The 50th Barbara Walters Special (1988)

I know you don't like personal questions and I will honor that so I will start by asking you something very simple and easy C to answer okay would you tell me all about your first sexual experience you think you're a tall dude just a surface fella just okay did you dance on top of all I danced um engage are you bisexual yeah I asked first now we should be good yeah I didn't want to turn into any of my clothes I feel it I what I am today where I'm going today has been based mostly on instinct animal Winston because I don't care I got magic I found the magic word I don't care it all is that you don't sign autographs well I'll tell you when I stop signing I was standing at a urinal at one of your teachers in junior high school they voted you the student most likely to end up in the electric chair yes but I thought I was popular whether that hospitals don't have to know me maybe I don't like you okay how about that I'm not good not because you're black I think I look fabulous it makes me laugh to see myself I get a kick out of me women scare the hell out of you yeah yeah their dick since the middle D and diamond party I want a simple little diamond ring call me a young black man with some bucks what can I say well this is it our 50th show you'll see Liz Taylor before and after Eddie Murphy in Bette Midler then and now the last interviews with John Wayne and Bing Crosby you'll see Jimmy Stewart sing here Richard Pryor a lie and watch Clint Eastwood flirt the most beautiful homes the biggest laughs the tenderest moments the celebrities talking about sex and stardom love marriage and themselves will also let you in on thing that we couldn't then like what happened before and after the cameras rolled what shocked me more than anything what mistakes we made and believe me we made them I hope you'll find it lots of fun but at the very least it will be a great retrospective of my hairstyles stay with us the 50th Barbara Walters special brought to you by mercury where comfort and control are one brought to you by Vanderbilt by Gloria Vanderbilt lash out extending mascara and performing preference by L'Oreal and tot champagne experience Cox tonight [Music] this terrible opening is the way we started our very first special with December 1976 just two months after I came from NBC doing the Barbara Walters special governor Carter do you pinch yourself sometimes and say my lord I'm going to be President well that's how it all began the plan was to do a mixture of political leaders and Hollywood celebrities the words of the weary still ring in my ears those stars will never sit down for an interview they said and they certainly won't let you into their homes they will never talk to you period but one did one two three one watch close in - progress - everything I'd ever heard about it was true the ultimate professional she worried about everything every question I toss every word she uttered every note why here something's the whole fall is in the wrong key he's such a talent and it hot so vulnerable if I could be under anything it was our first glimpse at the flip side of stardom people can be very cool people coming in back of me saying hey your nose is not that big are you Barbra Streisand you look like Barbra Streisand hey hey it looks pretty good and personal you look better you know what I mean it's they treat performers sometimes as if they're not alive as if their piece of celluloid on a screen I also learned something in that first show you might call Walters law anything that can come back to haunt you will for example I never would have asked President Elect and mrs. Carter about their sleeping arrangements if the Fords had not when they were in the White House flagged about bringing their own double bed this led to the following ghastly exchange you're not embarrassed I am well then okay if you're not I don't want you sleeping double bed a twin bed those Devils in oh yeah sometimes makes people stay with their beds much more confident television I don't know whether you want to go on to this day I am still occasionally reprimanded for that moment and as for the way I ended the conversation with the president well I'll never hear the end of that be wise with us covenant be good to us and that was just the beginning now 12 years 120 guests and 50 shows later we are still here we've changed them over the years but controversy still occasionally follows us and I guess that's not so surprising because our aim after all if they have you see these people as they really are and make them think about things they may never have thought of before take Richard Pryor for example this was our first interview in 1979 and it was a sizzling one we ran it virtually uncut I'm not sure if I showed him or he showed me but the view is certainly responded when you're on stage you you talk about seeing Todd Smith saying and if you can talk about I can't you can say and I can't say anything yeah but I think oh good did you said it pretty good just let the first time you did it oh we may look like any child after this good I'm going to still object what do you think I don't know see I like it like that I like it but you get to know me or you can choose for yourself when you really like the richer than that don't matter them phony about yeah I'm not later than ask myself will you think oh I really like that guy you know that Richards not really bad as I thought no you say yeah I can in appeared I don't say I don't like the period you're denied maybe I don't like you hey how about that I'm not good not because you're glad oh my god you would you like I know I like you know you do yet am I glad you like me okay and then there's Sean Connery a wonderful man now I had to bring up a little something he'd said years before and we got hundreds of angry letters especially from feminists years ago you didn't interview which make him back to haunt or whatever you know I'm going to say right though okay you can interview in which you said we're not the worst thing to slap a woman now and then as I remember you said you don't do it with a clenched fist it's better to do it with an open hand yes remember that yeah I love that I would change my opinion you have it no so do you think it's good to slap a woman no I don't think it's good I think yes I don't think it's that bad I think that it depends entirely on the circumstances and if it merits it what would marry it well if you have tried everything else and women are pretty goodness that they can't leave it alone they don't the one who had the last word and you give them the landfill - would but they're not happy with the last one they want to say it again and and get into a really provocative situation then I think it's absolutely right to give a good flat direction after this interview I was told by several Hollywood insiders that that conversation would cost him his Oscar an Academy Award night as Sean Connery walked across the stage to pick up that Oscar my producer called me at home hey she said we're off the hook and then there are celebrities that somehow rubbed people the wrong way if I were male was any indication John Derek didn't dear himself to American females when he answered this question about his wife the beautiful bo Derek why did something happen God should be attempting it you will no longer beautiful beautiful would he still love you this man who loves beautiful me is it my fault I should shouldn't yeah that that's a tough question because I never thought about well no no I have many yeah because people people would assume that I wouldn't well you're not telling me I've hand yes I did I know no wait no why yeah how can I say it if I can say that offhand yeah expect the man who loves me love me as I'm on role usually no 10 minutes oh how I wouldn't you would expect that yeah but you're not secure that that would exactly yeah yeah I would assume that I would because I think I'm an iceberg that I love what's inside of her now but that's not what I met I didn't meet her insides I met her outside and if you have come to know her inside later and she's not 30 years older than you right as he gets a little fat in the belly and the face is not quite so terrific looking you still gonna love him yes I have also over the years sometimes had difficulty distinguishing between a harmless conversation and a saucepot I certainly never meant for Don Johnson sexual promiscuity to be a model for American youth but all the angry letters that came in after this one when did you lose your virginity I really was 12 how awesome was 12 did she seduce you and did you seduce her it was a mutual UFO car show game it was a it was a mutual thing we she was a 17 and older woman is and even at this moment just thinking back on it it was very exciting it's a great experience and I'm sure that she was your babysitter well what not for me but for my younger sisters and brothers did you see her again yeah at 12 years old you began to have an affair yeah for longer or not and it's not necessarily an uncommon thing it isn't no I think a lot of people lots of 12 you all morning I don't know about that I'm trying not to sign adjust this is a surprise for you much on your babies in the early days we tried to mix things up a politician a head of state a king or queen king Hussein and Queen Noor of Jordan example they trotted out all their children their Arabian horses trotted around the palace and I tried it all over the place but the audience just wasn't interested on one show we talked with Donny and Marie Osmond Jack Walter and Carolyn Martha and vice president and mrs. Rand and the ratings were great until the Vice President came on in there well thanks lunged it we are the first Americans to cross the Bay of Pigs in 16 years sorry remember this website as you remember this is a businessman you feel funny crossing the Bay of Pigs with an American with friends America with green America man a companion friendship relation certainly relations manager guy Julian come here is very difficult now we did not come here even the work to no cure but some reason many people remember our interview with Fidel Castro I don't know why because we were slaughtered in the rating the same four hours i sat and argued with Castro as he continuously shoe cigar smoke in my face and we're creamed by an episode of Barnaby Jones oh well I don't care what the ratings were it was worth it but there is one interview from those early heads of state that I will never forget it was the Shah of Iran two years before he left his country I remember the breathtaking Palace the gold telephone the Sun would never be king but most of all I remember the anguish welling up in emphasized Eva's face as I questioned her husband the Shah on the subject of women I'm quoting your majesty and a man's life women count only if they are beautiful graceful and know how to stay feminine you may be equal in the eyes of the law but not an ability you have never produced a Michelangelo or a boss or even a great cook you are schemers you're evil all of you Oh Your Majesty you said all these things not with the same words no well the thought you've never produced a Michelangelo a Bach or even you so you don't feel that women are right in that sense equal if they have the same intelligence or a bit more so far maybe you will become in the future you can always have some exceptions here or there but yes but on the average I repeat again we'll have you produced the top scientists Madame Curie that's fun but we've had a lot of trouble on getting ahead perhaps because of this point of view do you feel your wife is one of these rare exceptions depends in what sense well do you feel your wife can govern as well as a man I prefer not on but you have made your wife the Regent of this country if you if you should die your wife decayed this country and yet you're not certain that she can govern as well as a man I can't see the reaction that she might eventually have other crisis it is a question an answerable question how do you want to die and my you for your honesty but what you are really saying is the women are nice in their place nice pretty creature you are a very pretty woman say something Your Majesty how do you feel when you listen to this what can I say you know it then I don't think you really believe because well after all but we don't want to start arguing again starting to have the conversation about the difference between men and women but in what a man has done to the world really have they achieved something that today the world is perfect in every way politically economically relations contacts progress so let us not put to you know just classify people history is indeed strange because in the end when the Shah was in exile and very weak it was his Empress who was strong I must say I thought this interview was riveting but we learned in short order that while our viewers really wanted to see but the people they love the most the television motion picture and recording superstars the politicians I say for 2020 it reminds me of those polls when people are asked what music they like to listen to most people say our classical but what sells out is rock and roll [Music] what'd you ever do one using God I don't do horror from Thanks your relationship with Frank Sinatra and shall we say quite abruptly he has about as much humor as this floor you looked at the floor lately if you're padding [Music] swear to your world you don't know me you don't know Barbara Walters you don't know President Carter you don't know anybody public whom you only know through print and television you have a public image of them of us all it has been our plan to get behind that public image that mask that keeps us from really knowing these people it isn't always easy but we try what would be your idea of the perfect day it's a perfect day one of those questions are I don't know why haven't I heard you ask somebody wants what kind of a tree now I did not know why we're clearing up misconceptions but you know why did Hollywood treat nice absolutely what's that my question was I think like be a tumbleweed why don't I tell you about things coming back to haunt you actually it was Katherine Hepburn who compared herself to a tree and I never really even asked it what nevermind instead of telling you we'll show you later in the show next Paul Newman Bette Midler and Eddie Murphy [Music] I would like to be a superstar I hate the word superstar that works I think all great people fear failure fear life the thing is I'm a star that that is that is a very ethereal thing when people compare you to Farrah Fawcett move over Faribault is here how do you feel about that no happy nation we once said success it's a great deodorant yeah a famous idea when you successfully it can hardly do any wrong and it gets rid of all these smell success that's what these people all have or had in common when we choose a guest we try to get them while they're hot why well exactly because more people will tune in that's a big part of it but it's also because at that period when a celebrity steps from stardom to superstardom they're facing things they've never had to face before everything they've ever wanted is coming true and it's a little scary or that I should make them funny this first interview with Eddie was the toughest of all we sat in the power of his new home he hadn't bought any furniture yet I tried to draw him out have some fun but neither of us had much fun that day any what was the first character you didn't tell me that Lyman took off you know he may be doing Muhammad he started out as a college student though and now here the Phenom he's an angry something he's an English film critic I don't like doing it how would he reduced 48 hours Oh he'd loved it because well he's a black tea appointment right he was just like it if the movie had black people innocently he loves how are you doing that to me come on people don't stay up that late I want to have them say it up and watch the show and are ready to go down and then not be breaking in your house on Saturday so you guys watch up this is Pacific if people want to talk about you now I mean there people are gonna watch tonight well perhaps don't see Saturday Night Live and perhaps haven't seen 48 hours there I wanted to haven't seen 48 what did you both get out of the house right whatever that was it what would you say about you what to me about it that they don't know and I don't know I get it's real it's real tough give a description of yourself like I said on money outside I'm going inside looking out all the time and as you look out there and all those people are looking at you now and you're looking into that all that audience what are you seeing I don't know what are you people thinking write it down and send it to Barbara Walters box no I'm crazy I'm not the brain what can I tell you know what are we talking about that's how you get up the subject you lots of time Bob we can give us 11 years without talking about she have you crying on the show and I was like Cygnus you don't know where we go in there four years and to Beverly Hills top movies later we talked again this time he was in failures in the middle of a staggering success story no one has taken more heat for letting success change him and Eddie Murphy but my impression is that the change was for the better I found a warmer more self-assured Eddie who talked openly about the darker side of success well a lot has happened since we last talked to 1983 you left Saturday Night Live you became a movie star what's been the biggest change since we talked I guess I'm a little more paranoid than I used to be on everything I'm a little socially liberal paranoid emotionally I'm a little more paranoid and those things you have lots of success and power kind of like isolation you confuse because you start thinking you know if I have this and have that and I can do this I can do that how come I'm not happy all the time then you realize that nobody's happy all the time indeed no one is happy all the time no matter how successful they are just ask Bette Midler her public image is that of the outrageous feminist he'll do anything for a laugh a party girl privately she's surprisingly domestic neat meticulous and now a born-again housewife / actress / closeted intellectual we did two interviews with bet she was a huge success both times but the first time she paid a heavy price for it we begin in 1980 after she split with her manager and was branded impossible to work with well I'll tell you it's really rough this is not funny this is a lot of work and it's apparently exhausting to be quite frank I don't like to talk about it but I'll this has been very very hard on me to last the last this last year I there's a couple of times I really thought I was going to go under I was ready to call the medley the white suits it's an awful lot of work and I had no idea before I decided I would do it myself and I had no idea what Aaron really did your act in terms of doing without the manager yeah how did you keep from falling I don't really know that I have now you did you haven't you kept your phone I don't think I have kept for Vauban I think I'm very close to falling apart you've never been mine never been married want to be married no but I think I like to ask children would you yeah it's the best yet to come or have you been there oh let's hope this is it do you think I do but I don't think it's 34 you think that this is it well I'd like Louisana you're not going to get high it's not going to get better is there any more what else is there there was more lots more after a bomb movie called jinxed that virtually disappeared disappeared is Hollywood for no one would work with her then came a happy marriage to a performer named martin von Hoffenberg a baby named sophie and a string of hit movies going a very different on-screen bet she was different off screen to 1986 what a year a year yeah I mean three pictures and a baby yeah it's divine Miss M the end of movie star the end his mother I never thought I would have never I I can't I can't I'm in a daze I've been in your life I don't get it I don't know what I did I was the same person 15 years ago I've been that I am now after jinx you had after AJ you had what you described as a nervous wreck yeah how do you know what was my version of her endurance breakdown well I couldn't get out of bed and I cried all the time I all did was a clinical nervous breakdown but it felt bad to me it felt as bad as anything that I had ever lived through and so I use those words to describe it you're not going to do it again no I'm not going to do it again I'm not going to do it again I don't think that will ever ever happen to me again I don't care what they say about me it will never happen to me again how do you know because I just know it because I don't care I got the magic I found the magic word I don't care anymore I decided I was never going to feel but I was never going to invest it with so much emotion again and I really haven't and I've had a much better time since then I do what they tell me to do I wear what they tell me to wear I stand where they tell me to stand I I'm just yes I'm here I'm doing my job I'm having a good time I don't think that there's a great deal of dignity and and standing in front of a camera and speaking someone else's lines and you know being a little more your left little more your right I'd heard Robert Mitchum was talking very odd heard he was a grouch it's too easy and super ended before one of the greatest movie stars with ever literally went into your head and went to the island of Saint Martin anyway to talk with the actor least favorite things are fame and adulation but I found in my Volvo Cheers just honest yes accessible I don't feel successful I feel rather like do you know those stuffed donkeys along the road and Arizona the pit full of child or a quarter and take a picture of it anyway please no fancy ideas yes I'll have it you navigate pigeon is for Georgia I honestly didn't expect to like Boy George but we spent the evening going to some of his favorite London haunts and my body was really together little did I know is falling apart one year later he was arrested and serious drug charges in our interview he had no problem telling me he was bisexual what bothered him was that his sexuality was accepted only because he was famous the thing that makes me sad is that I cannot change life all there's other Georgia's people like Philip and Paul you know who are famous I was in hamster the other day walking around and they went 40 and they were a bunch of girls laughing at Philip you know now if they'd known who I was it had been a different story between Canali autograph and I hate that you don't sign autographs yeah well I'll tell you when I stop signing I was standing at a urinal I think I'm sorry I asked the question Rick and then it went back through my head all the times the Johanna and I had been sitting at dinner tables having dinner and interrupted constantly with the kids walking down Fifth Avenue ah the people that say can I have your picture with my dog take off your glasses we want to see your blue eyes to which I usually say I will if you let me see your gums or I can't my pants will fall down don't eat what we saw this interview with Paul Newman thought he was angry I never got that impression I thought he was thought like Clint Eastwood he is one of those men who take their work seriously but not themselves well I don't know who started this ritual or autographs but I assume there wasn't a roundel vote on it and it is my belief however antiquated that I have one obligation and that is to give the best and cleanest Tydeus meticulous performance that I can whether it's on the stage or in front of the camera and I think that's enough what do you say when they ask you I'm saying I'm very sorry I don't sign in early I wasn't signed autograph because I said and I still say you know it's not I'm not I say the autographs have a tendency to make people think they greeted what they really are nobody has Jesus please autograph somebody said years ago if you want to be in the public eye an entertainer you have to take what comes with it and I guess what comes with it is the fact that people for some reason are interested in what you do in your personal life so let's that's part and parcel is a being a public eye Johnny Carson was on that short list of people who rarely do in-depth interviews he finally did one with us people are always asking me who I would like to interview next and the list keeps changing but in general it's the well-known person who really if every gives an interview when they finally do it usually makes news right now raise a Gorbachev the wife of Russia's leader and a fascinating woman in her own right would be on my list of course Jacqueline Onassis has been on the list for years and I once said that if Greta Garbo ever granted me an interview I'd retire and then I worried that she'll call one day and hold me to it last year I had the opportunity to talk with one of the people on my list a lifelong Idol of mine Betty Davis what sustains you really and truly what sustains me is work no question for marriages and you talk yourself about losing what you lose as I have worn it down young one thing I was a famous that very much interface and was very difficult for engagement to take Betty Davis is appearing and this interview shocked many who hadn't seen her in recent years they didn't realize she'd undergone a mastectomy and a stroke but she was still feisty outspoken and yes brave so are there any actresses acting today who you think could do your rose you kind of look at and say I see a little bit of myself there or she could Betty Alana and then earlier mm-hmm great you and myself and ever think if she wants it she can go on very long way and she's also recall very very difficult message the beginning of success until you fall very very difficult a long ago very nobody at all being called difficult is great in a way it keeps weak people at arm's distance you know if someone's afraid of difficult they'll mess with you and you don't have to worry about those people already weeds out you know a lot of people that you don't want to work with anyway I'm reminded of something that I read that you said which was that you'd like to own a country oh yeah yeah that's where the control thinkers well I would I really would like that would you be the queen nod a dictator all great kings and all green I'm a brave man I'm one of the world's great human somewhere I have always known that I was born for greatness for my life who have always felt it basically on the clown our ancestors did somersaults there's funny little pointy hats from build on for the king if you're a good Easter your piece of chicken if your body cut your head off sure sometimes you can influence attitudes but basically you're a clown next the best homes and bing crosby's last interview the home of big party which attracts [Music] aunt mercy can you Roger Johnny Cash Michael Landon we call it Matt or is that part of the show when we see the celebrity's home we do it because it's so popular and because each home says something about these stars that words alone can never describe Sylvester Stallone's night collection comes to mind I've been collecting knives for about 15 years if you were guilty of murder of you're guilty of stuff they would use this to cut the throat huh yeah this is my pudding collection know what my pudding collection this is a butterscotch this is the first one I ever bought back in 1965 little stuff in here would you like some fresh air I think so yeah it's a breeze going nice the funniest home would have been Steve Martin except that it wasn't really his home instead I'd say the funniest home belonged to Redd Foxx Redd could actually watch live monkeys in his bed in return the monkeys could watch Fred I also remember Barbra Streisand's house or houses I should say she has five of them all in one piece of land in Malibu there is the ranch house where we did our first interviews and the Art Deco house where she did every bit of the decorating yourself when you pick up a rug underneath is a rug of tile so that if you take the rug out to be cleaned you still have a rub of tile in the floor I recall Bob Hope's cluttered office and just golf ball from President Nixon Dolly Parton's enormous dressing room and of course those platinum wigs Kenny Rogers magnificent bathroom was topped only by his wife Mary Ann's bathroom this is where I sleep it is where this is where I'm going to make my children the children that I don't have you I'm gonna make all of them right here in this spot this is quick this is where I will make all of my children right in this spot that's right Eddie Murphy actually saw himself making children here in his bedroom while Burt Reynolds simply saw himself when I wake up in the morning I like to see some that I trust and love and adore and who cares a great deal about me be comfortable we picked the spot where we do the interview very carefully it has to be comfortable after all will be pocketed for a couple of hours of course it also has to look good Johnny Carson's Malibu beach living room for example champion Christie Brinkley's New York duplex Boy George's London home probably our biggest surprise was the day we were to shoot in Diana Ross's living room I think the director had described it as pastel little did we know that overnight Diana would buy an entire furniture showroom and redecorate this is what we found when we arrived a striking living room in red black and white if I had to pick one I'd say Farrah Fawcett's home was the most beautiful in addition to the house itself she'd added a large honey all-purpose room with its own kitchen raga queue area big couches and tables you could just live in that room alone especially since right next to it was a for his pajamas and racquetball court most of the stars especially the older ones had comfortable unpretentious homes this was John Wayne's bedroom quite a contrast from the environment in which we first interviewed Cher in 1985 she lived in the Beverly Hills mansion with his tall white pillows and Egyptian style furniture all in black and white we called it Tara on the Nile three years later she was twice the star living in hyperspace and then we luck lost yes I own does say something budget but the best way to get to know someone is not by looking at their wallpaper but by trying to find out face-to-face one-on-one just what makes them tick there's often a disparity it seemed between the way the public sees them the way they see themselves and who they really are when I interviewed you a few years ago you said that you didn't like yourself at all I remember you simply didn't didn't think you were very nice man no well I I agree with me I prefer cayenne why not I just don't like me why not I don't like my own company there don't let him fool you Laurence Olivier wasn't given Isis I was terribly in awe but I found him to be funny easy and helpful that for example he recommended that I always be photographed from the left I've done it that way ever since he was right how would you like people to remember it I'd like them to remember me for a diligent something like expert work then well I think a poet a wetland and Shakespeare was a wetland in God's work I think is anything better than a work it hurts me if people don't like me or if it hurts me if people don't understand what I'm doing and they they're they're angry with it but after all this is my one and only life it's not a dress rehearsal for anything else is it share can't give a bad interview you can ask her anything and she'll always give an answer she's always seemed to me to be fearless but she does have one fear that I won't live my life as good as I know it could be lived that I'll be stupid and and not have God's and integrity and and make choices that are safe like many people I do mostly what I should share does what she wants care when I admire her heart I just feel it that's all I think life is about it is is is touching somebody and being with somebody Dudley Moore is exactly what you'd expect I mean can you imagine if if everybody was was engaged in that sort of affectionate interplay that I can't imagine what else would be important and I think I might sound like a flower child and I but it's I think it's damn all true you mean if Brezhnev and her mainly and and all that all the clouds were just could just get together in one big room with a you know big bowl of oil I think the thing I remember is having a wonderful time I like more with Dudley than with any other guest since you've had all of these years of therapy if I you know do that all kind of weird thing where you just say all the words when you tell me immediately course will you try and keep it vaguely sensible and clean please okay ready yes happy oil look shields our youngest subject 15 when we did this interview everybody wanted to know what I thought about her mother well I remember thinking to myself her mother must have done something right because Brooke is one terrific kid so is book shield I love these questions super cool yeah impressive I think I'm a regular kid that just happens to work most people imagine all superstars to be stuck on themselves for the most part they are just hard on themselves little guy right inside the back there don't do that I don't have a lot of brains but I have a good gut feeling do you believe in a literal heaven and hell yes we're gonna go1 to heaven I've spent a lot time there I wish I wasn't as distant that great line from cool hands oh you know we seem to have a failure to communicate is applicable to the enemy I want to mean something I don't want to just be some joke I don't want to be the all-american joke you know just with the boobs in the hair and and the tight belts or whatever I want to be a meaningful artistic in the person but no one described himself quite the way being possibly did thing was one of the most memorable interviews memorable because well quite frankly I was shocked here was a man who was a legend loved by everybody Gino easygoing understanding and leave that with his public image in private life it was different in one area I found him to be a strict and inflexible as anyone I've ever met being lived by a firm set of rules and you expected assembly to do the same no arguments no further discussions but he was also modest funny and amazingly self-deprecating by the way this was to be his last television interview in reading about you and then talking to a couple yes very often the same things about your fingers aloneness bing has a vice curtain around listeners book yeah bing takes care of being this picture of a man who finds it very hard to give or receive emotion how'd you know I did kind of Baris to me too much emotion you know I mean I I don't know where anybody could ever conceive of me as a loner I know more people in more walks of life I could probably anybody in show business if it hard to get through to the inside I don't know I don't think this much to me too good hey I find if they I think it's fighting you on the surface just what I am is apparent and obvious and don't you think you at all do you know just a surface power just well yeah I can't and though I don't have any depth or any profound philosophies and thoughts or that's if that's what you mean but I did Katherine had said we're an old-fashioned authoritarian family being says he wants perfect children and decides to get them I don't even got them that I don't think but there is one area aren't you doesn't work all the time no fire occurs ten minutes after they leave the house the wrong companion can undo all that you think that you've done do you ever take a hairbrush to them or used to have Thank You Blanche I'm pretty good yeah with what hair but it was sure what nothin till every time they're tender clothes you can't do it anymore visited it cuz I pitch it back and my sake does being now you have this young family teenagers and there's a lot of difference in the morale today the morality then with your his family how do you feel about young people living together about being married yeah I think is wrong I think it's wrong suppose one of your sons came home and said dad I've got this girl and do you mind us you know we've been staying together but living together you mind if we share a room here in the house good morning yeah note says you know happens another family whenever my family and I mean if any one of them did that I would speak to them never again ever again do you mean if one of your sons came home and said I'm happy with like this girl and I'm living with her and we're not married you would never steal guitars but obviously I was raised a Catholic and we believe in marriage and you rather him be married then maybe spend some time and found out what she was like he doesn't have to take it a bit to find out what kind of a woman he's marrying what would you do with Mary Frances is now 17 came to you at 19 or 20 and said dad I'm having an affair I've got somebody I care about let's not say get your take your things and move away you're having this bear and you wouldn't talk to her safe just daughter whom you adore yes what if one of the kids smoked marijuana I don't think Meredith's any big sin that wouldn't bother unless they abused it kind of continuously I think it should be legalized and I think would probably do long live away with a lot of this smuggling and gangsterism I don't suppose smoking marijuana hurts any worse than being an alcoholic does it probably not as much it's a true that when you made most of your films you wouldn't take star billing everything you never took star billing why not I think you put a burden on yourself you know the picture than any goodness they will when you get some help huh one thing is to say such-and-such with Bing Crosby hands like what a high society with Frank Sinatra Grace Kelly think girl you had been really armed stone so yeah I took the smallest I could get and I think your last not only that way people think that I'm humble and I'm wallowing in humility when I when I was at being called a legend and all that yeah it's just being realistic when somebody says that I'm so embarrassed because I know I've never done anything that merits that when you look at things that people do like Olivier and work and Newman and Redford and Jack Nicholson and all the great the singers like Tony Bennett Sinatra and Coleman the Jolson's and not and not driving and all the thing to my traffic no one's ever done anything great like those people you know think it's thing we created any excitement like those people know you think you're good actor so what about in country girl terribly terrible I'm I just do the same rule on so I'm part all the time if you were writing the book and it's a Bing Crosby and then you had to do a couple lines afterwards to describe this I and show business what would you say once they say affair song into most of the time that tinia could read lines pretty good had a good sense of comedy timing fair vocabulary not a bad fella all around that's about it next clip Eastwood Farrah Fawcett and Elizabeth Taylor on love and marriage on a scale of one to ten where would you put you no kidding real on a nine about 800 wanna sit her mother what am i the skill of wonder kid oh I think I'm about a 55 I think I'm a happening girl every star has had to face it the fear that their success may be only skin-deep they had the look of the 70s or the 80s are all too often the look of the week generally speaking that look begins with physical beauty but if that's also where it ends well that perform risen for a brief and bumpy ride it's not surprising then that this obsession with the looks has been addressed over and over again in our conversations do you think you've been looking yeah do you thinking sexy yeah I guess I am I don't know people seem to say that blazing but I think I if I am sexy I was just as sexy two years ago and nobody thought so animal my idea of beauty I saw intricate fashion magazines or something or the losers in our town what they called cheap trash in our town was the person I wanted to look like how do you feel when people talk about how much you and Bo look alike well I'm flattered I think she's quite attractive sometimes I use it to my advantage when I don't have any makeup on and people ask me if I'm boy say yes what do you think of your looks my looks hmm I wouldn't people say to me it's because of your looks or your looks have a lot to do with bein a movie star I just laughs if it makes me laugh I mean I look at those guys in the Salem and everything those guys when I could be bisexual for them yeah those guys are gorgeous you know Redford's gorgeous expense that's that's gorgeous I just you know I see guys every single day a lot of guys here in the crew that you know we had a contest I'd be third second of the 120 celebrities we've interviewed some have stayed married some have gotten married some have gotten divorced some have gotten married and divorced some have gotten married divorced remarried and divorced well but that's Hollywood Jimmy Stewart is one of the grand old men of Hollywood never a scandal never an unkind word a wonderful life and a 39 year marriage with the gracious Gloria I just happen to meet this absolutely wonderful beautiful charming humorous great girl and you know it was just this great good fortune but has come to me it's sailing all my life people make a promise to get married stay married and to live through thick and thin together and for better and for worse in sickness and health and then when things get tough they say oh well I didn't expect that that's not what I had in mind but I think a deal is a deal it's really a throwaway society isn't I mean it's really weight everything you throw away throw away for the most part bottles cans you litter roads and you totally wives children I guess your time really is whatever yes so we recycle all the bottles recycle all the here things we try to fix the toaster instead of throwing it away and when we get into trouble we try to fix it the marriage you're 142 years you must be rather lovable for someone to a stayed with you all that time what makes the marriage work supposed to lack of imagination communication chef a very different life that's what makes a good man I know that no joy chance Betty Davis has been married four times Elizabeth Taylor's seven stormy marriages are legendary we talked with her twice last year and in 1977 when she was living in Virginia with then-husband John Warner can you believe sometimes yourself that you've been married so many times you know I find it very hard to believe you think this is kind of this marriage is the one that's going to last and last and last if I didn't believe that with my entire life I wouldn't have gotten married John what's fair is greatest' richer with Elizabeth Taylor's greatest virtue and greatest gold well race virgin grateful well her greatest virtue is that she's made me terribly happy and Falk she just burns up a lot of food now and then I don't know it's hard to say Barbara I wish she'd take better care of herself and I mean that quake Sicilian I've told her many times I want her to last a long long time I can't well I horse well I know but you need a few more vegetables and the lorry please prepare yes she does even more Vespa - are you worried about bringing our way no it doesn't because I'm so happy and I enjoy eating I like to cook and I enjoy eating and you were never fast I answer now wish I got you I didn't want to turn it into any of my clothes but don't care not really and if you can blew up and got terribly fat you wouldn't care no not as long as it I did it out of contentment I don't eat nervously I eat out of enjoyment I think eating is one of the great pleasures in life I didn't enjoy big food no I hated it and I hated all that job I probably laughed as louder louder than anyone but they heard it hurt me a lot and it was a kind of defiance I think made me get even fatter I guess it's my business it's my body I would do some photos unity and you just did incredible I let my hair go I didn't bother with makeup I obviously just didn't care I was quite gaming unhappy and I did love it was so ah rebellion setting in I've worked as I'm ignoring and sort of been told to do this and uh and I reached the point in my life where I got now damn it I want to be thought out bloody well be fair in the life of Richard Burton so much has been written about a talked about it but I couldn't possibly even start to ask you about it except ask what your memories on so wonderful memories war memory in my memory well can't blame me for trying other celebrities have been a little more forthcoming when asked about their personal relationships hardest lesson I ever had to learn in my life was that the person that you fall in love with and the person that falls in love with you is not necessarily as a matter of fact a lot of the time can be the worst person to spend the rest of your life he was talking about Sally Field Burt Reynolds always speaks openly about his personal life and I like this man I could interview him once a week and he'd always have something new to say he's also not bad at predictions this was in 1978 I'll be married assist you will yeah good is not 52 earlier this year he married longtime love Loni Anderson and they recently adopted a baby boy are you going to marry Susan and her there's a possibility I mean a very very strong possibility Sylvester Stallone when we first interviewed him he had left his wife flashes or entertainer Susan Anton when we last interviewed him he had just broken up with his second wife fujite I find myself telling people constantly you don't know how smart this man is if he appears simple in the movies it's because he wrote the pot that way Stallone seems to have everything in the world and what he doesn't have he hasn't got a clue how to get I would like to be able to have a home life that is really beautiful there is the whole storybook white picket fence bit I really would I would like to go for that I haven't really been successful at it maybe it's my own fault I don't know if ever there was a couple that seemed to have the whole storybook white picket fence bit it was Michael and Lynn Landon but they're no longer together Rob Reiner and Penny Marshall were married actors when we interviewed them now our unmarried directors Mary Tyler Moore spoke so lovingly of granting now she's married to someone else I realize Minh promised the would divorce was barely in her vocabulary and totally against her religion still and happy good night this year and so that's the end of that of like we'll never get married again quite true Ringo Starr and Papa Bach are still married I have attempted to attract the kind of men that I don't leave but not anymore Cebu is now married and has twins the divorce that was really yes really the divorce to tear you apart would I think of marriage if the second thing out of your brain the board doesn't think marriage she thinks babies when we first interviewed her in 1980 she had left husband Lee Majors for Ryan O'Neal they are still together unmarried and are raising a son I failed the two marriages and I don't want to get married until that's the best thing for us to do call the movie NATO attraction Glenn Close is still unmarried and gave birth in May to a baby girl must drive people the woman would go absolutely not that you knew 100% of us know might be terrific but it might be boring and finally I'm asked all the time if there was anyone that I was attracted to I usually dodged the question but now I figure why not just admit it Clint Eastwood but hey who wouldn't be but there's more to know all the time Roger I don't I think I don't know I think somewhere between the time you understand is what's it enough it was driving me nuts and I would drive you crazy because I would be saying but you know but didn't you or haven't you or heaviness oh we could try and see if it worked out well that was this interview this is okay we get by well they will do it all I think we'll stop and reload [Laughter] next Michael J Fox Richard Pryor and Goldie Hawn when I was little I was I was morbidly shy the process of meeting people and getting to know people and all is never easy and and as I say I'm still basically pretty shy when you considered then a very shy introverted kid yeah I think so I don't know what I was I didn't know that I was so shy I was so scared I know that's so boring to hear every person who's ever been on a Barbara Walters special said Suzanne Somers I'm so sure I'm so buzzing anyway every but every actor is basically chef most of the people who stir done with us have a sense but this is it no matter what has been said in the morning shows or written in the tabloids or mentioned in the gossip columns this is for the record that's because we don't talk with a manager or the ex-wife but we simply talk with them and we talk as they say in depth this may also be the reason Simon didn't want to be in the program we don't win them all but many people we've interviewed feel that this was the most important interview they've ever done not because we showed what they had become but because we showed who they are and where they came from in your early years you played stiff joints and and then sleazy like why wasn't the word what was it like Oh Barbara the worst it was awful is horrendous and I was fired from the job every night and I would do these shows one show me I would come back and say you're gone we've got bad I was performing and over the loudspeaker the owner says get her out of here it was awful and to that because of it I was fired so wasn't it nice day after the three years ago I would leave nothing in a dressing room I've even read that one of your teachers in junior high school they voted you the student most likely to end up in the electric chair yes and they weren't kidding you know unanimous well that's one of the high point father's not too many people get voted something inanimate believe it and I thought I was popular why did people think you were so loud couldn't up in that bad marina was actually I was well I was a kind of combination of Marlon Brando davon DeCarlo do you remember when your agent called you how did your agent call you about the part you didn't have a phone I bet a an office set up outside Pioneer chicken what do you mean I don't know well there was a just up the street from my apartment and it was just phone booth the pioneer chicken right it was there all the time that was my place and I would just go there they knew it everybody knew the number there and they call me Mac chances if I had say was a total loss I could order a couple of chicken wings Bennett I was wishing I had like you know buck ninety nineteen to get a couple of chicken wings but um real funny and I was kind of my office keeps you talking with Michael J Fox is like talking to the boy next door in fact mom and dad were in the next room but Michael they really is weren't that long ago and the memories are fresh and funny guy heard you ate so much macaroni and cheese I could do a cookbook of it I'm not gonna invite I didn't wasted macaroni is is it true that you sold off a sectional couch section-by-section is famous sexual account story yeah I sold my sectional couch section-by-section to an actor named Lance gasp you saw were same act in each section yeah yeah weren't you stop up if he can't afford to buy the whole thing and I was and I was I had too much optimism to sell the whole thing at one of it or not everyone has spoken so affectionately about their salad days Goldie Hawn for example then you decided that you were going to be a performer okay and played and what and what sounds like the sleaziest kind of places as a go-go down yes my name is what would I like degrading did you dance on top of all things I danced um in a cage I had men putting noses of an image that one day I would like to shoot and I looked at myself in the mirror there was a mirror directly opposite from me that I hadn't known was there until suddenly you know I looked up and I saw this girl selling her heart out to nobody nobody came nobody wanted nobody cared and that's nothing nobody came nobody cared Neil Diamond almost never does interviews I therefore expected him to be uncomfortable I never expected him to be funny for solitary man came out I thought I can't use Neil Diamond it's too normal it's boring it's ordinary and diamond sounds like somebody made it up and I have to find a name with some character to it something that will be memorable and so I came up with two names and I gave them into the record company and they called me just before the record was pressed and they said well is it going to be Neil Diamond is it going to be Noah Kaminski which was one of the alternates that I had or is it going to be ice cherry ice cherry nice cherry Icee e.e I see a chair thanks axel it was I thought wow that sounds really cool most people named Noah Kaminski would want to change it to kneeled on earth or to it and I chickened out the last minute I think the president the company called man he said well what is it Neil and I thought I thought of my grandmother and I said my condition I could never explain it to her how you can be I stopped who is this this is me no it's not you so I should go with Neil Diamond's and I'll try and figure it out after that and you know it worked out okay and then there's Richard Franklin's Lenox Thomas Pryor no one has angered me more lied to me more or touched me more than Richard Pryor in fact no one has talked to me more we've done him three times that's more than anyone else and it was that first time when he was talking about growing up in a house of prostitution that I realized his comic genius has its foundation in sadness and pain it was hell because I had nobody to talk to I was a child right then I grew up in seeing my mother going to rooms with man and my aunt is going wrong again I understand and I saw no man in charge of nice to peek through keyholes and watch people make love not love but they to me was love and it messed me up like it has messed me up but I say it messed me up sexually for a minute because I'm afraid sexually we are mother and father married mmm after I was about to me gently was born which of Franklin Lenox Thomas private there I got a name some pimps and gangsters and all that cool in you were 15 years old when your first child was born yeah yeah yeah how could you I mean it was fun why is it oh man are you kidding in the garage and then after she was born I didn't know my father was making love to her too but in getting boom that's the truth who believed in you who cared about you Richard Franklin my name's Thomas private favorite you and magic dust are you totally off tugs no I love drugs I do I really do but I can't do them a lot because it messes my life up every time I get in trouble it's because I end up drinking too much on I end up snorting too much smoking too much but I like drugs and I don't want to say it like to make other people want it doing I really want to say that but I like some cocaine and I miss around my friends and get high I mean I enjoy it and you might still might students to know I have done a little while but I might a year and a half later Richard Pryor set himself ablaze and then ran screaming through the streets of his Los Angeles neighborhood over half of his body was burned we were the first to talk to him after the accident and seemed eager to set the record straight Richard how does it happens this it was stupid me and my partner had been drinking this is Jamaican rum that's called overproof and we were drinking and it spilled and he went to get a towel out of the bathroom to wipe it up and I lit a cigarette and the next thing I know I was on fire we have been cleaning the lighters every light in the house you know how you go to someone's house and handles lettuce I'm gonna take them they don't work so I said we got all the lives was filling up Shh I don't know what happened that's all I remember I was on fire what are you on drugs no six years later we talked again when we did our last interview six years ago was the day that you came out of the hospital and I asked you about the accident and you all what we had had nothing to do with freebasing it it nothing it was Jairus in short you didn't tell me the truth that's true yeah why not well one reason I like to lay it on is this my lawyer at the time had made a statement to the press of how it happened he didn't know what happened he was trying to cover my ass do you understand yeah by saying it wasn't freebasing stuff like that so I was trying to cover his ass when I said the same thing he was talking about I'd be inside I'd be screaming I wanted to has no accident now I want to tell the truth a look at what an accident so I got crazy one night went man tried to kill myself I've been asking it it really did deliberately do it didn't it I want how'd you do it I was crazy I'd gone over the top so I don't really know I remember pouring rum on me I remember that pulling around the love you class yeah and like a cigarette lighter knowing that you would have a die no access yeah and yet you fought like crazy to stay alive yes because when I woke up in the hospital I was alive and I said okay I've been given another chance why did you want to kill yourself I was ashamed of what I saw of the drugs yeah I had come to this God had given me all this you know and what I'd do with it I could only end up in a room alone with smoking a bass pipe all day long I couldn't stop I put the pipe down and jump back in my hand I couldn't stop five minutes didn't stand at five minutes I said to myself five five minutes I'm long slow cool it wasn't a minute it would go by I had to pick that pipe back huh and I had money that was no curse in life to be able to buy the dope Richard told us he was not a changed man and he brought out his new wife and baby boy to prove he relaxed me and I respect him but I've expect him because he's honest with me well I think we should just let people sit for a second and look at the three of you because I gotta tell you Richard I never thought I would see this picture and I wish it everything good within three months Richard and his wife were separated they are now divorced next Sylvester Stallone rides again and John Wayne's last interview I have a favor to ask if you uh if you would mind wearing a blindfold on the way up there well in case you're at a party or something in the address where accidentally to slip out that would kind of protect me and if you wouldn't mind I'd sort of appreciate note telling I love you well maybe it's so I also wear a blindfold on the way out in case I'm accidentally drugged with truth serum and someone you know might get they get me to tell where I live how to get there I will drive are you blind over now okay let me walk you around here okay this pre-call it's just a precaution a real car oh yeah it's a good that's a beautiful car tooth it's the 76th Cadillac convertible time I'll be driving don't worry I've driven up so much so I know the way I've driven up so much about you uh-huh okay you sure you another way oh yeah ready to feel like we're in forward I'm okay I think we're going to be all right I really do - evidence many times [Music] here we are over the past 50 shows a lot of men have taken me for a ride there are many things I admire about President Reagan if drive is not one of them I hope you're a driver you know what you're doing I've advices for quite a while you probably news to the world no I don't want to get the feeling but this is the surrounding g5 of the upholstery is coming up I mean I know we have an austerity program but this is ridiculous and while we're on the subject of jeans Fidel Castro sorry on a tour of Cuba in his on the floorboard in front of me were hard candy but the children recounted and dumb so I guess whatever else we counted hello little uh take a look around hold on this is the last week by promised Alan Alda took me on a tour of the set of match you I don't think I'm gonna end up running analysis Jimmy Stewart loves animals and he insisted I familiarize myself with his passion no you just have to get used to it you've just heard when you pull up to the thing and get off not that this is more my speed but I have to admit riding with Stallone on the back of his hallway was a thrill and a first for me he loaned me his black leather jacket and then the ride was over he gave it to me want to know how Don John gets rid of his anger he can crank up his speedboat to full throttle and screams at the top of his lot you to be honest this is more my ideas about life a pleasure cruise and John Wayne's personal yacht the wild Luke I'm sorry it's gonna clear not now that we're back but a little drizzle is I have to talk like mr. make up right miss lane miss waters and I'll be going down to main salon if you had Billy bring some hot coffee I want to share something with you when I first came to ABC from NBC 12 years ago there was a lot of press on me and most of it was negative it didn't have to do with these specials in fact nobody cared much about these specials all they ever talked about was my co anchoring the evening news who does she think she is getting that kind of money often nobody wants to watch a woman anchor the news well needless to say those were dark days for me I thought as if I were drowning and the only thing that kept me going will letters of support many were from women and that made me feel very good but there was one telegram from a man that I remember most it said simply don't let the bastards get you down and it was signed John Wayne I had never met him and I can't tell you what those words meant to me several years later I had the privilege for it was that of talking with him at his home in Newport Beach California do you watch your old movies on television occasionally when there's a real object like they had waited the red wedge on the other night I liked it until I fell asleep I it on The Late Late will even it how do you feel well it's it's kind of irritating to see I was a good-looking 40 year old man suddenly I can look over here and see this 71 year old you're not a bad-looking so much well yeah all good I'm and I'm not squawking but you know let's say you kind of thing kind it was pretty wonderful there at this point in your life having faith illness I guess having faced the prospect of of death are you do you have a philosophy do you have a point of view that you think kind of sums up your thinking today listen I spoke to the man up there on many occasions and I have but I've always had deep faith that there is a Supreme Being there has to be you know just to me that's just a normal thing to have that kind of faith the fact that he's let me stick around a little longer or Sheen let me picture uh certainly goes great with me and then and I want to hang around as long as I'm healthy and not in anybody's way hasn't been a good life great for me I'm great for me you're in there probably you had to do all over again I'd do it too soon anyway stick around for a while along the way I sure want to the next day John Wayne went into the hospital he never recovered this was to be his last interview and I think he knew it I was very moved to say the least and there have been other times perhaps the times our guests have become the most emotional when the walls really come tumbling down is when they talk of their father Patrick your father died in 1982 this I have read was terribly difficult for you it wasn't just something that you could accept [Music] honey I love that man that dude he caught me off guard firing my dad and my manager Bob LeMond the two most important men in my life are dead and I made it after my father died my passion but then I was going to make that man proud of me till I died everything he wanted for me everything he dreamed about he never got to know sure him proud oh Jesus well that was his problem he thought crying with weak Texas mentality what makes me happy it sounds so damn cliche but nature and my dad used to say you start feeling too big for your britches Goulding just go stand out there and look at that ocean and you won't get some big remember that scene and on Golden Pond where you say you never was we have to can't we be friends and you have said it's the hottest scene you ever had to do yeah it was it was it was it was hard and it was the actors nightmare too because we did it for the first moment that we rehearsed it all the way through the master and his close-up I was so full and when the time came from my close-up I dried up it was not there and it was Katharine Hepburn I said to her Katharine I need help and don't tell Dad and she knew exactly what I meant and she hid she stood in the bushes and back of me off camera and I turned and I looked into her eyes and she did this and it was in character as my mother because you know the scene right before she said to me talk to him just tell him talk to him I said I'm scared she said do it and it was Kate Hepburn to Jane Fonda saying I know what this means to you my god you turn around you tell him [Applause] I don't want anything it just it seems that you would be Adam and at each other be so long I mean we were mad at oh he just didn't like each other he didn't cry I waited until his last close-up to touch Anna didn't expect I want to be your friend oh this man you'd come around more often you lock your mother he but tears well it in his eyes our car come around more often certainly I think that from the beginning he was one of the greats he always said I'm not in it for awards but he was happy when he won ah thank God he won I know he would and you all went there that night to be with I took the award for him and I took it to him and it was I think the happiest moment of my life next Katharine Hepburn on being a tree [Music] are you aware of the invitations that people do review the calla lilies are looming it is such a strange flower my name is bond James Bond what a dump famous people doing the things they're famous for over the years we've tried very hard to get some of these famous people to do things they're not so famous for [Music] well can't you come here Michael row the boat ashore I'm telling the truth you're beautiful you're simply quick love you Amazing Grace how sweet the sound that saved a wretch like me in slumbers kiss your eyes smiles await you when you rise sleep pretty baby do not cry twas the night before Christmas when all through the house not a creature was stirring not even a mouse all the good what usually I have to count down along is lollipop good trip to the candy shop where the lights are okay on the good ship smiley oh there's an embarrassing footnote to that last performance Christie Brinkley sang the good ship lollipop at the end of one of our Academy Award night specials immediately after her performance the Academy kicked off the show with a tribute to Shirley Temple there was the old clip of Shirley singing the same song and Shirley Temple black was there to pick up the award the next day I was blasted for making fun of America's Sweetheart but I swear I didn't know about the tribute and I'd like to say I'm sorry to both Kristy and Shirley for this uncomfortable moment and there have been others well I wanted by far the song ha douche my feet after [Music] probably only fair but since I put so many celebrities in the spot that they should turn the tables on me I have performed with some of the best over the years and you're about to see why I have never been asked back gentlemen a purse one two three one now why did you not just tap it so already some load and in the rain we're saying it in the rain [Music] [Music] you could go back yeah wonderful [Music] and finally people ask me who I can interview again and again and never get bored well there are many names that come to mind for example shares fresh and opened every time you talk with her Barbra Streisand and Jane Fonda - of fascinating women but the answer has to be Katharine Hepburn's although she really does interviews I get the feeling she enjoys the out of conversation as much as I do this is from an interview we did in 1981 and listen to that bit where she brings up the subject of the treaty with a little luck everybody will hear why I asked that dawn question what kind of a tree are you and I'll be home free I have not lived as a woman I have lived as a man I'm in the few press what I've just done what I damn well want it to look I made enough money to support myself and I ain't afraid of being alone is that why all so you wear pants you know I didn't ask is that comfortable do you ever wear skirts by the way I have one you one where it heals funeral - my dad died I like to do my hair - no thank you define no they had to tell my friends when you talk today about the confusion in sexual roles and you know we are in a period in which women are trying so hard to have it all the marriage of their children their career I think it's very tough I know how many I have to forget I were a man I would not marry a woman for the career and I would and I talked to myself as a mother supposing little Johnny or little Khattak at the month and I had an opening night I'd want to strangle the children if you think I really put wanna strangle the children and I'd be thinking of myself but god I've got to get into the move of some matter with him and then out of my way if you see a man if you're a man you would not marry a woman with a career no I wouldn't be that big a fool I'd want her to be interested in a doctor Korea and a career is fascinating I don't know what the hell you had a marriage I think you bloody well better make the choice we are simply not men and a fascinating life sexual life is much shorter and I so don't say that against my own sex but certainly woman's sexual life is a hell of a lot shorter man of 50 can marry a girl of 25 and praise it take and keep her happy yeah you can but I mean but you babe if he's a member to dia you can still have the desire for sex even if you can di you can have the desire is perfect but your doctor will attract shall I say the best animal in the jungle what do you feel today I mean like no but I mean it's true isn't it true I don't find them I go man whatever is the passage of time now it doesn't bother me never didn't person behind it something that's really but I just say that you can't have it all if you're a woman if you're a man you have a tough time having it all what about the trends now with the older woman and the younger man we see it all I think that's fine if the younger man is the sort of slight fat oh I'm realistic I'm realistic but the animal look at your own Sam did you ever think you were sexy oh no and I don't think I'm sexy at all except to a very peculiar it's a comment on those of the invasive it isn't if they find me fascinating I'm sure there's something there RT r DS no I would say no I wouldn't be the regulation desirable female I'm a very strong I'm a become a sort of you know thing what I don't know what you know someone street my house yeah and I'll I mean it it's the sort of you know I die and that's something that people have created what kind of a tree are you if you think you're a tree I hope I'm not an elm with Dutch elm disease event withering now I'd like everybody would like to be an oak tree and very strong very pretty the fiftieth Barbara Walters special brought to you by Nike who remind you to just do it brought to you by planters there's a whole lot of nothing going on planters and mercury where comfort and control are one well the only beach interview I tried to zero in for a strong clothes when was the best when was the worst you have been described as cooking cute adorable brainy how would you describe human three adjectives if your life were a country music songs are Lionel Richie song okay were the titles II if I had a sentence that went Johnny Carson is a man who is a man rule I don't I've answered it caught me completely off as ashes very tired right now I imagine most of you can sympathize with Johnny Carson by now because the length of this program is roughly equal to the amount of time we sit and talk with each guest and so this is the time to thank every one of them for being with us and also to thank you for watching I hope you've enjoyed this show as well as the previous 49 I hope you've gotten to know the stars a bit better I hope you've gotten to know me a bit better and I hope you'll tune in early next year for our 51st special goodnight can you play me if somebody said nah Barbra woods to play the kind I sing anybody really now this is me when I'm asking as gonna quit you never did this this is just my song this is nobody else like my finger please keep it away

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Length: 95min 34sec (5734 seconds)

Published: Wed May 10 2017