<i> This is</i> Couples Court
with the Cutlers. This is a case
of Dozier versus Guilford. You all have known each other
for 20 years and you're living together, but today may be the last day
of this relationship depending on what happens
in this courtroom today. -Am I right, Ms. Dozier?
-Yes, Your Honor. -[Judge Dana] Uh-oh.
-[Judge Keith] Okay. Now, you've initiated
this case today. Tell us why. Uh, me and Kamal, you know, we've been knowing each other
for over 20 years. In this incident, Kamal has a problem
with social media. -He loves to reach out to women.
-[Kamal] That ain't true. [audience exclaims] -I wanna say for booty and--
-[Kamal] She's lying. -[Cananairo] He just have a--
-[Kamal laughing] He just have a problem
with social media. Any phone that he has,
he either going to the laundromat
or the library. Anything that has Wi-Fi,
he with it. That's just what he do,
he just love reaching out to women
on Facebook and just trying to make them
feel all, you know, like he can be their man
or whatever. Mr. Guilford. -[Kamal] Now, she's lying.
-I think-- I think we're all about free Wi-Fi, but she says you're using
free Wi-Fi for some bad purposes. No, sir.
I'm here to clear my name. I'd be flirting
and stuff like that. I'm just here to clear my name and let her know
I'm not cheating with you. I've never slept
with none of these women that I talked to on Facebook.
I never did. Okay. So, you're on Facebook,
you see a little picture, -a little short short, little--
-The booty. [Judge Keith]
You know, all that.
You click and like, right? No. No, I didn't.
It's not like that. -It's not like that.
-Oh, yes it is. [Judge Dana] All right. Well, I got to think
that you said you all known each other
for 20 years and reconnected? -[Cananairo] That's correct.
-[Kamal] Mm-hmm. How do you feel,
can you share with us, knowing and believing
that he's cheating on you? [sighs] How do I feel? Kamal...
Okay. I'll say it like this. One day, he wanted something
to drink. We was together. He was like,
"Babe, pick me up a Gatorade." I said, "Okay, cool."
So, I dropped him off at the house or whatever. So, I like to look for change
when I make a stop or whatever. So, when I make a stop,
I'm looking in my car and I go on the passenger side. I'm like, "Well, what is this? This look like
Kamal's cell phone." -So, I'm going through it--
-[Judge Keith]
And was it his phone? It was his phone 'cause
I believe he was looking for it and he wore jogging pants
and I tell him, "You need to stop
wearing jogging pants -'cause you lose things."
-[Judge Keith]
So, you're on your way -to the store.
-[Cananairo] Yeah. -I'm on my way to the store.
-[Judge Keith]
And you find his phone? -[Cananairo] Right.
-What did you find? -Oh, Lord. I see--
-[audience laughs] I see messages
then I see a female friend, you know, texting or whatever. And I know his text
because he was like, "Well, I wanna, uh, see you.
My home boy got drunk and my uncle brought the phone,"
or whatever, you know. So, I was like,
"What is this? Mm." And you submitted that
to the court, have you not? I will. I can walk over here
to the monitor. -[Judge Dana] All right.
-[Judge Keith] Would you step to the screen and let us know -what you found?
-I will. [chuckles] -She stole the phone.
-No, I didn't. -You lost the phone, honey.
-She stole the phone. She stole the phone. -She stole the phone.
-Okay. As you can see, February the 3rd. Kamal. Imma read out the text.
It said, "I know you mad. I didn't call because I lost
this phone last night and my uncle just brought it." [Judge Dana]<i> All right.
And that's 7:19 a.m.?</i> Yeah, this is in the morning.
He ought to be in bed with me. -He texting and going on.
-[Kamal] We weren't in. -We weren't--
-[Cananairo] And the texts... -We weren't staying...
-...go on and on. -...together then.
-Right here, it says, "So you mad,
didn't want to answer." This is at 7:38, I would think that after the first
text message, you would just stop texting. He being thirsty now.
He ain't getting no response. -[audience laughs]
-He being thirsty. This is 7:38. Here's some more texts. "Hello, vanilla ice cream."
Vanilla ice cream? So, we like
vanilla ice cream now? Oh, man. This is at 9:05 a.m.
He still being thirsty. So, is that your nickname
for her, vanilla ice cream? Yes, ma'am. But at the time-- -[Judge Dana] No. Uh-uh.
-[Cananairo] No, no. -Is that your nickname for her?
-[Cananairo] No. -It was at the time.
-That's the nickname he gave her, vanilla ice cream. -I should be vanilla ice cream.
-[Judge Dana]
All right. All right. And then he had some more texts. This right here is at 8:12 p.m.
"So, it's like that." "So, it's like that?" I mean, like,
why are you still being thirsty? -You didn't get a response.
-[Judge Keith] So-- So, he's being thirsty
for a vanilla milkshake? [Cananairo] He being-- Yeah.
He being thirsty. [audience exclaims, laughs] -I mean, as you could see.
-[Judge Keith] No. [Cananairo]
Don't be clapping for him. As you can see,
he is very handsome. Why you got to keep texting?
As you see, he's thirsty. This is at 8:12 p.m. -This is at night now.
-This is at the end of the day. He's still going after her. [Cananairo]<i>
Then she finally respond.</i> <i> Ugh, like,
"Sorry, boo, I'm busy."</i> And I'm wondering like, "Okay. This is where
they draw the line." You know what I'm saying?
For us. Him texting, she responding. I don't know
if he slept with her or not. He had no business
texting anyway, you know, so... So, why is she calling him boo? That's what I'm talking about. Because if it wasn't nothing
like that, -it wouldn't be no boo.
-[Kamal] It wasn't like that It would have been, um... "What you texting me for?" -Especially at that time anyway.
-[Kamal] It wasn't nothing-- -it wasn't nothing like that.
-It was-- So, Mr. Guilford,
that's an interesting question. Why is this person-- Why is this person
calling you boo? You keep saying, "It wasn't
like that. It wasn't like that." -[Cananairo] Boo.
-It was like that -because she's calling you boo.
-No, it wasn't. I guess she was liking
what I was saying. Oh, he a real good talker -hanging out on the cell phone--
-[Judge Keith]
You guess she liked-- I would just come and say, I wasn't gonna
never sleep with her or nothing. -It was just--
-No interest in her whatsoever? She's white.
I don't date white women. -She's white.
-[Cananairo] But-- I like black women. She's white.
I don't date white women. -He lying.
-That's why I picked her. -He lying, but go ahead.
-I've never been -with a white woman.
-[Judge Keith]
Well, Mr. Guilford. I like my black woman. Mr. Guilford, your girlfriend
submitted a text -from the next day.
-[Kamal] Yeah, it was-- [Judge Keith] Let's take a look
at that. -It went on and on.
-[Judge Dana] And it says, <i> "I was gonna come yesterday
but you never responded.</i> [audience exclaims] But I wasn't going to her. -I was just telling her that.
-Yeah, that's when he was with his homeboy when...
went out of town or whatever. Truthful. I wasn't going.
I just that-- -I was just having her--
-Are you really trying to tell to tell this court,
"I was just telling her that. -I wasn't gonna do that?"
-[Kamal] I was just flirting... -"I-- I..."
-[Cananairo] He lying. [Judge Dana] That's what
you're gonna tell me? -Lying.
-White women don't turn me on, -period.
-[Judge Dana] Okay, but why are you texting her and making her think
she turn you on? -Because I was just.
-"Because I was just?" -[Kamal] Doing stuff.
-Okay. You know-- -So, the bottom line is--
-Hold on. Hold on. Hold on. -Hold on. Hold on.
-[audience laughs] [Judge Dana] Let me
just tell you something. -Tell him, Judge.
-Let me tell you something. That is wrong on a whole bunch
of counts. -And she's doing...
-Who's gonna do that. ...something for you and you're doing something
for somebody else. -That don't make no sense.
-Uh-uh. Sure don't. [Judge Keith] And Mr. Guilford, here's the bottom line for me
at this point. You wrote her and said,
"I was gonna come yesterday but you never responded." You're saying
you didn't mean that. You were just lying
to this woman? -[Kamal] I was.
-So, if you're just lying to her, how do we know
that you aren't lying to us? How can we believe you
at this point? [Cananairo] That's what
I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about.
That's what I'm talking about. That's what I'm talking about. -[Kamal] I took
a lie detector test.
-[Judge Keith] Your best bet, you need to take care
of the ice cream you got. -That's your best bet.
-[Cananairo] That's right. [audience hoots] [Kamal] Yeah. Yeah.
I'm doing-- I know. I'm all the ice cream he needs. Have you had
any other incidences that make you think
that Mr. Guilford is cheating? Yes, I do. -[Judge Dana] All right.
-He is a character. But I love him,
I'm not gonna lie. -[chuckles] The laundromat--
-She always searching. -[Judge Dana] The laundromat?
Okay...
-[Cananairo] Okay. ...we back at the laundromat -with the free Wi-Fi.
-He love-- You know what? Since he love
the laundromat so much, I just start being there,
we're gonna sit together. -We was sitting in the car--
-[Kamal laughs] We was sitting in the car
and he had a phone call that came through on his Wi-Fi. He said,
"Let me step out the car. I need to take this call."
I was like, "Okay. Let you do your thing, honey." So, when he got out the car,
I sat there and I'm looking
at his face like, -"Who is he talking to?"
-Right. [Cananairo] He got back
in the car. "Oh, my homeboy finna come pick me up."
I'm like, "Okay." When I tell you from 3:45 to 11,
almost twelve o'clock, I was sitting there
waiting on him. -No text message--
-3:45 in the afternoon -to midnight?
-[Cananairo] Yes, ma'am. It was 11:45
going on twelve o'clock. I went to work the next day.
I said, "You know what, I ain't stuntin' this,
whatever." [Judge Dana]
You still ain't hear
from him the next day? That's the thing.
While I was at work, I get a phone call. I'm like, "Who is this?" [imitates Kamal]
"This is Kamal." I said,
"Somebody playing tricks." I said, "Who is this?"
"Baby, this is me. Come get me." I said,
"Come get you from where?"
"I'm in the woods." -In the woods?
-[Judge Keith] In the woods? How are you even gonna call me
from the woods? -Anyway--
-I just-- I just figured he'd be at the ice cream shop. Oh, Mr. Cutler. I said, "No, something
ain't right about this." The woods?
Who's waking up in the woods? -So, did you go get him?
-[Cananairo] Uh-uh. I don't-- What? Wait, wait, wait.
Why was he in the woods? -He said he got kidnapped.
-She don't believe -it really happened.
-[Judge Keith] Kidnapped? [Cananairo] He said that now. -[Kamal] It is true.
-[Judge Dana] Mr. Guilford, -what happened?
-It was a white van pulled up. And like three dudes Haitians with dreads--
long dreads. All I see a dude... leaning his head at the dread.
He has me, "Uh, where you can get
some drug?" I was like, "I don't sell drugs
and nothing like that." So, as I finna turn around,
all I see is a rag come on my face... -and all--
-[Judge Dana]
You're telling me-- And I woke up-- -Wait.
-[Kamal] When I woke up, -I was in the woods.
-Wait a minute. You're telling me
a white van pulls up. -[Kamal] Yeah.
-Asked you about drugs. [Judge Dana] You said,
"I ain't selling drugs." Next thing you know--
all the people got dreads, -right?
-[Kamal] Yeah. And they grab you
and kidnap you. -Yeah. That is true.
-[Judge Keith] Are you sure you're not the actor
from that show<i> Empire</i> ? -[Kamal] No.
-[audience laughs] [Cananairo] Thank you.
Thank you. [indistinct chatter] [Cananairo] Look at him. He all in shock and anything. -He putting on.
-[Kamal] No, hey. It happened for real.
This happened for real. All right. So, we got
a very interesting... [Kamal] She should know
something's wrong. -...kidnapping story.
-[Cananairo] Oh, yeah. -Do you have any--
-[Cananairo] The kidnapping. -do you have any other reason
-[Kamal] I was kidnapped. -to believe that he's cheating?
-That's no lie. Yes, I do. It was an incident-- Yeah,
we got stories for days, y'all. It was a-- it was an incident-- [chuckles] It was an incident
where I was washing clothes... Kamal, you know,
I am the type of person, you know,
when you wash them pants, you like to dump stuff out,
so i'm dumping, you know, panties, whatever. It's this credit card
that comes out of his pocket. Now, the type of brother he is, what you doing
with a credit card? You ain't got no money. You make ends meet
with what you can. Okay. So, I knew the individual
that was on the credit card. She reached out to me.
She called me. She said, "Hey, what's up?"
I was like, "What's going on?" Um, I just said-- I asked her,
I said, "Do you know Kamal?" She was like,
"Yeah, I know him." I said "Oh, you do?"
I said, "How did you all meet?" "Oh, reached out to Facebook." -[Kamal] No, I didn't.
-[Judge Dana] Okay. How did he explain
having her credit card? -[Cananairo] Okay.
-That ain't true. I said, "I found a credit card
in your pocket. Who is it?" "Oh, it's just
somebody that I know. She let me buy some cigar,"
because he smokes. And that's what he told me.
And I'm wondering like, "Who is this woman?" I know in, -you know--
-[Judge Dana] Okay. All right. -[Kamal] That's a lie.
-What woman gave you-- what person gives you
a credit card to buy some cigars? Yeah. Tell that.
Don't be lying now. Do not lie. That's a lie by the--
by the Facebook. I didn't ask you about that. I'm asking you
about this credit card. I work at a car wash. The lady come out every Friday
to get a car wash. -She wanted to be with me.
-Who? This woman said
she wanna be with you? Yeah, she wanted to be with me. I said, "I have an old lady
that I love very much." She never--
she said she never mentioned-- he never mentioned me to her. Listen, I didn't know
y'all was together. All right. I know,
Mr. Guilford, you must think we're crazy up here,
so Imma wrap this up. [Kamal] I ain't say that. You got a text message
that's from a female friend. You went missing when you were
allegedly kidnapped. I did. And then, we found a credit card
in your pocket from a woman
that your girlfriend knew and she gave you the credit card
to go buy a cigar -while you washed her car?
-Yeah, no. And so, Ms. Dozier says
that you're guilty of cheating. She's moving on with her life.
She's done. -That is correct.
-[Judge Dana] All right. So, to figure out
what's going on, this court has done a full
and complete investigation. At this time, the court will call
licensed polygraph examiner, Kendall Shull, to determine,
is he cheating? Ron, would you please bring
Mr. Shull in? [Cananairo] Yeah. Okay. The results are in, honey. He cannot hide. All right. Mr. Shull,
would you state your credentials please
for the court? I was fortunate enough
to live a lifetime dream that I had of being
an FBI agent and I spent almost 30 years
in Washington, DC. When I retired,
I was actually chief of the entire
FBI's polygraph program. You asked Mr. Guilford, "Since getting back together
with Ms. Dozier, have you had sexual intercourse
with the woman Ms. Dozier found you texting?" -What was his response?
-He said, "No." What did the lie detector
determine? The lie detector determined
that he was being... truthful, Your Honor. Well, that's the first one. That's the first one.
That's a start. -Hmm.
-You asked Mr. Guilford, "Have you had physical, sexual
contact with the woman who's credit card Ms. Dozier
found in your pocket?" What was his response
to that question? He said, "No," Your Honor. [Judge Keith] What did
the lie detector determine? The lie detector determined
that he was being... deceptive. [audience exclaims] [Judge Keith] Mr. Guilford... this woman who's credit card
you had, you had sexual contact with her,
didn't you? -[Cananairo] Is that the truth?
-[Kamal] Yeah, I had. She just-- she gave me,
um, oral sex. -[Judge Dana] What?
-You remember I told you, -I did.
-[Cananairo] No, you didn't. I asked you. I said, "Mal, did you or did you not sleep
with her or have anything to--" you said, "No, baby.
I didn't sleep with her." I told you about that. -You lied.
-[Judge Keith] Mr. Guilford, you know, I got to think, if you had told Ms. Dozier
about that, -she's gonna remember it.
-She ain't gonna forget nothing. She ain't gonna forget that. -She ain't gonna forget nothing.
-[Kamal] I did tell her. Yeah. It was-- yeah. [audience applauds] What's not likely to happen
is for her to stand here and say, "Oh, yeah. You did tell me some other woman
was... [bleep] ...on you. I completely forgot about that." That's not gonna happen,
Mr. Guilford. Five months can't have sex with the woman,
nothing like that. What you're gonna do,
five months? I can't touch you.
I'm laying beside you. And you with your woman,
she has-- well, if y'all wasn't married
or nothing like this. You sleep beside her
five months. You can't touch her
or nothing like that or if you-- -if you--
-I feel dirty. I'm like, "God." [Kamal] If you're accusing
somebody all the time -they ain't doing-- I wasn't.
-[Cananairo] You're doing stuff. -You were doing stuff.
-[Judge Dana] He was, he was. At first, I wasn't. At first, I wasn't so she
was accusing me. -[Cananairo] No.
-So, you said-- [Judge Keith] Oh,
he's pulling them all out. I mean,
he's going down the list. -She wouldn't so, I had to.
-Yeah. -She accused me first.
-She accused me first, -so, I went on and did it.
-Yeah. [Kamal] She told me to go do it. -She even told me to have--
-[Judge Dana]
You know what, okay. Ms. Dozier, Ms. Dozier,
you came here for answers. -[Cananairo] I did.
-You have gotten those answers. -[Cananairo] Correct.
-I am sorry that it was the way it came out. -It's okay.
-[Judge Dana] But you now have been set free
because that's what the truth -will do for you.
-It will. Mr. Guilford, you blew it. [Judge Dana] Waited nine hours
for you. Ugh. So, now you've got
what you want. You're free to go
to the laundromat as much as you want -and spend as much time...
-[Cananairo] I'm telling you. -...as you want there.
-[audience applauds] You know, and you can-- [Judge Dana] You gonna be
on social media. You're gonna be on social media and you can have all
the vanilla ice cream you want. -[Cananairo] That's right.
-[Judge Keith] And guess what, you'll be doing your laundry
by yourself. [audience applauds] [Judge Keith] We have counseling
available for you. And as we say in this courtroom,
don't cheat yourself -out of a chance...
-[Cananairo] That's right. -...for a happy relationship.
-[Cananairo] That's correct. Court is adjourned. -[audience applauds]
-[gavel bangs] [Judge Dana] Ms. Dozier,
I just wanna say to you, I'm proud of you. You go forth, in power,
and in strength, -and in faith, okay?
-Yes, ma'am. [Judge Dana] Stay strong. As women,
we have got to want the best -and we got to be the best.
-That's correct. -All right. You go do you.
-[Cananairo] Thank you. -[audience applauds, hoots]
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