How to Soundproof a Ceiling | DIY Soundproofing

so welcome to my basement guys today we're talking about soundproofing specifically because i've done soundproofing videos before right and they were very traditional along the lines of uh what the technology was at the time but over the last few years there have been some changes there's new technology on the market and so i'm going to share that with you today but on top of that going through all the comments section i see a lot of people have got the same questions they're like well am i going to be happy if i put gold what's the best option it do there's a lot of confusion what is the best way to sound proof don't make any noise [Laughter] right let's face it there are cost-benefit returns going on here the more you invest the better result you get and it's hard for a lot of people to understand you know what's a good investment and what kind of result am i going to get so today what we're going to attempt to do is go through a variety of different installations the good better the best and the ultimate we're going to give you price per square foot on material for all that we're going to show you how simple it is to install it and i'm also going to talk about why things are changing and why maybe the building code needs to change along with it so first of all most people have sound proofing issues and for two reasons one they're in the basement and they're trying to make it a livable space and you have something like this right you've got floor joists and strapping and wiring you probably have duct work as well and you're like how do i sound proof that the other thing that they're dealing with is they cut a soundproof between the walls in bedrooms now we did a video about how to make the ultimate wall soundproofing system minor modifications you can adapt the same technology with existing walls and get really good results okay better than what the soundproofing measures for stc sound transmission control between rooms in like townhouse units and that's only rated at a 50. so you gotta check out that video put the video link in the description if you haven't seen it yet because that's amazing technology and if you're gonna be building a theater in your basement or or a sound studio or you've got a drum kit and you're gonna be able to beat the living daylights out of it but you need it to be quiet if you build a wall assembly like that video and you complete it with a ceiling assembly like we're gonna show you today it's guaranteed to be the quietest way that you can finish off your house without massive investments okay this is the key most people are looking for something in the soundproofing world that isn't going to cost them 10 or 15 dollars a square foot and yes it can get that expensive so let's go through the options right now first of all when you're dealing with sound proofing you're you're dealing with the science of um stopping a sound wave and sound wave travels through air okay so whenever you have an open floor situation like this this is really easy for sound to travel there's lots of air and the wood material goes from the floor above and comes all the way down the ceiling so what everybody's been talking about is the way you stop that is you put in insulation all right here we go now fiberglass insulation runs you about a dollar a square foot material wise now for a dollar a square foot it does a pretty darn good job just one layer of insulation and then you put a 5 8 drywall back on top gets you to stc50 we're using r22 insulation here that's the rating that we use in the commercial world to separate sound noise from one unit to the next so that you hear them talking and arguing and bickering you just don't understand what they're saying so the next step up for soundproofing because this is one layer of insulation and then drywall is to put a second layer of insulation again it's another dollar okay and it does a fabulous job of adding more density more fibers because a wave comes at it and every time a wave hits a fiber it changes direction you just added eight million fibers in that space so the sound is no longer wave it's dissipating quickly and then what we recommend is you take your 5 8 drywall and you'll mount it right up over top of all that all right so you've got strapping and you've got drywall you just put in your screws and you tape your joints and you go two layers of insulation plus drywall is now at about three dollars a square foot for your material cost and this will give you an stc rating of close to 60 okay so you're better than the average bear but and here's the big butt as a homeowner looking to sound proof you're stuck going is 60 good enough right because you've never had a soundproof ceiling before they don't exist in homes so you have no practical experience of know how to apply it and so what most people do is they start going out and they spend lots and lots of extra money going way over top and it's not needed so let's talk about the options to beef it up a little bit because let's remember you know we used to just use a bedroom to go to sleep now every bedroom in the house is a personal entertainment center there's televisions there's gaming systems right you've got kids on the headphones and they're talking to each other there's a lot more noise being generated in different rooms in the house that didn't used to have it you're working from home you've got office space you've got music rooms you've got the theater downstairs we've got to get efficient at understanding how much we need in soundproofing between units and i'm going to do it in the way of dollars and cents so you can decide if it's worth the investment that's three dollars a square foot okay if you're doing a 12 by 12 room that's 144 square feet times three boom 425 dollars give or take and you can do your ceiling okay you put it in terms of that that seems affordable come on jeff let's go to the next level what else you got what's the new technology because i can do 400 maybe i want to go to 500 maybe i want to go to 700 or 800. let's talk about those options so thank god max is my videographer he just brought up a really interesting point we're going to show you something here traditional drywall and residential is half inch okay it's called ultra light and it does not have fiberglass fibers in the drywall compound when we talk about 5 8 or soundproofing drywall we're talking about 5 8 drywall it's commercial drywall okay now traditionally in commercial buildings you don't hear people in the next room because they're using insulation in the walls and using two layers of 5 8 on the wall this stuff here has got all kinds of fiberglass fibers in it it's the same fiberglass that's in the pink insulation okay and so what this does is again it's another barrier for any sound that's coming through found air between your insulation it hits this and it diffuses it again and it helps keep everything quiet the difference in cost between half inch drywall and 5 8 drywall is pennies all right it's not that much so it might be three to five dollars a sheet difference not a really big investment so since you're to have to put drywall back anyway i'm going to recommend always go with the 5 8. now i know the half inch is easier to work with because it's ultra light but if you're going to put up the 5 8 and you're going to have 12 inch 12 foot panels rent yourself a lift or grab yourself a one or two friends have them come and give you a hand to install that okay because it's definitely worth the investment if you've rented a lift or friends and you're going to be installing your ceiling so good installation is going to be one layer okay with 5 8 drywall that's a good place to start with soundproofing that will give you a little bit of privacy and you'll be able to have a conversation and you won't be able if someone's upstairs and you have an office in the basement let's say you're not going to be that distracted and they're not going to be able to hear what's going on in your conversation the better way to do it is go two layers of insulation with the 5 8 drywall okay that's three dollars now a square foot three different components the next step up would be to go to two layers of drywall believe it or not and the reason why that's so effective is because again drywall is only a dollar a square foot and you only have to do the taping on the one finished surface and you're going to have to do that anyway so adding a second layer just means you've got to buy a bag of longer screws just make sure that every time you make your assembly thicker you're taking into the full account of the assembly plus the wood that you're going into okay so that your screws aren't penetrating and nicking your wires because you're not going to see any of this once you start closing your ceiling okay so make sure you're not putting in a screw that's too long if you haven't seen this product before this is the next layer of defense okay i'm gonna recommend this product until the day i die i haven't seen anything better on the market uh yes i think it's better than um vinyl mass all right or mass vinyl sheet and i'll show you why right here in a quick demonstration this stuff is lightweight it's a three quarter inch fiber board probably should be using a mask to work with it all right but it's lighter than drywall slightly and you can just screw it right to the ceiling i'm using um flooring screws here actually because i love the robertson head okay that's with two screws this panel comes in four by eight foot sheets and so it is really convenient because that's it nothing to it right it adds three quarters to the ceiling you still need drywall and it runs about a dollar a square foot so now we got two layers of insulation two bucks sauna pan three bucks and then a sheet of drywall is four bucks you can go to five dollars a square foot and put in two sheets of drywall you could even go to six dollars a square foot and add green glue in between the two sheets of drywall all right now you're dealing with two sheets of drywall plus this three-quarter board depending on the height of your basement you might have to consider maybe not going that extreme okay now the only other thing people are asking me all the time is what about putting in lighting how do i put in lighting in a ceiling and still get sound proofing right because if i start cutting holes and putting in lights i'm destroying my soundproofing and i'm going to show you how to do that right now all right today shout out guys uh yeah it's kelly kelly did her basement remodel put brand new flooring everywhere now flooring is not a difficult project but on a huge scale it is a major undertaking i'm proud of kelly did a great job thanks for inspiring other people with sharing your picture check us out on instagram facebook guys and put in your submissions you could be next and get a shout out from us too cheers now let's get back to the video now before i show you how to make a soundproof box for your lights listen we are not sponsored in this video right the only sponsors we have are our members so if you're not a member yet consider joining so you don't have to watch three-minute stupid commercials think about it um secondly the reason we're showing the sauna pan is because it's available in canada to the best of my knowledge it's not available in the states right now if you know differently then please hit up the comment section let us know where you go to buy it okay i'd love to keep track of that especially when this video you know is coming out over the next few years um the sauna pan is available in canada the mass final isn't but the mass finals available in the states so you might have to follow the older technology for the next little while until this is available on your market okay now this is a light fixture it's going to go we have to make a hole that's almost as big as the whole light fixture right in the drywall and if you're going two layers it's the same thing right you actually have to have a hole in the first layer of drywall there's room for clips so if it's a six inch light you drill an eight inch hole on your first layer of drywall so then the second layer of drywall that's underneath you put in the six inch hole to pop the light in but now you've destroyed your drywall barrier right and how are you going to deal with that and if you have sauna pan right here as well you're going to end up cutting through all three layers to put in a light so what we do is this you mark off where you want your lights so i'm going to put a light right here okay what i'm going to do is i'm going to measure the inside dimension of my joists and that's 10 and just under a half okay so i want to cut a piece of the sauna pan just under the ten and a half mark i know this is not a fiber board like you're used to this is incredibly dense i'm going to take this board place it in between the joist cavities and just above all right now you put this where all of your lights are going to go so you're going to run your wires you're going to put a grommet on your box and you're going to have your box right and then you want to just go like this and put your box in the ceiling okay and you can even screw it in place or whatever you want to do all right now if your light's supposed to be here the wire isn't long enough is it so what you have to do is you've got to push this up all right and then you're going to push this up you want to take a couple more pieces you cut like a two inches okay and you want to put it on both sides i know it's getting really complicated isn't it and then you cut two more pieces and you put it on these sides they'll actually screw together then you take a small little hole and you run your wire through the hole and you can wire your box and you can screw it up right where you want it it's a lot of work but if you make one of these complete boxes out of the sauna pan first mount your box okay and then your lights right where you want it then the next sheet of drywall that goes up like i said you cut an eight inch hole you measure and mark your spot and you can take your dremel and you can cut as eight inch hole okay and the next sheet you go up you begin you mark your spot and you put a six inch hole that's how you run that all right quick recap good better best every time you add another layer of soundproofing it gets better it's up to you to decide how much money you want to invest if you go to installation plus the sauna pan and two layers of drywall make sure those two layers you stagger the joints okay your first four by eight goes here stagger the joists all right that helps to eliminate any air that can pass between anything again air is your enemy so every time you have a joint use an uh an acoustical sealant caulking and put it in the joint right that's really the efficiency model going on using pot lights with these boxes is the biggest improvement that you can do if you go with a room light box like this you'll never sound proof your room noise will always come through that box okay he'll drive you nuts and you can spend thousands of dollars and have these boxes and still have a really lousy performance it's going to really burn your butt build yourself a five-sided box out of the sauna pan or at the very least do it out of the 5 8 drywall okay use the acoustic sealant on all the joints bring your wire in wire your box right here there is one other thing you can do as a homeowner if you are going to do a diy project but you don't want to do the drywall and that is you can do the insulation and the sauna pan okay and then you can install a drop ceiling now we're doing that video next so make sure if you haven't yet subscribe to the channel hit the bell for notifications when that video comes out we can show you how as a homeowner all you need to be able to do is cut and measure all right and you can install your own drop ceiling with soundproofing panels they're also fire rated okay at just three inches below your whole ceiling and that is again another layer of soundproofing that you can do and it eliminates the need to know how to do drywall taping and since your ceiling is now lower than the one you ripped out you don't have to worry about the ugly mess with the tape joints all around the outside okay so if you have to open up the ceiling to sound proof putting in the drop ceiling is a great way to finish they don't have to look cheesy and ugly like they did in the 1970s okay drop ceilings i've got a lot of sexy options now especially if you're going to be making an office in your basement a drop ceiling is a great way to go because it gives you flexibility you can move the lights around you can change your wiring and schematic at any time that you want to it's just really awesome and it gives you lots of access to all of the plumbing and everything else upstairs right so consider it as an option now if you want to see the traditional way of how we would sound proof using the mass loaded vinyl and you haven't seen the video yet you can check out the link right here all right remember you're your best contractor you can do this yourself but if you're hiring somebody at least you got to know how to do it right so you can keep an eye on them too cheers

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Length: 17min 4sec (1024 seconds)

Published: Sat Feb 26 2022