Sony & Sega Devkits and Test Systems - Show & Tell

our MC is supported by monster joysticks calm level up your retro gaming with their joysticks feature in genuine San where arcade paths and one click print comm for your photos on canvas acrylic gifts and more local craftsman and global delivery [Music] la cave-dwellers welcome to the cave for a Show and Tell with our friend here Alan Alan thank you for joining us today we're talking about the weird the mysterious the strange world of console development kids in the old days you'd buy as a tech spectrum you'd buy an Apple 2 whatever it was you'd like again when you think I want to make a game like this type it out copy it to tape job done you are now a game developer and you can go and sell that in a shop when it came to the consoles well I don't know where to start really how it was inaccessible to the everyday man was absolutely yes expensive kit and today we're gonna look primarily at Sony but we do have a trick up our sleeve which will reveal later and where better to start than something that was really aimed at the hobbyists wasn't it more of a homebrew the entry point they say entry point it was an expensive entry point it was the Sony net I'm gonna let you say the name of it euros I know it's not euros a naughty arrows or euros as I keep cool in it it was developed by PlayStation creator ken Kutaragi so it was the idea of the original PlayStation developer to try and get this into the hands of people and create potentially new developers when did he get out of this one so this one was actually from a Facebook group okay and it was advertised and it was a very good price mm-hmm I saw I went and picked up bit dark and con kick-started my love of dev consoles yeah oh so it was this the first one that you've got in your one of the the first thing to point out is this is the original PlayStation in the middle of the table here but this has got like a black board finish it's really nice it's it's not that horrible soft stuff soft touch stuff that goes all Marbley and holiday this one is away you just want to talk to this guy slice it it's lovely yeah really nice and the controller which you've got somewhere matches that yeah really nice look I wish they released the original PlayStation like that well you say that but I'm fortunate this is a mark on it is very hard to clean through and at the time black who is like the Mega Drive wasn't they wanted to move away so they win with the cream 750 dollars we can't avoid the price it's quite a lot of money for a hobbyist you had to be very dedicated we did you really had to put the time into it and really learn the system just like any other other system you're developing games on you have to know the language you have to know how the machine works but as we still seen some people actually did do some very good games on this yeah so for $750 you've got the console you've got the controller let me stroller and then you've got some software so you did the development on your PC your Mac or an NEC pc-9801 there is also software okay and then how would you squirt that into your so on the back of the console with you see it looks just like a regular PlayStation and you have a serial ports I'm just here and you have a cable that plugs into syrup or your PC and then that sir today is the same as the regular one you've got the serial port on there yeah so it wasn't a standard serial cable so you had dropped the special cable okay but you couldn't use the cable on this there was still something else that you need this has a different BIOS on it as well okay so when you boo this machine they'll allow you to play any region games and also allow the the journal software to boot but you also still need this access card oh that's not memory can I see on a memory card that's an access card okay yeah it says that an access card so what's that doing so basically that allows the the software to work you do not have that and you cannot do you cannot run the development software okay so initially not that that's one card cost more than this system did when you bought this didn't come and because no we did not I think they are quite hard to find because everyone looks them thinks that is a memory card and toss it in a pile and tell us how much you paid for it that was 120 pounds yeah now hardware wise the spec of this PlayStation is to Meg RAM 1 Meg video ram half an egg of memory for the audio the same thing in there exactly son no difference there was a limitation wasn't that there was a limitation on what you can actually develop so with the real machine obviously you could stream data off of the the CD so you had the 4650 made available for your game in your audio with this you could only have a maximum file size or game size of two megabytes which is the internment all have to fit into memory at the time yes you could stream audio from the CD you could as far as I'm aware yes music but to Meg which doesn't sound a lot but we're going back to 96 yes to 596 I still doesn't sound like a lot when they would race it we want to race titles for the PlayStation in Europe ok that was less than to mix you could fit the entire game into the memory of this and you didn't need to access the CD the game textures at all everything the only thing you got the CD was the audio so you were streaming the audio so 2 men 51 red graduates a timed game yeah that's a good example really interesting system I remember reading about it in magazines I was a PC owner but I was still very interested in getting hold of that but then I saw the price so it didn't happen this actually has one other unique feature that no other PlayStation consoles ever had since this is the only consumer PlayStation that's released that could actually be multi region ok if you do that on locks you can do their normal systems obviously ps3 isn't this multi original anyway but that was the only one to actually have it built in I also remember the homebrew games made with it we're released on the official UK PlayStation Magazine seems to get a CD they would bulk out their CD with the latest games made on there and there was another commercial release which I'm gonna look down and read here devil dice a puzzle game that's not what I've heard about no apparently that fits in the to make it did stream audio but that was made using that system so it proves that it could be done in the right hands absolutely [Music] [Music] [Music] now over here we've got a very blue looking PlayStation is that just a facelift or what's going on over here what what's this system and so that is actually a debug this or test system okay so that's something a real developer would use okay so it says on the bottom here playstation programmer to a debugging station is the official name so this is probably more expensive official dev kit yeah so if you are a proper developer you would have a full dev kit which would run on a PC you'd build your game your your testing on there and then you go to the point where you're ready to test up on real kit so that is as close as you can get to our retail PlayStation while still having the debug features in there as well so there was no other bits of kit involved in the development it was a PC and this there were no there's a piece that there was actually a separate adrenaline box for for the PlayStation and some cards you put inside your PC for the build environment yeah but for testing you would have either blue one like this or some of later ones are actually a green slightly different version of hardware inside them okay same ports so I'm Paul says NTSC here so is its region looked in theory yes but you can actually bring multi-region stuff from it the reason this is different to this is because to a game on here you need to have its assigned so that the the decryption or the way to say you can't copy CDs basically this will allow you to to boot copied CDR so you can run unsigned code yes 18 just burn burn CD all day long and test them on there yeah brilliant this must have cost you a lot of money normally yes but actually I found that in a shop in Akihabara in Japan okay my last trip behind a glass case if you think soap it was certainly if you smoke at the prices on eBay in Europe or North America they are not cheap pieces of kids that cost me about forty five pounds oh sitting in a bargain bin of systems somebody must have looked at that and dis gun it's a blue PlayStation there's nothing special about it I think they possibly did that's quite a well-known retro shop I think because it's dev kit they treated it as something that maybe people really want good I don't I don't know if there's not a collecting C for the deficit in Japan but I saw it sitting in a box as I said just saw kind of corner you belvera think it's interesting that doesn't a normal system you see in their picture out saw price and yeah that was that there's no way there's not even the shop without their recently with them every this year there you go the volumes are still out there to be had you may have to apply to the other side of the world to find them they are out there you could almost buy that Senate and pay for the flight true very true the natural place to go next then is going to be the PlayStation 2 I think I see something let's go and grab that and continue our journey on dev kits [Applause] [Music] right it's playstation2 time I've got my regular ps2 slim here and a lovely machine it is - but this one is it looks like a regular first-generation if you like PlayStation 2 as they were the big thick one when they first came out but the big difference is you've got the word test on the side here bit of a giveaway yeah yeah so much like that the blue debug station that we saw earlier this is a debug version of the ps2 mm-hmm so usual the same sort of purposes as close as possible as you're gonna get to a retail console for testing your games on again multi-region it can do any any game which is why actually why I bought so originally this is my first dev system yes yeah because I didn't want to chipper an original ps2 because I thought it'd be too difficult yeah this was a good price ps2 came out in the year 2000 presumably these dev kits started to appear before that for the developers to to get their games made or did they have something a bit less refined than the stadium what we would have had many iterations before this right so this is a later yes exactly so 2032 Meg of RAM I'm totally not reading this now I'm here for mega video RAM 150 million units sold it was a very successful console what am i successful one of the few that I've bought as a early adopter and went out and got that one when it came out and I like many others was hooked him because I could play DVDs it was the cheapest DVD player on the market so a lot of people bought yeah just so happened you could play games like Gran Turismo and can't remember what one of the really early first games that came out it was almost like a Jeff Minter style game very psychedelic about a vision fanta vision for one guy yes yes yeah yes you've got a good memory that was the game that I bought with it or may even come with it and then I waited and waited and waited for Gran Turismo to came out that was the big game for me anyway I digress Chesson systems what's different about this then pretty much nothing okay it is it's just a normal machine it's got a bosses on lots so as I said you can boot any gain from it other than that it's okay is it worth as a retro enthusiastic getting hold of it just for that region unlocked capability or depends how much you want to play games of other regions yeah Elizabeth's the other way they're doing yeah there's multiple solutions you can you can use to access to those games but as a system that just plug and play and it works they're fantastic they're not too expensive as well okay certainly more expensive than regular ps2 but some hundred hundred twenty pound mark okay few extra pounds for extra bragging rights with absolutely no shelf yeah the one thing I do like is the design of this so you may or may not know that this design the patent for it complements Atari because Atari eight years earlier but our version of the Falcon which looks extremely similar to this albeit in white or beige it can be down like that came with a standard it in it so you can stand it up so an old Atari Falcon is to blame in part for the design of the PST and I think actually from memory this was broken when I got it he'll sold as me is fully working but I tried to play some games or there's also reading yeah unfortunate had to break the seal on it was I didn't want to do but I had to do loose cable inside plug the cable into the drive and it fired straight up so you think we're gonna go into the PlayStation 3 next which we will and there's some fantastic PlayStation 3 kit looking at me from the other side of the room will grab that in a minute all 18 kilograms of it it's a beast but we're gonna play the wild card now we're gonna jump from Sony to say you guy so let's grab some Sega kid and we'll see what we've got [Music] so the playstation do then is a nice-looking machine but when you compare it to something like this you look at this and this screams defecate also compared to that we're getting into the really meaty stuff now what is it that we've done that say this is a saying a katana also known as the sake of development system okay this is what you would actually use to create games okay so likely yes to run sixth generation consoles with the Dreamcast the Dreamcast was actually the first I think wasn't it of that generation came out 98 in your pass so a couple of years earlier than the ps2 but yeah I mean I can see the control ports that's pretty much the only familiar bit yeah and of course the dreamcast logo just talk us through what we've got so if you were to power this up it would look just like a regular Dreamcast and you can put your regular games into it and it will run as a nor Dreamcast okay but obviously there's a lot more aside this so as you said normal ports on the front and you also have a normal is the gd-rom drive okay so that's actually a standard draw just look like a face plate but this is actually when I first got I can find it yeah it's very confusing and then you've also got the controls here to actually say how the machine will rest when it starts up right okay that kind of goes into how your development system is is created so you have a slide switch which basically allows you to write to the flash memory you have a region selection dial which says what reason you want this machine to be so region 0 is Japan and then you can have be Europe us I think career and there's couple of others as well and they have a switch which allows you to select what sort of video you want to come out the back of this because that's water options as you'll see when we turn it round mm-hmm so that's the back oh yeah it's well labeled as well so the one that's out here is GD writer so you you could make your gold disc or for this could you yes so an option for this whilst actually have a GD writer which sits on top or underneath and it looked just like a normal CD writer but allowed you to write to blank see the arse and to GTRs as well so you could develop your game put it on from the machine and then write it from the machine because it has an internal hard disk as well onto the writer and then you test on the machine to see unusually as well I'm seeing MIDI in and out which wasn't a feature of the Dreamcast no and I actually confused me I need to deliver more research to see if they were ever use for anything the moment I actually don't know what they were useful ok standard scuzzy ports yep and various serial ports and whatnot so would you actually sit and develop on this machine or would you develop on your PC one this would be part of your development system so this would largely be where you will squirt your code down onto a new IKEA executor yeah but there would be a PC attached to this virus cozy ports which would have your development environment on there and all the tools you need to create your game then offseason is essentially where you test it out yeah yes so the Dreamcast when it came out I remember being super impressed with it it was however they are based and wasn't it was going to be 3d effects it was always a bit of a shame though as I came through I would have loved to see a 3d effects console but there was probably our based it had a pretty good processor 200 megahertz RISC processor ample ram i'm checking down here 16 mega RAM 8 mega video RAM and even when the PlayStation 2 came out afterwards the PlayStation 2 always have those early problems with anti-aliasing did this and the Dreamcast always looked crisp and smooth and and high resolution was my favorite generation of consoles really loved it as it comes off can we take a look inside absolutely okay and I see it's been a bit smashed up yes it's a bad life unfortunately I'm at least the fourth owner of this right I know the person who originally imported it from from the US when they arrived it wasn't very well packaged which is why it has quite a bit of damage on the front a bit damage to the that Itron us on the front and the drive doesn't work unfortunately Lineman so it needs a bit of a restoration right okay so this isn't usable at the moment it will boots and you cannot use controllers on anything it's the the boot screen but unfortunately will not actually boot in games is the boot screen different to regular ones okay so there's no point capturing in to show you guys it's the same and what a lovely boot screen is absolutely let's get it open and have a look at the very screwdriver there we go never meet your heroes they say standard 2000 PC we've got a scuzzy harddrive at the top there Seagate branded can we see what size that is afforded one bigger siskel support okay and is that harddrive emulating the gd-rom it can do okay it also stores all your other files you need to build your game one to run your games there's one hard drive for everyone all over yes there we go what can we see down in there yeah imagine that toward a lot of that top board is gonna be the scuzzy controllers yes I'm looking for things like the power VR logo in there right okay and then there's lots of metalwork to the airflow so we're not seeing a lot in there but thank you for letting us have a look anyway because easily damage on the front to us which is not actually connected to anything oh yes and I'm seeing lots of surface mount caps has this been recapped yeah are they of the period of terrible surface mount caps are they on they are okay so they have a reputation so we can't see a huge amount in there but we can see that it's certainly not a toy definitely this is the dev kit this is the machine that the majority of Dreamcast games were made with isn't it yes this is this is the one yes we're there more iterations than just this where are different revisions of this but this is typically one that pretty most people will remember if you were developing on this system mm-hmm I'm part of the value of buying and collecting these systems is not just the value of the system itself if the value of what might or might not be on the hard drive salutely have you ever done a bit of digital archaeology on here III something I want to do right but obviously with the the history of this machine in the damage I had when it was in transit whoever gets hard this still works whether said is going on this is it's salvageable yeah that's a mystery for another day you don't want to do anything that might make it worse even if it's just turning on to see if it spins up that could be the death of anything that's on there so yeah you give it some careful consideration well do let us know if you find a sort of an unreleased game on there you never know an unreleased train simulator that where do we go next from the Dreamcast then we get back to Sony don't wait and the next gen is ps3 so hold on to your hats hold on to your back because this is gonna be a heavy one to lift up this is I hesitate was a monster here comes the ps3 monster so we're on to coffee time and PlayStation 3 era now so after the PlayStation 2 in its DVD player the ps3 comes along with a blu-ray player tries to repeat that success of persuading people to buy into new media but also we're moving into an era and more of online services on your consoles I know there were online capabilities on the ps2 but it's now cool to the system absolutely yes and this will start with this one I know there's the beast over here which I know you're all eating to find out about but let's just talk about this one first this is the PlayStation 3 and like the two that you have it says test on the side so is this the same kind of thing essentially yes so it's a a system you can run your games on to see how they would run on a normal retail system right but obviously because of as you said this is the online age there's a lot more to these machines that you can do yeah so if you were to run this it would look like a standard ps3 you can run retail games on it but what you can't do is go online and download retail practice for games you can only download the developer builds right through it it identifies that it's the does what's it called a debugging sister station debugging station on the label here so identifies that it doesn't let you access to regular updates you can change the ID of the console as far as I'm aware in one of the debugging menus but I something I've never tried and I wouldn't want to try anyway mmm because in potential break machine and I'll talk about these specs of what's in here but when we open that one up but we don't be to find the same thing same hardware but it looks very different looks very different okay and can we open that in a moment absolutely okay we'll get looking there but what's in here is the Cell processor 3.2 gigahertz that was powerpc-based technology made by IBM Toshiba Marshall Roland Motorola it was an amalgamation of all the big companies so the Cell processor 256 Meg of RAM 250 so you can make of video RAM so we're really ramping up the texture memory and going hard on the 3d and an NVIDIA GPU this was released ten years after the first PlayStation 6 years after the PlayStation 2 huge amount progress has been made you say yes different be still - yeah there is no and the fun thing about that processor the Cell processor is people would buy these and then if you remember and use them as supercomputers they would that was a rumors I hope well more than rumors I know I talk in the advertising and I thought right you got me with the PlayStation 2 it you know what the ps2 is all about emotion wasn't it's got the emotion engine and characters are gonna be all emotional and it's gonna be like movies okay you hooked me in with that one Sony I wasn't buying it again there were marketing stories about how these had been banned in particular countries because they were classed as a super computer but actually the Air Force Research Laboratory in 2010 bought 1760 ps3's connected them all up to create the 33rd largest supercomputer in the world brilliant Brussels so it worked all of those cell processors and GPUs working together and when you taught up the cost of 1700 ps3 was about a million pounds it's not that bad in world that's pretty good value for money so this was a serious bit kit as long as they didn't update them of course because they took the functionality always they did didn't they can you remember why they did that was it because it had been hacked I think it was fairs of art of hacking yeah and I suppose you're about door into the machine so you could do things you shouldn't be a little yeah because you could get Linux for it as you could with the PlayStation 2 and then they pulled the rug out from everyone this can play region free I think you said well most bursaries are recent free anyways so I can't play anything ok you can play any handset the specific reason over the Machine line range we look at the debug minis later you'll see there is a region setting and it's quite a few reasons in there you wouldn't expect now let's look at this weekend I can't resist anymore let's get this off the table what is it first of all it's a monster yeah it's an 18 kilo 15 thousand euro on release monster so this this is based on what's called a reference system ok so this is what you would use to develop your games on so similar to the sega system you saw earlier you wouldn't compile your code on here that would be your separate development system but this is where you can you can run your code you can debug your code and all the things as a developer you want to do machine and so you could I just say you could right mount it also there was a foot so you could put it on the bottom so you can stand it next your desk if you wanted an additional heater maybe as well maybe I wouldn't wall them there because the I'll coin always yes you'll see when we power it on yeah there's ever look on the front we have to lean around here so on the front we have actually got USB ports we've got the memory card puts a lots of familiar ports to a Playstation 3 so you can just sit in front of it and play on it absolutely like a regular place they're all migrated all retail games a very noisy PlayStation 3 and two hard drives to hard disks yep so the difference the way this works is this hard is here that is your regular PlayStation 3 hardest what you'd have in your normal console you're putting your game data on there you'll save everything you'd normally go on there this one here can act as a blu-ray drive so you can put your your game on to this Hunter's here and rather than have it burn a blu-ray I believe the drive you can run it from there ok so you're running your game and then presumably this has given you not just the display you know obviously you're playing the game but it's giving you lots of other debugging information yeah so in some ways one of the reasons this is bigger because you don't just have the ps3 in here you have the whole development system communication side of it as well so as a developer you can put this on to your development network have York Oh squirty down to the machine or your programs on the machine you can run them and see what they're doing what they're actually running as well and you see there's actually a port for a foot switch on the front you can use that to stop the code and execute through and say okay whoa I've got this bug here let's try and see what's going on and kind of putting breakpoints in the code you can hit the breaker by brilliant I think we need to look inside to see what else is going on in there so is it just the three screws at the back that's like a fun couple on the front right let's grab that screwdriver and get inside okay can we see under any of these or is it just more and more no you actually can get inside we can okay we need a smaller screwdriver to start we'll start in the middle then okay another screwdriver for you yeah I wanted some help there's a lot screws here so um I've gone from feeling like a game developer to an adela server engineer yep lots of familiar parts you've got your heat sinks you've got all of your thermal plastics to draw the heat away a couple of fans at the back ata our disks so sorry for hard disks what else if we go a drive under here this looks like a custom board here is what's this bit so this is the part that it's your communications network so this controls all of the access to the development side of the network yeah so there's actually two boards under there right and if you pull them out you see there's lots of custom chips on there there's all the processors the memory all the things that that needs to run that's a completely separate environment - everything else is on here okay these are the cell processors - so process note so you've got the processor and the r6 GPU higher that's the GPU okay it's amazing isn't it when you look at the standard PlayStation that it can call itself in there with this board over here this is the AV out so this is helping with the display yes yeah and then hard drives presumably but the powerful huggy car drives in there and they be quickly popped out on the front I can you need the power on to do that though actually yes yeah we can try that in a minute yeah okay does this panel come up they're not it does I think I have to take one of this off as well and to be honest just just a pair of okay and then the long power supply down here which it's not actually me to quickly swap out I know you can open it up and you can yank the handle out but it's not a quick release one no like you get with your HP or your Dells and if we want to take all the fun this this fan assembly off you actually see it's actually dual connected as well okay so there's actually two standard PC power supply connection under there going it's on the board Tristram right let's power it up then and also if we power this up and try and capture from it are we gonna see anything different like the other PS it will look exactly sums up here through this route exactly the same menus okay so power on test time absolutely so you may hear an audible click that'll be the power supply turning on just this variety do anything okay so that's the power on so we have a standby light and we have a status light here basically means the communication style of the machines booting in a moment it won't do anything if I press the power button nothing will happen great okay so we need to wait for that to go out which is about 20 seconds or so we have the green light we are ready to go so no there's the unfamiliar service sound yep they see you actually got various lights and I'll come once the disks this axis on this one here so that's your blu-ray drive that you'll see a boot from this one and then we go that's a play section say strange isn't it seen the dashboard appeared from a machine that looks like this absolutely it's trained to the PlayStation Store yeah have you connected out to the internet or even bit worried about I don't mind it yeah I've gone through might bring in update the principal absolutely yes yes and now that we've got power we can unlock these hard drives cambree we call when it's powered on right okay because they're not stuck and also or they're not redundant because there's your blu-ray drive it's your system drive is not a raid configuration is not so channel so if we power it off then we can put them out yeah so we either power for the power switch or we can block them controller into it or just press that it should okay so if you want to take a drive out all we do is unlock the drive or pressing the button there we go we can take the drive out as we need to what have we got there 250 gig castle under control 400 and eSATA put them back in that's completely unnecessary isn't it I can imagine being in a situation where that mechanism breaks and your hard drive is a long thing true that's right but any fuel developer you don't want some coffee harvest that's true there is a security aspect it's an actor this is low so what you might have noticed is actually an extra pair of USB ports on the front so you have your standard USB ports that would be on your normal ps3 and you have two extra healthy labelled extra which I'll connect it into the communication system in the back seeing that your keyboard in yeah but we have this in pieces in the unit er to do whatever you will do and there's the footswitch yeah so just like a regular ps3 standard controller turn it on and we just have full access to the menus and if you didn't know we're looking looking at you would see this is a standard machine but if we winds down to here we have our extra menu and in here we have all the settings for the debugging side of the machine and there's lots and lots of stuff in here as you can see yeah this is example this is where we set what you want to use is your blu-ray drive either your your disc or you can use the hard disk this is the same menu as on the other PS yeah because this is a bagman it's not the what were you use for for development eeehm yeah there's lots and lots of stuff on that and he said there's some content on here there is some sites on the actually see there is some directories on here um home ps3 game and if you try to run it there's nothing there maybe it's not working is it white I don't know hopefully one day I will find out yeah well I'd be someone knows how I can access that do you know the origins of this machine no all I know it came from a guy on eBay he had a load of these machines and a big pile which he was selling for a reasonable price I want one of those not realizing quite how big it was now heavy ores so when this arrived with a postman who wasn't very happy it was quite a shock to see how big a Wars so he can't even take a guess at what that content might be I hope you find out someday I stay so from ps3 were winding backwards a little bit amount of PSP 2004 and before we do actually the PlayStation 3 games are still stacked up here the reason being I think now is a really good time to buy PlayStation 3 games I'm sorry paying less than a pound 95 P for most of these games I haven't even got a ps3 I've just been buying the games whenever I've seen them in charity shops just because they say cheap yeah sound of exports games that there's they're starting to creep up a little bit now and so now it's a good time anything xbox ps3 we we are new as well every other game that you see of course is FIFA but if you look hard he you can build up a collection and so there we go anyway from ps3 to PSP 2004 seventh generation console designed to compete with the Nintendo DS here is the PSP as we know it what the hell are these these are a complete development system so a hey this is the dev system and this is a test system well so they're two different they are two different things if you look at it from the front may look identical yes when we look at the back you see they are slightly different okay so which one should we start with the start of the dev dev okay so very similar what we saw with the ps3 you have a development environment you have a test environment so this would be something that the the developer would use to to run the code do all the debugging on to do their initial builds on so it compiles the code they're not using okay so on the back of this one you'll see there is actually anything that ports yeah so again this can go on to a give a little network and many people can actually share this one machine and then this one so this is a test system and the thing you'll notice on the back of this one this system does not have anything okay this mentor you stand alone so this is somewhat something a developer or test or even the games tester could have on their desk someone can give them a copy of a game of burnt put it into the the drive or I can put it to the cd-rom drive and then run the game and do some testing on it okay so the ends are the ability to squirt the game in and play you have to have a yes some media but you can play the game directly or from CD it has to be on the UMD which is quite handle handy in modern times surely because these are quite difficult to get hold of these yes yes is it possible even to get out of rewritable ones I don't know I've never seen one yeah so the fact you can just put on the CD that's great and then do we have controller ports or anything how do you how do you so late with a PlayStation controller you use a PSP come into it because there's this so yeah as you can see it's actually quite a slightly different PSP - you would normally see and we have a pair Mectizan here one of wishes USB I wonder it's just to run the display on on the machine plug these into the funnel machine you boot this just like you would a normal PSP and it runs just like a normal clear speed okay on that cable it looks like it can't be detached no so here's who smoke brings up inside you Rob's you there's no UMD drive in the heart side here it's pretty much just a screen as in controls yeah okay so you're attended to that as always I want to dig inside these things can we take the screws out and have a look yeah okay which is better to look at it's look at the drive system okay are they the same inside I'm just guessing mostly the same okay but this one has more in yes okay let's look in the den system and we'll grab the screw driver so there's not a lot inside them I do like the color of that PCB is come on ours isn't it yeah so we've got the power supply coming into the board battery backup yep and then for the CD drive the CD drive everything you need is there open cable up and then just your mainboard with all your you'll get some pieces now like we saw in the other one CPU GPU this question we think how that all of that is shrunk into a PSP hmm if you have a PSP you'll recognize that as the headphone controller [Music] so if we opened up the other one would we find the same thing on it slightly different it would look very similar obviously you have less chip count on that because it's not doing as much as this systems doing there's no Ethernet on those a communication side of it there's no development side of it so you see the same board just less chips yeah okay have you imported any rare yes beginning well if I haven't no because the PSP's universe out of the box I don't have to worry about not be able to run them but I'm not really found anything I really want to play a part from oddly enough a train game yeah there's a very expensive train game that only came out in Japan it's awfully expensive I won't be important yeah you know how people build it like their dream flight simulator in their house sometime dedicate a room to it yeah you thought about doing that with the train I think I decided that there must be some old British round carriages it you know nothing I can explain my collections on my girlfriend I don't think I'll explain a train type [Laughter] well it's in an education for me my introduction to consult dev kits you've demystified a certain amount of it you've made some of it even more mysterious they didn't give away their secrets that easily are there any more that you're looking to get in your collection there's loads I'd like there's going through dev systems Sega Saturn but they are unbelievably rare and unbelievably expensive this amazing 64 stuff I'd love to eat my hands on but it is very expensive to buy unfortunately yeah are there any particularly unusual ones like the Saturn one or the we want are they as big as that PlayStation 3 one we saw it there's a Wii system which is called the GCD I think it's called which is quite large I have seen one and I didn't buy and I do regret there is a gamecube Dev system which has what the cartridges you stick on the top of it and that's quite unusually quite strange as some of the numbers and stuff as well so I have seen a ps4 dev system even bigger than what we saw before so the Xbox start that's quite interesting so XDK systems yeah very interesting as we move into the present Journal the next-gen consoles their architectures becoming more and more PC like in terms of processors and graphics cards it's all becoming a bit samey do you think were they gonna gonna move to deficit development purely on PCs from now on do you think that's the way it's possibly happen it's only bring the cost down because these things can't be cheap for companies to develop no as we said the the ps3 you know I was 15,000 euros or they came are these a you know thousands thirty by yeah so I would imagine it'll probably go that way but it depends on what they do with the PS 5 and the next Xbox and yeah what they do it's a bit sad isn't it for them to disappear I don't want them to disappear because they are so unusual yeah and people don't really know that much about them yeah well thank you for taking the time to show them to us today surely your dream must be to develop something at some point I think I am a frustrated program yeah maybe the net euros euros euros II maybe confuses just come out for the switch development gentlemen I've been avenue but play around with that and a lot of long flight coming up soon so I think I might sit down doing that fly and have a little plane so you wanna come up there's a challenge make a game in a flight right the air could be done and we can't go without asking you about you're very loud t-shirt tell us about fusion fusion fusion magazine which I'm sure hopefully some people may have bought and enjoyed we're currently doing a Kickstarter or the annual which is going very very well and so if anyone wants to come have a look at that please come and support us or get some freebies as well if you if you sign up now yeah I think we got a free copy of fusions EDX which will be a spectrum dedicated version of fusion and a calendar as well good you know good old-fashioned games magazine and now an annual for it so there'll be links in the description to that and anything else we've discussed today go and check it out Alan thank you very much for entering today sir thank you for watching and take care if you enjoy my content and would like to support the cave while receiving a completely at free experience and access to releases one week before they go public then visit patreon.com forward slash retro man cave and join the official cave dwellers thank you for your support [Music] [Music] you

Channel: RMC - The Cave

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Keywords: computer history, nostalgia, retro, retro computer, retro man cave, sony, sega, playstation, dreamcast, psp, playstation 2, playstation 3, ps2, ps3, ps1, yaroze, playstation test, development, coding, hack, root

Id: Yv8rDT8fNEc

Length: 42min 21sec (2541 seconds)

Published: Thu Oct 31 2019