That Conspiracy Theories Episode

but how good have you got to be at football right seriously if this was a sign like how [ __ ] good have you been create that scenario it's not paper on game that's how he's done it like he's played from 79 to 92. I think it'll go down go down with floams [Music] hello and welcome back to that conspiracy episode today uh with me Peter Crouch Chris Stark and statman David with me as usual yeah um I worry this could be a controversial episode because the second you start peddling conspiracy theories it can get you in all sorts of trouble and other podcast hosts have really suffered from this yes but we are not confirming this is our opinion we're just portraying news yeah and conspiracies and two sides to every story and making it what you will yeah okay well we're going to get into it properly it's all based on uh something that we said we wanted to do on the podcast which was get to the bottom of lasagna Gates this famous incident that happened in football uh involving the alleged poisoning of a lasagna which had consequences that rippled throughout football this podcast is now a hard hitting investigative podcast crowd chick the thing is it evolves uh any given moment this part than it and I think at this time we're investigating something you know perhaps quite Sinister or perhaps um it was a case of mistaken identity and it didn't happen but you make up your own minds what we have got is we've gone to the source and I think I didn't mean that um as a pun the bechamel sauce we went to the source someone who was there on the day someone who was involved in the make lasagna did it happen or didn't it we will uncover that all today yeah the Crouch you were talking to your ex-teammates who were saying it's some of the worst issues they've ever had yeah bizarre you know I've obviously played I joined Tottenham just after it but um you know Jermaine genus Robbie Keane um you know players Michael Carrick who really suffered uh on the eve of the biggest game of the season um to get into the champions league would have been massive for the club and they all got food poisoning or poisoning of some sort yeah so it's a conspiracy that you know needs a dressing and um you know we've got the exclusive on it yeah and uh that is going to be coming up a little bit later in the podcast um so excited for you guys to hear our chat it's very serious one we should point out yeah um but uh yeah serious topics it's a very serious topic crouchy uh so we thought we could do an episode leading up to that about some of the other conspiracy theories that there are in football you're going to hear the word alleged a lot in this episode um but in case we forget because we've had a couple of pints and we're likely to anything you hear in this podcast is is alleged and hopefully this warning right now can just round everything off in case there are lawyers or angry snowflakes yeah we found this all online we've not done enough research so it you know it's just a few things on the internet basically yeah um how are you boys uh before we get into it anything to report I'm good I'm good um no I've been you know quite excited for this for this podcast um what have I been up to this week not a lot yeah um I had Parents evening I had to deal with that uh which is always an intimidating experience I guess crouchy it's not too dissimilar to being called into the manager's office yeah no it's not it's not yeah Power plays and everything and yeah [ __ ] sandwiches as in like you know good news bad news good news child's very clever child's really good maths um you know but they contribute a lot in class that kind of thing oh yeah I like that it's pretty similar to mine really you know academically weak but um quite chatty yeah and polite which is all you can hope for it yeah so Lads I'd like to start off with maybe a conspiracy of my own so I was in a European country having a great time in a nightclub at the you know the early hours of the morning on Entry to the nightclub number one there was rules that were written and one of them was if you got too drunk you go and visit the happiness stand where they had sweets water and oranges right was I getting played here um interesting what do you mean in the club in the club and so you go and have a like a timeout almost go another time out you eat a SAT soon when they get back on the Dance Floor interesting wow so like half-time oranges in in a nightclub this is what they had in Belgium an incredible Place nightclubs do funky things sometimes I remember when I used to go out in Jesters in Southampton sort of legendary place I don't know if you've ever been there no no in your times no it would have been there proper student but I mean like I remember proudly [ __ ] Leisure World yeah that's not there anymore [Music] [Laughter] I mean there was like if I remember right there there was a at the time you would have been there it was an icon and Diva um that's right and also I think a strip club as well but you were actually you were in jumping jacks I was jumping jacks yeah at all times and um okay it's a student night in in that one and I always remember like I was a young player about 23 22 23 at Southampton and calf London Farm it was about 30. he found himself in the um in the student night in Hot Shots like on a Tuesday quite often yeah I found that a bit mad you've got to make the most of your time in Good Times she drinks you know good dance floor good people if you're gonna join Southampton you need to be uh in or around Leisure World yeah yeah that's the place to be isn't it um but Jesters the reason I say it is they used to be a guy and I always remember being in there battered and confused when a guy would walk around selling fish and and a nightclub wasn't an appropriate place to do that was it a cockroach yeah man used to come around pubs a lot in Southampton no just in general I remember on a Friday night I used to play for West Middlesex Colts we used to drink in my daddy's drinking the White Lodge Club I'll have a black currant lemonade and uh the cockle man used to come round and to various pubs he's laughing quite a lot yeah you just buy like cockles I got food poisoning once off it yeah but um food poisoning episode really isn't it um but the yeah I always thought it's an odd move especially as a student nightclub for The Fish Guy to be going around but it must have been getting decent business for one of the better Freddy's he's kind of fishing isn't he he's there but like with humans it's almost reverse fishing isn't it the fish trying to lure in the human yeah I mean it's dead but they're all the same it's kind of an interesting but also you know there's plenty of people in nightclubs that are after um cockles and mussels yeah surprisingly and I don't know if it happens So Much Anymore Dave but going back to your sweet thing yeah compared to the fish it's not that moved on better yeah it's probably a bit further forward and satsumas can provide a bit vitamin C going to feel better the next day but I always remember Jesters being very sticky yeah was that the fish then no that was that was just the the vomit and the uh semen and the um and the piss lovely well let us know if you visited recently you know if there's any any cockles or muscles going or is it now has it moved on to the water and oranges or if you're just in any Pub around the UK where where a fish man appears and just after a few drinks what exactly is going on and I don't know I I'm not sure if the Coco guy in Southampton is is still doing his his thing um but if he is wish him all the best obviously it makes sense in Southampton because you're close to the coast but um you know I'm not sure in isleworth where I was getting it it was the right and I assume it was a different cockle person um just before we get into the heavy conspiracies can I just burden you with a sort of it's not quite a conspiracy unless you try and work out what the agenda is behind it but it's a rule change that I've been reading about uh that's going to happen from July the first I don't know if you boys know much more about this but I think it's quite relevant to this podcast so from July the 1st ifab rule changes uh have prevented goalkeepers from taunting during penalties in this year have you seen this so just to break that down goalkeepers cannot touch goal posts and Nets they cannot uh delay execution of a penalty um they cannot unfairly distract the taker which I think is massively open to interpretation now and they cannot exhibit behaviors that fail to show respect what is the actual point of being a goalkeeper now sorry but if you can't [ __ ] house on a pen wow what is the actual point of being a goalkeeper I just think it's putting too much there's too much on a goalkeeper now it's almost like they don't want them to save him you're not allowed to leave the line which I always think is a bit iffy because it's challenging to to dive sideways right and they don't seem to control how many steps you go back and taking a a freak or how long you piss around with it or anything like that but from a goalkeeper's point of view if you can't [ __ ] house what what kind of Imagine bringing in a rule though that only because of one man like Martinez all right yeah Martinez right obviously [ __ ] in the world cup and rob a lot of people up the wrong way but it was part and past of the game like I I I I don't like all this um when people churn up the uh the players are turning up the the penalty spot I don't like um you know getting people's faces but man man on man I like I quite like the the the the psyche between the taker and the goalkeeper like I don't like when other players get involved too much well I wanted to ask you about that bit of it as well because I've noticed I noticed this with England if Harry Kane's going to take a penalty and I've seen other teams do this and Dave I don't know if you've noticed this change as well the the person who can take the penalty steps well away from everything like well away from the boss and then the enforcers come in and protect their spot so I saw Luke Shaw go in and I can't remember who else it was but it was you know one of the harder bastards in our team and um they sort of protect the spot and deal with all the arguments and everything and if you watch you just see Harry Kane on his own almost just concentrating he's not getting involved and then when the ref has then cleared everyone away from the spot the enforcers leave and then Harry Kane comes in and it's all kind of smooth process if you spotted this as well so it's something that Chelsea I think have brought to the Premier League I think it's been happening around Europe and the idea is to really free up the penalty taker's mind and make the opposition think that somebody else is taking the penalty so the housery is aimed at that player and then Harry Kane walks in and Slots a penalty home yeah which I get but I mean it's getting a bit much like this kind of housing around penalty taken is this for some reason it seems to be 22 players around a penalty spot now like this so it never used to be like that there used to be an element of respect an element of respect an element of genuinely conduct um and there's not that seems to have gone out the window a little bit but I think between the goalkeeper and the and and the player there needs to be some sort of it's a battle of Minds isn't it apparently he's like we should always score a penalty but that kind of cycle of getting in there it's been going back to since the start of time and I think you do lose something if you can't do that but then so the keeper can't do anything now but the attacker can still do the Hop is always to hear from goalkeepers and their point of view in decision because obviously we've got a striker um about a name above door on this podcast but it does feel it's all weighted towards there's nothing that's improving the work and conditions of a goalkeeper yeah I agree with that I I you know like you know my thoughts um you know I'm fully in skykers Union but I I don't think that that seems to be very fair there's going to be a lot of restrictions put on on goalkeepers and they're in a position where they you know it's a lesser percentage that they're going to save it and score than than the striker score it so you know to take more away from them does feel a bit harsh I'd also like to know what the rules are technically I mean it's a proper um uh like technicality of this candle can't happen but I don't think it's ever been explored in football that if someone digs up the spa are grounds people allowed to enter the pitch and perform maintenance on the spot or on the spots and can they be called off the bench the same way as a medic could to and the dream for me would be tits Marsh yeah Off the Bench you know it's going to be worth a lot of money unless someone younger and news in in on it now I don't know my issue now though with with the groundsman especially is like you're we're talking about conspiracies now you know what if titchmaster is an Arsenal fan and Harry Kane's on the pen right and you've employed tits watch is the best Gardener you know then what does he do does he come in and throw a weed in there Grant you've got Ground Force oh no I'm just saying the idea that you could bring Ground Force Off the Bench to go deal with the spot would be [ __ ] amazing to watch what about if you can only do that once a season so you've got a ground force card and they go around the ground and you go Radice at the time yeah but when I see these ifab rules and how they change and what makes them decide to change I do think like if if all of these are technicalities that can or can't be exploited and we're talking about little things in football goalkeeper intimidation I guess they call it whereas we just call it [ __ ] hausery um any technicality that can be exploited I think should be looked at as a tactic whether or not you choose to use it I'm simply saying if people piss around with the spot are you allowed to bring grounds people onto the pitch to um deal with it there's something to look at isn't it something's upon that um you know we're trying to make our game better and they're trying to do the same I'm not sure I think they've gone to too many lamps there I think they've gone a little bit too far with that right should we get into some conspiracies well yeah let's dive into the conspiracies we're not sure of a few conspiracies ourselves and you know Parts went on for a long time didn't it um who hit Harry redknapp you know it's like who shot Phil um you know that was something on a previous podcast wouldn't it you know where you know who shot Phil went on for ages but I mean who hit Harry yeah and you're right we had a whole podcast all about uh the the revealing of parched whose identity up to them was unknown who parched his who parched his as Pepe Reyna said so so eloquently yeah okay great so this big conspiracies in football shall we get into them Dave talk to us about conspiracies I've been I've been wrecking the internet for the for the few good ones we've got one with you know some water but I want to start with the World Cup final 98. I remember as well so Brazil France World Cup final um France absolutely hammered Brazil winning three nil but there was a little bit of controversy around R9 a shadow of himself on the pitch have you heard any theories around that no it was like a soap opera I remember watching it live and remember saying right Ronaldo's owl and there was a there was a weird kind of like Vibe around it saying he's had a maybe a fit uh in the team Hotel so they've had to take him out after and I was a massive Ronaldo fan like Instagram I just love watching him play and I was absolutely gutted that I wasn't going to see him in the in the World Cup final had been unbelievable the whole world cup and then to not be in the finals absolutely devastated and then 40 minutes before kickoff he was like named in the team and I remember the news channels the TVs everything just went nuts it was like Ronaldo's back in like what's happened I was really happy about it but then it was disappointing in the final and I thought and there's so many conspiracies as to why why this happened Runners through him Dave so so back to the the situation so Ronaldo reported to have a convulsion um in that situation but weeks after the match obviously Brazil got hammered three nil a civil lawyer got involved in Brazil and demanded answers of what happened before the game so what we've got there is Brazil had lunch in Paris they arrived back at the team hotel and according to Roberto Carlos Ronaldo broke down into tears and said he was scared of what liar had a massive game massive massive tournaments yeah all the biggest clubs in the world he was so imagine the fame of that guy our nines like it was he was beyond I suppose the pressure like I look at it like even with Neymar and you know that it's sort of like transferred to him now isn't it that kind of pressured of a of a nation that is so football and huge he would have actually used pressure I can't imagine him saying he didn't want to play in a World Cup final that's what they that's what the reports have come so moving on to four o'clock um Ronaldo had the seizure before the game when the team were eating and the team doctors thought the best thing to do was to pretend that nothing had happened and when Ronaldo woke up his teammates demanded that he was told so he was told what will happen he went to hospital for tests then removed from the starting lineup and to go to hospitals and love the test but then 40 minutes before the game as you mentioned crouchy he arrived at the stadium and the manager put him back in the starting 11. so this is how I understand it like he had a seizure of some sort he went to hospital but he must have declared himself okay to play and then therefore it was Ronaldo we're putting him in yeah because are you allowed to submit a team that late or did they just submit the team anyway in the hope that well we don't know that do we so there's a couple of conspiracies around this right there is yeah um number one sponsors such as Nike allegedly forced Ronaldo to play as they'd done a world record sponsorship deal and didn't want Brazil to appear without their star man right is this something that you can you could see so these are all just fans theories about these are alleged theories that we found online right that aren't the views of the podcast fine okay well done Dave conspiracy number two Ronaldo was drugged oh God oh God we're [ __ ] as part of a plot to make sure the Brazil Star Striker wouldn't play okay I wonder who that was by well you know as we said before ate some food in Paris playing France in the final okay I hope you're not insinuating anything Dave no I'm not insinuating anything I'm just stating fat we're just putting facts out there well be very careful conspiracy number three number three Ronaldo had medical conditions that he hid his entire career the doctors gave him painkillers which only made things worse okay I don't really understand that one conspiracy four the guardian of speculated the guardian have speculated not the podcast that Brazil were bribed in exchange for millions that they've thrown the match again easy draw for the next World Cup and will be able to host the 2014 World Cup well if you're going to sue anyone sue the guardian hang on explain them throw themselves out there explain conspiracy for then that's so why so okay let's imagine for a second that it was not in your interest to to win the tournament right why would that be I don't understand because you come second like so they come second so they lose the final and they'll be able to host the 2014 World Cup oh of course because France can't do it twice in a row yes that's that's a mad one that I I can't see anyone throwing a World Cup for eign I think the thing is is right so going by that it literally once said there they would have had to have paid millions and really what have they done they've removed just Ronaldo actually if they were really paying millions and there was some sort of transaction you would get you would do it in a different way yeah you wouldn't just take hold bosses team out yeah you wouldn't put it on one player and you like it wasn't that good though what do you mean he wasn't he was that good you know like he was take him out I feel like you've got a much better chance I know it was a good Brazil team but Ronaldo was special um okay well I think none of them we can sort of form an opinion on I mean well the way I was told it when it happened was I remember he had a seizure of some sort and then he got back into it and he didn't play very well because of I imagine you know and there was lots of people heaping on it was a pressure I did hear something about you know the the sponsorship side of things as well but that was obviously Jersey yeah which of course was a theory that you found online Dave yeah I found online I quite like the drugged one great just because it coincides with another theory that I found another theory another conspiracy theory and we're moving on from 98. we are moving on from 98. I don't know if someone is just sorry I don't know what I don't know what conspiracy I think is most likely there feels like there's a fifth option which hasn't been thought of okay um but I definitely don't want to be the same it'd be nice to hear from Ronaldo he asked me for a picture once in um in Ibiza so and you didn't think to run them through all four conspiracies should we move on to the next conspiracy theory then Dave yeah so this one is not interested I love this one I've never never heard of this one before the holy water Scandal any ideas of what might have happened so World Cup 1990. Argentina versus Brazil a big one you know massive game and what was reported by some sources obviously not our sources is that Brazil left back Branco drank some water that was given to him by Argentina physio Miguel De Lorenzo after he was going on to help one of the Argentina players going down gave him a water bottle two days later Branco complained about feeling sick and dizzy after drinking the water the water he believed to be tranquilizer laced that's come from like himself that's come from Branco himself Argentina went on to win the game one nil Diego Maradona assist you see where I thought you were going with this initially Dave was um someone has been given uh some holy water they've drunk it and you're insinuating that that is a form of doping you know normal water is it yeah it's it's has potentially some sort of miraculous uh thing that could it might that might happen around it and I thought what you were saying is that would be the conspiracy theories that someone has drunk some holy water has gone on to have an absolute like freak of the game and they were putting it down to the holy water what you're saying is actually a player was given some water and it's fell ill it's not dissimilar to like the Lasagna gate we could have felt it like off anything though couldn't he like he's he's blaming the water how do we know so the match was played in June in the afternoon temperatures around 30 degrees Yeah well but there is more to this story it goes a little bit further so Brank obviously was a little bit annoyed you know spoke to a lot of people about it he then bumped into Argentine Defender Oscar ragari at the airport in Rio de Janeiro who said to him so this is the Argentina Defender oh Claudio Claudio Branco that was a good trick we pulled on you back in Italy 90 wasn't it that was that was his quote who's confirmed that that is confirmed via the Internet [Laughter] poisoning isn't really a trick though is it like if it was if it was some uh sort of laced water that's not so much a trick is it that's just poisoning it does it feels like you could go down for that yeah it's not like house or anything it's not really it's not really it's completely cheating yeah it's completely cheating so I don't know about that one Dave in terms of conspiracy it sounds to me that um he was ill but um it's weird for someone to take the credit for it can we go further go on then 14 years on from 1990. Maradona was on Argentinian TV and admitted that the accusations were true the Argentinian bench didn't indeed have a special water bottle that was laced with Rohypnol on TV um I can't believe that yeah you've not seen this in the Premier League I've seen that no no no no Christ's Almighty well yeah it's true I mean uh unbelievable but have you seen this one from Barcelona I mean this is what like the Barcelona won I mean as far as I'm concerned we're we're all right right well um three's the magic number on these allegedly are they gonna go down go down in flames [Music] enduring an El Clasico match Lionel Messi was sending the Syrian rebels a message on how to smuggle guns into a gunfighting girl no you're finished you're finished Legend Ary do you know I've seen this one I I've seen this one have you Google this there's Pat there's a pattern of play that is sending messages to the Syrian rebels what what do you mean well read on Dave so they're talking about a goal in said El Clasico match um and according to the theory the goal starts with Iniesta which is said to signify the guns being unloaded in Lebanon then he gives the ball to Messi who dribbles from the halfway line which signifies the route the rebels should take and the obstacles they'll face until they reach the city of Daya El zua stop stop there Dave so the way Messi dribbles with a ball and the past is the root so the way Messi goes with the ball on the pitch is exactly the route that Syrian rebels need to take that's the theory but that's the theory the last bit here finally messy passes the book to Pedro in the six yard box whose scores which apparently means to send the Arms by bus to the final destination of out of Al magadin where they could be unloaded yo but how good have you got to be at football right seriously it was a sign like how [ __ ] good have you gotta be to create that scenario of a map how good at football have you got to be to be able to play a genuine game of football against an opposition score a goal score a goal and also be sending messages to Syrian rebels however Syrian rebels got the Classico as well on the box they they've been told also why why not classical why don't you just do it against you know getafe yeah so I mean like Ramos might have something to say about it what happens if Ramos has cleaned him out on the dribble then what happens the message is ruined you don't know you don't know what that translates in the in the real world do you well I don't know where I am after the water anyway now so gosh for a podcast with broken new ground today don't [ __ ] yourself though Dave I think you're all right think I'm all right yeah should we move on to another one this South American player is quite interesting oh yeah Carlos Enrique rasposo the Kaiser tell me about him crouchy we had a 20-year career in football without playing a single match in his career legendary story there's some football isn't it I'm sure there'll be loads of people who haven't heard this one before but it reminds me of the of George where his cousin or Ali Dyer who um you know pretended that he was his cousin and actually got a Premier League match in um and had no prior football experience whatsoever yeah I've managed to dupe him but yeah uh tell us the story of the Kaiser the Kaiser a Charmed influential people at football clubs showed them fake a CV as well as doing the same with journalist players and staff until he got rewarded with the new contract he even managed to convince some clubs such as Flamingo to re-sign him if there was ever a risk of having to play a match he would use a dodgy dentist to say he has a mysterious infection he would also pay players to injure him in training and fans to chance his name so he's he's paying fans to sing his name and play a switchroom and train him once amongst the players he would party with them ex-world Cup winner babetto said if you let him open his mouth that would be it he could just charm you he's one of these people in 1988 he moved to a small Club which is owned by a gangster who became frustrated with his lack of game time so the manager was ordered to sub Kaiser on in a match Kaiser found out about this so he jumped the fence he jumped the fence and punched a fan in the face after the game the chairman met Kaiser and Kaiser said the fans were abusing the chairman clever as there was as a result the chairman gave him a new contract and doubled how mad's that so unless I misunderstand this bit the story which I don't quite remember he's punched a fan in the face to get out of playing the game which is obviously a terrible thing to do you're going to get put in front of the chairman for that potential contract's going to be lost but not if you've punched the fan in the face because he was abusing the chair like that's a Salesman isn't it that's incredible or a corner I mean that's what he is basically right he's a good artist right he's a shystar have you heard this story I've heard this story yeah I think it is or it's a book um it's an amazing amazing story and you do have to them wonder is there anyone we know in the Premier League that is getting away with the same I'm trying to think of someone who's constantly injured there's been people getting away with it for a long time yeah um we shouldn't name names but I just want you crazy to have a think about those players that you train with never saw them play a game for whatever reason often injured other things going on never played a game not totally sure that they played many games in the club's previous to joining you there must be one or two on the brain there there's mustard question marks because this seems like a conceivable plan that you could get away with yeah I think I think you have to have some form of ability right but I think to stay at like the level you're at sometimes like there's so many players that I know that could have played and think oh I might get injured or you know they they had a they had a weak mentality but they had some talent but I think you do have to have some Talent you know you can't I don't know how you'd like it for this long without any talent but you must have some I I know some players that have got away with with pulling out of of games where they they could play without doubt is Wikipedia page is a thing of beauty so youth career butterfogo flamengo then look at them out of clubs and every single Club zero appearance 0 a goal yeah look at this it's not played one game that's how he's done it like he's played from 79 to 92. he hasn't played one game and just to clarify the red card for jumping into the um crowd and punching someone in the face he wasn't on the pitch yeah he did it before coming on it just heard that he was coming on this is absolutely incredible I thought this was a Blog how how have Flamenco bought him twice I can't believe it 79 um publer he played for what a Fogo Flamingo independiente big side bangu Flamingo again why are you ready you hit the big time six years America then he finished his career at botifogo not one appearance [Laughter] nicknamed the Kaiser due to his resemblance from Friends [Laughter] uh there's not a film made there has to be one if there's not a filmmaker we need to make it wow that was clear incredible there is a film here look in November 2015 Kaiser signed an exclusive agreement with UK production company nods and body entertainment uh you could tell his story on media cinematic release was completed in December 2016. Kaiser the greatest footballer never to play football had its World film um Premiere at a Tribeca Film Festival on uh 21st of April 2018. film features contributions from Carlos Alberto zico for Beto Junior and Ricardo rocker I know what you're watching I am going home to work our man can blag a almost 20-year football career as astounded me great well look lots of conspiracies we got through there coming up very shortly we have our world exclusive with a chef that was involved in lasagna gate some serious investigative journalism uh from us on that Peter Crouch podcast uh before we do that should we just do a couple of messages that you guys have sent in and thank you so much to everyone that keeps sending us messages as always feel free to slide into the DMS on our socials any of us individually or you can email us the email address is peter.crouchacast.com yeah just flying into a few because we love the messages there's a message here from darmi says I was once walking home from work and I supported a guy in a high Vis who wanted to overtake so I caught up with him and overtook a few minutes later he overtook me and the race was on um the back and forth overtaking each other continue for a fair distance and I ended up walking half a mile past my house what's great about that is the other person might not have even uh he's gone past his house that's our committed he wants to the race um but yeah we're into that and at least you won Dom that's the main thing you know yeah you've got to put your own face on the on the uh on the home time right on yeah so we've been having a lot of people getting involved with their walking experiences we've got one here from Ben message from Ben every morning walking to UNI I choose the same guy walking up the hill to race so far it's eight seven to him but I will get my Chumbawamba moment walking should definitely be in the Olympics and it's far more impressive than swimming because nearly everyone can walk but not everyone can swim we do have to point out we've had quite a lot of messages from uh people that are well into their professional walk offended Walkers kind of offended at what you were saying uh basically calling you out and saying well let's see what you could do out on there which I would actually love to see um because it's not very well threatening crouchy if you are a professional Walker but until you've seen what he can actually do well he's built for it really come walk past me yeah I've thrown it out there just say yeah you're right like challenge anyone listening right now to walk past you at speed the second and here's the thing if you walk past I'll know yeah what post crash just turn around nod and it's on crouchy you you will then be engaged in a race with crouchy if you see me about walk past me fast I'll know yeah you won't get very far this is going to be the new you know we've got everyone to kiss your ring yeah I guess the ring still goes on you though I still every now and then someone who comes over and tries to kiss her and covered thank God put [ __ ] pain to it but um yeah the kiss the rig fig was yeah but I'm gonna grab some mad mad bastards walking really fast I've got the kids you'll have to leave them a race is a race stay away from the road back up right into that Garden let me just stay with it deal with this person I'll be right back great should we do one more I've got one about a nickname oh great we love them I know you love these about you message from Ben says I used to work with someone called Peter Alcock so we nicknamed him Peter beer Willie it's standard but it works so incredibly well yes um it's like well we used to play that game on the train I think we talked about this before but you know the stops so like cockfosters would always be vagina Heineken oh that's that's a great game it's a great game if you're ever bought on the tube you just gotta say a word like back to front like differently and get them to guess it oh I love that it's a good game one more quick nickname uh it's from Neil here says he used to play five side with a ladder we call jigsaw because he'd Fall to Pieces in the Box perfect perfect that's that's clever that's back that's back to form yeah all right lasagna Gates um I think we're gonna hand over now uh to the serious part of this podcast and we'd like you all to join in with this uh be serious this is our attempt at uh investigative journalism hard-hitting stuff that you get in a lot of other podcasts and it's about one of the most famous incidents conspiracies in football lasagna Gates yeah this is you know where we're a football podcast mainly and there is some comedy in it at times but this is where we go all True Crime um this is something that we wanted to investigate um we've managed to get the exclusive on it and we're going to do this [ __ ] thing properly yeah [Music] thanks for coming down today I really appreciate it I know it's taken a lot for you to um be able to speak on this subject um let's go back to 2006 and how did that Day begin for you it was just like normal days the team got in 6 30. business as usual we knew we had Tottenham were in the house and uh the day went smoothly until certain events unfold so how does it I mean do you regularly have football teams stay in the hotel that you are a chef in yes we do and what was your role in the kitchen that day I was part of a team of six people who are looking after the morning service and also the hospitality which included Tottenham Hotspur talking to a normal morning when you turn up at work how did you prepare to um create the lasagna well lasagna takes quite a few days to do properly you know it's a big process as the same as six Not only was it lasagna there was salads South Africa to prepare and to make a good Lagoon takes three hours to prepare for the team and don't talk us through that process well firstly supposed to have some onions some garlic then you have your beef mince which is browned off and then you mix it together and then with a little bit of love you had some chopped tomatoes tomato puree and then a little cooked down nice and gentle until you get a finished result of our beautiful lasagna so we've got to talk numbers temperatures temperatures 180 degrees about a gas about four it's about 35-40 minutes depending on size of lasagna so we'd obviously have to get verification on those numbers but um was it was there anything different on this occasion interesting people was looking for nothing the recipe was followed everything was accurate if it was wide we stuck to the detail and the brief so where do you think things went horribly wrong we all know what obviously happened that fateful day in 2006 um when did you realize something was drastically wrong it was around one o'clock when the news broke I was counting into my shift and I remember cancel the pub or the show Whiskey's taking the news got home and then I remember my parents coming and said what's wrong I was sitting there watching Gillette soccer Saturday I said look at the TV and then it just spiraled after that obviously events unfolding quite a dramatic way that afternoon player after player was taken down by a lasagna going back to the actual preparation of the lasagna was there anything unusual about the vegetables no no we're not wonky carrots or onions they were fresh season ingredients which was used for the dish what about the team that prepared the lasagna any Arsenal fans in there I can't remember I'm afraid can I ask you who you support I support West Ham was there anyone different in the team that day did anyone enter the kitchen no it was our usual team experienced chefs and young commies and they were very experienced and they've done lasagnas and other Foods many times before do you have an opinion on what took place the opinion is that everything was finally to my procedure the hotel was nice and clean but believe in just something that's very unfortunate that happens happen to certain people but you have to understand that these players players that I know characters that I know I've gone into your establishment fine and left feeling very very unwell on the Eve of a massive game to potentially get Tottenham into the Champions League um with bitter Rivals Arsenal chomping at their tails do you understand where this lasagna Gates come from I understand the sincerity of the the magnitude of the game it's also unfortunately these things happen it was very surreal and unique occasion and unfortunately there's something we cannot foresee Chef I'm gonna be straight to the point here did you poison that lasagna classical no did you or any of your team tamper with the lasagna no I can't remember the third one are you only talking now because up until now you have been silenced it's taken 17 years to get to this point to explain the story of what happened it's something that I had to give up the chest to prove innocence what do you remember from The Fallout when you're watching um soccer Saturday do you remember any specific headlines one that stood out was a newspaper article that was a Twist on the name of the hotel it was Tottenham a sick as a Marriott I didn't find that very funny okay it's not what's made you want to come here today and and talk to us about this in my opinion the point of view on put this lasagna gate to bid it's something that's been with me for 17 years as something that scarred me throughout my career and to get to this stage now has taken a lot of confidence and belief in my ability as a chef to talk to you now you're a chef in some top quality establishments right now right people are eating your food every day people are raising the food including lasagna which is a signature dish currently on the menu you still make lasagna still in the lasagna but I don't eat it it scarred me I cannot taste lasagna or even Italian food just a thought of it does put me off do you have anything to say to um fans of of Spurs or Arsenal or West Ham for that matter being a football fan myself I can understand the emotions that people go through with their team especially last game of season and as I stated before this was a surreal unique occasion he came out there wasn't a lasagna he was an illness which unfortunately the top 10 players received if West Ham were about to win the Premier League and they face Tottenham the last game and you again were cooking for Tottenham would you poison them did you at any stage see arson Wenger in the kitchen no for anyone listening or or watching this right now who might accuse you of being unauthentic what can you tell us about that day that can prove you were a chef in that kitchen I remember after the incident happens police turned up EHR the environmental health officers turned up and then the media got involved finding out pretending to be job agencies asking to speak to chefs people were coming in the restaurant taking photos of us just thinking about it now just hurts me well Chef thanks for coming again today I know we've obscured your identity and changed your voice and I appreciate your bravery frankly it means a lot to be here today to explain my side of story [Music] well um just you know I whatever he's done he's done um I'd like to thank him for his honesty um I know it was hard for him to come out and speak to us and obviously that's why we we decided to conceal his identity in his voice we did and we should say as well when you see this on uh social um obviously the full video will be out by the time you're listening to this on the podcast and you may well have seen the little teasers that have been going out we have Master's identity as well in a mask that you manage to Source crouching yeah the mass singer were kind enough to to let me um one of the outfits um and of course we wanted to we want him to feel under any threat any stage you know we just want the information and then we passed that over and and give that to you the listener yeah is there any other theories or conspiracies that listeners want to get in touch with for us to solve so I think we've got some good momentum there well you know the fact that he feels he can open up to us is a you know as a big is a big step in the right direction um you know whether or not we uncovered any of it um you know Sergeant just would bring it to the four make it make people aware of it yeah it'd be good to know if there are I think you're right Dave like any examples of questions they're never truly been answered in football like do a bit of digging um maybe do a little bit of research and if you would like us to get to the bottom of it of course we can do that just send us an email pia what's the email uh it's peter.crouch acos.com or of course through the website uh that be at crouchpodcast.com heavy stuff this podcast guys let's hope we're still going for next week's podcast I think we're fine I assume if this has gone out it's been run by some sort of uh uh well it won't have been run by lawyers we haven't got it nobody nobody will go through this we're going to put it out and see what happens if you are an aggressive lawyer listening to this just leave us alone yeah it's all a legit and we did find it all from the internet nothing's true yeah and the garden yeah um cool Chumbawamba everyone [Music]

Channel: That Peter Crouch Podcast

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Length: 49min 58sec (2998 seconds)

Published: Wed Apr 19 2023