Steely Dan Plush TV Jazz Rock Party 2000

thank you [Music] foreign [Music] 's really great I was actually trying to deconstruct that they're responsible for such hits as reeling in the Years Ricky Don't Lose That Number and uh Hey 19. and they're out now with a new album called two against nature which took him about 19 years or 20 years or so to make what is up with that why did it take you so long well we didn't do much the first 17 and a half years we were just thinking about it grew up in Northern California driving along the coast with my parents just hanging out on their pickup truck driving through the woods rural Massachusetts and they popped in a tape I was in the back seat of my mom's car we were going to school and the first time I heard firstly Dan Smith I was 15 I was rummaging through some of my mom's old tapes and having to fund Asia I was a fan since then in a bikini by the pool listening to Hey 19 when I was 16. I didn't get it feels like I've always been listening to Celia and I was listening to it when I was living on my friends around sectional sofa friends when I was a little kid I heard I think it was the Year of the Cat on my uh it is yeah when we first started stealing down we were 17 we went to a concert in Shoreline Amphitheater so you hear them live though yeah what do you remember I remember you tell them the whole audience is going like this great [Music] siren Angel a mistake what I see greetings I remember [Music] look in your eyes I don't mind I don't mind [Music] foreign [Music] I remember [Music] open your eyes I don't mind I don't mind [Music] [Applause] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you green earrings I remember [Music] look in your eyes I don't mind I don't mind foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] thank you foreign [Music] yeah [Music] thank you very much for being here and thank you appreciate it [Music] two against nature is it in any way departure from your other works or is there is there something new that fans of yours might be surprised by the secret messages are in there buried in the lyrics Walter plays most of the guitar solos [Music] you're just playing through it too then yeah I'm just playing through well we'll just hold him so so Ricky ignore it I guess I was nine years old or ten years old and I got I was given my grandmother's radio and got to listen to you know tune in a rock and roll stations which included all kinds of weird New Orleans stuff and doo-wop stuff and Jazz it was so exciting yeah it was so incredibly exciting and it also had a sound to it you know an incredible you know Ambiance that you know obviously were parts of whole Styles and musical Traditions that I knew nothing about full of emotion sex sex and emotion and you know weird teenage lore cousin Dupree is a kind of a traditional kind of traditional fun country sort of tune and uh yeah we have a little story in there you know that's uh you know maybe a little as my father would say risque [Music] thank you [Music] [Music] a big rig come back [Music] foreign [Music] never knew Els [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] like a rose [Music] please foreign [Music] [Music] for the kids [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] little uh rural narrative why do you think relatively few artists introduced humor to their songs no sense in you did you when you came together for this album did you bring your wealth of Knowledge from your previous work or do you feel that you had evolved as musicians and you wanted to try something new completely new um did we learn anything from a other stuff I I think we probably did but we forgot a lot of it as we were going along so which of the previous albums do you regard with um personal most satisfaction and why I think kind of blue is my favorite okay this is something that idea the long cherished idea of Donald mine that we would have our own Public Access TV show then they're going to bring in some kind of stuff you want to tell the band that we're not going to be playing anymore today no we are we're going to do this really quick hi we're back again and this is this is my friend Donald Fagan and this is uh Walter Becker and we're here with uh uh one of the musicians in our band uh this year which camera should I be looking in Miss Vicky cave glad to have you with us Vicki it's good to be here now tell me how did you get in a situation like this in a situation like this you asked me to come in the room uh well I meant more generally speaking you know what were you doing right before you were in our band right before I was in your band I was and still I'm doing a cabaret Cabaret I actually knew that but for the sake of the show I wanted to just ask the question yeah all right get out of here okay and uh send someone else in okay send Caroline in actually because it should be far more interesting okay [Music] thank you yes [Music] a lot of my friends [Music] insane [Music] to send me home [Music] [Music] thank you okay insane [Music] me home best fingers [Music] can't do a bad sneaker that's a real New York sort of number kind of a local deal it was one of those things that uh let me see I guess what we can classify is adult contemporary radio right now and smooth jazz funky it's Jazzy it's mellow it's got a lot of heart you know and it's got a great sense of humor you could say it's blue eyes soul you can say it's Jazz so it's a lot of things it's really the Fagan Fagan riffs and uh all Michael McDonald voice a lot of nice chunky horns smooth horns I guess the voicey falsettos man you know there's no rocks you know I mean it's still rocks and funks at the same time but I might Steely Dan right up there with Madonna and Bach it's some of my favorite music and ironically I just came back from a film festival out in the mountains I rented a car of course there was no CD player so I stopped from the gas station and what do I pick up Steely Dan's Greatest Hits it's just kind of like that chill out music that just gives you the kind of it's kind of that laid-back mood that's it's always been a it's been kind of timeless fun it's quite fun and uh did they do they play Woodstock 94 no no they didn't [Music] my step in that's free for the crew without the fires away [Music] I need you by the way [Music] tell me [Music] laughs [Music] [Applause] hahaha [Music] [Applause] [Music] let's plan a weekend [Music] Sugar Shack Pennsylvania [Music] Blazer it's nice inside who has a friend named Melanie who's not afraid to try new things [Music] take me away [Music] foreign foreign [Music] thank you just don't want to break out the hats and Hooters when Josie comes home [Music] lay down [Music] so watching she'll never say no [Music] strike at the stroke of midnight [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] she's the Bride of the neighborhood she's the wrong place [Music] hmm [Music] um oh thanks very much Josie thank you thanks very much relationship between you and your instrument one just because it's an ex like say you have an expense an expensive base in a much less expensive do you feel like more intimate with the more expensive one well you should but there's no you know it could be you know you can have like a plywood basement it sounds great but hopefully the more expensive instrument would be the best right so you would but you could call it the relations to production really yeah well let's look at it this way suppose the base was a hooker right let's say you got a thousand dollar a night hooker versus a hundred dollar a night hooker right right the hundred dollar a night hooker has what a heart of gold right so which one which one you know which one do you take on the mother speaking of mother let's look at it from a Freudian angle for a second like funny that Tom made that jump right there the mother yeah I was aware of that too but but um if you look at the the instruments is like especially like people have guitar players have you know 20 25 30 75 instruments uh uh are these you know transitional objects that is to say fetishes which goes back to something having to do with inadequate mothering or something like that uh can you repeat that no okay I mean it's sort of the winter cut sense of uh transition yeah let's look at it as object relations relation sense he's coming from an object relations perspective on this in other words rather than say you know when you're young and you know Alexa kids will have their blankie or their teddy bear or I mean it's possible that that uh you know you're you're an adult but you still have these things that you're attached to in a certain way which which makes you feel a certain way you know what I'm saying get the need for the binky Binky right that's the perfect example right so is that you know is that nice you know ESP base with the Quilted Maple uh top there is that a binky is that the question number one Binky number one that's correct cool [Applause] [Music] [Music] [Music] why take off your high heel sneakers [Music] nothing but lose [Music] as long as the Moon is [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] tonight [Music] thank you foreign [Music] I was a nerd essentially some somewhere between a nerd and a and a mendrick schmendrick you know I was sort of the didn't fit in on any level sort of really also I liked Jazz when I was pretty young my father had bought a Hi-Fi sometime around 1958 or 59 he had like three or four records and one of them happened to be a Dave Brubeck record and it was just these long you know beautiful Paul Desmond solos on this thing that's how I started listening to uh Jazz I mean the two of them are just they are such Jazz Buffs it's ridiculous and the irony is is that a lot of guys who are hardcore Jazz musicians sometimes dream of being like heavy rock and rollers and in this way these guys who are whatever rock pop Soul they dream of being in a dingy basement playing an upright piano and like you know West Montgomery kind of guitar so they just put together everything that they loved grooves incredible both of them were literature Majors or something so they love sort of Storytelling and uh sort of jazz influenced the harmonies it seems to me that they're doing is basically just writing from their heart and what they actually feel [Music] because it covers as far as I'm concerned so many different areas you know there's a bit of r b there's a bit of jazz in terms of a lot of the chord progressions and the way they kind of glue them together but then they'll turn around and do a blues [Music] they have an amazing chemistry so you can't you can't always expect to take them a certain way and just because they'll never do what you expect them to do [Music] Donald reminds me of my dad um I find them both easy to be around but I get that Donald's shy and like my father very witty and very uh at home in his work you know um very uh just made of music yeah through and through both of them [Music] you come to me [Music] loving all the beautiful [Music] famous again [Music] [Music] [Music] feels good on you [Music] big old place [Music] [Music] do this [Music] laughs [Music] [Applause] how can you look the Smite is again [Music] [Music] it's on my bus [Music] y thank you [Music] thank you [Music] it feels like a lot of the songs are more stories yeah you know stories then they've been not that they haven't been before but I think like a lot of the older lyrics are about like sex and drugs Maybe I'm Wrong yeah oh no they are you could talk to 10 different people and you know there's like 10 different interpretations yeah interpretations of what the song is about so I figured that that maybe there's codes in the songs it's the only one you've got you might use it if you feel better when you get home I always wondered what does that mean what are they talking about for me when I hit the lyrics I don't usually laugh sometimes it's like a small weeping and somebody said that they were aliens that were uh or they were beamed up by aliens that's why they have such good music and stuff like that you know it's it's very possible elusiveness see I always thought being like a backup singer you know we all did this full time we definitely have to be in the CIA because this is the best cover you could ever dream of no yeah so much down time on the road I'm not smart enough we're all [Music] all right [Music] foreign [Music] don't let it fall on [Music] when Black Friday comes [Music] you know [Music] foreign [Music] did myself [Music] [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] thanks very much last Friday [Music] just leave it on here yeah that Tempo is good uh [Music] you're telling me not to move um [Music] Cornelius was talking about the fact that he plays in the subway regularly uh to get a certain feeling so you think that's valuable yeah so Curtis has got some weird thing with the subways is here gentlemen okay what about us aren't you going to say hello to us well I I've just been in a general way you know Cornelius Bumpus are we rolling 's rolling no there seems to be you know sort of a uh I don't know how to say it the kind of a uh how would you describe it between Cornelius and and some of the other band members and maybe even between Cornelius and us are kind of I don't know tension or not not maybe not a real tension it's sort of a faux tension it's sort of a Gruff repartee I would describe it you know it's kind of yeah it's kind of like a camaraderie I think we have to go back to uh we have to go back in time yes to uh if we're really going to shed any light on this what was your first uh Cornelius what was your first professional engagement as a musician this is from the tension thing back to the first gig yeah well we're going to be jumping around okay don't let that bother you I got you okay it's like a film they can do that modern modern um you know psychoanalytic theory um posits the notion that uh many of the keys to present day uh situations are are to be discovered in the past my first exhaustive analysis of the uh events and that's and that's even going back as far as childhood and at the end you don't have time to do here now and at the unconscious always says yes so be aware of that while you're while you're uh you know digging digging can I go now [Applause] [Music] [Music] through there [Music] [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] [Music] the end of a perfect day [Music] everyone's sisters [Music] [Applause] [Music] Michelle [Music] San Francisco [Music] like this DJ that is [Music] again [Music] [Music] foreign [Music] I am the only one [Music] thank you [Music] you're gonna shake it baby you gotta shake it baby [Music] [Applause] [Music] pretty much I'm gonna take a minute here to introduce the uh thank you the entire band to my immediate right a new member of our band this year a wonderful guitar player as you've already discovered from New York City please welcome John Harrington uh behind uh John on the horn Riser tonight a wonderful musician wonderful guy and a veteran of many of our bands and many other famous bands of the 70s please welcome Cornelius Bumpus uh next to Cornelius um a player that solos uh are featured on our new record uh two against nature please welcome Chris Potter uh playing the trumpet tonight a great musician great trumpet player greater ranger please welcome Michael Lenhart from trombone another wonderful player who's uh all over our new record and going to be touring with us this summer please welcome Jim Pugh moving over into the Rhythm Section uh our drummer featured on that last number and indeed throughout the evening very happy to be playing tonight with Mr Ricky Lawson another veteran of all of our touring bands of the 90s and uh on into the New Millennium on the bass guitar please welcome Tom Barney currently seated at the fender roads piano a new member of our touring Ensemble and also our recording uh group please welcome Ted Baker moving over into the female vocalist section please welcome Miss Victoria cave next to Victoria a fine vocalist who's uh been on recordings with us and also toured with us in 1996. please welcome Carolyn Lenhart and also featured on our new recording and touring with us for the first time uh Miss Cynthia Calhoun as far as two against nature I think the whole concept of it oh yeah she's my taker but I think it's just it's all about like different people with with alternative Lifestyles it's like you know like cousin Dupree is like that's not even Norm that's not every every day but it's you know it's just it's not I'm saying these are not like their experiences but I'm sure they read and they know and they all all of this stuff and and if they're true stories you know like shames like it's like my life story but you know but but that's just my take on it okay unlike a lot of artists that are out there you know Donald Walter have a really good idea of what it is that they want you'd be surprised at the artists that are out there that really don't have a clue these guys know what they want they understand what a Groove is about what you know placement of a beat I mean they just they you know they're very complete musicians and and artists in general and that's a rare thing and it's probably the most musical gig I've ever done those guys are like a hand and glove truly uh compliment one one another's personalities Donald and Walter are type of cats that they want you to bring what it is that you do to the table as well to enhance whatever the songs are and what the music is about and that you know that I really enjoy about them where we actually ended up playing it was more it wasn't really doing [Music] you know it's more just hanging on the cords right [Music] you can try you know kind of a break Ricky or whatever you want there you know just whatever it feels good [Music] that sort of took the place of the actual intro and as soon as everyone gets it come in and that that's that you're in the intro already you know I mean one of one of the real special things about is there's such density in the writing and you know extremely intricate harmonies and stuff and it's like really really interesting from a horn player's Viewpoint I'm just I'm just kidding I'm just kidding working in the studio is uh it's very experimental in a way it's it's very free [Music] um the process was was really relaxed and I was free to fool around with things if I wanted to and it was it was fun it was pure fun and then an a major nine you see what I'm saying things I was going using the pattern you know and then you got a C sharp sharp nine and then Flatline [Music] got it okay while the music played your work bike and the light no San Francisco Knights but you were the best in town just by chance to cross the diamond with the pearls you turned it on the world around [Music] thank you I'm on the hill this stuff was laced with kerosene 's kitchen clean ER [Music] on the walls [Music] foreign [Music] [Music] on the street [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] out of here [Music] foreign [Music] foreign [Music] [Applause] [Music] [Music] thank you thank you very much question 25 that I hope you spotted one here what is the Steely Dan policy about intra band dating as opposed to contraband daily yeah or extra band dating extra band dating is out and um we had it we had a little memo about that on the website yes you did I've seen it in 96 um yeah it's under the I think we called it the new chivalry and uh it was essentially a attempt to reinvigorate the uh put some romance back in the uh in the touring process for us mostly there were there were some you know there were some you know some some disciplinary measures in case some of the other band members you know over you know just across the line you know we didn't want anyone making eye contact with no eye contact with the background singers and you know uh stuff like that I don't think they would like to speak to them either well certainly not oh [Music] every night Exchange [Music] party there's a Jason point right [Music] but he's gone the kitchen [Music] a few good years [Music] don't stop [Music] making me that lucky foreign [Music] you better move [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Applause] all right [Applause] okay Keith tell us a little about yourself Pete now let me just say Pete Pete is not a we've had musicians in our band so far Peter's not actually a musician in our band but he has a very special relationship to to to the band so okay go ahead uh what's my relationship anyway I never figured that out well that's why we're here okay uh what would you like to know tell us a little about yourself uh you know how old are you I'm 41 years old okay and you're from I'm from Long Island we're in Long Island Oceanside Oceanside Wilson Oceanside is nice that's pretty good and uh I like riding my bike I like jogging right like watching baseball and I was listening to Steely Dan records and when did you start listening to Steely Dan right now when I was about 16. 16 so that was that's a little early isn't it but that really we don't recommend that anymore you know no and it affects the uh yeah infection right now what they used to say about Mad magazine in the 50s yeah the new guidelines really um call for a sort of uh a completion or near completion of the maturation process and to have at least a high school diploma as well it comes in handy too but I barely got that so now Pete was at one time uh and uh you may still be the co- publisher and author of a fanzine may I call it that yes that's the right name called metal leg which is um tell us tell us about Metal oh it's a it's a little magazine about 30 to 40 pages and it basically uh follows you guys around that's right and uh in the Articles and photos and false rumors all manner of information in there and not only that it also has articles about people that we've worked with or people that we've known or people that uh it's like the minute they work with you guys they're they're in the meta Lake they're in the magazine right we're influential at one time or another um and that sort of thing and in many cases I've I've read articles in metal leg magazine and found out I know more about those people than I ever knew before after reading the piece yeah well it's probably good for you guys to get to know your players now you also have another what happens to me we have another job this is really a Moonlighting thing you have another job right yeah I'm a music booking agent yes and uh I owe that to you guys for getting me into music that's why I'm doing that as profession and totally influenced by your music that's kind of a business though I think you'd be sort of aggregated no actually no I'm very happy with the truth you have to deal with a lot of stuff no I don't put that many national acts I'm okay just local bands now when you when let's say you let's say you're you book a band for your club right and you've you've booked Five Guys or something and they show up and there's only four guys or there's five guys but not one of the guys that you thought you were booking or there's some other sort of discrepancy uh um some sort of uh irregularity that uh you weren't expecting in the gig and which can be traced back directly to the Musicians is that when I mean how do you how do you handle a situation I just take the money out of their pocket put it in mind yeah so you you get back at them through the pockets you're right exactly their loss is my game I say now what's this thing down at uh did you still have that thing going on at the bar bat yeah it's um on 57th Street it's the former home of media sound recording studio which I know right right recorded there or not so it was the rest of the church right it was a church it was the Manhattan Baptist Church before that then it was media sound and now it's a nightclub and that's where I book uh on the exclusive booking agency um right and but the name of my company is called razor Boy music because I had to name it after one of your songs because I owe all to you you book a lot of people who are alumni of our band or whoever yeah a lot of a lot of people that have played on your records and that play with you now will play there often mm-hmm and the minute they you know I mean we have a great time there it's a great Club [Music] San Diego yeah they're real good yeah they're pretty good now what do they like what are the guys in the Steely Dan like are they nice guys oh they're very cool I mean you know they're just big fans you know of the music and uh they play it real true to the records you know which I see I see when you guys do it you kind of like to change it up a little bit yeah they do the they kind of do it just like the sticks right now among these musicians who are alumni Ever Band are have you noticed or any of those guys like mad at us uh I better not say that there are definitely some people mad at you but I'm not going to say anything about that well maybe without what instruments without naming the individuals involved no because we understand I I wouldn't want you to become uh you have to understand because I understand your situation in this right so without without in any way asking you anything that uh would help uh that would identify any of these people let's just take uh musician a who's mad at us forget about what instrument he plays forget about any identifying characteristics or name or anything like that why is he mad at us because she stopped using them because we stopped using him then on on records or on concerts because we stopped hiring them all together right now and and so what what is there how do they interpret that fact what do they think about that we stopped hiring them because uh just because uh you guys messed up it was just a mistake it was a mistake but what does what does person a who is mad at us why why this person a imagine what they think we were thinking they probably didn't cut it oh I see so they're taking it sort of a personal criticism of their uh of their playing right pretty much [Music] above it this is your big debut it's like a dream come true [Music] I like jumping shop do this [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Music] do I love you better okay [Music] foreign [Music] thank you [Music] [Applause] foreign [Music] John Harrington on guitar all right now and person B who's mad at us another musician completely different musician who's mad at us is angry at us because because she don't know what you want because we don't know what we want it's a very fair criticism I'd have to say at this point let me ask of say say uh say out of say say there were 10 musicians that you you book that that were alumni out of the ten how many of the ten would be mad at us uh probably about three or four of them three or four yeah under 50 yeah I mean you're doing okay in that so it's about 35 percent [Music] thank you [Music] thank you [Music] we were quiet [Music] [Music] [Music] learn about the future now or maybe this is it it's not always [Music] with it is [Music] [Music] what a shame about me [Music] [Music] seems [Music] about to say hey have a nice life you touched my hands [Music] great idea very cool [Music] I said babe you look delicious [Music] [Music] [Music] Shame about me [Music] thank you [Applause] so let me get back to this thing with that because I think it's sort of interesting the guys that are men and so here's a band that you've hired to say seven or eight guys in the band right 35 of them 35 of them uh you know three or four guys in a in a typical band but you're sort of is mad at us you're using they're coming in and they're coming into the gig now and now they've got to play all our songs because that's right when we find the guys that are playing that are mad at you we try to play your music between the sets to get them even more pissed off get them with the theory the theory that that will Goose them on to an even better performance you see that's exactly what we that's what we do that's what we think that's why they're mad at us that's what it is see [Music] thank you [Music] for sure cause I'd love to turn this up traveling [Music] yes [Music] I have never met them [Music] from my head tell me he was lonely as long as days [Music] thank you [Music] foreign [Applause] foreign [Music] see the times [Music] days [Music] [Applause] are gone forever [Music] thank you [Music] [Music] thanks very much that's logic things can be really exciting but you have to work at it to make every day you know interesting anyway it's not interesting all by itself all the time not for me anyway and that's where irony comes into a certain extent and it's not that I think anyone really sets out to be ironic it's a defense you know against against you know the sort of uh uh nature red and tooth and Claw you know is there anything a drink in this car here yeah really yeah especially after that sentence yeah any sentence it ends with the word claw and then a quotation mark is there water or something

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