The 7 Types of ADD and How to Treat - The Brain Warrior's Way Podcast

[Music] welcome to a TV brain type week we're so excited for this week ten and I often say we know more about a TD than we want to know and we are going to explore the seven different types of a TD at work at school and the impact at home so stay with us it's going to be fun and fascinating I want to start with up with the testimonial this is from my youtube channel but it's about our podcast so again Daniel Lantana well-spoken thank you for the real tangible help you have to offer laypersons and professionals from your experiences as well as your educated intelligence proven studies using the original medicine given to all like first responders are taught how to break the tunnel vision panic and anxiety so that's from laura-louise dr. so ATD yes i knew nothing about it duh before I went I thought it was just a joke but growing up I sort of had an ad deep brother who was so active beat me up all the time and he would get out of the house sometimes and my brother would find him in the gutter on the street when she put him in the corner he would actually start taking the wallpaper and he didn't do that well in school in fact because of him I had to change high schools because we were going to a college prep school Crespi in the San Fernando Valley and he wasn't doing really well so my mom after my freshman year carted me off to Birmingham High School which I was like so okay with because the accent girl girls out there but eight a fax at least 10% of the population and if you have a DD it affects probably 30% more right because it affects the people in your life because it affects their husbands their wives their teachers their bosses the police right yeah I wonder what the percentage of a DD is with the criminal population in jails it's very high yeah it's like 25 percent up to 50% in some studies but also when you look at head trauma it's also very high yeah yeah and so it's one of the unknown reasons why people's lives don't go the way they had hoped but talking about the types I think that part might confuse some people because there are different types and I think that's really important because not everyone behaves the same on a DD and I think that confuses people and I think that's where we start going it's nonsense right so I know when you scanned me I had a little bit of like sort of sleepy frontal lobes but they weren't extreme like someone like my mom but my behavior was not typical for someone with classic a DD so that's where you start going hmm how come some people behave very classic some people have some traits but not everything so do you remember our first date and I guess it's about 70% through the day you looked at me and you go you think I have a DD because I was drinking like almost two pots of coffee a day I work in a trauma unit I got up at 4 o'clock in the morning to work out but see to me getting out before o'clock in the morning to work out was a health like I thought I was that was a good thing right right so I'm not saying I graduated top of my class I mean I could do all the other stuff where you know I did really well in school I had all these other things that I was doing that you know financially I was fine I was actually more than fine so I wasn't late paying bills I you know what I mean all these are the things these classic traits that people have I didn't have ya know you have anxious a DD but waiting in line oh no I'm not patient with other people especially people with a DD I'm not patient at all so so is that a sign of a TD or being organized no I'm very organized with what I want to be organized with right but everything else your but I don't care but so before we get into the types let's spend this first podcast just talking about what a DB is and and you brought it up on the imaging work we do but also you know lots of other people have found that it's basically lower activity in the prefrontal cortex when you try to concentrate also goes with lower basal ganglia activity which usually means lower anxiety and it goes with lower cerebellar activity especially when you try to concentrate and the hallmark symptoms of a DD that applies to all of the types short attention span that's why it's called attention deficit disorder but not for everything it's short attention span for regular routine everyday things schoolwork homework paperwork chores and the thing that fools people this is often why it has a bad reputation for things that are new novel highly interesting stimulating or frightening people with a DD can pay attention just fine so those things have their own internal college isn't new and so how so ad if you are driven to be at the top of your class then that's the dopamine that causes you to perform but when it comes to closing a cabinet door or putting a wrapper way it's it's like you don't really care even see those don't really care and before you really decided you wanted to do well in school you struggled early on no actually as a young child I did as a young child but until I was in like third fourth grade then I started to get better right but now part of it was I was very honest and I was very young I was youngest in my class was the chaos and that's a very important point the children who are the youngest in their classes my birthday was the cutoff actually have a much higher incidence of abd because if you think about it you know say so you started when you were four and a half yeah I was December first it was there often kids in your class so they're 20% older than you right they've had more development and their brains have been more developed and so that all by itself increases the chances that you'll be diagnosed with a DD and on medication so these are often I'm like start kids late the later you can start them the better they will actually do in school in sports with friends and so on but let me finish how we diagnosis short attention span but not for everything and you know and I've known you for you know over 13 years if you are really interested your attention spans great if you're bored it's terrible I don't want to do it do what don't you dress the second one is a short attention span easily distracted and people who have a DD tend to see too much they tend to hear too much they tend to feel too much they can even tend to taste too much and become sensitive with what they eat but they have trouble sort of decreasing the noise around them and to stay focused on what they're doing it's like the world is not wise sometimes like two blasts rock music when we study yes because it's decreasing the other yeah it's also why they often like to sleep with fans at night it's why they sleep with the masks at night and sometimes in this guy sounds strange it's actually why sometimes people with a DD have trouble having orgasms why because what does an orgasm were quiet attention to freedom of distraction so you can focus on so you've given me a DD I said with the mask because you keep your light on reading short attention span we have to finish short attention span easily distracted and these are the kids who have sensory overload often and so as little kids they're taking their clothes off all the time tags Michael Jordan who said you know I still do that when I walk in the door I like ah okay I need to get into something like that does Michael Jordan actually constrict for Hannes help market tagless t-shirt yeah I despise that you know still we think he had a BD when he was probably still does but so close come close bother them tags bother them seems and socks bothered them they're just boys just having a hard time with some of these being a label for 82 meters with them seems like common sense it's all you have to put it all together and it has to interfere with your life short attention span distractibility disorganization so space you do better when someone helps you organize you just do but I say anything besides but I do find when someone's not alright I actually don't know what to say to that except I've lived with you for a long time and often they're disorganized for time they don't get how long things will take with them so they tend to do things That's not me at the last minute That's not me I'm the opposite and but that's because you have a subtype word talked about called anxious a TD and then procrastination is very common they put things off until someone's mad at them daughter and impulse control they'll often say things That's not me unless I'm in traffic and which which means they're often not good at listening so they'll interrupt you frequently and the the moment is what matters to them not five moments from now or ten moments from now it's now and that means they're spontaneous which can be a really great thing but it can also get them in to trouble where it's like oh I didn't really need to say that or I didn't really need to do that and soil questioned that so it can it be that people who are not quote unquote or diagnosed with a DD have a TD moments cuz there are a lot of times you say silly things and you're like it's like almost a joke in our house you sometimes say things you're like can people have a TD moments all of us have a TD yeah that's right it's if these five traits short attention span distractibility disorganization procrastination and impulse control issues if they really are the story of your life and they interfere with your life so all of us especially with social media and all the distractions in our society have a short attention span and are easily distracted but it's having these five symptoms over a long period of time that interfere with your ability and relationships with your ability it work your ability to manage your internal life that's when we say you have baby deep and when I first started our brain imaging work because I thought a TD well actually for a long time we've known that was at least two things it's the classic time where you have those five symptoms plus you're hyperactive or you have those symptoms and you're never hyperactive so we call that initially ABB with hyperactivity or a DD without hyperactivity when I started looking at stands in 1991 I went whoa it's way more complicated than that so stay with us and we're gonna begin to explain the seven types of abd [Music] you [Music] you [Music] you [Music] you welcome back we're in the middle of a DD brain type week how a DD can affect you at home in your relationships at school and at work but before we get to that I want to read one of the reviews for the podcast from Alicia Garcia I don't get how she manages this is Tana being a nurse getting a second degree black belt being a mom and being an inspiration to the world oh and having a DD according to you and she's energetic and happy about it instead of breaking down like who literally gets home from a demanding job and then decides to be Karate Kid well first of all martial arts is my therapy there's nothing more therapeutic than going and hitting stuff just FYI and you're gonna say that's because my a DD and I don't care it just feels amazing but I also have a lot of support but right we're a support team we are a team so it helps a lot so I think we need therapy because you have a sub type called anxious a DD and the anxiety you feel causes you to suppress some of the a DD symptoms but there's no question in my mind if somebody would have treated it early you'd be the chairman of the Department of Medicine at Harvard yes because you're so smart that having and what's even more important for you I think is how is being raised in a broken home by flaming and I love your mother flaming a DD yeah mother it's true and having a dad that was distant and depressed oh and just come back disconnected he wasn't there if you would have been raised in our home Lord only knows what would have done and you've done amazing and I married you which means I'm not trying to fix you you're my partner for life we often say right the only reason you're running is chasing me it's be clear nope the candid moment for one second because we're joking around in the last in the last episode I've actually often wondered um until I really started to understand how this works cuz I do feel like I actually do pretty well with my life I'm actually very happy with my life I'm I feel like I've accomplished a lot my favorite thing is being a wife and a mother out of all the things I do that's my favorite thing but I feel like I've done a lot I feel very accomplished but there are times that I wonder wow like I I feel like I did not really start to meet my potential until 38 years old right and I really didn't understand I was paying my bills on time I was graduating from college but I didn't even really know it wasn't struggle because I was so used to struggle my entire life was a struggle from the time I was little so you know what there's there's there's poster of this lion roaring and he's like I've been fighting to survive since I was a child like that's what I always felt like right and since you have your ATD treated how many books have you written well if you count the journal it's 10 but if you don't care so moving on actually this is a very important point nobody wants to be labeled right nobody wants hard to be gods of defective or abnormal but everybody wants a better brand and if we think of this as brain health rather than you have a mental illness you're just more likely to get hell one who does you want a better brain who doesn't why well here's a deal we all have something okay like every many people you know that don't have anything none okay so just embrace it like lean into it because here's the deal here's something that I want to just point out we just said my mom's flank got blaming a TD I mean from hell she's gotta be from hell um she's also one of the most amazing women I've ever met in my life right okay so this is a woman who didn't graduate from high school she was a 16 year old one away grew up in a really really difficult home really difficult situation she's also an incredible entrepreneur okay which tends to go with a DD so she didn't go to college didn't finish high school and she always said to me I have no choice but to start a business she didn't start one cuz she wanted to she started one because no one would hire her so she started a business because she was very strong-willed very intense and no one was gonna hire someone who didn't graduate from high school so she started her own business and she's worth more than what she's in the top what one or two percent of the country so the woman is a powerhouse and she's an entrepreneur and she's creative so we have to sort of pay some tribute to that well and many people who have a beedi are highly successful right so Terry Bradshaw has detergents his a DD Justin Timberlake has talked about his a DD C even but even even people they've met a guy that owns JetBlue right talks about his ad in the military it's it's getting it treated so that you can take the energy that you have and Channel and channel it and do the things you're really good at and farm out the things you're not really good right and that's a sign of intelligence thank you you just said it that was the thing I learned was I don't have to be good that's why I was joking in the first episode when you said you know you don't do this you don't do that you're not good at this part that I'm like cuz I learned I don't really care I don't have to be good at everything but I'm gonna focus on what I'm good at and I'm gonna find people to help me with the things I'm not that's the sign of intelligence so that's the sign of successful people chocolate so before we get too far off we have to dive into the types and then we can talk about each of these things with it so don't forget I want to come back to let's talk about when we get to that part why are certain people who seem incredibly successful like surgeons why are still many of them in certain fields why do they have a higher incidence of ATP so it tends to be trauma surgeons right and emergency room doctors right because they need they have low dopamine which I was a trauma nurse oh you're so funny they me excitement in order to be able to focus so high incidents among firefighters as well so when I first started doing imaging I found it wasn't one thing so there's classic abd that's type one it's what people think of short attention span distractibility disorganization procrastination impulse control plus they're hyper active they're Restless they're impulsive they have trouble sitting still while they're in class they're eating something just to do that just to like I've got to go fall asleep and so fall asleep in class is a very common thing but it's really it's the hyperactivity I have people say they can't sit through boring movies if it's not somebody's dying every three seconds okay really you just said that just because a bad guy has to die in a movie for me to be happy yes that's a whole psychological itself but so classic is the hyperactivity plus the attention plus the impulse control issues and though kids boys who have this are diagnosed early and they're medicated girls who have it are not so much diagnosed whereas we have gender bias but in this country that if a little boy is having problems the parents get very worried because they believe he's going to have to take care of a family someday and this can still be going on it still can't still be absolutely there's also this is not acceptable I didn't say I'm not acceptable listen to me if you're listening to our podcast this is not acceptable but if a little girl is having problems they think she's not that smart not acceptable they hope she marries somebody now oh my god don't even say rich I will seriously knock you off your chair don't don't say it I didn't say rich but it's that my my my my senator I remember when I was growing up you know I always thought I was going to college even though my dad nor my mom went to college but my dad told all of my sisters they didn't oh I was told the same thing by the way and and great in a lot of parts of the world that still goes on that there's gender bias and the reason I bring this up is boys are actually diagnosed five times more than girls but when you actually screen them for all the types of a DD boys have it more like twice as much as girls so girls remain dramatically under diagnosed because they tend to be more than attentive type which we'll talk about in a minute and they tend not to have as much testosterone so they are less of a behavior problem so they're less likely to bring negative attention oh yeah to themselves more fine and because of that girls also have a higher incidence of both limbic ATD and anxious AVD and so they don't get diagnosed so they are condemned to live a life of mediocrity oh and not get near their potential and they hate themselves for it because they know they could be better so self esteem is actually the difference between where you think you with your potential and where you are and so if you're close to where you are you feel pretty good about yourself but if you believe your potentials here but you're performing here you hate yourself and so girls are dramatically under-diagnosed and the most common way women are diagnosed is they have a hyperactive son and they raise their son here and when if it's a smart doctor and you really think a child has a VD in one form or another you begin to look at mom and dad and you go so who's got it and so Caitlin my third child to my door who we just had dinner with who's a great mom great mom and she had classic ATB from the time from before birth she was so active that aside her mother's womb we thought she was gonna be a boy but she wasn't and trying to hold her when she was a year old was like trying to hold a live salmon she was so active and she kept climbing out of her Klerk climbing out of her crib climb I'm like what are you doing I actually went and found a net that I put on top of the crib and every night I would zip her in as she would grab the sides of the rail in shaping to go to bed at night and so hyperactive you know I had a spiritual crisis because of this choice you know Catholics why they do this god only knows God probably don't even know is you know they bring children into church with them and when I was little I go to church there'd be seven of us sitting in a row with my brother bothering me and she was so bad in church is so active and blurt out the middle of us and I'd take her out and threaten her life and then I realized well that's a bad thing because she's not gonna go to church when she's older because you go to church get your life for it and and it was bad for business because child skytruss in the county and of your child's the worst one it's business but you're you're bringing up a very good point because so so think about that because we said we're gonna do this through the lens of home you know work whatever so so I have two two half-sisters and one of them behaved really well when she was young the other one was kind of a nightmare and so the one that was a nightmare basically got beaten she I didn't grow up with her she's my half-sister but but day I remember my stepmom breaking spoons over her my it's my dad I'm beating this child with a belt I mean she just would not listen I don't care what you did this kid was not gonna listen climbing out of her crib she was one of the worst kids I've ever seen um the other one stayed out of trouble when she was a little I'm not that changed when she was older but sure as little she was good so the parents not only felt a tremendous amount of guilt for losing their tempers with her which those kids can cause parents to lose their tempers um and everyone thinks so whether you should never lose your temper I've seen some of these kids cause parents loser but they do that purposefully right now it's not conscious right it's Pavlovian which means they're getting benefit from it and they don't know why they react so the classic ATD person child their excitement-seeking or conflict well there's a no they play this game called let's have a problem right they don't know they do it but if they have a bad morning at home right like mom screams and cries right threatens their life which happens every day then they have a good day at school right but if they have a good morning at home they often have a bad so I don't be an example so listen so the other thing is is it caused guilt with the other sister a lot of guilt growing up because she didn't get beaten okay so there's no causing problems for her but here's a really interesting thing that happened when she was 12 I remember when my dad was divorcing my stepmom and my stepmom called me she's like I cannot handle these kids can you please come take the younger one for the weekend and I'm like I'm her sister I was like ten years older than her but I'm like what I would you know it sounded weird to me but I'm like okay she needs a break so I remember I drove up there and I picked her up and she was pretty hard to deal with and she gets in my car I literally got three or four miles from the house where I picked her up and she started in with me the way she does with her mom I didn't say one word cuz I'm like 21 22 I'm not very patient didn't say one word and I scared the heck out of her cuz I guess I spun a u-turn and which in a very aggressive way drove back to the house slammed on my brakes got out the car threw her back out the partner went get out she was what I go get out of my car I'm not your mom get out I'm done and she literally was the best kid for the rest of the weekend I am zero trouble with her so you have to kind of wonder why did it stimulate her did it cuz she's scared of you she's not scared of me I didn't do anything to her are you kidding I did nothing to her yeah half the world is skill they're not I didn't do it my question is seriously I'm from a biological and psychological standpoint why does she listen when you when that happens when we come back we're gonna talk to the Bausman conflict seeking scary nature somebody who has a beedi stay with us [Music] we are having an ATV podcast talking about ATD types at work at home and at school we've talked about type 1 but we didn't talk about how to fix it or how to treat it we will in just a second this is from who let house wow what a wealth of complimentary information motivation and encouragement to live your best life dr. Daniel and Tana amen generously share an abundance of resources to both point you in the right direction and keep you on the path I think it's exactly like what we do and for so many people who have abb like we hope they find this fun and empowering and I just I love the story of you and your sister that when she was acting up but you did besides scare the heck out was immediately place boundaries on what was acceptable and what wasn't and the consequences of it were painful in that she loved you and wanted to spend time with you and realized if she was going to do that you would only tolerate good behavior and by increasing her anxiety you actually helped her behaved uh-oh so her parents yelling at her stimulated her but didn't increase your anxiety in an effective way cause what you're saying right then they were because she's used to that ineffective right at doing that and screaming is an ineffective way of stimulating people who have a TD in fact I teach all of my patients don't yell because if you yell they're gonna make you yell again they actually get addicted to the conflict so one it's bad for the parents who are yelling because they end up feeling guilty and because they get feel guilty they go into a cycle of guilt so which is I yelled I feel bad therefore I let behavior I let them do bad behavior or I don't deal with it because I feel bad that I'd explode it and then they do more bad behavior and you don't deal with it and then you they do more bad behavior and then you're scraped right where you beat them and the idea is stop screaming but consequences have to be big well they just need to be significant any not significant on the age and it fits perfectly with what we talked about with Jim Fey on parenting with love and logic that I don't do things for people who aren't nice to me and you modeled that perfectly with your sister she's acted I could maybe push on it a little more maturely if I had been older and had some practice but you were 21 right and you know you reacted in the moment right so people have classic ATD they have sleepy frontal lobes and stimulating those either with a higher protein lower carbohydrate diet with stimulating supplements like rhodiola and l-tyrosine ginseng or using stimulants like adderall by Vance concern oh I'm actually a huge fan of those for the right brain you're gonna see in a little bit it's not clearly not right for everybody and people just do so much better when you balance their brain but they also do better in jobs they love so they do better as emergency room doctors I've actually not met one classic ATD dermatologist yet to me there's no stimulation and rationale you're the idea of sitting in a cubicle like oh my gosh which is interesting I became a writer but I think it's because I loved the idea of being a mom so much so I learned how to channel that energy and do other things like martial arts to stimulate myself instead of you know but sitting for long periods of time doesn't and what do you say your therapy is hitting things right it's just the best all right so that's classic a DD and so in boys diagnosed early in school they're often troublemakers they're pushing against Authority all those people would say I have that and it'd work they have trouble sitting still they often make great salespeople because they go from things oh my gosh my mother you could say no to her 25 times it's like she has Teflon on she doesn't even hear you doesn't hear you she's gonna get that sale but doing their paperwork mm-hmm the IRS the IRS loves these people because they pay fines no which is why if you have classic agents at work they do because of the impulsivity if you have classic ATD it's really great to have and you run a business is great hire and executive secretaries a little more anxious it's not heavy right as a little OCD they don't roll the ball over thoroughly for you and then and this has been described a long time that wasn't me inattentive ATD so short attention span distractibility disorganized but they tend where classic 80 beers tend to be more extroverted inattentive ATD tend to be more introverted they have excessive daydreaming they're not hyperactive and said they may be a little hypo active and you know sometimes described as sort of a slug with little motivation and it impacts girls more than boys they still have this low activity in their brain but they get diagnosed way less because they're not notice because they are not troublemakers and although the classic a DD in girls this is how you diagnose it they're teenagers and they fall in love so they get the dopamine from falling in love and that wears off after two weeks and then they start fighting with the person they're attached to and because they're getting dopamine from fighting and the other person gets tired of that so they break up and then there's all this drama around breaking up and then two weeks later they find another guy or another girl and there's the stimulation from falling in love and then they fight and then they break up and if this is happening three four ten times a year that really is one of the indications of a beedi it's like anybody who's just like next they should be screaming yeah that's that's actually pretty unhealthy cycle you want to start paying attention to weight and you've seen that among a number of your friends I've seen that a mom and I'm among a number of Chloe's friends already yeah all right in a tenth of a TD we treated the same way we use stimulants or stimulating supplements a higher protein lower carbohydrate diet one of the best ways to treat a TD is intense exercise and often I remember I treated this attorney who had a TD and his office was just a mess and his assistant had a TD too so it was not a good combination but he had to exercise every day for a couple of hours so there's actually brand-new study you don't know this I just read it brand new study the perfect amount of exercise is about 60 minutes a day for women who exercise more than that there's not a longevity benefit it actually goes the other way now I do not stress now I do an hour but I used to do two because it's too much stress but a lot of people use exercise to either treat their two or ribaldry they're a beedi so when they get hurt they their life just falls apart oh because they're not medicating with serotonin and dopamine and the endorphins that you get from exercise I completely panicked when I got thyroid cancer and I had surgery I panicked that's how I knew there was something going on so the inattentive ATD people at work they're not getting stuff done and or it's still at the last minute and it really can negatively affect them and it can negatively affect their team type 3 is what we call over-focused a DD it's we have too much activity and a part of the frontal lobes called the anterior cingulate gyrus it's the brains gearshifter and then low frontal lobes in another part and so they have traits of being impulsive and distracted and compulsive so these are the people who have the ATD symptoms plus they're worried rigid inflexible if things don't go their way they tend to get upset they're argumentative they hold grudges they often get diagnosed as having oppositional defiant disorder so I always joke with Kaitlyn her first word was now her second her first short phrase was no way and her first long sentence was you can't make me do it so it's like classic we see over-focused a DD and children and grandchildren of alcoholics so there's a significant alcohol or drug history in your family history they often medicate themselves with alcohol to calm down exercise also don't these people also grab they do and it's perfect for them because exercise boost serotonin and dopamine dopamine right but they also can struggle with obesity because sugar boosts serotonin right and um some foods are common for yes and at at work these are the people that no matter what it is you say to them they argue with you and the sort of dog with a bone thing and they won't let it go even though it's in their best interest to let it go so we want you to be persistent and assertive but also in a way that takes into consideration the feelings of other people mm-hmm and so this type does well actually one of my first books I wrote 1994 is called healing the chaos within it's about children and grandchildren of alcoholics and how interventions to raise both serotonin and dopamine transform their lives in a good way so it used to be prozac and Ritalin was just miraculous for some of them and then you know since I went to more natural treatments will use 5htp and saffron to boost serotonin and rhodiola ginseng to help boost dopamine interest and exercise is amazingly helpful now they do better with a balanced diet type 1 and type 2 do better with a paleo diet or Atkins diet a higher protein lower carbohydrate diet this type you actually make them mean if you so interesting Chloe does not have she does not have a DD if anything she's kind of the opposite of a DD I'm she's a little more on the anxious side she tried to do at one point she wanted to do the ketogenic diet she thought it would help her focus with school she her anxiety just oh my gosh it was so hard to turn it off so hard to get her to just settle down with anything and her rigidity oh dear Lord so we we figured out she needs more carbs healthy carbs healthy carbs yeah all right stay with us we're gonna talk about four five six seven coming up you [Music] you about a DD type brain type week and how a DD impacts relationships work school Tana said we didn't talk about how classic a DD impacts relationships or inattentive in my book healing a DD there's a chapter called the games a DD people play and the first game they play is let's have a problem so unless it's treated properly they're looking for stimulation and you know they can find it in scary movie so you know why does saw the movie Saw exist but it's not just saw it saw two three four five six and 3d no it's odd why did your mother take you to scary movies when you're hills have eyes and silent scream when I was like eight and nine years old what is that and she's like well I didn't know so like they go after scary movies they go to the edge in relationships um and they can be conflict seeking and which means they play this game let's have a problem and and that wears out their partner it's like we're on vacation we're having a great time and why are you picking on me and it just happens over and over again and their partners get worn out so they can find stimulation and oh this is the most amazing relationship ever but then a couple of hours later change it into you did this you did that so let me ask you a question um because this is I think a fairly practical thing people might be able to take away so I know that was sort of my example growing up and I think learned behavior also happens chaos you start to learn that maybe that combined with some ATD of my own or whatever I thought that was normal like I thought that was just sort of normal in relationships I remember when I first met you I thought okay this is ridiculous he's like he's lying nobody's that nice and I kept waiting for the other shoe to fall right I kept waiting it took me like a year and a half before I trusted it and then I remember I was was going through therapy I'm like this isn't like nobody's that nice like he's trying to manipulate me somehow I remember thinking that and so over time I like dealt with my own stuff and I realize no he's actually nice he's that there are nice guys like they're really nice and so I sort of dealt with that um but the part that I want to point out is number one you have to recognize it right and recognize if you've gone through that if that's been your example it's not a crime to just go okay it just acknowledged it because you can't make it better unless you do but the other thing is you can I mean what having peace in your house is just so amazing but you can channel that energy if you know you've got that energy I know I'm a little like one of those German Shepherds that needs you know those working dogs that need to be worked a lot you always say if I don't have a project I'm dangerous you'll come home and I'll have half a like the back half of the house torn off order right I'll do something like shocking so so I'm just like that I know that about myself I accept that so what I do is I make sure that I'm engaged and involved in something that channels that energy martial arts for me is the perfect thing right writing books doing things like this the podcast I just know that I need that outlet so that I'm not bringing that into a relationship right I mean can't people do that learn to do that absolutely and I think the older they get especially if they're like you and they're introspective right I mean for somebody like you therapy is so helpful because you're bright and you think about it I want and you want to be better for someone where their problems are always somebody else's fault therapy's not that helpful right so therapy doesn't help everybody it helps a certain group of people and I think you know you've taken full advantage of it and when I've done it for me I take full advantage of it right we often say therapy is not for the weak person it's more the strong why not you're gonna see parts of yourself it's more you're just like what a strong person okay so classic ad D the restlessness can really impact relationships the interrupting so the other person doesn't is not able to cuz you know relationships require one time to listening and a lot of people have abd they're not good listeners cuz you know they're always afraid if I don't say what I'm thinking I'm going to forget it and because they get distracted easily classic and Edie I did an article once or men's health pays to be columnist for men's health and actually wrote a couple of feature articles for them and one was six women wrote about the best sex of their lives and I did the psycho analysis of it I mean that was like so yeah that's just like something I'm sure you'd that was so much fun for me going but as I was reading about these like wild experiences I'm like oh these are classic right it's like fun fun to write about these are not women I would ever do right because they're crazy life they will make you crazy right because it's hard for them to be settled right in they're gonna move on yeah relationship they're what we call Montaigne Bowles right you know right there's you need to explain what that means people are like what what are you talking about so actually did this study on monogamy and they actually did it on bowls bowls or little furry things they've looked like prairie dogs a little rodents and they're prairie bowls which if they made with another prairie Bowl that's it that's it eighty percent of the time even if their partner dies they're not they're the only Bowl they want and then and they mourn right and they mourn then then there's another one called Montaigne bowls that are one-night stand artists if they have sons alone you're with another Montaigne ball it just doesn't matter one bit if that's the bowl they have sex with the next right and so you have to sort of know who you want Judit your values need to line up whatever they are species because that could be dangerous and people classic adde more likely to be but maybe they don't want to be that and maybe it's the 80 DS well and if you treat the ad they maybe they can be so much better at work more focused in there because you just got done saying talking about self-esteem and maybe that person hates themselves for that but they keep repeating the cycle because they don't know what else to do so I'm just bringing something up that they don't know the underline right and they because I know we see people who hate themselves right so so it's going to type four which is so classic ad D in a tenth of a TD over-focused ad d tap type four and I described this very early on with our imaging work is one I called temporal lobe ATT so you have temporal lobes are underneath your temples behind your eyes there are very large structures in the brain and they house the amygdala and the hippocampus and when they're hurt either from a head trauma or toxin or you're born that way mood instability irritability temper problems learning problems dark thoughts and I would get all these kids who had rage attacks and people thought it was bad parenting but when I scan them they had trouble in their temporal lobes and I actually found that anti-seizure medications just balance them out now I often had to treat their ADB as well but this is a very important this is important because it's I mean with with children this is just tragic but think about this with a partner of all the types of a TD you've talked about so far from the from my perspective from a female perspective I don't know about from a male perspective um that would be the hardest one to deal with because the others are annoying irritating might not put up with it that one flat out dangerous and that's just not gonna happen it can temper yeah why not but but if you if someone behaves that way toward me it's not gonna happen like that the temper the outrage the violence ya know that could be a recipe for disaster so this one wife nu tent I think for bad Annie buddy it would be but you're gonna label them as bad as my point right when in fact they're hurt right and making that chef is is dramatic so how you often have to treat so you treat the temporal lobes and we often do it with an anti-seizure medicine so lamictal neurontin depakote trial up dole topamax sometimes and as it balances it you often will then add either stimulating supplement or medication and it can help so much so if someone's dealing with this what does give them an idea how long it would take to get this treated before they see some kind of result and what can they do in the process because that's that's kind of a scary one to me so what can they do a couple of weeks so get seen if you suspect a scam so you know you have a map up right that's why we scan people to mouth and and then get on the right treatment the best diet is a low carbohydrate higher protein and fat diet the ketogenic diet has actually been found to treat seizure disorders I think of these almost like I'm storm going on in someone's brain where they can be really great and then someone pokes them and they explode and if they have it and they drank it's really the prescription for disaster so higher protein lower carbohydrate diet sometimes neurofeedback can be really helpful sometimes hyperbaric oxygen put the brain in a healing environment but so many of the best stories I have or temporal lobe EDD kids that on the right treatment or adults because you see that transfer me yeah that's transformation it says very important subtype type 5 is limbic ad D that a combination of both ad D and depression and they don't do well with stimulants in fact stimulants often will work but then they'll rebound it'll cause them when it wears off to cry and they are people classic ATD people often really happy you know once they get a bad thought well they got distracted from him they went on to another thought let make a DD people see the glass is half-empty so it's almost like they always have this low-grade depression so tend to be more socially isolated more lonely negative little bit like Eeyore and they do better with Sammy a stimulating supplement or with wellbutrin so wellbutrin often miraculous for this type and then you know early on I actually didn't want to see this type I didn't describe it for I think five years because I would see it but it didn't fit my idea of a DD so people don't see things they're not looking for and it was they didn't have low activity in their brain action had high activity in their brain the whole thing was overactive we call it the Ring of Fire oh I've seen these kids who yeah and you know our friend Jared just transformed his life it's their brains working way too hard and you give them a similar action right you give them a stimulant act if you give type over focus to stimulant they get more over focused you give temporal-lobe a stimulant you may actually trigger the violence or trigger hallucinations the limbic people can make them sad the ring of fire people they can just get more angry OCD vile had one boy who became suicidal on it and so the ring of Fire's a dd+ really bad sensory integration things like the world comes out them way too quickly sometimes they have tics often can go with Tourette's and sometimes it's due to an infection like a panda syndrome right we can talk about so so if I could just describe Jared from the perspective of a mother who had a little child um I didn't want my child around him which is also hard for a mom to say right because your your you have empathy for the other mother you know that that's painful to another mother but I was afraid for my daughter to be around him because she was younger than he was I'm significantly younger and he was just this like whirlwind that would come into a room and you just knew something was kinda like go wrong he was just never very happy and and if he did throw go into a rage it was gonna like punch a hole in a wall or something so it's this like this sort of out of very out of control and it wasn't bad parenting I knew it wasn't bad parenting it was like what is happening and it's like this like it almost creates the sense of fear and people around and he'd been tried on six medications and they wanted to put him on an anti-psychotic right when your friend Christine saw us on television right I hadn't seen her for a while sort of part of it and then she reached out to us and we took him off all of his medication put him on supplements changed his diet and it transformed his life like significantly but it's a scary thing to see now the last time and so Ring of Fire effects you in school you're in the principal's office all the time you're not able to focus you've been diagnosed with a DD you've been on a stimulant and you failed it and there's a dominance thing and yes and so it work you're often seen as a troublemaker and in relationships you tend to go through relationships because a lot of your partner is unhappy about your behavior now the the last type in it's the type that gets diagnosed the least because they cover for it and that's anxious abd where they have the ATD symptoms but because they have a higher level of anxiety as opposed to most kinds of ATT where the lower level of anxiety in fact maybe not nothing xiety this type their basal ganglia is really busy and their frontal lobes are sleeping and so they have the core adv symptoms plus they can be anxious and tense and predict the worst and so their level of anxiety keeps them on track but it's at a great expense so these would be the ICU nurses the emergency room doctors the trauma surgeons the anxiety kept them getting them through nursing school and medical school but at a cost that it took them longer and with sort of greater effort okay so I think I'd be interested it didn't take me longer that wasn't my problem um but when I went through my and we said this in a different podcast when I went through that really severe depression because no one knew what was going on in my brain they put me on Prozac faster sleepy frontal lobes right I didn't it wasn't anxious anymore you weren't anxious anymore that's inhibited which was not necessarily a good thing because we all need because they society is what was the anxiety is what was actually sort of keeping me on track and so I think that if anything that was when whatever ATD signs I had emerged fortunately took myself off of it pretty quickly but I just knew I wasn't being me I'm like what is this like I don't that was never how I like thought or be well that's why we really believe in first do no harm what's the least toxic most effective treatment and for you if they would have treated your thyroid effectively right and then treated the AED you likely wouldn't have gone through that wouldn't have gone through that but now you know that you can share this information for others so so I have a book healing ATD it's old it's one of my favorite books severes I just have to say thank you if you want to learn more about this we also have a course the ten and I did together called healing a Dede at home in 30 days and we like it because it's like thirty five to ten minute videos on what are the things you can do right away so you can get the book anywhere where great books are sold or on brainmd comm you can get the course at Amon University calm stay with us use the code podcast ten to get a 10% discount on a full evaluation at Amen Clinics calm or on our supplements at brainmd health calm 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Published: Fri Feb 15 2019