<i> - The following is
a CNN special report.</i> <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - I was a happy child.
I was an artist.</i> <i> - I loved to go to school</i> <i> because I want to be
with my friends,</i> <i> but unfortunately,
something came along.</i> <i> - Then I just sort of erupted,</i> <i> and I just blurted out,</i> <i> "I was abused."</i> <i> - If they commit a crime,
you look away.</i> <i> - If a priest is allowed
to go 20 to 30 years,</i> <i> there are several
hundred victims per priest.</i> <i> - Give us the time
to think about it.</i> - Father, do you have time, when there are
vulnerable children? Do you have time? <i> - We have cases every day
of the week</i> <i> where they're simply moved</i> <i> and put into ministry
without telling anyone.</i> - Do you know who this man is? - Luk. - Luk Delft? - We spent the whole morning
looking for Father Delft. It's been a bit
of a wild-goose chase, but now we're hearing
that he's back in his office, and we're heading there now. - Hello, Father Delft?
- Yes. - Hi.
- No, no, no. No, no, no. [bell tolling] <i> - Rome in all its grandeur:</i> <i> St. Peter's Basilica
lights up the sky.</i> <i> All around is
postcard perfect.</i> <i> But behind the high walls,
turmoil roils the church.</i> [chatter] - They know better.
- Yeah. - But they're not doing better. <i> - The Pope has called a summit</i> <i> to discuss
clerical child abuse,</i> <i> bishops from around the world</i> <i> grappling with the scale
of the tragedy.</i> <i> - An unprecedented admission.</i> <i> Abuse survivors gather
to be heard,</i> <i> demanding justice and change.</i> <i> The Catholic Church
issues new guidelines,</i> <i> but survivors say
they don't go far enough.</i> <i> There are some
worrying gray areas.</i> <i> You may think
you know this story:</i> <i> priests abusing children,</i> <i> but there is something
you may not know.</i> <i> There are powerful
institutions within the Church</i> <i> who are free to self-police.</i> <i> In many cases, not even
the Pope can sanction them.</i> <i> The religious orders,
the Jesuits,</i> <i> Benedictines, Franciscans,</i> <i> powerful, wealthy
and secretive.</i> <i> But according to experts,</i> <i> victims,
witnesses we spoke with,</i> <i> there is one order
that stands out</i> <i> as among the most defiant,</i> <i> most unrepentant:
the Salesians of Don Bosco,</i> <i> the second largest order
in the world</i> <i> and whose very mission is
to help vulnerable children.</i> <i> In a yearlong CNN
investigation through Europe,</i> <i> Africa, and across
the United States,</i> <i> we found a pattern of behavior
which saw many</i> <i> of the Salesian brotherhood
protecting each other,</i> <i> moving alleged abusers
from place to place,</i> <i> country to country,
in some cases,</i> <i> allegedly threatening
whistleblowers and victims.</i> <i> Across continents,
across decades,</i> <i> an order meant
to protect children</i> <i> but too many times
hurts them instead.</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - It wasn't just
the one priest.</i> <i> It was several of them.
They covered for each other.</i> <i> - There's a bigger problem,
because how many times</i> <i> has he abused
in the last 40 years?</i> <i> - Two men separated
by over a decade of time,</i> <i> but each's abuse and betrayal
bleeds into the other's.</i> <i> - Lawyers say that when
their client</i> <i> was a student at Richmond
Salesian High School</i> <i> from 1969 to 1973...</i> <i> - Local television coverage
of a shocking case.</i> <i> - And in their lawsuit
filed yesterday,</i> <i> they say other clergy
at the school knew about it.</i> <i> - In the late '60s,
early 1970s,</i> <i> the Salesian High School
in Richmond, California,</i> <i> was a hunting ground</i> <i> for a ring
of pedophile priests...</i> - I'm sorry...<i>
- A self-protecting cluster.</i> <i> An anonymous victim,
John Doe 17,</i> <i> filed a lawsuit
that was brought in 2003.</i> <i> John Doe 17 is
Joey Piscitelli.</i> - I was kind of a happy child. I was an artist. I went to a Catholic
grammar school. I got straight As
for eight years. - When did that
start to change? - We were going to play pool,
and the priest, who's the vice principal,
he sat down at the bench, and he said, "You shoot,"
and I said, "Okay," and I shot the ball, and I turned around
and told him, "It's your turn." And I looked at him, and he was
sitting there masturbating, and I remember
I turned all red. I started sweating. The hair on my neck
was standing up, and I just stood there frozen. I didn't know what to do, and he said,
"Keep playing, now. I want to watch you." And then I turned around,
and the head of the boys' club, Brother Sal, was watching this, and he just stood
there watching. He did nothing. <i> - Joey Piscitelli drew to cope
with the abuse,</i> <i> his pictures becoming
more vivid and violent,</i> <i> mirroring the nightmare
he was living,</i> <i> a nightmare
that only got worse.</i> <i> - This went on for about
a year and a half,</i> and then one day, he cornered me on the stairs and started molesting me
and told me, to get upstairs
to the all-purpose room on the third floor
of the school, and he dragged me into the room
and attacked me, and I was raped,
and I passed out and blacked out
while it happened, and I just totally lost
sense of what happened after he started attacking me. When I got home... Well, I don't even know
how I got home. But when I got home,
I had blood in my underwear, so I went in the backyard
of my house, and I wrapped the bloody
underwear around a rock and threw it over the fence
into the field to get rid of the evidence
or whatever. It was so disgusting,
and I knew I had been raped. <i> - According to Piscitelli,
he was threatened</i> <i> when he reported it
to a staff member.</i> - The principal of the school,
Father Bernard Dabbene, who's now a convicted molester, told me that he was going
to kick me out of the school and fire my mother
from the cafeteria because I have a big mouth. <i> - Threats and intimidation
by the Salesians,</i> <i> a pattern you will see
throughout this investigation.</i> <i> The Salesians fought
Piscitelli's lawsuit</i> <i> at every turn,</i> <i> like in these court documents,
when they argued</i> <i> that Father Whelan</i> <i> masturbating
in front of a schoolboy</i> <i> is acceptable if deemed funny.</i> <i> In 2006,
Piscitelli won his case</i> <i> and was awarded $600,000,
but more than that,</i> <i> he won public recognition
of the appalling wrongs</i> <i> he'd suffered
at Salesian hands.</i> <i> Father Dabbene, the principal
who threatened Piscitelli,</i> <i> also had a history of abuse.</i> <i> Over a decade
before Joey Piscitelli</i> <i> started Salesian
High School in Richmond,</i> <i> it was a Salesian seminary.</i> <i> It was where
a teenage George Stein</i> <i> first met Bernard Dabbene.</i> I know it's not easy
to retell or to relive this, but could you tell us
a little bit about what happened in your
sophomore year at the seminary? - Sure. You want me to talk
about abuse or violation. - Only if you want to.
- Sure. - Only if you're comfortable
doing it. - No, sure. I can do it. He basically hugged me
and kissed me, and that was inappropriate, and I wasn't expecting it
at all, and I told him
that this happened, and I wanted it to stop. And for me, it did. It stopped. He remained there for the rest
of the academic year, and then he was reassigned. - But he was reassigned
to another school? - Yes, yes. <i> - Much later, Stein discovered
the true horror</i> <i> hidden at the seminary.</i> <i> - At our 40th anniversary</i> <i> of our graduation
from high school,</i> a third to a half shared that they had had occasion to be molested or to be approached. - That's an extraordinary
percentage of people in that room. - Yes, yes. It is. <i> - The church says so much
of this horror is in the past,</i> <i> but it's not.</i> <i> Only last year,</i> <i> the LA Archdiocese had
to remove a Salesian priest</i> <i> from working within
its school system</i> <i> after becoming aware
of sexual abuse allegations</i> <i> dating back 40 years,</i> <i> allegations that the Salesians
had failed to act on.</i> <i> Patrick Wall was, himself,
a religious order priest</i> <i> and to date has helped
to investigate</i> <i> hundreds of
clerical abuse cases.</i> - The Salesians are silencio. They have refused
to put out anything unless it's with a court order or unless the civil authorities
force them to do something. In my experience,
it's been that the Salesians have the highest percentage
of perpetrators of any religious order
across the world because of their focus. <i> - That focus being</i> <i> the betterment
of the lives of children,</i> <i> which includes creating
and teaching at schools,</i> <i> youth camps, clubs,
and missionary work.</i> <i> The Salesians of Don Bosco</i> <i> are now
a worldwide organization</i> <i> working in more than
130 countries,</i> <i> helping millions of children.</i> <i> But as our investigation
across three continents found,</i> <i> not always protecting them.</i> <i> Coming up,
Benjamin Kitobo fled his home</i> <i> in the Democratic Republic
of the Congo,</i> <i> but his demons followed him.</i> <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - Benjamin Kitobo
with the taped confession</i> <i> of his abuser.</i> <i> Capturing it was the start,</i> <i> he says,
of taking his life back.</i> <i> - The man on the tape,
Father Omer Verbeke,</i> <i> a Belgian priest stationed
in Kitobo's then home</i> <i> of the Democratic Republic
of the Congo in Africa.</i> <i> But it wasn't just one time.</i> <i> Kitobo says it went on
for years at the seminary</i> <i> where he was a teenager,</i> <i> studying to be a priest
in the 1980s.</i> <i> He says, "I don't understand.
I repent to God.</i> What more should I do
to ask forgiveness?" How did that make you feel?
How does it make you feel? <i> - From his home in St. Louis,
Kitobo filed a claim</i> <i> against Verbeke
in Ghent, Belgium,</i> <i> where Bishop of Ghent,
Lucas Van Looy,</i> <i> a Salesian superstar,</i> <i> took over
the handling of the case.</i> <i> Kitobo was
awarded compensation</i> <i> and says Van Looy promised him</i> <i> Verbeke would no longer be
around young people.</i> <i> As Bishop of Ghent, Van Looy
had oversight of Verbeke,</i> <i> and he failed to keep him
in Belgium,</i> <i> failed to keep him
away from children.</i> - In 2014, you had discovered that he had set up
an orphanage in Rwanda, and so, of course,
was around children. Did the Bishop of Ghent
respond to you? <i> - Van Looy refused
CNN's request</i> <i> for an on-camera interview</i> <i> and insisted
he repeatedly imposed</i> <i> a travel ban on Verbeke</i> <i> but admitted to us
Verbeke had ignored the ban.</i> <i> Verbeke is not
a Salesian priest,</i> <i> but as we left St. Louis,</i> <i> it was clear to us that,</i> <i> seeing as Salesians
such as Van Looy</i> <i> are in positions to affect</i> <i> the handling
of abuse allegations,</i> <i> even in the case of
non-Salesians like Verbeke...</i> <i> - Before leaving the aircraft,</i> <i> take a quick look
around your seat</i> <i> and make sure
you have everything</i> <i> you brought on board.</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - Through our investigation,
it's becoming clear</i> <i> that even as the Pope
recommends universal</i> <i> principles of conduct,</i> <i> the orders, the Salesians,
continue business as usual.</i> We're in Ghent in Belgium because so many of the
allegations lead us back here. <i> - Bishop Van Looy was not</i> <i> just involved
in the case of Father Verbeke.</i> <i> There were many other cases,
like Father Luk Delft.</i> <i> - [speaking Dutch]</i> <i> - Father Luk Delft,
a dormitory supervisor</i> <i> convicted in 2012,
regarding previous abuse</i> <i> at a Salesian boarding school
in Ghent.</i> <i> Yet again there was an
opportunity to stop an abuser,</i> <i> and yet again
the Salesians failed.</i> <i> Spurred by concerns</i> <i> Delft could still be
interacting with children,</i> <i> two of the boarding school
victims</i> <i> agreed to speak with us.</i> - I was 12, so everybody
was 12, 13 years old, and suddenly at night, someone was trying
to pull off my blankets. - The day after,
I know I remember I told one of my best friends that I had a really weird dream involving getting touched
in places which were weird. - And at the beginning,
we were laughing about it because one of the kids
told us, "Yeah, I had, like, a dream,
and I came in my dream," but afterwards we heard the horrible effects of it. - And the next night,
I woke up again, and then I realized
I was really awake, and then I felt, yeah, someone touching my legs
and my genitals and also giving me oral...yeah. I don't know how to say it. <i> - It was Father Luk Delft,</i> <i> a dormitory supervisor
at the school</i> <i> and a rising Salesian star.</i> <i> CNN has learned Delft was
moved by the Salesian order</i> <i> after being confronted
over the allegations.</i> <i> He was sent to work with
a number of different schools</i> <i> in Belgium.</i> <i> Then the Salesians
sent him abroad</i> <i> to one of the most vulnerable
countries in the world.</i> Do you know who this man is? <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - Father Luk Delft was,
we're told,</i> <i> marked for greatness:</i> <i> charming, intelligent,
expected to rocket up</i> <i> the ranks of his Catholic
religious order,</i> <i> the Salesians of Don Bosco.</i> <i> He was also
a serial pedophile.</i> <i> In 2001, Delft worked
as a bedroom monitor</i> <i> at a Salesian boarding school
in Ghent, Belgium,</i> <i> when he sexually assaulted
two boys, aged 12</i> <i> and 13 at the time.</i> <i> After a few nights
of this ordeal,</i> <i> one of the students
struck up the courage</i> <i> to speak to someone
they trusted.</i> - One of the victims... <i> - Wim Hanssens
was the deputy director</i> <i> of the boarding school.</i> - There was no moment,
in my mind, when a child comes
to tell you this, that it happened. - You believed him immediately?
- Yep. The day afterwards,
another boy came to me and told me the same story. <i> At that moment,
I wrote down on a paper</i> <i> what these kids told me.</i> <i> I called Luk Delft.</i> <i> I show him on the paper
what these children told me.</i> <i> And first he said,
"I just caressed them."</i> <i> But when I let him read
that he touched</i> the genitals of those kids,
he confessed, and I asked him to sign
this paper, which he did. <i> - A signed confession.</i> <i> Hanssens asked Delft
to leave the school</i> <i> and made sure
the Salesian order were aware.</i> <i> Hanssens says the Salesians
promised him</i> <i> and the parents of the boys</i> <i> that Delft would never be
around children again.</i> <i> CNN has learned
that this promise</i> <i> has been repeatedly broken,
as Salesian leaders in Belgium</i> <i> moved the confessed
pedophile priest</i> <i> from one school to another</i> <i> and allowed him
to travel abroad.</i> <i> Ghent, Sint-Pieters-Woluwe,
Haiti, India,</i> <i> and supervising children
on a school trip to the Congo.</i> <i> - [speaking Dutch]</i> <i> - In 2012,
Luk Delft was convicted</i> <i> for the abuse of children
in the Don Bosco dormitory,</i> <i> to which he had confessed
in 2001.</i> <i> It was only when a former
staff member finally did</i> <i> what Salesian leaders had not:</i> <i> reported Delft
to the authorities.</i> <i> - During the trial,
it was also revealed</i> <i> that he had twice been caught</i> <i> with child pornography
on his laptop.</i> <i> Delft received
a suspended sentence,</i> <i> his restrictions clear:</i> <i> no interactions with children
for the next ten years.</i> <i> Were he to break these rules,
he would face a new trial</i> <i> and possible imprisonment.</i> <i> Hanssens says he paid
a high price</i> <i> for speaking out
against the Salesians.</i> - They can break you, and they broke me. So yes, I had to leave because I'm, like, a kind of danger,
according to them. Although I think... they should be grateful. Otherwise, I don't know
what would have happened to those victims. <i> - He says he was blacklisted
from Salesian schools</i> <i> in the area</i> <i> after reporting
the inappropriate behavior</i> <i> of a number of priests.</i> <i> The Salesians deny
his accusation.</i> <i> Time and time again,</i> <i> we have seen a pattern
of behavior by the Salesians</i> <i> to systematically move
known pedophiles</i> <i> and to intimidate those
who want to protect children.</i> - It's always a system:
move that person to another place,
and we'll see. <i> - But once convicted,</i> <i> would the Salesians
really risk</i> <i> giving Delft access
to children again?</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> We set out in search of Delft.</i> <i> Much of what we know
about his movements</i> <i> are from his own
social media posts.</i> <i> Our research is zeroing in
on a remote town</i> <i> in the Central African
Republic, Kaga-Bandoro,</i> <i> so that's where we're headed.</i> <i> The only safe way for us
to get to the town</i> <i> is on a United Nations
humanitarian flight.</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> It's taken us about two days,
three different planes to get up here to the north of the Central African
Republic. If you were trying
to disappear, this would definitely be
suitably remote. <i> UNICEF has called it</i> <i> one of the worst places
in the world</i> <i> to be a child,</i> <i> falling to the bottom</i> <i> of the UN
Human Development Index.</i> <i> A shaky peace deal
is barely holding.</i> <i> United Nations forces
on constant watch.</i> <i> The day we arrived,
the threat level is</i> <i> almost at its highest.</i> When Father Delft arrived here,
part of his work involved caring for families
and children forced from their homes
by violence, incredibly vulnerable
families and children. [bells ringing] <i> The young training
to be altar servers.</i> <i> The Catholic Church
has a strong presence</i> <i> in this community
and throughout the country.</i> [hymnal music] <i> Four years ago, the Pope came
and blessed the Christians</i> <i> of the Central
African Republic,</i> <i> hundreds of people
celebrating.</i> <i> In the crowd,
we spot Luk Delft.</i> <i> - And in this promotional
video for Caritas,</i> <i> the Catholic Church's
relief agency,</i> <i> he's even featured as
a key director for the agency.</i> <i> Delft was sent here
by the Belgian Salesians,</i> <i> well aware of the court
restrictions on him.</i> <i> The Catholic compound
in Kaga-Bandoro:</i> <i> right behind is a school.</i> <i> This is where the Caritas
office was and still is.</i> <i> This is where
Luk Delft was based.</i> <i> Caritas here under Delft
was in charge</i> <i> of looking after
internally displaced people,</i> <i> providing food,
education, and medicine.</i> <i> We have been told that it was
during this period</i> <i> that Delft was,
once again, abusing children.</i> <i> A local producer has found the
family of an alleged victim</i> <i> who may be willing
to speak with us.</i> It's proving really difficult
to get people to speak to us on camera. People are really afraid. We're going to jump out here
and try one last time. <i> - As we drive away, we pass
the burnt-down courthouse,</i> <i> a reminder that there are no
real avenues for justice here.</i> <i> Next, a race against time</i> <i> to track down
this known pedophile.</i> We've spent the whole morning
looking for Father Delft. It's been a bit
of a wild-goose chase, but now we're hearing
that he's back in his office, and we're heading there now. Hello. Father Delft? - Yes.
- Hi. - No, no, no. No, no, no. <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> - ♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪ ♪ Hallelujah ♪ <i> - The hallelujah rings out.</i> <i> A choirboy leads
the congregants in song</i> <i> as the Pope oversees a mass
at the Vatican</i> <i> celebrating the work
of Caritas,</i> <i> the Catholic Church's
relief charity.</i> <i> We found Father Luk Delft,</i> <i> convicted pedophile,
among the congregation.</i> <i> Head bowed, he accepts
the blessed sacrament.</i> - [singing in Latin] <i> - As director of Caritas in
the Central African Republic,</i> <i> Delft traveled freely,
attending this service</i> <i> only a month before
we would try to visit him.</i> <i> We've heard that Delft has
continued to abuse children,</i> <i> but so far, no one is willing
to speak on camera.</i> <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> It's here in Kaga-Bandoro</i> <i> that Delft first worked
for Caritas,</i> <i> the Catholic charity.</i> <i> Their mission: to protect
the most vulnerable.</i> <i> It's also here
that we're hearing whispers</i> <i> of possible new victims.</i> <i> Finally, a breakthrough:</i> <i> at the local displaced camp
on the outskirts of town,</i> <i> Alban and his father agree
to speak to us.</i> Do you know who this man is? - Luk.
- Pere Luk? - He became your friend.
What happened? <i> - It's clear Alban is
too upset to talk much more,</i> <i> so we asked his father if he
can explain what happened.</i> What did Father Delft do? - That was clearly really tough
for both Alban and his father, but we had to show them
this picture. We had to know that the man that Alban says abused him is Father Luk Delft. What happened in there clearly came at such great cost
for both of them, but it was something
that they told us again and again they needed to do because justice is not easy
to get up here. <i> We leave Kaga-Bandoro.
It's time to track down Delft.</i> <i> This is Bangui, capital of
the Central African Republic.</i> <i> We've traveled here from
the north, where we met Alban.</i> <i> Caritas Centrafrique's
headquarters is here.</i> <i> Sunday, and we get
an early morning wake-up call.</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> Our contacts are telling us</i> <i> he regularly celebrates
mass in the area.</i> <i> We try the churches.</i> <i> He's nowhere to be found.</i> <i> We try him at his residence,
but he hasn't spent the night.</i> <i> Nothing.</i> We've spent the whole morning
looking for Father Delft. It's been a bit
of a wild-goose chase, but now we're hearing
that he's back at his office, and we're heading there now. Hello. Father Delft? - Yes.
- Hi. - No, no, no. No, no, no. No. - We spoke to the prosecutor
in Belgium, so we'd like to simply
ask you some questions about breaking the terms
of your sentence. We also spoke to some children
up in Kaga-Bandoro who had some really disturbing
stories to share with us, and, of course,
we'd like to hear what you have to say
about it, Father Delft. - Nothing.
- What do you mean nothing? - Nothing.
- You're a priest. You're a man of God. These children are accusing you
of abusing them, and you have nothing
to say for yourself? - No.
- Do you know Alban? Do you remember Alban? He said he was 13
when you abused him. Do you remember him? - Who?
- Alban. Alban, in Kaga-Bandoro,
at the compound, the Catholic compound. He and his father spoke to us.
He was crying. He said that you told him
you loved him, and then you hurt him. You have nothing to say?
- No, no. - It doesn't disturb you
to hear that children said this
about you? - No. - Do you want to say anything? - No. - Okay. Well, we will, of course, be speaking to the managers of Caritas about our findings. Thank you
for whatever this was. <i> ♪ ♪</i> He had absolutely... he had nothing to say
for himself. He was utterly blank. He didn't care.
He did not care. He didn't remember. You could see it in his eyes that he didn't remember
that little boy's name. The things that
that little boy told us, the bravery that that little
boy showed in speaking to us, and that man in there
didn't remember him. [bells tolling] <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> We travel back to Belgium
to share the evidence</i> <i> we've gathered
with the Salesian order.</i> <i> Maybe we can get answers here.</i> <i> Father Carlo Loots</i> <i> has been handling allegations
of child abuse</i> <i> for the Flemish region
of the Salesian order</i> <i> for almost a decade.</i> <i> The order's work with
young children, he tells us,</i> <i> complicates the question
of where to relocate abusers.</i> - That's one of the greatest
challenges, where... what to do with abusers. We have to move them
into another place... But we don't have
so much authorities. - So specifically in the case
of Father Delft, as you remember it,
how was it handled? - He abused two members of
the boarding school in Ghent. He was, at that moment,
immediately removed from the boarding school. The decision was clear: no direct pedagogical contact
with young people. So he became a coordinator, administrator of a center of vocational
and educational training in Sint-Pieters-Woluwe. - Sint-Pieters-Woluwe,
which is a school, though. So this center
is housed within a school. - Yeah, but separately. - But there were children
on the campus. - There were children
on the campus, yeah. - Eventually, Delft got
into trouble again. He was found with
child pornography on a laptop that he had had access to. - Yes. Yeah. <i> - Were you aware that in 2008,</i> <i> Luk Delft went
on a school trip</i> <i> with children
to Lubumbashi in the Congo?</i> - When you...yeah. Now when you say it
to me, yeah. <i> - And yet still
the Salesians sent him</i> <i> to the Central
African Republic,</i> <i> where CNN found
his latest accusers.</i> What will you do now
with Father Delft? - We have
an advisory commission about cases about sexual abuse, and for us,
these are new facts, and I will bring together
that commission, and there, we will discuss
how to handle concretely, but at least give us
the time to think about it. When people... - Father, do you have time when there are
vulnerable children? Do you have time? - But at least... we met first Friday. Now it's Tuesday, and now you proved me
that there are new cases, so--also you took some time, so we will not take time in
the sense of months, of weeks. In a very short time,
I will bring people together who can help us
what has to be done concretely and what will be the most
appropriate way to handle. - You've been handling
child abuse cases now for eight, nine years. - Yeah. - How is that?
How does that feel? - It's a shame. <i> - But shame doesn't help
the survivors we spoke with.</i> <i> We traveled to the Vatican
for answers.</i> <i> [dramatic music]</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i> <i> - CNN has uncovered
a blind spot within the church</i> <i> that allows religious orders
to self-police.</i> <i> One order, the Salesians,
have used this blind spot</i> <i> to protect their own,</i> <i> putting the brotherhood
before children,</i> <i> putting lives at risk.</i> <i> We came to the Vatican
to share the evidence</i> <i> that we were able to unearth
over a yearlong investigation,</i> evidence of abusers
being moved, evidence of refusal
to defrock abusers, evidence of lives
being destroyed. <i> But many
of the key institutions</i> <i> refuse to even speak to us,</i> <i> and that doesn't give
much hope</i> <i> for the church's commitment
to transparency and change.</i> <i> How is it that
even presented with evidence,</i> <i> allegations of a convicted
pedophile's continuing abuse,</i> <i> Father Luk Delft was not
immediately recalled</i> <i> from the Central
African Republic?</i> <i> Caritas Internationalis'
new head of safeguarding says</i> <i> the Salesians
did not contact them</i> <i> about the current allegations</i> <i> against Caritas'
former director, Luk Delft.</i> So you were only made aware
when we contacted you? - Yes,
and from what information you've shared with us, there are new allegations there
which need to be investigated, hopefully by the police or at
least internally by the church to take action
against Father Luk and any other person
who is responsible for Father Luk's behavior. - And in order
for that to happen... - We need to have
systems at work. We need to have people
that follow the systems, and when the systems
are not followed, there needs to be consequences. <i> - Yet again, the Salesians
appear to have</i> <i> withheld information
from others in the Church.</i> <i> We are still looking
to understand</i> <i> how this is possible,</i> <i> but the Vatican says
things are changing,</i> <i> and they are encouraged
by the new papal guidelines</i> <i> issued just this year.</i> <i> Father Hans Zollner
is on the Pope's Commission</i> <i> for the Protection of Minors.</i> <i> He was one of the few people
who agreed to talk with us.</i> - This is a very important
step forward in the development
of a culture of accountability. - Does this apply, though,
to the holy orders? Because the holy orders
will not directly fall under that bishop. - Now, the congregations
and the religious orders follow a different type
of structure and legal procedures. Many people think the Catholic
Church is a monolithic block with one CEO, who is the Pope,
and he presses a button, and every bishop
and every priest and every Catholic,
actually, salute and they follow what he does,
and that is not the case. In some cases,
in way too many cases, the religious superiors did not
follow through canon law. - But the fact is, they did not
follow through canon law, and there was no
oversight mechanism that made any note of that. So there are no sanctions. There have been
no sanctions for that. - If there are no sanctions
within the community, which is, in that case,
an order or a congregation, then there is almost
no possibility to do that. <i> - An order that is almost
untouchable, even by the Pope.</i> <i> Religious orders like
the Salesians are left to act</i> <i> with almost no
external accountability.</i> - When you put
the institution first and not the people
for whom you serve, then that is
the biggest problem. <i> - In the centuries
of its existence,</i> <i> this is the heart
of the battle</i> <i> within the Church.</i> <i> Could these new papal
guidelines make a difference?</i> <i> The way they're written
makes it unclear</i> <i> how they will even be applied
to religious orders.</i> <i> Survivors tell us
it's impossible</i> <i> to have faith in a church</i> <i> that isn't holding everyone
equally to account.</i> <i> Meanwhile,
they're the ones left</i> <i> to struggle with the hurt.</i> <i> ♪ ♪</i>