Some UPGRADES for the Lathe || INHERITANCE MACHINING

I've been working with these machines for over a year now and I've tried my hand at quite a few projects like a lot of hobby machinists most of these builds are more tools for the shop but I did have a few other things sprinkled in here and there each one came with a new technique to learn or challenge to overcome so it's safe to say I've spent a great deal of time getting familiar with this equipment in familiarity breeds contempt okay maybe that's putting it a bit harshly I do love these machines but there are some things that could be improved upon especially on the lathe I've even gone so far as to make a list of the things I'd like to address so today that's exactly what I'm going to do [Music] [Music] right [Music] my list is far more extensive than I could possibly cover in one video so I'm just going to start with the things that bug me the most and we'll see how far I get to begin I'm actually going to revisit a past upgrade I did for this lathe last year I made this tool post locking handle to replace the hex nut that was originally here this nut is what prevents the tool post from rotating once you set it at the angle you want which in most cases is just getting it Square again after having set the compound to a new angle My Hope was to eliminate the need for hauling out a massive wrench every time I needed to make an adjustment but after extensive use I discovered my supposedly clever handle couldn't quite get the leverage needed to lock everything down for the heavier cuts so I have to bust out the wrench anyway fortunately I thought to include the wrench Flats on the new handle just in case this was a problem but that's not all that's wrong with this setup when I go to tighten the tool post the friction under the nut actually causes the tool post to rotate from its setting I can usually mitigate this by resting the post against a square reference as I tighten it but it's still annoying nonetheless so here I have a supposed upgrade that doesn't really solve any of the problems it was originally supposed to needless to say I'm not very pleased with this but there is a somewhat easy fix a Thrust bearing by using a Thrust bearing under the nut I should be able to make the joint nearly frictionless this should eliminate both the holding force and rotation problems I'm having but like any good project it's not exactly as simple as just plopping this under here I'll need a way to keep this bearing both centered and shielded from debris so I actually get to make something I'm also going to skip the drafted drawing on this one a simple Auto pad rendering should do it's basically just a shallow cylinder with an angular Groove where the inside Hub centers are bearing elements and the outside acts as the debris Shield I also want the Locking handle to stop in the same location as it currently does so as long as I make the thickness a multiple of the two millimeter pitch on the threads it should work out perfectly simple enough so let's get to work I'll save myself some setup and just use this offcut from another project you know actually I think this is the offcut from the tool post nut project itself it's almost like the universe was trying to tell me something even back then I'll get this chucked up on the lathe using the leftover step on the end then I can begin shaping the outside dimensions first facing the end then turning down the OD since the ID is already drilled out I can move right on the boring this to a clearance diameter for the threaded tool post then it's time for something a little more interesting like trapanning I made this your panning tool in my last video for a similar operation and since the diameter of the groove I need to cut in this face is larger than that in the previous one it will work here as well I'll get a touch on the outside diameter and on the face of the part then I can Engage The Power feed and begin cutting the groove [Music] is right Mr Brandon got a little cocky there didn't you and on several accounts I might add not enough grip in the Chuck aggressively power feeding the tool and no lube this was bound to happen and now not only is the part scrapped but so is the tool now take your shame over to the boss actually hang on one second I think this is salvageable I've still got plenty of material to work with here I'll take a little more precaution this time though and remove that flange to give myself a larger area to grip on in the chuck switching to the four jaw would be the best for re-centering the material but that's a whole ordeal so instead I'm going to see if I can get this running true without swapping Chucks and going through that whole alignment process the truck drivers should get it reasonably close to centered but to take it the rest of the way I'm going to use the highly technical approach of mashing a metal bar against the diameter while it's rotating it may have been hard to see on camera but that visibly straightened out the stock pretty well and the indicator agrees within two thousandths is more than acceptable for this part from here I can just face away the little whoopsie from before and nobody will be the wiser but I still have the broken trepanning tool problem to address so I guess I'll have to just make a new one good as new I'll get this squared up in a tool holder and I can try this once again this time I'll do all the feeding by hand and properly lather this thing up in cutting oil much much better despite my little self-induced mishap I still maintain that this is one of my favorite operations it's just so satisfying watching those thick curls roll out of the groove the final Groove requires two passes with the tool which leaves just a thin wall on the outside for the bearing debris Shield let's see how the bearing fits yep that's pretty much perfect it's properly centered and the bottom race protrudes from the part a few thousands just like I need nothing left to do but to part this off and after a light deburring we can see if this is going to work now that is nice it certainly feels like I'm able to get it a lot tighter for the effort I put into the handle plus the post no longer rotates from its position when I crank on it and the handle stops right where I want it to it's nearly perfect there is just one more thing okay now it's perfect I'm actually amazed how much nicer those feels it's kind of hard to put in the words but the action just has a certain quality to it that makes me more confident in its holding power my only wish is that I would have thought of this during the original lever build so I could have made it all in one piece of course hindsight is 20 20. I'm really happy with how this turned out but it's only one Improvement on the list of many so what's next oh yeah let's do the old compound slide dial indicator upgrade so here's the problem the compound slide has its own hand wheel and dial but they leave a bit to be desired the dial has one thou increments but because of such a small diameter the marks are really close together and can be difficult to see this isn't a big deal in its own right but they also seem to be somewhat inconsistently spaced which doesn't exactly give me the warm and fuzzies actually dropping an indicator on here I just discovered another issue I wasn't aware of every revolution of the hand wheel should be a distance of two hundred thousandths but I'm only reading 199 thousands and this hole is true for every additional Revolution this can only mean one thing the pitch of the lead screw inside is wrong how on Earth I've made it this far without realizing this is beyond me the last qualm I have about this whole situation is that there's a great deal of backlash in the lead screw and no way to adjust it this is manageable as long as you know it's there but it's not exactly pleasing to work with so yeah I've got some problems that raise the question of accuracy on the compound but what am I going to do about them well I use the dial indicator to measure the true position of everything so why not make a mount to properly place a dial indicator on here a little more elegantly this will need a bit more processing power than the old Auto pad can handle so I'll do a proper drawing on the drafting table to start I don't want this thing to be a permanent attachment on the lathe and I'd prefer it to be easily removable a rectangular cutout on the body will saddle the compound slide and clamp onto either side this also makes it adjustable which is nice since the stroke of the compound is a lot larger than that of the dial indicator the clamping mechanism is formed by a slit with a cross hole through it for a simple thumb screw the indicator will mount on the opposite end through a bore that accepts the 3 8 stem and it's clamped in place with a similar slit and screw mechanism lastly on this part I'll include a sort of scalloped grip area to make it a little easier to handle but if I'm being honest it's just to make it look cooler the screws will be a two-piece design with a knurled knob press fit onto a custom threaded stud this not only saves on material but lets me make the knobs out of brass for added cool Factor the final thing I need is a flag that mounts stationary on the machine and gives the dial indicator something to measure to okay this will be a little more work than the previous upgrade but I'm looking forward to some of the operations to come I'll get everything dimensioned and I can get to it I had a lot of design freedom on this one so I intentionally sized everything the work from materials I already had on hand I'm going to start with the body since well that seems the most interesting I'll get this bar cut down to an appropriate length and I can head over to the mill for the fun stuff wait what's wrong oh yes that how could I forget so yeah last video I had a little issue with the slitting saw Arbor I made if you stuck around to the very end you got a little bonus clip of well this the arbor is completely jammed in the middle what I didn't show you though was how this happened I took several Cuts with the slitting saw other than those I showed but on one test I wasn't quite as liberal with the coolant as I should have been and the blade completely seized up in the material it was so bad in fact that it actually stalled the motor how the blade didn't also break is beyond me anyway my guess of what happened is that the key pin and the spindle mashed its way through the side of the keyway in the Saul's R8 Arbor and is now bound up so I basically need to twist it back so I can drop it out of here foreign go the right way oh God you dumbass or the wrong way [Music] oh ouch well despite my best efforts to keep this thing looking decent it didn't make it out without a few Battle Scars but those are only cosmetic the real problem is on the keyway my suspicion was right about the pen bulldozing its way around the arbor I'm not exactly sure what I'm going to do to fix this yet or if it needs fixing at all but I know one thing for certain this is a real kick in the nether regions I was really proud of this one too I could wallow in regret all day but I came to the mill to do a job so might as well get to work on that I'll start off by squaring up this stock and getting at the dimension this isn't strictly needed on the long faces of the stock but I'm a sucker for a nice flat cut finish I'll get this remounted and begin work on the finer details first a simple rabbet on the indicator end of the bar then after switching to this bevel Mill I can start dropping Chambers on the part two on this end then one on top and bottom of the other end because well you know that takes care of some of the Cosmetics now to move on to the functional bits after spot drilling through the indicator hole I'll use that pivot point for the divider to describe the round I'll add to this corner later then continue on Drilling and reaming the hole making a nice precise fit for the dial indicator while I've got the bar on its side like this I'll also knock out the scalloped grip areas with the ball End Mill like other Cutters where you're working with variable cutting diameters there isn't really a way to perfectly dial in the speeds and feeds for this tool this is especially true for ball Mills like this where at the very tip the cutting speed is zero so it ends up just plowing its way through the metal rather than cutting technically I could Tilt The Mill head and Cutters so that I'm not cutting on the tip but that's a whole lot of hoopla for a single mostly decorative feature besides with light cuts and a lot of coolant I'm able to produce an acceptable finish before I get to the more important stuff I also want to knock out the round I scrapped before since it's just a single feature I'll spare myself a lengthy rotary table set up and just shape this on the Belt grinder to finish this off I'll smooth out the grinding marks by hand on a much higher grid emery board using a rotating motion like this helps keep a nice consistent radius around the corner with no flat spots this does leave a slightly different finish than the milled faces but I feel like that's a small price to pay for the Simplicity of this approach back on the mill I'll Stand the part up Square in the Vise and work on the indicator clamping mechanism I'll start with the screw hole which consists of a clearance hole near the surface and a 1024 threaded hole beyond that then I'll move on to The Parting slit I still haven't figured out what I'm going to do about my poor mangled and beat up slitting saw Harbor but I need a slitting saw so I'm going to see if I can make it work I'll get the blade height set up so that it's barely touching the reference surface then cut my way clear through to the indicator bore all in one go that went pretty much perfectly and better yet the armor has no problem releasing from the bore but that's where the good news ends I only just now discovered a huge error I made the screw hole I just drilled in the end intersects with the indicator bore somehow I misjudged this clearance during the design what a doofus looks like I'll be starting over I'm pretty close to the end though so I think I'll go ahead and finish this out just in case I discover any other hidden issues the other end of the bar gets a similar clearance plus threaded hole in the end then I'll bring in the slitting saw once again to cut almost all the way through the bar to form the clamping element on this side the last cuts are to make the pocket that will actually saddle over the body of the lathe compound I'll first bring in a roughing Mill to do most of the material removal then switch to a finishing Mill for the Final Cuts first taking the end of the pocket to the perfect width to fit the compound then removing the last few thou off the pocket depth alright let's see how it fits nice it slides freely along the top of the compound with only about one to two thousand wiggle room which I'm hoping will be a perfect amount of Engagement once I get the clamping screws on here actually there's no reason I couldn't go ahead and make the screws now I've been itching to play with some brass since I started this project so I'll work on the knobs first to start I'll face the end of some stock and turn down enough length to form the two screw knobs from then it's on to some knurling I've yet to try this newly made knurling tool on some brass so this should be fun I'm gonna go for a straight knurl here since I really only need rotational grip on the knobs to turn the screws and once I verify the pattern is transferring correctly I'll send it on its way across the bar oh yes very nice is the form the boss this includes a fillet so I'll do all the cutting with this form tool I made for a previous job and no chance this was getting by without some chamfers so I'll break these two edges then bring in The Parting blade to separate the first knob after repeating the same operations for the second knob I'll start work on the opposite ends first facing and chamfering then moving on to the through bore which gets drilled and reamed for a press fit on the screw studs I'll make next but since I don't want those screws to just pull through as they're tightened I'm also going to put a counter bore on this end as well all right we're part way there the screw studs are long compared to their diameters so I'll start by facing and Center drawing the end for tail stock support then once set up with a live Center begin turning down the main shaft diameter to be a tooth out press fit into the knob once there I'll begin single point turning the 1024 threads but rather than take a dozen passes to get the fit just right I'll get them close then switch to a thread forming die to pick up where I left off after verifying a good fit with the body I'll bring the knob in and use the tail stock Chuck to press it onto the shaft until the shoulder bottoms out into the counter bore then just part it off and repeat for the second knob this leaves the final task of cleaning up the ends so I'll Chuck these up one last time to whittle away the excess material and also drop a decorative Hollow in the face of the knobs now this is the point where I would normally show you how these things worked out on the assembly but in a second wave of Brilliance on this project I completely forgot to record that before making a whole bunch of changes but I'll do my best to fill you in to start the screws I made didn't provide enough clamping for us to properly secure the assembly onto the compound this was a two-fold problem where the clamping element wasn't flexible enough and the screw pitch was too coarse so I ended up remaking the screws in a finer 32 threads per inch as opposed to the 24 of The Originals fortunately I could Salvage the knobs from the first attempt so I was able to Simply press these onto the new studs before refinishing the ends I also went ahead and remade the main body to reflect this change as well as correct the issues from before obviously I shifted the one screw hole down to clear the indicator bore but I also got a little chamfer Happy on the original and wasn't a fan of how close this one was to the hole so I excluded it on the remake because the hole shifted down I also had to make the top part of the bar thicker and because of this I also shifted the hole on the far end down as well lastly was making the slit on this end just a bit deeper to give the clamping element more compliance which brings me to right now so how does the new version work it's definitely a lot easier to get the clamp on the compound and feels a whole lot more secure I mean it's not going to withstand a hammer blow but it's definitely tight enough for the vibrations this might see what about the indicator side oh yes very nice hardly any pressure needed at all to lock the indicator in place and it puts it in a very visible position this is going to work perfectly I do have one more thing to make though before I can call this project complete I need a flag that mounts to the compound base for the indicator to read against so it's back to the mill for one last job I'll start like always by Milling a block down to my outside dimensions then drop a couple counter board mounting holes on here there are some clearances needed on the back of this so I'll flip the block over and hog away the material with a roughing Mill I'll reposition one last time and clear the material on this side as well then that's it for this piece let's get it attached to the lathe this one is more of a semi-permanent feature so it will actually bolt in place that means I need to drill and tap a couple holes into the base of the compound and rather than break all this down to get it set up on the mill I'll just knock these out with the trusty Milwaukee I'll be honest it feels insane drilling right into my lathe like this but really these are all tools meant to do a job so anything that makes those jobs more effective is okay in my book cordless drill or otherwise with the flag mounted the indicator now has a reference to read against as I Traverse the compound and because the indicator Mount is adjustable I can get it right where I need it for the stroke of the compound I'm going to go ahead and say that this upgrade will definitely make my Machining more effective now I have a reliable way to bypass the questionable hand wheel dial meaning I can achieve higher levels of precision that is as long as I don't have any more brilliant moments plus I'm pretty pleased with how cool this thing looks it's like a little bit of jewelry for the lathe in addition to this I also finally solved my toolpo's locking lever problem no longer will I have to worry about whether my tool post is tight enough or truly at the angle I set it to which will certainly make my doings that this machine more effective despite a couple do-overs I'm really pleased with the outcome of these upgrades sure I only crossed two items off my list but there were two things that were really bugging me plus this just means I have more projects for the future as always thanks for watching see you next time [Music] [Music] thank you [Music]

Channel: Inheritance Machining

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Keywords: inheritance machining, knurled, knurled knob, eye candy, thrust bearing, dial indicator, lathe tools, machine tools, trepan tool, trepanation, slitting saw, ball mill, machine shop, machinist, machining, hss, metal work, engineering design, paper drafting, inventions, engineering projects, do it yourself, engineering, precision machining, satisfying, asmr

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Length: 22min 20sec (1340 seconds)

Published: Fri Mar 17 2023