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Today we are talking about Sleeping Beauty in  the form of the Sleeping Beauty Paradox. It   goes as follows: Sleeping Beauty is going  to be put to sleep on a Sunday - I should   clarify Sleeping Beauty has agreed to do this  and knows all of the details of the experiment,   this is important. Sleeping Beauty is put to sleep  on Sunday. A coin is then flipped; if the coin is   tails we are going to wake her up on Monday, we  then ask her some questions, and then she's put   back to sleep with some amnesia inducing drug so  she has no memory that she was ever awake. This   is again very important to the setup. And then  we also - same thing - wake her up on Tuesday,   ask the same questions, put back to sleep. And  again she has no idea. If the coin was heads,   she's woken up on Monday only, asked questions,  perhaps with the same amnesia inducing drugs.  Sleeping Beauty is put to sleep, we flip  a coin. If it's tails we wake her up on   Monday, ask her some questions, put her back  to sleep. She doesn't know it was Monday, she   doesn't know what happened to the coin, she  has no idea when she wakes up what's going on.   Put back to sleep with no memory of  that incident. She's woken up on Tuesday,   same thing, ask questions, put back to sleep;  has no idea it's Tuesday or what's happened.  Or if it was heads we just wake her up the once  and then ask her the questions, put her back to   sleep, nothing happens on the Tuesday; and in both  cases the experiment ends on Wednesday. So she's   woken up and she's free. And she knows all of this  before the experiment begins, so she is aware that   she may be woken up twice or once depending on  the outcome of the flip of that coin. - (Brady: Tell you) (what, as a recent father, the idea of sleeping from  Sunday till Wednesday sounds lovely) - Okay Sleeping   Brady, not Sleeping Beauty. - (Anyway, okay, okay. On Wednesday she's woken up) - Experiment ends. Now, when I say here ask questions, there's a key  question that we're going to ask Sleeping   Beauty. And the question is we're going to ask  her, what does she believe is the likelihood or   the chance or the probability that the coin  was a head? On the situation she is in at that   moment of having been woken up. So Sleeping Beauty  has woken up on a Monday or a Tuesday, she has no   idea, she has nothing that can help her figure  out which day it is, there's no secret clock or   calendar, she has no idea. She's just woken up and  asked, what do you think the probability was that   we got a head on that coin? And of course the idea  being she could have been woken up on a Monday and   it could be the first of the tails wake ups. It  could be the Tuesday which means it would have   had to be tails or it could be the Monday but it  could have been the only wake up on the Monday.   But because her memory is wiped after each wake up  she doesn't know if it's once or twice or anything.  So that's the question, what's the probability  that the coin was a head? Now there are two   both well-supported trains of thought as to  what the answer to this question is - and I'm   sure everyone watching has their own opinion  right now of what they think the probability is. (Well I'll try and figure it out. She's asked the  question either- is she asked the question when she)   (wakes up as well?) - No not at the end. No no no no that's just- - (Okay so she's asked the)   (question either two or three times? No, she's  asked the question either one or two times?) - Yes (So) (I reckon...oh let me think for a  second. Two thirds of the time) (it was a- I was going to say two-thirds  of the time it was a tail. But she's)   (asked the question. So she's asked  the question twice on Monday)   (and she's asked the question once on a Tuesday; but  she's asked the question less often on a Tuesday.) (So- I don't know. What was the  probability that the coin was a head?)  (Oh,50/50?) - Well valid answer right? Option one,  it's called the Halfer approach to the problem,   is literally I flipped a coin on Sunday  who cares when Sleeping Beauty was woken   up? I flipped a fair coin, it's a 50/50 chance,  the probability of it being a head is a half.   Because if I flip a coin right now it's a half and  the coin was flipped before she was woken up. She   doesn't learn any new information by being woken  up so she just says, okay I've learned nothing   new, I can't apply my Bayes theorem conditional  probability of updating your hypothesis with new   information; she hasn't learned anything new. - (Monty Hall hasn't told her anything she didn't know) - Exactly! But   Sleeping Beauty has no new information because of  this sort of waking up and not knowing anything   and the amnesia effects of the drugs. So she has  no new information; therefore it's the same as   the probability always was: it's a half. That is the  argument for the Halfers in this problem. There is   another potential answer and that is that it's  a probability of one-third - the Thirder approach.   So Sleeping Beauty does not know what day she has  woken up. Suppose we are Sleeping Beauty and we can   say, okay well let's assume it was a tails, what  can I learn in that particular situation? Now if   we got a tails what does that tell us? That tells  us we are going to be woken up twice. Therefore   when we are woken up and asked this question,  having assumed that it was the tails in our   own head, we are like okay this could be either  Monday or Tuesday and they are equally likely,   there's nothing to distinguish between those cases.  So we can say the probability of it being a Monday,   given it was tails because we assumed it was tails,  is therefore equal to the probability of it being   a Tuesday - again given I assumed it was a tail.  It's equally likely it could be in one of these   two situations. Now we have law of conditional  probability tells us the probability of A given   B is the probability of A intersect B divided by  the probability of B. So we can apply this here and   say, so this one is the probability of Monday and  tails divided by the probability of being tails;  and this one is the probability of Tuesday and  tails divided by the probability of being tails.   These two are equal so it doesn't matter what's on  the bottom, multiply through. Having assumed it was   tails, our conclusion we can draw is that these two  things are equal because they're all on the same   side of the equation. So we can say the probability  of Monday and tails is equal to the probability   of Tuesday and tails. Okay, now that was assuming  that it was tails. What if we instead assume it is   Monday. Sleeping Beauty wakes up, has no idea what's  going on, so she's like all right well let's just   assume it's a Monday - what can I learn about that  situation given I'm assuming it's a Monday? Same   kind of idea: we could be either this one, the first  wake up for tails, or the only wake up for heads. So we've assumed it's a Monday so that means the  probability of it being a tails given it's Monday,   this case, indistinguishable from this case.  The probability of it being a heads given   we know it's Monday - or we've assumed that it's  Monday. Same thing, conditional probability law,   tails of Monday, well that's the probability of  tails and Monday divided by probability of being   Monday. This one is the probability of heads and  Monday divided by probability of Monday. These two   are equal, they both have the same denominator  so we ignore it, so therefore the probability of   tails and Monday equals the probability of heads  and Monday. Now we have this equation and we have   this equation. So we've got Monday and tails; tails  and Monday, they're the same thing. In both cases   it's a Monday and tails is flipped. So this one's  equal to Tuesday and tails and same thing is also   equal to heads on Monday. So what we've done here  is actually shown that these are like equal, all   three things are the same, and all three of them  are exactly case 1, case 2, and case 3 of   our original list. We made some assumptions, did  some conditional probability, and it allowed us   to arrive at the conclusion that all three of  our situations actually are equally likely to   occur. The total probability has to be 1. These are the three possible events, they   are all equally likely, their total probability  has to be 1 - it's the law of total probability.   The only solution then is that each individual  event has a probability of one-third,   because they're all equally  likely and there's three of them.   So we say okay, so the probability  is a third for each situation. So it's it's a probability of a third that it's a  Monday and tails was flipped. The probability is a   third that's it's a Tuesday with tails flipped,  and probably a third that it was a Monday   with heads flipped. So what's the probability  that the coin was heads? One in three. One of the   three situations has a head; they're all equally  likely, so the probability of the coin was a head   is a third - and that is the Thirder argument. - (No but there's a change. I think there's a slight change) (there just the last minute. Saying those three  things are equally likely is not say- it's not)   (the same as saying: is it likely the coin was a  tail or a head? Because once the the coin is flipped)   (a whole- whole different paths are  opened up, and different things are)   (done. And it's those paths and things you're  doing the probability of, not the coin itself.)  (So we're we're not- we're asking Sleeping Beauty  not was it a head or a tail but which sort of) (mashup combination of things that happened  is playing out at the moment?) - This is- okay I-   Both of these are valid arguments. Both of  these have supporting mathematical statements   using Bayesian statistics, using conditional  probability; you can argue for both of them   in different ways. Both of them  are accepted by mathematicians,    that is why it's a paradox. Because it feels like- you you can argue successfully for either of   them and you can argue against either of them. Now  there is an interesting extension which might help   to convince you at least Brady, about the one-third  situation. And that's called the Rip Van Winkle   extension to the problem. If we get a head Sleeping  Beauty is woken up once - same rules, same experiment,  but just once. If we flip and get a tail Sleeping  Beauty will be woken up 999 consecutive times. It   is the same setup as we had but instead of being  once for heads and twice for tails it's now 999   times, big old sleep; hence the name Rip Van Winkle.  Now if you follow through the Thirder argument;   or even if you just think about it if you're in  the position of Sleeping Beauty: if I wake up as   Sleeping Beauty there are 1,000 potential events  or 1,000 potential situations I could be in. And   in only one of those possible situations did a head  come up on that coin. So if I'm a betting princess   I am definitely saying that I've got to go with tails. - (Here's- here's the thing though then, that's)   (what I mean about my paths. When you wake her  up you're not asking her: was it a head or a)   (tail? You're asking her: are you on the path that  resulted from a head or are you on the path that)   (resulted from a tail? Because yes of course it's  more likely she's on the path that resulted from)   (a tail because she gets woken up multiple times.  Like if I said to her, every time you're asked the)  (question, if you answer it correctly I'm going to  put a thousand dollars in your bank account) - Yeah,   you're gonna say tails. - (You will say tails because you're woken up twice with tails and you're woken up once for heads.) (So I agree if the question is which pathway  are you on? Yes I'm on the tails pathway. But if you)   (ask, when that coin was tossed on Sunday while  you were asleep, was it a head or a tail? Well-)   But does that not then come back to the question  of- so you could say, which path are you on? And   as you're saying, it's like well clearly I am on  the tails path. So then could I not then say, okay   so you're saying it was much more likely that I  got a tails on that coin? I.E the probability that   coin was a tails- - (No. It's more likely I'm on the  path that resulted from the tail, yeah yeah) And I think- I'm really glad you picked up on this  because that is kind of the the philosophy   extension to this problem. So I- researching this,  like I first heard about this from one of my students   in fact and I just thought it was such a brilliant  niche little problem that just really gets you   thinking. And again both solutions are actually  equally credible from a mathematics standpoint,   but I think it does come down to the sort of like  interpretation of what is it you are actually   asking Sleeping Beauty. The original problem was  written up in April 2000 by Elga, E-L-G-A. And I think   there the original statement of the problem was,  you ask Sleeping Beauty what is your credence that   the coin was a head or like- almost like  what's your strength in belief? So it kind of-   you know, maybe by me using the word probability  is- but that's kind of how it's interpreted in a   mathematical way. But I think the resolution of  the paradox does come from that way of thinking   about what are we really asking Sleeping  Beauty rather than what is the probability   that the coin was a heads or a tails. - (Yeah. Sleeping Beauty would be correct more often if she said tails.) Exactly. But- - (But she's given more chances to  be correct if it's a tails as well. Like the whole) (game is rigged that way. Yeah yeah okay.) - So it feels as though here you would have probability   of being a head, you would say well only one in a  thousand events are going to be heads so I have   like very very small belief in heads. So I'm saying  I think there was a one in one thousand chance   that the coin was a head even though it was a fair  coin, which is just quite hard to- paradox    This episode was brought to you by Jane Street, people  who love puzzles and paradoxes even more than we   do. Jane Street's a global research-based trading  firm and they're looking for bright, curious people   to join their teams around the world. A great way  to start could be one of their internship programs.   Check out this page on their website; there are videos  and podcasts explaining more about it. There are   all sorts of opportunities available in all sorts  of places. Typically an internship can last maybe   10 to 12 weeks? 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