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[MUSIC PLAYING] SPEAKER 1: Please join me in introducing Ryan Holiday. [APPLAUSE] RYAN HOLIDAY: Thank you. Thank you. Appreciate it. Appreciate it. OK. Thank you guys for having me. I did not know I'd done five Google Talks. That's pretty nuts. I'll keep writing books if you guys keep having me to talk. It's always fun. So we're going to talk today about stillness. And I think when you hear this word stillness, it might bring up some different images. Maybe you're thinking of this, or you're thinking of this, or, if you ask my dad, maybe you're thinking more of this. But I'm not that interested in that kind of stillness, although those certainly are forms of stillness. I'm interested in what you might call active stillness. So I'm interested in the stillness of John F. Kennedy in the Cuban Missile Crisis. I'm interested in the stillness of Mr. Rogers, the stillness of someone who has that kind of energy. I talked to my wife about this. The energy of-- my son goes to daycare on South [INAUDIBLE],, the energy that it takes to put 15 toddlers down for a nap at the exact same time, the energy of Mr Rogers when you watch an episode of it, or if you watch it on the phenomenon that Google helped unleash in my home which would be like a Blippy, let's say, the energy of Mr. Rogers compared to Blippy. I'm interested in the Mr. Rogers energy. I'm interested in the energy of Anne Frank sitting down in her journal. Despite all of the craziness and the horrors of the outside world, how is someone able to find a center to find stillness, to slow down, to clarify their thinking, to calm their emotions and get to a good place even if the outside place is not so great? So I'm interested in stillness for the real world. Right. And it happens at all the different major philosophical schools. And religions have their own word for this stillness. I won't embarrass myself by trying to pronounce any of these. Mostly, I write about stoicism. The two stoic concepts are apathea and ataraxia. It means to not be jerked around by internal forces and not be jerked around by external forces. So my definition of stillness is like how is someone steady even when the world is spinning very quickly around you, how to act without frenzy, how to hear only what needs to be heard, how to have equanimity and poise, interior and exterior, on command. In the Tao Te Ching their definition-- I think this is beautiful. "Careful as someone crossing an iced over stream, alert as a warrior in enemy territory, courteous as a guest, fluid as melting ice, shapable as a block of wood, receptive as a valley, clear as a glass of water." I think that's Kennedy in the Missile Crisis. That's Mr. Rogers personified. That's Anne Frank. That's what I aspire to be like in my own life. The Stoics were a little bit more laconic and less beautifully written than the Buddhists and Confucius but, I think, capture stillness in its own unique way. Marcus Aurelius writes, "To be like the rock that the waves keep crashing over. It stands unmoved and the raging of the sea stills around it." So what I thought I would do today-- I'm not going to walk you through the book. I thought I'd just walk you guys through 10 or 11 very real strategies to access this kind of stillness in the real world in the midst of a busy day, a busy life, a chaotic time in the world. And my promise to you, I will not tell you to meditate, because chances are you're not going to do it. And so what are other active, easier ways to get to that stillness? So the keys to stillness that I practice in my own life and I think you guys can practice in your life are as follows. So the first is get up early. The earlier you wake up, the stiller it is. I love the sound, and the feel, and the quiet of the house before anyone else has awoken, before the phone has started ringing, before the emails have started coming in. This morning I got up around 6:00. I do have a three-year-old and a five-month-old so it does handle the getting up early for me most mornings. But the point is you want to get up early. And you want to start whatever you're doing as early as possible in this stillness. So the idea of waking up early before the distractions, before the impositions, is really important. Slight tip for instance. I'm very anti-breakfast meetings. I don't want to start the day doing something like that. I want to start the day with whatever my creative practice or my most important work task is. So I get up early. Then my corollary to this rule is let us start the day phone-free. So my rule is that I don't touch the phone for the first 30 minutes to 1 hour that I'm awake. I use an app called Spar. I started it was 10 minutes. And then I worked my way up to 20 minutes, and then 30 minutes, and then an hour. This morning I didn't touch my phone for the first 2 and 1/2 hours that I was awake. The first thing I had to use was Google Maps to figure out where I was going. I feel like that doesn't totally count. But the point is I want to start the day from a not-- the amount of people I know whose the quality of their day is determined by whether Donald Trump went on a tweet storm while they were sleeping, or whether somebody from work sent them a bunch of emails, or they got a bunch of unsolicited texts-- we start the day too often from our back foot, because instead of going into the day intentionally, we are reactive. So I use Spar. What Spar did for me is it gamified the idea of not using the phone. So basically, when you wake up, you don't touch the phone. And then you have to check in on the app when you use your phone for the first time. And if you check in more than-- you've not been up for 30 or 40 minutes, or whatever it is, it charges you money. And then so the idea was all the winners of the challenge who made it all the way through split the pot at the end. So I found I'm using technology to help beat my technology addiction. But that's fine as long as it gets me where I want to go. But the point is, I don't want to be reactive. I don't want to be responding. If I'm waking up early so I can be in the right place so things can be still and quiet, the worst thing I can do would be to pull up technology that's telling me that that's not a good way to be. Right. So I want to start phone-free. What do I do if I'm not using my phone? Right. This is crazy. The first thing I do in the morning is I go outside. So we waited for it to be light this morning. And then I took my son for a long bike ride. We were out for about an hour. We go outside. We live on a dirt road not far from Austin. And being outside-- this is a photo from a different trip. I don't even take the phone, which means sometimes I experience things that I can't take pictures of. And I just have to be present for it like every other human being for all of human history up until a few years ago. But the point is I want to just actually be. And we talk. Sometimes we don't talk. We see things. We watch the sun go up. It's just quiet, and still, and wonderful even though, paradoxically, we are in some form of movement. So I go for this bike ride or I go for this walk. And it's wonderful. And then I return home. And the first thing I do with this energy, again, is not go straight to the phone. I don't want to waste this on email or social media. I want to use this. I want to start putting this energy into something productive. So the first thing I do is sit down with a journal. I have two or three journals that I use. I use one called the one line a day journal. And you write one sentence each day for five years so you can see on the page what you've been doing on this exact date for the last five years. I've been doing it for like 3 and 1/2 years. So I can see where I was on this day in history the year before that. It's really wonderful. Then I go and I just write in a random Moleskine, and just things that I'm thinking about, things that I'm working on, things that I'm struggling with, things that I want to get better at. And then I do the "Daily Stoic" journal, which it is my journal so it's somewhat weird. But it's just giving you a prompt. It gives you a sort of a philosophically inspired prompt for the day that you set your intention for. And then the idea is that you revisit that in the evening or the following day just to see how you did. So I want to start my day sort of intentionally. And it might seem weird as a writer that I would start the day by writing, but it's actually kind of just a warm-up. What's really interesting about philosophy is that that's what Marcus Aurelius' "Meditations" was. It's one of the few philosophical books that we have that wasn't published as a book. The most powerful man in the world wasn't writing what he thought. He was writing what he felt he needed to know for himself. And it's only a complete accident that this work survives to us. He'd probably be mortified that we're reading his diary or journal. But he's dead so it doesn't matter. The point is philosophy is not just this thing you read about one time and understand. It's an active practice. It's something you're doing with yourself. It's a dialogue with oneself. I talked about the Missile Crisis a little bit. What I think is so fascinating about the Missile Crisis is that we have Kennedy's doodles and notes from the Missile Crisis on legal pads. He would write these things to himself, sort of reminders. He would write missile, missile, missile, or he'd write consensus, consensus, consensus. He was journaling out, working out what he was thinking as he was thinking it. Journaling is not the only way to do this. I know people that doodle in the morning or sketch. But the point is to have a creative practice where there are very low stakes. And it's just sort of getting the juices flowing. Julia Cameron calls morning pages a sort of a form of spiritual windshield wipers. And I really like that analogy. Kennedy really liked boating. And so he drew these pictures of sailboats. You can imagine the entire world is about to blow itself up. And if he's not careful, he's going to contribute to that. The idea of just getting out of that, zooming out, calming his mind. You can see how valuable and important that would be. Anne Frank writes that paper is more patient than people. And so when you think about the stresses of the Missile Crisis, it makes sense why he's writing. He wants to dump out his anger, and his frustration, and his fears. And the idea's that he's workshopping where there are low stakes so he can perform better where there's really high stakes. So I think journaling is a really important part of it. Then my rule is you do the main thing right away. So the point of not using the phone, going outside, journaling, this is all about warming up for the most important part of the day, whatever that is. So again, probably a breakfast meeting not the most important thing of the day. Right. Responding to emails, not the most important thing to the day. You know, calling the airline to move your ticket, the painful, frustrating things-- going to the bank, these are not the things you want to start the day with. You want to get the most important thing out of the way as soon as possible. So my to do list, I write them on four by six note cards. It's really just a handful of things. So I've six things on my to do list. I think when you find really successful people who do a lot, you find that they're not actually doing a lot. They're just doing a handful of important things. So if I do these six things today, that will be a successful day for me. Some of these are really important. Some of them are like administrative. So the first thing I did this morning when I got up and did all my stuff was then I had an article to write. I had an email for "Daily Stoic" to write. And I crossed those off early. If I showed you my to do list now, you would see that all the important things of this list are finished. And the reason for doing that is that I feel like you control the early part of the day. But as the day goes through, your grip on the day is loosening, because things happen. You don't feel good. Somebody comes into your office with a problem. You get stuck in traffic. Whatever, right? The complexity of the day-- entropy enters the longer you're at it. And so if I can win the morning, if I can do the most successful things early when I'm coming at it from a good place, then the rest of the day is extra. Right. I could write at 2:00 PM in the afternoon. But the chances of me being in the right headspace or me having that unprotected time at 2:00 PM in the afternoon is much lower. So I want to do it at 9:00 AM or 8:00 AM, get it done, get as much of it as possible done, and then if I have a great window at 2:00 PM, maybe I'm going to keep going. But I want to get the important thing done as soon as possible. And I like to not have a list of 100 things, but like a couple of core things. Consider that a win. You keep going. You want to run up the score as much as possible. But you have to win first. Routine extremely important as far as stillness goes. Right. You might think that people who get to do whatever they want, who-- a lot of you guys I'm sure have the freedom to work from home, or you get to determine largely your schedule, or, if you're a creative like me, that's one of the perks of the job. But I find so many people struggle at this because this sort of freedom becomes chaos for them. I love the Eisenhower quote. He said, "Freedom is best defined as the opportunity for self-discipline." So how do you create order amidst the abundance or freedom that you have as far as the 24 hours that we get in each day? So order is really important. I look at someone like Winston Churchill. How did he do so much? How did he accomplish so much? He gave thousands of speeches. He served in government for like 60 or 70 years. He wrote something like 10 million words. He painted 500 paintings. How did he do all this? He was a creature of routine. He woke up at the same time every day. He did the same thing. He took a bath at the exact same temperature every day. He liked to do somersaults in the bath so they had to reinforce the floor under the bathtub because he splashed too much water. He wrote in the morning. Then he wrote a little in the afternoon. Then he did a sprint before bed. He read newspapers at the same time. He responded to correspondence at the same time. He was just a complete habit and creature of routine. And I think most great people are. It's about having a practice. And so you do something a couple times. It becomes a habit. Do it a lot of times, it becomes a routine. You do it over your life, or you do it over decades, I think it turns into ritual. It becomes almost a sacred experience. And so writing is that for me. Some of the other stuff we'll talk about is that for me. But you do it enough times. You do it in the right order, it becomes almost sacred and you don't want to break from it. I'll talk about relationships. But my favorite part of Churchill's routine is he said spouses should not see each other before noon. He's like, this is the key to a happy marriage, which I love. But the point is do it whatever way works for you. There are people who are night owls. Great. Ignore the wake up early thing. But the point is what order are you doing these things? And doing them in the same order, doing them the same way allows you to reduce the complexity, and chaos, and indecision. People like Steve Jobs wearing the same thing every day. Obama famously chose between two suits every day. Right. And then that one day he wore a brown suit and everyone lost their mind. That's not why we're having routines. It's not for other people, but for us. It's to reduce that sort of reaction inside ourselves. Something I don't do on purpose every day is I don't watch the news. I don't watch the news for a lot of reasons. I was traveling recently. You walk through the airport. It's hard not to watch the news. Why? Because CNN pays the major airports to run CNN. It's a special version of CNN that never shows anything about airplane crashes. But the point is the news is not there to inform you. The news is there to make you watch more news. I think it's important to be an informed citizen. But I think the news is often the worst possible way to get informed, at least consuming news in real time moment. The importance of hobbies is a big part of my day is this. It was a big part of Winston Churchill's day. After the First World War, he suffered a little bit of a nervous breakdown. And his sister-in-law came to him and gave him her children's paint set. She said my kids have a lot of fun with these, maybe it would be helpful for you. And he picks up painting. And he paints for the rest of his life, particularly in stressful times. After the Casablanca conference where all the Allied powers get together, Churchill drives five hours to paint a picture of a sunset in Marrakesh. Think of everything that is resting on his shoulders. Think about all the stress. But he's taking time to disconnect. He's taking time to do something that seemingly has nothing to do with being prime minister. But in fact, it has everything to do with being prime minister because it calms him down. It allows him to think clearly. The idea of disconnecting and finding restoration in hobbies is really, really important. Me, I like fishing. This is our farm. It's got enormous fish in it. And they can't go anywhere so it's really easy. But like working on the farm you'd think would be the opposite of writing. And that's why I love it. It is the opposite of writing. People go, oh, isn't having a farm a lot of work? And it's like, yes, but it's so different than my normal work that I often have all sorts of breakthroughs professionally, personally, when I'm in the middle of doing something that seems very unrelated. So whether it's feeding the cows, or fixing fences, the act of doing something so different than my creative profession helps replenish and restore me. Churchill actually wrote a book called "Painting as a Pastime." And he says the highest priority for a public person is to have two or three hobbies. And he said they should all be real. And I think what he means is your hobby you can't be following the news. Your hobby has to be like painting, or sculpting, or metal work. One of Churchill's other hobbies was brick laying. He learned how to lay bricks. And he built a series of cottages on his estate in the English countryside that stands to this day. And it was not just the hobby. It was getting outside. It was getting in the dirt. It was being lost in something very small, again where the stakes were very low. His daughters would help him so it was a family affair, but the point is the hobby it is a way to rest the mind. In the ancient world, leisure was not doing nothing. Leisure meant sort of school, right, scholae. School. It means learning, so it should be a thing that challenges you that that makes you better. And I think this is really important. Actually, Aristotle said the main question of life is what is our leisure time filled with. And so it can't be more work. It has to be something different. And the studies they've done of like CEOs and high level executives, their hobbies tend to be something-- and a friend of mine made this observation-- of they tend to be something defined by the absence of voices. So something quiet that where you lose your mind and yourself in it. So that's fly fishing, or riding bikes, or hiking. It's probably not partying, or going to nightclubs, or something like that. Right. It's something restorative and creative. But the power of hobbies is really important. I think exercise and hobbies are related. But the idea of being active, again, paradoxically, movement is a great way to get to stillness. My favorite form of exercise for stillness would be swimming. And Austin, I have to say, is the most underrated swimming town in America, which is interesting because we're totally landlocked. But Barton Springs to me is a wonder of the Earth. Where else can you swim in an eighth of a mile long pool that's the same temperature all year round? Barton Springs is the same temperature, whether it's 105 out or whether it's snowing out. And I've been there when it was snowing. It's just amazing. And so I love swimming. There's no screens underwater. Right. I think it's great. I don't know why people are trying to make these waterproof iPods happen. The whole point is that you can't listen to music underwater. I think that's what's so great about it. But I love swimming. It's repetitive enough but it's also low impact. There's like a sensory deprivation element to it. Right. I think there's something sort of womb-like to it which is why it's so therapeutic. But the point is I try to swim every day. I'm going to go swimming after this. I'll go to Deep Eddy or Barton Springs. But if you don't like swimming or if you've never been into swimming and you want to try, Austin's like the best city in America you could do this. Number two, to me, would be Sydney. If you've ever been to the rock pools in Sydney, they're just amazing. People don't know this but Mr. Rogers swam every day at the Pittsburgh Athletic Club. He had this whole ritual and this routine. He would sing a song to himself before-- he would weigh himself, sing a song, jump into the water, swim, and then go to work. The power of routine, the power of ritual. But I think exercise is such a great part of this. What I love about exercise and having this as kind of your hobby or thing you do every day, it's a guaranteed win. I've never gone swimming and then drowned. I've never gone through a run and not made it home. I might go faster or slower, but it's like an item on the to do list that if I start, I finish. And it gives me a lot of power, and control, and a way to get a win. So it doesn't matter how stressful work was. It doesn't matter the bad news that I got. It doesn't matter that I messed this up or that up, or that I just wasn't feeling it. I didn't have a good productive day. But I did manage to do this thing that I wanted to do. CrossFit's a great way to do this. I am more of an introvert, so I hate CrossFit. But the point is go do some form of exercise. Get the endorphins flowing. But the movement is a beautiful way to get to that stillness. The power of relationships. I think one of the weirdest parts when you study Buddhism is this idea that, to seek enlightenment, Buddha walks away from his family. He had a young son and he was married. To me, that doesn't really seem like enlightenment. Seems like the opposite of enlightenment. It's like, oh, Buddha's a deadbeat. That's interesting. But the power of relationships-- people I hear that say, oh, I don't have time for relationships. I don't have room for relationships. I'm focused on my career right now. Actually, I think most of the successful people that you admire, that you look up to, had some sort of relationship that was foundational in their life. You think of Angela Merkel and her husband. You think of great writers who had an endlessly supportive wife. The power of relationships, to me, is a source of stillness, because it's someone who knows you very intimately but has the ability to give you perspective about your own life, your own habits, your own tendencies, someone you can bounce stuff off to in a very safe way. Churchill said that his greatest accomplishment was convincing his wife Clementine to marry him. And he's probably right because she prevented him from committing career suicide many times. And so having someone who's totally in your corner, again who understands you, who can calm you down. In Churchill's wilderness years where he's basically exiled from political life, as a sort of a go-getter, a person who hated to be on the sidelines, there were many times where he wanted to rush back in where he was going to force his way back into politics. And it was his wife who was able to talk him down off this ledge every time. And it turned out to not just be the right decision for his career but like all of humanity is in his debt. If he had been in politics or in power while Hitler was ascendant, he would have been tossed out of office like everyone else. The power of waiting, the power of having a home to rest in was deeply important. My wife's here today. She's been a huge part of my success. But the idea of having a relationship I think cannot be more-- it cannot be over overstated enough. And again, whatever form it wants to come in for you, just the point is being an island is a really bad way to do it. And then, ultimately, even if wasn't, if it helped you get everything you wanted, I mean what's the point, right? If you're doing this all for yourself, you have no one to share it with in the end. Is that really what success looks like for you? The power of saying no, again, is a big part of it, whether it's saying no to the news or saying no to all the things that are coming your way so you can focus on the things that matter. A friend of mine gave me this framed picture of Oliver Sacks, which has Oliver Sacks' framed picture in it. But he had in his office just the word no exclamation point, meaning you have to say no to almost everything that comes your way. Early on in your career, you had to say yes to everything. That's how you got where you are. That's how you got here. But to now do what you do and to do it well, you have to say no to all the things that are not that thing. I've talked to lots of sports teams. And the performance coaches I talked to, particularly in baseball, stress this so much. Like look, to become great at sports, particularly baseball, you get great by swinging at pitches. That's how you make a name for yourself as a hitter. But once you make it to the major leagues, now it's all about plate discipline. Can you not swing at a pitch that's almost good enough so you're waiting for the perfect pitch? Can you not fall for deceiving pitches, the pitches that are designed to get you to swing that you actually have no chance of connecting with? This is really important. So for me, it's all about saying no. I don't say no enough. But I feel like if I'd said yes any more, it would be a problem. But this is my calendar for today. Google Calendar, of course, the best calendar. I have two things on my calendar. That's it. I actually tell my assistant if there's more than three things on the calendar, something got messed up. Like my goal is to have as few things in the calendar as possible. When I look at my day and it's scheduled from 9:00 AM to 9:00 PM or whatever, that's not only not my idea of success, that's not winning because I have to go do a bunch of things that other people want me to do, but I'm not going to do well at any of those things because I'm just going from appointment to appointment. And so what my thinking is if it's in the calendar, it means I'm not doing the main thing. I'm not writing. So it's awesome to be here today, but this took one hour from writing from me. And so having to actually think about it in terms of cost is really important. Having kids was really great for me in this sense too, because it used to be you would say yes because you didn't want to say no to someone. You didn't want to hurt their feelings. But having a kid crystallizes who you're taking that time from. It's like, oh, I don't to say no to this person because I don't want to hurt their feelings, but in doing that, I'm hurting the feelings of a two-year-old. Right. And who do I care about more, ultimately, right? We can often not take care of ourselves. But if we can personify who's saying no to or saying yes to is hurting, because you can't do everything, you can't be everywhere at once, is really important. We're not good at calculating opportunity cost. So we say yes. We always think we can squeeze more stuff in. But what's harder to calculate is, OK, now in this meeting you had, or this presentation you were giving, or this code you were sitting down to write, now you're coming to it at 90% capacity instead of 100% capacity. And it's really hard to calculate what the costs of that are. So it's about saying no. So the question I like to leave people with is like, what are you saying no to so you can say yes to what matters, whether that's your work, or your family, or your health. You have to say no because if you say yes, you will have no stillness. Another important part is just the idea of letting go. One of the most beautiful exercises in Stoicism is this exercise they call the dichotomy of control. And so they say, look, here is everything that's happening in the world in the course of a day, in the course of a moment, and then here's all the things that you control. Right. It's like a minuscule amount. You don't control what happens. They say you control how you respond. And so accepting that a large amount of reality is just not up to us at all, we have no say over it, is hugely important. And this goes back to my thing of not watching the news. Is me watching this affecting the outcome in any way? No. If you're watching the debates because you actually want to know who you're going to vote for, great. Now you're using this information in some way. If you're watching the debates for entertainment, guys, let me tell you, there's a lot better entertainment out there. There are professional people who entertain for a living. And you might enjoy that more than these other people. But so is this something you control? Is it up to you or not? This is a critical question. And if it's not up to you, you let go of it. You just don't care about it. It doesn't matter. It becomes irrelevant to you. And so this winnows the amount of things that you're focusing on that you care about that you have to be monitoring in your head and then allows you to not only have stillness but to be really locked in and 100% there for the things that you do control. So the dichotomy of control, it might seem like a powerlessness or a resignation, but what it's doing is it's embracing the power you do have where you do control things. And I think it's a resource allocation hack in the sense that most people are spending a good portion of their time caring about working on being anxious about things they don't control. And this comes at the cost of the things they do control. And so if we have a finite amount of energy, I want to focus that finite amount of energy exclusively on the area where it's likely to change it in one way or another. So if I have a 1% chance of influencing something, I want to bring 100% of myself to it. Being present. This is a really important part and again the dichotomy of control allows you to be present. You cannot change the past you have no control over that you have almost no impact on the future. But what you do control is like what's in front of you right now. And so the idea of being present-- I think Marina Abramovic's "The Artist is Present" performance is maybe one of the greatest athletic feats of all time. She sat for, like, 80 consecutive days from morning until night in a chair just looking. And people would cycle through and look at her for a few minutes. And just being present is so rare and so unusual that this was almost a religious experience for people. We have so little familiarity with presence that people would break down in tears just making eye contact with a person who is actually present. And if you think about how hard it is, like, she can't be thinking about how long she's been at this. She can't be thinking about how long she has to go. She can't be thinking about how bored she is. She says, "One of the hardest things to do is next to nothing." I would say one of the hardest things to do is just to be present in the moment, whatever you're doing, whether you're sitting in traffic, whether you're at the doctor's office, whether you're on a phone call. Why do we multitask? It's because we're often drifting from the task we should be on. We're sitting on a conference call and we're going to check some emails at the same time. You're sitting across from someone at dinner and you're going to check your phone. You're going to try to do these things at the same time, because what you're really afraid of is being present. And I think that's so interesting, because our power is in the present. You can't be great in the past or in the future. You can really only have control over who you are in this present moment. And in a way, it's kind of arrogant. It's arrogant to think that you could be anything other than 100% at what you're doing and perform at a high level. Are you so talented that you can only partway show up for this? Or is there someone who wants this more than you, who is going to show up 100%, and are they going to eat your lunch? The good news about the present, and we'll conclude with this a little bit, but the good news about the present is that it keeps showing up and you can start fresh. I said I wasn't going to talk about meditation, but I'm going to cheat a little bit. If you ever have meditated or tried to count your breath or be fully present, you find yourself drifting, but you can always just start over. You can always just come back to it. And so presence is something that you practice. You try to be present, and then you drift, and you come back to it. And so I try to remind myself constantly of the power of presence, of the importance of presence, to come back to it. And it's a muscle that you build up over time. And the final way that you get presence, I think, is through contentment, through enough. There's a story with Joseph Heller. He's at a party with Kurt Vonnegut. They're at the house of this billionaire. Joseph Heller wrote "Catch-22." Kurt Vonnegut wrote "Slaughterhouse Five." And Kurt Vonnegut's teasing Joseph Heller. He says, how does it feel to know that this billionaire made more money this week than your novel will make in your entire life? And Heller looks at him and he says, well, it doesn't feel great. But he's like, I have something that this guy will never have. And Kurt Vonnegut says, what could that possibly be? This guy has everything. And Heller says, I have enough, the idea of enough. It's not that contentment was complacency for Heller. He wrote many other books. They sold very well. His books were turned into movies. He taught classes. He was an active participant at the highest level of his profession, but he was doing it from a place of fullness, from a place of enough, not from a place of craving or insecurity. And I think, ultimately, our best work comes from that place of enough. If you're doing it because, oh, if I do this, then I will feel rich, or if I make this or accomplish this, then my dad will be proud of me, these are really bad reasons to do things, because those aren't things for you to earn. You're never going to fix internal insecurity with external accomplishments. You have to slow down and find contentment in the present. With my books, I have to remind myself, what I control is the writing, so I might as well enjoy this present experience, I might as well enjoy the writing. I don't control whether I'm going to be alive when it comes out. I don't control how many copies it's going to sell. I don't control whether it gets recognized by this bestseller list or this awards body or committee. What I control is whether I'm enjoying it and bringing a full sense of myself to that present moment. Tiger Woods, he's here with his father. They look like they're having fun. His father was probably a psychopath. But-- [LAUGHTER] --his father would refer to enough as the E word, like it was a swear word. And so it shouldn't surprise us that for Tiger Woods, there was never enough. There wasn't enough affairs. There wasn't enough winning. There was never enough for him. And you can see where this made him great in the short-term, but eventually it imploded and destroyed all the things that he'd worked so hard for. And then it's been a long process of rebuilding of which we are just now seeing the returns for. And it looks-- and I don't know him. I'm looking at this like an outsider. It does look like the winning is different this time. The winning is coming not from a place of need, not from a place of domination or humiliation or sort of endless greed, but coming from a place of actually enjoying the game and enjoying the process. And if he didn't actually enjoy golf for the experience of it, there's no way he could have gotten through that 10-year drought. So coming to it from a place of fullness is way better than the place of craving. So those are some tips for being still, of slowing down, actively using this as a practice in real life. I don't think it's just closing your eyes and meditating, and you magically have stillness. I think it's something that you actively participate in, that you cultivate on a daily basis. So I have one last story along these lines that sort of ties my routine together, which is that on my walks in the morning, we often go and we find Buddy. This is my donkey. His name's Buddy. We bought him on Craigslist for $100. [LAUGHTER] If you've ever seen someone liquidating a petting zoo on Craigslist, let me tell you, it was not a pretty sight. But we got him. He's awesome. And so we'll go out and see him. And he just stands there a lot of times. Like, this is what he does. And sometimes he comes and visits us. He can open the back door of the house. But we go and we visit him and he's just standing there. And when I first witnessed this, I thought, man, there's just nothing going on in this guy's head. Like, how is he standing there for so long? And then what I realized is that he's doing his job. Like, this is his job. First off, donkeys are livestock-guarding animals. So they keep coyotes-- and there's mountain lions in Texas if any of you guys are new here. He's fought off a mountain lion before. But they keep away mountain lions and coyotes and bobcats and stray dogs and all sorts of things that you don't want around cows or goats or anything like that. So he's just doing his job by being around. But as my pet, his main job, like, a successful day for him, if he doesn't die, that's a successful day. That's all that it takes. He's not comparing himself to the other donkeys. He's not wondering if he's living up to all his potential or anything. He's just present. He just is. He's just alive. As long as he's alive, that's a really successful day. And so I try to actively sort of practice that kind of gratitude and that kind of simplicity. There's a national park between Austin and Dallas, which I encourage everyone to visit. It's called Dinosaur National Monument. And you can walk out into this river and stand in a footprint left by a dinosaur 110 million years ago. There's a few of these in Texas. This isn't actually a park. There's also a creationist museum across the street that denies that the footprint is 110 million years old. Again, this is Texas. But the point is, I like standing in it and just sort of imagining that this has been going on for however long. It allows me to sort of not care about the future, not care about the past, but just feel sort of deeply connected to something that's been here a very long time. And there's also a humility in it. Like, no one in this room will leave a greater legacy on this planet that will last as long as this dinosaur has. I feel like it helps you connect it. It helps you see a bigger picture, sort of how ephemeral and short-lived our time on this planet is, which is actually the last practice I want to leave you guys with. I have a coin in my pocket and it says Memento Mori on it. And Memento Mori means "remember death." And there's a quote on the back from Marcus Aurelius. He says, "You could leave life right now. Let that determine what you do and say and think." And so the idea that life is very short, that it's very unpredictable, and it's ultimately very fragile, to me, is a source not of anxiety or worry, but of stillness. Seneca talks about how, if we can balance the books of life each day, we're never short of time. And what he means is that you want to live each day as if it might be your last day, not as if it is your last day for sure, because you don't know, but that it might be your last day. So you leave nothing unfinished. You don't waste time with worry or holding onto grudges. You don't waste your time being overactive, but you also don't waste this moment not being active enough. And so this is a source of great stillness for me. Unfortunately, he just passed. But there's a man named Richard Overton who lived in Austin not far from my office in East Austin. And I would go and sit on his porch sometimes. He was 112 years old. And I said, Richard, how do you live to be 112? Do you just take it day by day? And he was like, no, that's too long. You take it day by night. He's like, if I live through the night, that's great, and then I wake up in the morning. To me, this is the right attitude. This is the way to think about it. The final part from the Stoics as far as Memento Mori goes and what I try to think about with this coin, Seneca talks about how you don't want to think of death as something that's off in the future, that, hey, we're going to live to be 75, so you subtract your current age, that's how many years you have left. He says, no, death is something that is happening always. So he says, the time that has passed belongs to death. Like, the 45 minutes that we just spent together is dead. It's dead time. We lost it. We all just died 45 minutes. So I hope it was worth it. [LAUGHTER] But his point is the time that passes belongs to death. He says, we are dying every day. We're dying every minute. So I don't think about, oh, I have 40 years left if I live to be 70. I think, oh, I've already died 30 years. And this brings me back to the present, this brings me to a place of stillness, and then it allows me to focus on whatever is in front of me at this moment. And I hope that's helpful for you guys. So thank you very much. It's been awesome. [APPLAUSE] And we can do some questions. And I have a couple of these coins for the first people that ask questions if you were on the fence with a question. AUDIENCE: So actually on the topic of Memento Mori-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Yes. AUDIENCE: --my five-year-old hit me with the question of death-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Yes. AUDIENCE: --the other day. And so if you were to think of a parents' guide, especially with younger kids, how would you approach the topic of mortality and death? RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. I don't know. Thankfully, I haven't had to answer the question yet. But in a way, one of the reasons that question is so difficult is we're flashing forward to, like, what's this going to mean for them, right? We make it much bigger than it actually is, instead of, like, probably a short, easily forgotten, spur of the moment thing. I don't stress out when they ask me about other random stuff, right? So I'd probably just answer honestly and straightforwardly, and then they'd probably want to watch "Paw Patrol" after that, you know what I mean? I think one of the reasons that things stress us out is instead of thinking about what it is-- like, hey, this person has a question about reality, am I going to answer it or not-- we're thinking about, well, I don't want to mess them up, you know, or like if I answer this question, then I'm going to have to answer another question and then another, you know what I mean? We extrapolate out. We go, if I let them do this to me right now, what is my life going to look like, when really we should just think about what's immediately in front of us. Yeah. Here. That's closer. AUDIENCE: Other than working on your farm, what other hobbies do you have? RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. So for me, I run and swim every day. Those are sort of my hobbies. Working on the farm is a big one. And then, like, outdoorsy stuff, like hunting and fishing and that sort of thing. But I like hobbies that get you outside, that get you active. For me, having sort of a creative, but sort of like profession that requires me to sit a lot, I want to do things that are the opposite of that, you know? So scrapbooking or something is not going to be a fun hobby for me. But if you work in a restaurant, maybe it is. AUDIENCE: Thank you. RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. AUDIENCE: One of the-- oh, sorry. RYAN HOLIDAY: Oh, sorry. AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah, we'll do you first. Yeah. AUDIENCE: One of the things you talked about was managing your time-- you showed your pristine calendar-- we work at Google where there's a lot of demands in bounds-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Sure. AUDIENCE: --the calendar looks super full, we're like, oh, that's a productive day. RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. AUDIENCE: This is kind of taking that opposite view. So how do we message this maybe to peers, teams without being really-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. AUDIENCE: --now I'm a maker, clearing my schedule? RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. I do really like Paul Graham's essay on makers versus managers, and sort of deciding, like, hey, my job is knowing really clearly, is your job to be in meetings all day-- maybe it is, as it is for a lot of managers-- or are you actually expected to make something, in which case you have to be actively not being in meetings, right? And so having some awareness about where you fit in that thing is important. Marcus Aurelius says, what if you went through life asking yourself at every moment, is this necessary? And so the question for me is, like, oh, does this meeting actually need to happen or could it be a phone call? And then does this phone call actually need to happen or could it be an email? Does this email even need to happen or could we just pretend this doesn't matter, you know what I mean? And so just really being ruthless. I saw a T-shirt that was like, don't say maybe when you want to say no, you know? So not being afraid to be the bad guy on stuff and going like, guys, this doesn't need to happen, or like, sorry, I can't make it, send me a recap after. Then if that's difficult politically, just pretend to be sick a lot, so you can get your actual work done. Do you know what I mean? One of the great things about being a writer is I can go, I'm sorry, I'm on book deadline. But I'm always on book deadline. I just say this for the things that I don't want to do. [LAUGHTER] AUDIENCE: I don't want to hit someone in the head. RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah, yeah, sorry. AUDIENCE: Thanks. AUDIENCE: So was there an inflection point where you realized you wanted to write your first book? And what was the actual experience like? RYAN HOLIDAY: So the rule I usually give people who are thinking about writing books is, like, can you not do it? Like, if you cannot do it, definitely don't do it. It's like, do you have to do it? So I had ideas for books, and the fact that those books didn't become books was a sign that they weren't the right book. And that book, I felt like it would be painful if I didn't do it, because a book is a painful process. So if you can skip that, you should definitely skip it. So it's really thinking about, like, is this the thing I feel like I was put on this planet to do, not like, will this help me get speaking gigs, is this a good way to make money. There's many better ways to make money and spend your time than writing books. So if you're going to do it, you should do it because it's deeply important to you. I mean, it's rewarding in many ways, and enjoyable, but it's also like-- it's fun, but there's things that are a lot more fun. And so I'm not doing it for fun. AUDIENCE: OK. RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. Yeah. Here. AUDIENCE: Appreciate it. RYAN HOLIDAY: Sorry. Bad throw. AUDIENCE: That was on me. RYAN HOLIDAY: It's right there. AUDIENCE: [INAUDIBLE] The first one in terms of routine, [INAUDIBLE]. So-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. AUDIENCE: --with three little kids who try and run that off-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Yes, of course. AUDIENCE: --wondering, question I have on how you keep that routine while also not necessarily neglecting-- RYAN HOLIDAY: Sure. AUDIENCE: --the things that you're supposed to take care of? RYAN HOLIDAY: So for me, the transition became going from having routine to having routines, plural. So it being like, my routine is a collection of things that I do every day, and then having the flexibility to allow the deck to be shuffled. If somebody wakes up early, or somebody wakes up late, or something goes long, these are still the things I'm trying to do every day, and if I have my choice, I want to do them in a certain order, but being able to be flexible about having routines is really great. Because that also allows you to absorb travel or being sick or big interruptions. It's like, OK, here's what I do when I'm on the road, here's what I do when I wake up at 7:00, but here's how I do it if I wake up at 9:00. Or if I had to work late, here's what I do instead. Having backup plans and backup plans for the backup plans is the way to do it, I think. AUDIENCE: Cool. RYAN HOLIDAY: Yeah. AUDIENCE: What's your favorite book? RYAN HOLIDAY: Of all time? AUDIENCE: Yeah. RYAN HOLIDAY: I think "Meditations" is one of the sort of most unique historical documents in that it's the most powerful person in the world writing really honestly and vulnerable to themselves, not for an audience. So I'd probably start there. AUDIENCE: Hi. RYAN HOLIDAY: Hey! AUDIENCE: I was wondering how you determine things that you want to view at the present versus things that are worth learning from the past? So for example, you mentioned like [INAUDIBLE] that you should ingest and feel about after it has already occurred. But some things-- I mean, part of life is reacting to the current moment. So where do you make that distinction. RYAN HOLIDAY: No, that's a great question. I think I'm a huge reader and student of history. That's like the core of all my books. So I'm not saying you only focus on what's in front of you. I'm saying that when you're consuming information, you want to consume information that has a long half life, not information that's likely to be rendered irrelevant by the next piece of information. So I would rather-- it's like, if I only have this present moment and I'm going to read a book or I'm going to consume information, I want to read a book about something that definitely did happen and what people learned from it, not is this going to happen or not going to happen? Is this based on good information or bad information? You know, I don't want to read speculation. Or I don't want to read off-the-cuff opinions about things. I want to really go towards where we have some established wisdom or insight. Because that's likely to help me, both in the present and in the future. SPEAKER 1: We're going to do one more question. RYAN HOLIDAY: All right, I only got one more coin, so that's perfect. AUDIENCE: So building off of that question, as well as the [INAUDIBLE] question, in your books, there's so many great stories and so much research that has gone into all of it. how do you formulate your process from deciding what you're going to read to what is important to include-- that kind of thing? RYAN HOLIDAY: So there's an element of randomness to it, but it's also-- I try to be intentional about it. So it's like I want to learn about all the different things that I don't know. So I'm always sort of going into deep dives of topics that I don't have familiarity into that I want to study. And then when I'm reading, I'm very intentional about-- I tend to only read physical books. I read them, I'm taking notes in them as I'm reading, I'm folding pages. Then afterwards, I sort of let it sit for a little bit. And then I synthesize that information onto note cards. I use 4" by 6" note cards. Then I organize those note cards in, basically, boxes. And those stacks of note cards, when they tend to uncover patterns, become the books. And then so it's like, oh, I've found a lot of interesting stuff about obstacles. Maybe I'll write a book about that. Or ego, maybe I'll write a book about this. Stillness came from one quote that I found in one book. And then it was like, it sort of retroactively made me realize I'd been collecting stuff about this, not knowing that's what I was doing or why I was doing it. But the process of interacting with the information in multiple mediums and it being somewhat labor intensive is really important. I'm not a big fan of Kindle highlights or an Evernote file, where these things are really just going in a black hole. You think you're remembering them, but you're not. It's the process of writing them down, and moving them, and being able to physically touch them, and then have to go, OK, here I've mentioned some story. And it's on page 62 in this book. And then I've got to go to my shelf, and get it down, and read it again. By the time something appears in the books or in one of my talks, I've interacted with this story so many times, in so many different ways that I have a recall for it and a familiarity. And I feel like it gets integrated into my consciousness in a way that just highlighting it or writing a memo to myself on my phone wouldn't do it. Awesome. Yeah, thank you guys. [APPLAUSE]
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