Spamton's Insanity, EXPLAINED! (Deltarune Chapter 2 Theory)

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Six years… Six years ago one of the most bizarre,  heart-wrenching, and thought-provoking games hit   the web. But it wasn’t just the experience  that hooked us. It was what wasn’t told   that equally enchanted us. The mystery behind  Undertale and the follow up installment Deltarune   still has us hooked to this day, and with Chapter  2 now released we have more pieces to the puzzle.   Chapter 2 introduced a ton of new characters  who all have their own quirks. But there is one   character that feels like an outlier compared to  everyone else. Someone who could definitely relate   to Jevil on a deep level. And that is Spamton,  the questionable marketing extraordinaire.   This is the story of Spamton, someone so  desperate that when given the chance for   greatness they took it… despite the brutal  consequences it entailed. I hope you enjoy. 2015 was the year Undertale dropped and  it was also the year my YouTube channel   started growing. 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So if you want  that same clip for TikTok, Instagram, or a YouTube   short - just import your clip, right click and  select auto reframe, choose your aspect ratio,   decide if you want the clip slowed down or sped  up, and then hit Analysis and let Filmora do the   work. From there, you just export the video and  you’re done. So if you want to get into content   creation, I recommend downloading Wondershare  Filmora in the description below and give it a   try for free. And a huge thanks to Wondershare for  sponsoring this video and supporting my channel. So it’s been a while since I’ve talked about  Undertale and Deltarune lore. I’ve mostly been   diving into the world of Nintendo recently and  creating my own slew of mysteries within the world   of Zardy’s Maze. But while I love creating stories  and mysteries I also enjoy trying to figure out   the mysteries from the games that I love. So when  I found myself wandering through Cyber City and a   certain spammy fellow popped out, I wasn’t sure  how deep the rabbit hole was gonna go. Spamton,   as his name implies, is a ton of spam. He’s  everything most of us hate about misleading,   flashy, and potentially dangerous attempts to get  us to buy something or click on something online.   And he immediately starts pressuring our character  further the more we talk to him. But the thing is,   Spamton doesn’t kid around and he knows that  Kris has something unique about them. He asks   to see our heart-shaped object immediately before  bringing us into battle. Once we begin fighting,   Spamton double downs by saying quote “I’ve  never seen a heart shaped object like that   before!” Spamton says he used to be a big shot  but now he needs generosity because he has hit   rock bottom essentially. But his dialogue only  spirals further from there… As he claims he was   only ever in it for the freedom. To make  your own deals and to call your own shots.   And this dialogue can be taken two different ways.  One, in a literal career sense of prosperity and   being your own boss… But two - also in true  freedom. And that’s where things start to   get dark with this particular character. And  where things start to feel a bit familiar.   This feeling only grows stronger once we  meet Spamton in his shop in the trash area. Upon talking to him we are presented with a deal.  Deep beneath the Queen’s Mansion is a one way   ticket to being a big shot. Something powerful  is down there, but Spamton cannot get in without   your help - at least, at this point. He wants you  to buy his Keygen, unlock the basement, and then   grab an item called EmptyDisk. How he knows this  particular disk exists is unknown… But we’ll talk   about that a bit later. Pressing Spamton for more  knowledge lets us know that he used to just be   the email guy, but with this new transformation  he hopes to quote “pass that damn clown around   town”. But unlike that clown, Spamton is going  to shoot for the sky and get on the path to the   big one. And this remark is really interesting  because it’s definitely a call out to Jevil.   Two people who both lost their minds… But unlike  Jevil who was content within their cell despite   wanting us to free them, Spamton has their  sights on something bigger… Much bigger. Upon digging deeper, something very strange  happens to Spamton. In two instances he breaks   character as his eyes turn to static and his  shouting subsides. He calls someone by name…   but who is Mike? Spamton calls him a criminal.  But this encounter is only the first,   because when confronted about fear, Spamton  breaks insanity for a moment to ask for help   and to see if anyone can hear him. He then  reclaims his chaotic composure and mentions   that whoever just talked sounded like they were  talking to you… And the mystery grows deeper.   Now before I start connecting all the dots between  this it’s really important that we talk about   everything related to Spamton because our journey  with this mad lad is really only just beginning. So we buy the Keygen from Spamton, and make our  way into the secret basement of mansion. Once   we are within, we head all the way to the deepest  section to hit a switch to allow us to proceed to   where the EmptyDisk is. We pull it out of an old  machine and take it back to Spamton. We then put   him on the disk which closes down his shop, and  then we must reinsert that disk back into this   machine. But once we do so… Spamton NEO is born.  And this is really, really interesting. This fight   isn’t a joke, and he’s quite a difficult foe as  the player must both dodge and shoot during enemy   attack phases. Undertale fans will recognize  that the name NEO, and the look of Spamton at   this point is very similar to Mettaton NEO - wings  and all. And then we do our best to pluck Spamton,   string by string, from his puppet torso. But this  is only one of the two times that a NEO fight can   take place. Because if you do lots of questionably  bad things against the populace of Cyber City with   Noelle… Well, things change. The city becomes  deserted, people fear for their lives, and   Spamton seizes the opportunity to take over the  Queen’s Mansion. And then right before you seal   the dark fountain, you must then take on Spamton  NEO by yourself. In both of these fights we learn   a lot about Spamton. This guy can’t stop talking  and is quite literally a mystery lore fountain.   These lines in particular stick out a ton: Quote:  “I WON'T HAVE TO BE JUST A PUPPET ANY MORE! Or,   so I thought! WHAT ARE THESE STRINGS!? WHY AM I  NOT [BIG] ENOUGH!? It's still DARK... SO DARK! ALL YOU GOTTA DO IS [Big.] THEN WE'LL  BE THE ONES MAKING THE [Calls], KRIS! KRIS!!! TAKE THE DEAL!!! TAKE IT!!! DO YOU   WANNA BE A [Heart] ON A [Chain]  YOUR WHOLE LIFE!?” End quote. As if the hints up until this point weren’t  clear enough, Spamton is pretty straight to   the point… And we see that cursed darkness phrase  again. “It’s still Dark… So Dark.” Which is very   close to darker, yet darker. Seam mentions this  in regards to his world view when discussing   the fate of Jevil. And of course, we all know  by this point that this phrase has haunted us   since the hidden 17th lab entry in Undertale.  It’s become a recurring theme alongside the   idea that our choices don’t matter. Spamton is  clear about his desire to be able to make his   own choices and not feel like a puppet. But he  also recognizes that Kris is in the same boat…   A Heart on a Chain, so to speak. There are very  few times that we don’t actually control Kris,   and they usually happen in extension  to Kris ripping out their heart…   Their soul. After the fight with Spamton in  the normal run, he realizes that he was nothing   more than a puppet after all regardless of his  efforts. He then fades away and becomes an item. But this isn’t the end of Spamton lore  dive, because it goes even deeper. There   are multiple followup conversations we can  have with people about the Spamton NEO fight.   Heading back to Swatch, he tells us the  robot in the basement was a Lightner’s dream.   And if we remember from Undertale, Hapstablook,  the assumed ghost monster cousin of Napstablook,   became Mettaton. With Mettaton NEO being the  supposed ultimate form of the robotic body.   Swatch goes on to say that a Lightner began  creating this robot in the basement with the   color splashed from their hand, and that Swatch  helped them. But ultimately it was scrapped and   left in the basement alongside the other corrupted  data. Spamton somehow learned of this robot and   thought about harvesting the Lightner’s creation  to give himself power. So Spamton leveraged a   Lightner’s dream and securing it did give him vast  strength… But it wasn’t as powerful as a soul. Now, before we jump into theory land, if we  head back to the trash zone we finally get   some answers from Spamton’s peers. Spamton was  largely unsuccessful according to his peers.   And it’s sad because Spamton’s dream was to  make it big. But it seems that he finally   connected with the right person on the phone,  or maybe someone found him. He was now glued   to his phone and whoever was on the other line  was helping him. Spamton became very prosperous   after this and his peers became jealous. He  moved into the mansion and was at the peak of   his success when it all fell apart. It states  that whoever was helping him… Disappeared. But   it’s the last person in this line of people that  really gives us the clue we need. When Spamton was   getting evicted from the Queen’s mansion, this  person went to check on him. Quote: “I went to   his room to check on him but he wasn’t there.  There was only a phone hanging off the handle.   He must have left in the middle of a conversation  because I could still hear someone on the other   end. But when I put the receiver to my ear,  there was nothing but garbage noise.” End quote. Remember… this same thing happened to Jevil. He  met someone strange and things began to change…   And that garbage noise on the phone is the  ticket we needed. I know you’re all thinking it.   I’m thinking it too. It’s just like Jevil and  it reeks of Gaster. And to further solidify   this connection with the mysterious scientist… We  need to stumble upon a room that doesn’t exist. Heading back to Cyber City, it’s possible to find  a room between rooms. This is something we’re   familiar with from Chapter 1… And in this room,  we… uh… get murdered by the Annoying Dog. Honestly   this caught me off guard so hard I couldn’t stop  laughing because I used to own one of those silly   cars as a kid. This spits us into a similar game  over screen for undertale surprisingly, but upon   reentering this area… The room is flipped and we  find our mysterious man behind the tree again.   Just like in Chapter 1, this mysterious figure  gives us an egg and then we are reminded that they   were never there. But if we pull out our phone and  make a call… Well, we are left with garbage noise   on the other end. A sound we are so familiar with  hearing since it persists all over the Dark World   through our phone… A sound from the 17th hidden  entry. But a sound that haunted Spamton as well.   Gaster, or the mysterious interferer, snapped the  mind of Spamton just like he did Jevil. And the   connections are a lot more clearer then they were  before. It’s almost like these two individuals   made a deal with the devil. I’m not saying I  understand Gaster’s stance on anything since   we know so little about him… But each person he’s  interacted with has gained remarkable abilities   and knowledge at the cost of everything. Once  these individuals realized the truth about their   game world, each one broke in a different way.  Jevil knows about stats and can spawn that creepy   True Lab Everyman during his fight that’s from  Undertale… Something only the Royal Scientists are   normally familiar with. And Spamton? He’s trying  to outrun the darkness. To break out of it and   escape his pre-determined place in the world. That  wasn’t even on his radar before his mysterious   encounter. Being a big shot meant something  entirely different back then… Back in 1997. I find this year really interesting because  it comes up several times with Spamton.   At this time the internet was really  starting to take off in terms of public use.   For a person who lived a life mostly of failures…  I really can only think of one reason that a year   would stick out above the rest. It was the year  that he made that connection over the phone.   The year his life turned around. That event  took place 13 to 22 years before Undertale,   as Frisk tumbled down in 201X. We know Alphys  took over as the Royal Scientist after Gaster,   but it’s uncertain when Gaster vanished. We know  he did vanish due to his followers dialogue,   but it’s really neat to see this connection  in terms of having an actual year established.   Because if 1997 is truly Spamton’s favorite  year, then that means Gaster probably vanished   sometime after that. Before this chapter  we didn’t have an actual window of time. But I think the most powerful thing about  Gaster’s Spamton connection is that it is   being channeled to Kris. Spamton has been by  far the most in-your-face lore-baiter when   it comes to what we don’t know about Undertale  and Deltarune. And Kris’s reaction to Spamton   fading away to nothingness has them shook. Mind  you, Gaster faded away in a similar manner and   to my knowledge the fade effect isn’t used  too often in the games. But this is one of   the only times where we get direct commentary on  fear and uncertainty for the character we play.   Lots of other times it’s hushed hushed like the  encounter with the mysterious doors to the south   of town. Given that Kris has been having crazy  experiences with their desire to separate their   soul from their body, and how Kris opened  the new fountain within their own house,   Kris has to be aware of their lack of control. And  furthermore… it might be possible that Kris has   already met Gaster prior to the start of the game.  Maybe that makes Kris worse off then anyone else.   Not only is their mind “awakened” to the truth  about the world… But unlike Spamton and Jevil,   Kris only has true consciousness a fraction  of the time. He’s rarely in control. But the   murderous knife bearing Kris and the Kris  who is scared in the basement might not be   the same person mentally. It’s hard to tell.  Only Noelle also knows what it’s like to be   abusively controlled to do things they do not  want to do… But she thinks it is Kris doing it. Spamton as a character and identity is really  all because of the connection that was made   with the mysterious phone person. Thinking  about it… It makes me wonder if Spamton’s   real name is just Mike. Much like how Mettaton  wasn’t always Mettaton. Why would someone give   themselves such a negative label right out of the  gate? Given that Spamton’s sales were horrible,   and that he had dreams he wanted to pursue, it  sounds more like he turned to spam and became   Spamton once he realized how effective it was. He  even tried mimicking the look of Swatch and the   Swatchlings to be more appealing. Spam… a  degrading, but swift shortcut to the top.   It’s the monster that he became. And for  those brief moments when he talks in letters   that aren’t all capitals… It makes me  wonder if it is Mike shining through. But given that Mike is brought  up when “friends” is selected,   maybe that isn’t the case… Which  we’ll touch on in a second. Spamton… I can’t help but think that his responses  are redacted too similar to the Gaster hints that   we are familiar with. Any time he tries to  talk about something directly it’s just a   blocked hyperlink… And if Gaster was truly spread  across time and space… And became this entity   that understands the infinite loops of a game’s  cycle and what the future holds… This insider   information would make perfect sense as to why  Spamton became an instant all star. He knew what   would be effective by what had already worked in  the future. But on the flip side, that would mean   that Gaster had already seemingly disappeared once  before. And that the disappearance we’re aware of   could be a second time - although that might not  entirely make sense. This is all theory-crafting   of course and just to get the gears going in  your head. But one last thing I want to add   since we’re on the topic of phones and a crazy  man who has phones for hands… is well that. Beware of the man who speaks in hands. We know  that phrase too well. And up until this point I   always thought it only meant Wing Dings, sign  language, or something similar. But it wasn’t   until I saw Spamton having literal phones  for hands did it get me thinking. I don’t   think phone hand Spamton is Gaster… But the fact  that Spamton was corrupted by someone speaking   to him through his hand, while holding a phone,  is only another nod to Gaster. And now we might   know how he does it. Could it be a chance phone  call that changes someone’s entire existence? That is, assuming it was Gaster who broke Spamton.  There’s another side to the coin though. And we   played out the scenario where Spamton was unlikely  Mike, but we still have one terrifying connection   to add to all of this, as more things were  discovered as I was making this video.   Mike was Spamton’s friend… And possibly  the overarching villain in Chapter 3.   Mike is known to be associated with television, as  Spamton immediately says that the man on the TV is   a criminal and we shouldn’t believe him. Which is  an odd remark… Until Kris opens the dark fountain   in their home and we see a smile creep across  the static of the TV. Now this alone is powerful,   but it’s not the end of the link. Because 1997,  Mike, and big shot have something in common…   Something quite peculiar. Commercials  that aired in 1997 for Big Shot Soda. “You need a big shot? I got  your big shot right here!” Mike Ditka, a football player turned pitchman  was commonly found on air selling various   products. He even opens up with the  commercial calling himself a big shot. “Sure out there on the grid iron I’m the big  shot… But around here it’s a different story!   Mike! So when the boss tells me to get  groceries I bring home the big shot!” So was Spamton just obsessed with being what he  thought was an amazing marketer? A celebrity who   could push product through commercials?  Even if the product itself wasn’t great?   Most of us are familiar with pitchman like Billy  Mays, Vince Offer, or Anthony Sullivan who sold us   all sorts of whacky products on TV. So this begs  the question… Is Mike an actual character or just   a TV commercial star? Spamton considered him a  friend at some point… But it’s unsure if Spamton’s   corruption ruined that friendship or if Mike  ruined Spamton. Perhaps Gaster just got to   them both. There’s a lot hinting at Mike being  the villain in Chapter 3 and the world taking   place within television programming, but it’s also  possible the smile on the television isn’t Mike. Maybe that wrong number call we got in Undertale  was Mike reaching out to Spamton. The G initial   lines up. Those in the marketing world would  have holding or disconnect music, after all. But now that I’ve shared the  story of Spamton’s downfall…   How does Gaster fit in? What’s next? Let me  know what you think in the comments below. Thanks for watching everyone, and cheers!
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Length: 16min 43sec (1003 seconds)
Published: Thu Sep 23 2021
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