>> TO TALK MORE ABOUT POTENTIAL TERROR THREATS IN THE U.S. I'M BRINGING IN RETIRED FBI SPECIAL AGENT ROB AND READ. IT IS GOOD TO SEE YOU. THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. COMING IS THE U.S. CURRENTLY AT A HIGH RISK FOR A TERROR ATTACK. AND IF SO, WHAT FACTORS ARE MAKING US VULNERABLE TO ONE. >> WE'RE DEFINITELY AT A HEIGHTENED RISK MORE SO THAN WE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF YEARS AND IT IS BECAUSE OF THE SOUTHERN BORDER AND WHAT IT IS IS IT'S FROM OUR POINT OF VIEW NECESSARILY OFOF WHETHERE THINK IT'S SECURE, NOT WHAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT HERE IS A SAYS THAT THINK IN TERMS OF WHAT DOES ISIS SEE AND ALL THESE THREAT ACTORS. SEE IF THEIR INTELLIGENCE IS SAYING THIS IS THE WAY TO ENTER THE UNITED STATES. THAT'S THE WAY THEY'RE GOING TO GO. AND SO THAT'S WHY IT'S THE GREATEST THREAT. WE HAVE REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE THINK WE'RE THE ADMINISTRATION THINGS. THAT'S WHAT THEY THINK. THAT'S WHY THEY'RE EXPLOITING IT. >> TELL PUT INTO CONTEXT HOW MUCH OF A HEIGHTENED RISK ARE YOU TRACKING RIGHT NOW. DO YOU THINK CONDITIONS WARRANT THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ISSUING A NATIONAL TERRORISM ALERT. >> NOT IN THAT POSITION BUT FROM MY POSITION WHERE I SAID, YES, WE DEFINITELY REQUIRE A HIGHER STATE OF ALERT THAN WE'VE EVER HAD BEFORE BECAUSE WERE NOT SEEN THESE NUMBERS LIKE WE'VE EVER SEEN BEFORE COMING ACROSS. AND WITH LOWER NUMBER OF CBP ON THE BORDER BECAUSE OF HIRING BECAUSE OF, YOU KNOW, ALL KINDS OF ISSUES AND MANPOWER AND RESOURCES AND THIS SURGE OF NUMBERS COMING ACROSS ITS LIKE FUN, TRYING TO FIND A BLACK NEEDLE IN EAST AND IN THE MIDST OF ALL THE SILVER ONCE FALLING DOWN AROUND YOU WITHIN SECONDS. IT'S THAT CHALLENGING TO DO. AND SO IT'S IT REQUIRES A LOT RESOURCES AND COLLABORATION BETWEEN LOTS OF DIFFERENT AGENCIES AND DOING APPRECIATE THAT YOU KNOW THE U.S.. >> WE'RE TRACKING THIS IMPOSING SANCTIONS ON 4 PEOPLE WITH LINKS TO ISIS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN TO US HOW THE SANCTIONS WILL MITIGATE THE THREATS WERE PROPOSED BY THE SPECIFIC INDIVIDUALS. >> THE SANCTIONS DO NUMBER OF THINGS. ONE OF WAYS I THINK SANCTIONS HELP IN THIS INSTANCE IS THAT IT? IT PUTS A MESSAGE OUT THERE THAT WE'RE ON TO YOU ARE ON TO YOUR NETWORK. AND SO IT'S GOING TO HARDIN PSYCHOLOGICALLY AGAIN. SO THE PEOPLE TRYING TO ENTER THROUGH THAT PORT OF ENTRY AND AS WELL AS OBVIOUSLY THE INDIVIDUALS I THINK IT SENDS A PSYCHOLOGICAL MESSAGE THAT HEY, THE WALLS ARE GOING UP. WHETHER IT'S PHYSICAL OR PSYCHOLOGICAL OR METAPHORICAL ON. SO IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE MORE CHALLENGING. BOTH FROM THOSE INDIVIDUALS POINT OF VIEW BUT ALSO FROM A NETWORK POINT OF VIEW. >> AND EARLIER THIS WEEK. NO ICE ARRESTED 8 INDIVIDUALS WITH TIES TO ISIS WHO HAD ENTERED THE U.S. WITHOUT BEING IDENTIFIED AS TERROR THREATS. HOW ARE INDIVIDUALS LIKE THIS ABLE TO CROSS INTO THE COUNTRY WITHOUT BEING DETAINED AND WHAT CHANGES DO YOU THINK CAN REALISTICALLY BE MADE AND N NEE TO BE MADE. NOW. >> YOU KNOW HIT IT PERFECTLY EARLIER AND THAT IS GETTING INFORMATION FROM OTHER COUNTRIES ON PEOPLE'S AFFILIATIONS OF BACKGROUNDS. THAT'S 1 CHALLENGE. THE OTHER CHALLENGES, THEIR OWN LAW ENFORCEMENT, ALL THESE OTHER COUNTRIES DON'T HAVE A CLEAR INDICATION OF THEIR OWN THREATS IN THEIR OWN COUNTRIES BECAUSE OUR OUR LAW ENFORCEMENT IN OUR COUNTRY'S EXTREMELY ROBUST IN THIS AREA. SO IT'S GOING GOING GETTING TIGHTER WHEN THEY COME IN HERE. SO GETTING INFORMATION FROM OTHER COUNTRIES FIRST GREAT CHALLENGE. AND THEN WHEN THEY COME ACROSS. IT'S JUST OVERWHELMING. YOU CAN'T CHECK EVERYONE. I CAN TELL YOU NUMBER TIMES IN MY OWN CAREER WHERE YOU HAVE A LITTLE HUGE CHALLENGE TRYING TO POSITIVELY IDENTIFY PEOPLE COMING IN. THAT'S WHY, YOU KNOW, WE FINALLY SAW THE RACHEL MOORE IN CASE BECAUSE IT WAS AN UNDOCUMENTED ALIEN THAT CAME ACROSS AND THERE'S NO WAY TO TRACK. EVEN WHEN WE HAD DNA. >> THAT IS FASCINATING. AND I DO WANT TO ASK YOU ABOUT SOMETHING THAT JORGE WAS THAT FBI DIRECTOR CHRISTOPHER WRAY WAS HIGHLIGHTING THAT MANY INDIVIDUALS DO INITIALLY CLEAR. IT INITIALLY PASSED THAT AND THAT FIRST CHECKPOINT OF SCREENING DUE TO LACK OF INFORMATION ABOUT THEM. BUT HE SAID THEY LATER WE'LL GO ON TO RAISE RED FLAGS TO HAVE ANY RESPONSE TO THAT. >> IT'S ACCURATE. YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO TRACK WHEN THEY COME ACROSS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE A FOOTPRINT YET, BUT THEN BECAUSE WE'RE COVERING OTHER PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY THAT HAVE RAISED OUR ALERTS IN OUR ALARMS. YOU KNOW, WHETHER CELL PHONE COVERAGE OR SOCIAL NETWORKING COVERAGE. IT'S WE START SEEING ONE OR 2 INDIVIDUALS THAT JUST CROSSED IDENTIFY WITH THAT NETWORK BALL. THEN THEY BECOME ON THE ALERT RIGHT THERE. AND THEN WE CAN START TRACKING THEIR MOVEMENTS AND THEIR ACTIVITIES. AND WE KIND OF RAISE IT FROM THERE. AND SO THAT'S HOW SO THEY COME ACROSS AND THEN THEY GET INVOLVED IN A GROUP THAT WERE ALREADY WATCHING IT'S CONCERNING. I'M SURE ROB. AND YOU KNOW, A LOT OF AMERICANS WOULD LISTEN TO THAT AND SAY THAT IS. >> FRANKLY TERRIFYING. THAT IS SO SCARY.
