The BIZARRE Death of Ellen Rae Greenberg... Featuring Family and PI

hey guys welcome back to my channel as you may notice i have a new chair very happy about this because so many of you commented on my previous two videos saying that you love to see my pets in the background that you need them for comfort during these videos and my videos just frankly aren't the same without them so i have solved this problem also this chair is way more comfortable for me so i am very happy with it i hope it looks good i hope i am slowly improving my new setup a little by little each video and now you can see the dogs they're very well trained at this point they are normally around me when i film and they're normally around us when we podcast too so they're very quiet they have good camera etiquette yes you do so today's video is very exciting because it is a family involved video which means this family contacted me through my submission form that i have in the description box and asked me to take a look at this case and when i looked at it i definitely was very intrigued and surprised that this case isn't more well known today we're going to be talking about ellen greenberg's case and her family has sent in a few clips for us to share today in this video if you haven't seen any of my videos including family interviews then i will link a playlist below and of course i will still be telling the whole case as normal you know most of the details will come from me however i personally really think it helps to connect more with a victim to hear from their loved ones from their family members from their friends people who knew them best that being said their family and ellen's parents will likely be reading these comments so please keep it respectful these are real people and their families often do read comment sections and what people say online and words can really hurt so be careful when expressing your opinions and your thoughts just be kind and before we jump into the case i have an exciting announcement this year i am collaborating again with 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magic of i is a very small australian company really small team incredibly nice people so just a great company to support so check that out i'll have a link in the code in the description box and without further ado let's go ahead and get into this case so this is ellen ray greenberg also known as ellie she was born on june 23 1983 in new york city she's the only child of joshua who is a periodontist and also sandra greenberg who is a dental hygienist as a child ellen was a little girl she was very girly she was into all the girl type things she was very athletic when we moved from tennerfly new jersey to harrisburg and they had tryouts for softball and she was the second pick she's described as an incredibly kind and nurturing soul so it was no surprise when she went into teaching as a profession and people who knew ellen said that she just had an incredible energy about her her family often talks about her beautiful smile and also her deep laugh ellen also grew up very close to her parents and had a very good relationship with them ellen got into teaching because she loved children she had tried to do a speech pathology masters but it wasn't for her so she picked up her stuff moved to philadelphia and went on her teaching certificate her specialty in reading and she student taught in philadelphia while we were still in harrisburg ellen really loved children so she naturally was good at being a teacher and her students really liked her in fact i even read a few online posts from people who had her as a teacher and i bet some of you out there may have even had ellen greenberg as a teacher and i'm so sorry for your loss because she seemed like a wonderful person everyone just raved about her eventually ellen met this guy named sam who worked in the tv industry and he actually worked as a producer for nbc so a pretty big job after they were together for a little over three years they decided to get engaged and they were really really excited especially ellen she was really happy throughout this whole time of her engagement and they planned for their wedding to be in august of 2011 and ellen was really really excited about it ellen did eventually find someone that she loved and they got engaged his name was samuel goldberg as a father what can i say about a son-in-law uh there's a term in golf called a a son-in-law a son-in-law is when i hit the ball into the rough but i still can hit it far enough to get on the green so it's i feel like it's something i can work with once she got engaged i was hoping she would be happy i cannot tell you about my future son-in-law more that that my daughter approved my daughter loved her and she seemed to be a nice person she was excited about the wedding we were gonna have a big wedding at the hershey hotel which is a landmark hotel here in central pennsylvania very nice when he was going to be with a lot of people so it was january 26 2011 it was just a normal morning and while ellen was on the way to work she spoke to her mom and they had a pretty typical conversation they also talked about ellen's taxes because tax season was coming up and she just told her a few pointers and things she needs to get in line to make sure she's all good to go for taxes and that day was very snowy outside a huge storm had just come in it started to get worse and worse throughout the day and eventually the school was dismissed early for the day so this meant ellen would be going home early that day ellen helped all her students call their parents make sure that they had a ride home and then she herself headed out on the way home she stopped at a gas station and she filled up her tank all the way and then she went back to her loft she and sam were living in the venice lofts in lower northwest philadelphia so she got home sam also got home and the two of them were together until 4 45 when sam left the loft and went to go work out in their complex gym so sam went and did his workout and he was only there for about 30 minutes afterwards he walks back to their apartment but when he gets to the door he realizes it's locked this was really unusual i mean he was just at the apartment he knows that allen was home he thought it was strange and he does have a key he can unlock it but what was strange was that it was locked with a swing lock and this is something that you know they only did at night to keep themselves safe but ellen was home and she knew that he was at their gym and that he'd be back very soon so he thought this was weird so he texts her he says hello open the door what are you doing i'm getting pissed hello you better have an excuse what the you have no idea so eventually sam decided that this was just incredibly unusual and he started to worry so he went and talked to the security guard at their apartment complex who told him that you know i can't let you in there i can't unlock the door for you that's just against policy for safety reasons so sam decided the only thing he could do in this situation was break in and he actually brought the security guard with him and his name is phil hanton he was 67 years old and sam actually was though the person that broke down the door and when sam opened that door he was shocked to find ellen was on the floor of their living room and clearly was dead as soon as you walk into their apartment their kitchen is pretty much right there and as soon as sam looks over he sees that ellen is on the floor but she is propped up against the cabinet so her upper body is leaning back against the cabinet and she's kind of slouched down with her feet just splayed out in front of her and what was strange is in ellen's hand was a completely clean pristinely clean white towel of course they immediately called police and dispatch told sam to start doing chest compressions you know do everything he can to save her and he did start doing cpr however during that process he noticed that there was a knife still lodged inside of her and so dispatch obviously told him to stop sam stopped he was totally freaked out and when police got there they came in and took a look at the scene and could tell she was gone there was nothing that could be done and ellen was tragically pronounced dead at 6 40 pm there in her kitchen so pretty much right away the police treated this as a suicide but whatever happened it looked like ellen was about to start having some fruit before it happened there was a strainer filled with blueberries that she had just washed and she had also just sliced some oranges and they were just sitting there open and there were also two completely clean knives in the sink just lying there also after you know checking the premises and looking at all of the entry points they determined that no one had broken in and they also found no evidence that ellen herself had tried to leave at any point so their apartment complex has surveillance cameras at the main entrance but they do not have any in the hallway leading up to the apartment and after they interviewed people that worked there no one had noticed anything no one had seen anyone strange coming into the apartment they also interviewed you know neighbors and no one heard any type of disturbance other than sam loudly banging on the door to get in and i'm sure a lot of you are already wondering what she had exactly as far as injuries did she have any possible defense wounds and the answer is no and before i go further i just want to let you know that we will be talking about the condition of her body quite a bit it's pretty important for this case and some of you might find it disturbing there were no signs on ellen's body that she had tried to fight anyone off and there was also no blood found outside of the kitchen also they tested the knife and ended up only having ellen's dna on it also their apartment was on the sixth floor and there was no sign that anyone had like climbed up there and broke into the apartment that way there was no footprints in the snow so of course police are thinking suicide and a lot of people with the information i've given so far would think maybe this was a suicide but let's continue to go into things here so the day after ellen's death the medical examiner started their autopsy so there were eight stab wounds to her chest area and they ranged and how deep they went some of them only went .2 centimeters while others the one that the knife was still in went four inches deep she also had a two inch stab wound to her stomach and she had a two and a half inch gash on her scalp and this is what really makes it hard to believe that this was a suicide she had 10 10 stab wounds to the back of her neck there were also 11 bruises on ellen's body that were all over her right arm her abdomen and her right leg some of these bruises were new that looked like they had just been there in the last couple of days but some of them looked older like they had been there for a few weeks they also noted that these bruises could have come from the physical activity that she did at her yoga class when the autopsies were done injuries wounds were found on her body in different stages of healing that could only have been done by an abusive person detectives said they were the wounds of yoga or pilates ellie never took yoga or pilates how could he possibly say that so at the end of the autopsy the medical examiner actually ruled this a homicide now what's crazy is no one from the medical examiner's office or the police station ever contacted ellen's family her parents josh and sandy found out about this news that this was declared a homicide by the medical examiner from their friends who had seen it on the news that type of thing is just so frustrating i understand communication fails happen all the time but with something like this how can every single last detail not be clearly communicated to the family members of a victim it's just it's trash to me allen's parents were just absolutely devastated by the news of alan's death they just could not believe that it was even possible that she could have committed suicide the greenbergs held ellen's funeral in the beth l temple in harrisburg and when they were there josh ended up telling a bunch of their friends and family that her death had been ruled a homicide obviously people hearing this friends and family are really really upset concerned and hoping that the answer is the truth comes out so once this case was ruled a homicide the philadelphia homicide unit decided to step in and take a look at the case further they were able to look at sam's key fob records and track exactly where he went they were also able to compare his timeline that he had given them to security videos that they had and after they did that they said that everything that sam had said matched up it checked out also the security video showed that no one unauthorized exited or entered the complex during the time of ellen's death so then only a few days later on january 29th 2011 the police announced that even though the medical examiner had ruled this a homicide they were still going to be looking at this as a suicide and they were looking into ellen's background and her mental health history and when they looked more into her background and talked to family and friends and just kind of got an idea of what her life was like at this time they found that a month or two before this happened there was a big change in ellen's demeanor her parents claimed that ellen was usually very bubbly she was very friendly she was very warm but lately she was very shut down and she was very anxious they said she always seemed to be worried about something that she was extremely unsettled and when they would ask what exactly was wrong she would just say that she was stressed out about her job so they interviewed some teachers that worked with ellen and asked her if she seemed really stressed out with the job and everyone said that she didn't seem any more stressed out than any other teacher in the building was like teaching is a stressful job but you know ellen seemed to love her job she loved the kids she worked with so everyone at the school was really surprised she was getting up and going to work every day functioning but stressed but then they found out that ellen around this time had been telling her parents that she wanted to quit her job and she actually asked them to move back into their home with them in harrisburg they wanted to ask her if there was anything else that was causing her to be upset like this but she just said she was stressed out and she wanted to come home after a while she talked about coming home and leaving her job in philadelphia as an elementary school teacher we were very upset about that i was upset about that because as a father i didn't want her to walk away from a job that she could lose and not have to be on her record that she walked away from her job they thought this was odd especially because she was supposed to be getting married that august she was even working on save the date cards i mean the wedding was going forward and according to ellen everything was good with sam even though she wanted to come home ellen was still planning to go to have the wedding she just sent out the hold the date cards i knew something was different in my daughter she wasn't the same she was just different i can't put my foot on it i don't have experience in psychology or psychiatry and i don't have enough to say but i knew that something had changed her parents were still really concerned they said that this seemed to be a big change in ellen and they wanted her to see a psychiatrist so that's when she ended up going to see dr berman so we ellen and i made a deal ellen would go see a psychiatrist because i also thought things had changed in her personality i didn't know what but i think this whole thing was some sort of change and she saw dr ellen berman i think for three visits the progress they were making seemed good allen seemed happier um dr berman in her notes which we have copies of said that ella was not suicidal we also now have dr berman's diagnosis development having a a adjustment disorder with with anxiety this is not something that you'll commit suicide over she had blamed her her feelings of going into home on her job that causing her anxiety but after her death when ellen job was taken over by another teacher that teacher could find nothing wrong in ellen's lesson plans or what have you her book in keeping everything was immaculate she cared about the children sadly i'm sure many of you can relate to ellen in this situation i know myself i have struggled with depression anxiety mental health is a very hard battle to fight and sometimes it can feel like you're fighting alone so dr berman ended up putting ellen on a few different medications for the issues that she was experiencing she was on the anti-anxiety drug klonopin a very common antidepressant called zoloft ambien which is a sleep aid and xanax which is another anti-anxiety drug and these drugs do list suicidal thoughts and behaviors as possible side effects but it should be noted that only klonopin and ambien were found in ellen's system at the time of her death and there were no other drugs found in her system nothing recreational or anything that she was taking that wasn't prescription nothing like that now some have definitely theorized it is a big topic of conversation that maybe these drugs caused ellen to do this and the biggest one that is brought up for this is definitely zoloft i am not a doctor i don't feel like i should be giving any personal opinion on zoloft i myself have been on antidepressants but i will say that i've heard of many many cases where they have considered zoloft a possibility as to why someone did something or harmed themselves or harmed someone else it's always brought up whether or not it actually is a reason why these things happen i am not sure i just wanted to share that information and i also wanted to make it clear that ellen's parents do not believe this is the case and either do experts that you know are on their team also they make the point that ellen was looking forward to her future at the time she was planning a wedding you know she did have a lot to look forward to and she said she was happy with sam however we don't always know what's truly going on and it's proven over and over again that even if someone seems okay or planning for the future or excited that sometimes they can experience suicidal thoughts or commit suicide i'm not saying that that's the case here i'm just saying that that is possible and i don't want to be like oh well she wasn't acting suicidal or she was planning for the future therefore she definitely couldn't have committed suicide and i'm not saying that is true in this case i just wanted to say that i think it is commonly misinterpreted that if someone seems okay then there's no way that they could have still committed suicide you know some people don't show signs the way that others do just wanted to put that out there also after they looked through her phone and her personal records they didn't find anything suspicious there you could say but to me and to so many others into allen's family it's the physical evidence that makes it so hard to believe that this could have been a suicide it's obviously very hard i mean the door was locked and it was locked from the inside it happened in a very short period of time you know sam had just seen ellen alive there's no video of someone coming in and out so you really start to think suicide but what gets me is the physical evidence she has stab wounds to the back of her neck several that are to an area that just do not seem to align with suicide first of all i think most people can agree that stabbing yourself in the back of your neck would be extremely difficult to do and it is also extremely uncommon and just unlikely i looked it up and i found that about one to three percent of suicide attempts are by stabbing and normally the actual mortality rate for these types of suicide attempts is very low i think we can all agree that it's just a bizarre way to end your life if that's really what happened and it seems weird to stab yourself multiple times i hate to be graphic but wouldn't you just stab yourself in an area that you knew was for sure gonna do it not torture yourself it doesn't make sense but the police believe that it was a suicide and even after the medical examiner's report they said this is a suicide and they believe that these smaller shallower puncture wounds were just tests by ellen so detective john mcnamee suggested hiring an outside neuropathologist to review a portion of ellen's spinal cord to determine if it was damaged by any of the wounds to the back of her neck and this is important because if the wounds to the back of the neck damaged her spinal cord to a certain point she would not have been able to make the final stab into her chest which they determined that that was the one that killed her and the neuropathologist who conducted this exam told the police that the spinal cord was hit but that the cord was not severed so they essentially came to the conclusion that this caused ellen to go numb which makes the idea of her stabbing herself in other areas more believable this could have allowed her to repeatedly stab herself without feeling as much of the pain and because of the latest findings and the police report medical examiners ended up reversing her manner of death and changed it to a suicide and again ellen's poor family found out about this through the media the police didn't even bother to call them i just don't understand how that can happen and they were absolutely shocked and devastated by this and they still believed there was just no way that ellen did this to herself that she stabbed herself in the back of the neck that she stabbed herself so many times i mean if she really did this that means she stabbed herself 20 times so her family doesn't believe it and i completely understand why they feel that way so after thinking about it for months and after you know just processing their grief the greenbergs decided that they needed to fight for their daughter and they launched their own quest for answers they ended up purchasing ellen's autopsy which i didn't realize you even had to purchase an autopsy but they also purchased photos from the autopsy and photos that they took of her body at the scene and photos from the medical examiner's report and they sent everything to a man named cyril west and he's a forensic pathologist in pittsburgh who is known as the one who challenged the single bullet theory of the john f kennedy assassination which is very very interesting that they went to him i've heard his name before and when he looked over all the reports he was shocked to find that ellen had so many stab wounds i mean that's just the craziest part it's one thing to stab yourself that is very rare but to have so many stab wounds including the ones on the back of your neck that's what really struck him as incredibly odd and after looking at everything he just said i don't understand how they could have ruled this as suicide and that's how i feel maybe it's possible that it's a suicide yes i agree that it's possible but i don't think you can say without a doubt that that's what it was one disadvantage that they had is the detectives wouldn't allow him to have a copy of their files so who knows what other information could have been useful for him in there and the greenbergs also hired a private attorney who had experience working with police being difficult he's a civil rights lawyer named larry krasner and he believes that there are substantial questions that remain unanswered in ellen's death and in may of 2012 he organized a meeting with the greenbergs with the police and also with the representatives from the district attorney's office in an effort to get the investigation reopened but sadly nothing came out of this meeting they just kept going in circles and could not seem to agree the family was mostly frustrated because they really wanted to at least have the records that the police had i don't understand why families don't just get everything that is available they should but their family had to file a public records request to get her files and at first they were turned down which is incredibly disappointing but eventually the police did allow them to look at the files but what was so frustrating is they didn't allow them to make any copies they had one chance to sit down and look at it they couldn't take any pictures they couldn't write anything down you know they had to just absorb as much as they can medical examiner and his office and the police and the district attorney at the time and the attorney general have fought us to get to the truth about my daughter i have a special place for the attorney general because i feel he had let us down but as the father of a victim of a homicide i think he will he will always wear the stain of this terrible conclusion that he's drawn and he's putting out to the public that he did a thorough examination and this was a suicide i can't believe this i find it very difficult and i will never forget that he did that so at this point the greenbergs are feeling incredibly frustrated the whole community behind the greenberg family is just feeling like maybe there's no hope but then luckily they ended up finding someone else to work with this is tom brennan i'm the lead investigator in the elgin ray greenberg case and he is a retired 25 year state police veteran and former chief and he decided to work for the case for free so he looked at everything and one thing that he brought up that was very interesting was it's not a done deal when someone doesn't have any defense wounds it doesn't mean that it is definitely suicide he brought up that he had worked on several cases or had even heard of other cases where someone was stabbed to death but they did not have any defense wounds whatsoever he said it's specifically known as something called a blitz attack which is where you attack the victim with such surprise and so fast that they barely see it coming they barely know what's happening someone comes after you comes up to you and starts stabbing you and stabs you from behind and you can't you can't defend yourself and i think the police term for that is a blitz attack that's what our consultant tom brennan called told us the name of it was and he's a former state trooper well decorated and in fact he's called the legend here in central pennsylvania also the crime scene photos showed a stream of blood running horizontally down ellen's cheek this was actually going from the side of her nose down her left cheek to her ear but if you remember her body was found sitting upwards she was leaned up against the cabinet so how would that motion happen it would mean that she would have had to be lying down at some point in 2015 a philadelphia homicide prosecutor named guy d'andrea reviewed ellen's entire case file and when he looked through the file he said that he could not find a neuropathology report so he requested one from the police and the medical examiner's office and get this they said it either could it be found we just lost it or it just doesn't exist meaning we didn't do it but this was extremely disappointing for everybody because this is a very important report int andrew is now in private practice and he has reviewed the case and if you go to oxygen or you talk to guy you'll find out what he thought was wrong with the case also they found out that the medical examiner did not even have one on staff at the time of ellen's death but they did have someone that could work on the spine but there was no request for them to look over ellen's spinal column at all so there's still the question of whether or not the stab wings to the back of ellen's neck severed or damaged her spinal cord and even though the prior medical examiner said that they didn't which would allow ellen to keep functioning possibly continuing to stab herself while she's numb allen's family just has a really hard time believing them so then tom brennan that police officer that was working for them for free ended up finding out that they had a piece of ellen's spinal cord saved at the medical examiner's office so he got in contact with forensic pathologist wayne ross to examine it and he concluded something completely different than the first pathologist he said that one of the stab wounds penetrated ellen's cranial cavity and severed the cranial nerves and brain and as a result she would experience severe pain and she would have been impaired severely if not completely have lost her consciousness at that point and he also reported that there were signs of strangulation uh there was a stab wound in her in an upward direction into her skull that severed her spine and damaged her brain which would make her unable to do these things 20 stab wounds tend to the back one of which severed her spinal column in an upward trajectory imagine how hard it would be not just from a mental standpoint but a physical standpoint to thrust a knife into your body the knife that was found in her chest was with her left hand ellen was right-handed in addition to this henry lee who testified for the defense at o.j simpson's murder trial also reviewed the medical examiner's files and he concluded that the number and types of wounds and blood stain patterns observed are consistent with a homicide scene but of course that leaves us with the question of if this was a homicide how did the door end up latched like that this was a big latch that you can only laugh from the inside it's so confusing however tom brennan brought up the fact that there are tons of videos online showing various methods of manipulating swing bar locks from the outside so that it's possible for someone to be able to lock the door from the outside also her stab wounds were through her clothes which is not typical from people that do take their own lives through stabbing normally they will lift the clothing item up however one thing that i have to note here and it's crazy that the medical examiner missed this at first they were the ones that said that there was nothing on her phone or her computer that was concerning or a red flag but there definitely was they ended up having some computer forensic experts look at her computer and they found some pretty disturbing things they found the search terms quick suicide painless suicide and suicide methods the only evidence that i can think of that can say this was a suicide was apparently on ellen's computers there were searches for painless suicide in fact that was the main basis of the attorney general when the case was thrown up there when the attorney general got the case i was being represented by a former attorney general number one they had a meeting meaning the attorney general's people who were former people in philadelphia so they were just re-examining their own case which i'm sure would have a bias number two they said things that were impossible that they had examined the computers well they came on the case in 2018 and the computers were locked up from 2015. and when the police were asked to know how they could have missed something like that they basically said that they didn't find the analysis in the da's file so they cannot say if anyone police or prosecutor ever even looked at it so basically the greenbergs are dealing with incredibly bad police work i don't trust the philadelphia police at all i don't think very much of them i think they have fought us every which way to prevent us from getting to the truth or what i think is the truth or was their original truth by that i mean the original medical examiner diagnosis of the cause of matter of death was a homicide we did offer the attorney general josh shapiro all the mountain of evidence of experts we had and evidence we had to show that this was a homicide he declined he declined him to speak to the experts about this they also looked into allen's texts and ellen had texted her mom on january 8th saying i'm starting the med i know you don't understand but i can't keep living with feeling this way nine days later ellen also texted her mom and said kalonapin helped thank god her mom said so happy for you she said me too oh my god and the day before ellen's death sandra texted her and said you need to see a professional and ellen replied okay i'm trying just scared a bit for everything so as time went on the family still got no definitive answers on pretty much all of their questions in october of 2019 the family filed a civil lawsuit against the philadelphia medical examiner's office and the pathologist that conducted that first autopsy and they were hoping to get the medical examiner's office to change their rolling from undetermined to homicide they also believe that the medical examiner's office was basically pressured into agreeing with the police and changing their finding to undetermined the police coerced dr osborne to change that to a suicide but that is not the police's job the job of the medical examiner is to determine the cause of manner of death and even the journalists covering this story commented in the paper that this is a rare occurrence when the police do not support the medical examiner's opinion to this day their lawyers and everyone on their team and of course their family just says it's not possible that ellen gave herself 20 stab wounds to them and i think to so many others this just does not make sense also one thing that they pointed out in their lawsuit is it turns out that ellen had two types of wounds from knives some of them are from a smooth knife and some are from a serrated knife experts on the case argue that especially the wound on her head seems to definitely be from a serrated knife and the rest are from the smooth knife so they think that there were two knives involved so there's just plenty of questions that need to be answered they argue that since that other knife is not anywhere to be found that someone could have disposed of the knife and of course we have the question of sam i'm sure a lot of you are wondering what do they think of sam well the family really likes sam they really liked him in the beginning they had good impressions of him they have still talked to him and sandy actually said she has brought it up to him and she's never straight up accuse him of anything but every time she ends her conversation with him she says i know my daughter's death was not a suicide and she said there's always this awkward moment of silence also sam has never done any interviews he really has stayed very quiet and i'm in no way blaming sam or seeing that it's him all are innocent until proven guilty of course and he is not considered a suspect but recently in may of 2020 some more details have come out about sam and how he reacted to everything on the day of as i said earlier sam claimed that when he was kicking down the door that the security guard phil was with him however it turns out phil said he never left his desk that day he was not with sam when he kicked down the door and another thing that phil ended up telling the police was that sam was wearing boots that day not sneakers which is weird because he supposedly had just come from the gym he said he went to the gym he said who do you know that goes to the gym with timberland type boots on it was also discovered that sam had called two other numbers before he called 9-1-1 he had called his parents and he also called his uncle who is an attorney and they were on their way to the scene before emergency services even were which oh my gosh i can't believe that that's a huge red flag to me and that reminds me of the christian andreaki case also there are reports that during the 911 call sam was incredibly calm which i'm not saying that is a reason that someone is guilty some people do act calm or they're in shock and they seem calm but also when sam was asked to start cpr he said do i have to and when he realized that there was a knife inside of her he said hmm she must have fallen on it and once the death was ruled a suicide they really weren't able to make him come in and do any more interviews or make him participate in anything because it's a suicide another thing that they recently have put out is that there was blood on ellen's ugg boots that day which makes them believe that she was standing when she was first attacked also they believe that since there was such little blood at the crime scene that maybe someone had tried to clean the crime scene before the police arrived and what's so frustrating is there was never a luminol test performed so we have no way of knowing what blood could have been wiped up or cleaned also it was found and announced recently that the door was not actually kicked down in fact the only damage that was found on the door and lock was a missing screw on the lock and some would damage the door where the lock is screwed in also this screw was never found and there were no wood pieces from the door found either so a lot of people think that someone picked up the screw and picked up the other wood pieces and it was also discovered that sam's uncle and his cousin returned to the crime scene the day after they came back after they'd already been there the day up and they grabbed ellen's personal laptop sam's laptop ellen's work laptop and her cell phone before police had their hands on it the computers were probably not good evidence the computers were removed from ellen's apartment by the fiancee's uncle sam is now in his late 30s he's actually gotten remarried and he's a father of two now he lives in new york and like i said he remained in contact with the family for a year or so following ellen's death but eventually that communication completely dropped off his last communication with ellen's parents was that he had moved on and that he was getting married so right now the family is waiting on the state to hand over the file on ellen's death and they are also trying to get their hands on the surveillance footage from the apartment complex like i said earlier you'd think it'd be so much easier for families to get these things you should have a right to these things and another thing they haven't gotten their hands on is sam's 9-1-1 call which i feel like could really tell them a lot i mean if it was public it could tell all of us a lot alan's family is so heartbroken her parents just want answers so bad and i can't imagine not knowing what happened in a situation like this i mean the difference between suicide and homicide is so huge and i just can't imagine being them i have so much sympathy and i feel so badly for her parents having to wonder what happened to their daughter to feel like they're not getting support from sam who was supposed to be her life partner it's just all incredibly sad and their family feels like the case just hasn't gotten enough attention so if you are able to go and follow their facebook page that is one thing that they have really asked for they need more attention they need support and especially around this time of the year it's hard you know they're coming up again on the anniversary just having the holidays without her i'm sure is beyond difficult it's almost 10 years since she's been gone no more birthdays no more thanksgivings no more july 4th no more anniversaries in the interest of supporting ellen you can follow us on facebook at justice for ellen i want the court matter and cause of death change to homicide we're trying to work through the justice system and you can't imagine the amount of pushback we have gotten every step of the way we're asking for the authorities to look at the evidence just look at the facts also they have a petition that they would love for you to sign so i will link that below as well i know a lot of you guys are going to have different opinions i know there are plenty of people that believe that this was a suicide and you know you have your right to that opinion i just of course want to remind you that when expressing that please be kind please think about the family that this is someone's daughter that regardless of what happened it's beyond tragic and heartbreaking for them i just want to see nothing but support and love for her family in my comment section and i hope you guys will be of course like i said kind when you express your thoughts on this don't forget to check out the latest campaign for her justice with magic of eye there will be a link below of course you can use the code kendall 2021 to get that discount and for a percentage to go to her justice and to planetary rehabilitation and conservation this is my last video before the holidays guys so i wanted to wish you a good one a safe one i will be uploading one more video before the end of the year so look forward to that before you go make sure to give this video a thumbs up it helps me out a lot also make sure to subscribe and hit the notification bell if you want to reach out to me regarding a case there is a link in the description to do that and also my social media will be linked below i am at kendallrayonyt on everything i hope you guys are having a great day stay safe and i will see you next time you

Channel: Kendall Rae

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Rating: 4.9401474 out of 5

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Id: 0e64lerZmJw

Length: 44min 57sec (2697 seconds)

Published: Mon Dec 21 2020