quite an alluring thing it's hard to emphasize just how exotic this car was for the time that electric spoiler in itself I know now it just seems like a meaningless Gadget but for the time the wow factor was incredible apart from that it's not really very showy the wheels are a bit different but it was designed to be a car that would go under the radar and in Italy it is said that a lot of industrialists bought it who didn't want their workers to think that they were making loads of money so that they basically they just had a lancha tema [Applause] [Music] so if we judge it by the standards of the time in which it was launched I think we have no option but to conclude that the Tama 832 was a little bit of a lemon after all an M5 would run rings around it and it costs less but I hear you say this wasn't really supposed to be a sports car and you're right and if we look at it as a fastish sort of luxury Saloon then it works a lot better but there is a problem here too if you're looking for ultimate luxury and refinement well an S-Class at that time a 420 SEL which was a much better car if judging on those standards was actually cheaper than the 832 today though this is a car to be cherished and admired it no longer matters how it compared to its contemporaries its unique nature The Limited numbers the bespoke build the Ferrari engine make it a truly special car it's interesting to see how much lancha had changed by the time that the Tamer came out if you want to see a video on one of the last real launchers in the 70s have a look at this on the full view it gives you a bit of history of the mark as well if you want me to do a video on one of your cars then please contact me on Instagram or by email thank you all so much for watching and see you for the next video

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Published: Mon Jun 05 2023