Sky News Breakfast: Ukraine's President tells his people not to retreat

[Music] good morning further action against russia more diplomacy between nations but the conflict on the ground in ukraine intensifies president joe biden has reassured ukraine of his support and promised more funding and in an address to the nation president zielenski has urged ukrainians not to retreat these are the latest developments visa and mastercard have suspended operations in russia credit and debit cards issued by russian banks will no longer work outside the country meanwhile in a 30-minute phone call with president zielenski last night joe biden reiterated his commitment to provide security humanitarian and economic assistance to ukraine while here in the uk boris johnson has unveiled a six-point plan that he hopes world leaders will follow to ensure russia fails in its invasion of ukraine including mobilizing an international humanitarian coalition and all the while the humanitarian crisis grows aid agencies estimate that the number of ukrainian refugees could reach one and a half million this weekend as ukrainian cities face a continued russian siege sally lockwood has the latest on the crisis the world has clamored to show its support for ukraine but on the ground the fight is theirs and theirs alone russian forces are now said to be in control of this military base in the southern city of kersen president zielenski seeking to buoy a beleaguered nation as russian forces advance towards the third nuclear power plant ukraine which we know love protects and will not give up to any enemy also believe me it is a special heroism to protest when your city is occupied even temporarily when you don't have a weapon and in response you receive gunshots and you don't run the battle overhead remains the most contentious issue ukraine claims this video shows a russian helicopter being shot down president zielenski has repeatedly appealed to the u.s and nato to establish a no-fly zone but putin's latest threat that this would be viewed as participation in the conflict has done little to change western leaders minds in a meeting at a polish border crossing with the u.s secretary of state ukraine's foreign minister vowed to win this war if we lose the skies there will be much much more blood on the ground and that will be the blood of civilians and i don't want anyone to share responsibility for their blood ultimately their strength their result their determination backed by uh by the united states and backed by the world is going to prevail a new economic blow to russia this time from visa and mastercard suspending their operations in russia and a fresh diplomatic attempt from israel's prime minister in a backdrop of anti-war protests at home naftali bennett flew secretly to moscow on saturday for a three-hour meeting with vladimir putin then on to berlin for talks with the german chancellor [Music] for people here in the southern region of mariopol escape isn't even an option plans for a humanitarian corridor still on hold after russia violated an agreed ceasefire but israel a country with good relations on both sides could now prove vital in finding a desperately needed breakthrough sally lockwood sky news well british military intelligence says that russian forces were targeting populated areas in ukraine but that the strength of resistance is slowing the russian advance within the last hour the ministry of defense has tweeted this update the scale and strength of ukrainian resistance continues to surprise russia it has responded by targeting populated areas in multiple locations including kharkiv sharnahov and mariapol this is likely to represent an effort to break ukrainian morale russia has previously used similar tactics in chechnya in 1999 and syria in 2016 employing both air and ground-based munitions russian supply lines reportedly continue to be targeted slowing the rate of advance of their ground forces there is a realistic possibility that russia is now attempting to conceal fuel trucks as regular support trucks to minimize losses well about one and a half million people are expected to have fled ukraine by the end of today with poland taking in more than 780 000 refugees so far and that number continues to grow a little earlier i spoke to chris meltzer from the un refugee agency who said this is an international situation and countries need to continue showing solidarity this might go on for many weeks and that's why we're asking for the solidarity um the people in poland but also in romania and hungary and slovakia even in little mordovia that accepted much more than 100 000 um refugees these countries are showing a lot of uh solidarity but we must see this this is not a ukrainian poland and not ukrainian romanian crisis this is at least a european crisis actually an international crisis and that's why these countries um need help and solidarity like the people need help in solidarity let's bring in adam parsons who's in live in western ukraine and adam it was it was so interesting talking to chris there he's a representative from the unhcr who said they've never experienced numbers like this in such a small time frame even comparing it to the rohingya and saying that it was nothing that was nothing compared to what they're seeing now yeah the numbers flooding out of ukraine are absolutely extraordinary i think we will hit that one and a half million figure today that we're looking at about a couple of hundred thousand people a day going out of this country i think you have to put this into some kind of context you're talking about about three and a half percent of the population leaving their own country over the course of just over a week it's an extraordinary movement of people and also that figure doesn't tell the whole story because that is about refugees that's people leaving ukraine to seek refuge in another country there are probably as many people again who are simply displaced within ukraine who have left kharkiv or or kiev or mariappal or wherever it might be in order to seek sanctuary and potentially here in in western ukraine where you are much further from the fighting so the disruption to this country is absolutely colossal and i think interesting hearing that that military intelligence assessment i think we are seeing something play out here which is that bluntly ukraine's armed resistance has been much much stronger and more resolute than the world perhaps predicted and at the same time russia's ability as a super military power on the ground has been worse than we predicted why might that be well i think for one thing ukraine has an enormous army with a lot of reservists and an incredible amount of spirit we were filming over the past day or so outside a recruitment station that the cues going on hundreds of people outside one station replicated across this nation people are queuing up to join to fight and to defend their country at the same time you have russian forces who are using a lot of equipment that is obsolete i think there is a question about morale there's plenty of young soldiers who didn't realize they were coming into a war zone don't particularly uh want to be here and and evidently russia's battle plans are nowhere near as advanced as we expected now let's not be naive russia has some uh enormous weaponry it is continuing to attack strategically important places it's going to advancing on another nuclear power station on hydro facilities and president zelinski in his address last night was emphatic telling his people to fight back at the same time he wants diplomatic efforts whether that is from israel from the united states from germany from the uk what he really wants is a no-fly zone from nato at the moment he's not getting it and he says that is crucial to saving his country adam thank you so much well the west has refused to impose that no-fly zone above ukraine despite repeated calls from president zielenski this guy's trevor phillips has been speaking to kurt volcker who's a former u.s ambassador ambassador to nato and was the special representative for ukraine during donald trump's administration first off uh we've done this in the past we we've executed no-fly zones we've done it over the kurdish areas in iraq for example when sodom hussein was attacking them so we know how to do this there is a protocol for this secondly we make very clear this is for humanitarian purposes only we are there to prevent attacks on the civilian population from the air and we do this over kiev and western ukraine so it's limited geographically we are not coming close to russian borders and we make very clear the rules of engagement we will not be striking any ground targets any russian forces unless fired upon and we will not be striking any russian aircraft or helicopters provided they remain outside the zone uh and if they enter the zone then there's a protocol with escalating uh tactics to to escort them out uh but if they refuse then there would be the prospect of firing on them but many ways to avoid that and i think the russians will understand this as well they might test us but then i think they don't want to draw us into a larger conflict either well let me um push back a little bit on that do you really think that mr putin is going to play by rules that nato has set out he hasn't been interested in nato what nato has had to say about anything thus far yeah i think uh it's forced that he respects its force that he listens to uh not um the the rules that are stated so if he sees that we are doing it and we are prepared to follow through i think he will adjust well let's talk about no-fly zones and we're joined now by former senior royal air force officer air marshal ed stringer ed good morning to you thank you so much for talking to us you you've been involved in no-fly zones um extensively let's just talk you know basics here what is a no-fly zone i know fly zone is where you delineate uh an area of airspace and you essentially say that cannot be used for military purposes what that tends to mean is it can't be used um for for any purposes uh at all but what i would say in listening to that clip i think needs clarifying is this is not some form of benign air policing what you have to do is sanitize that anything that can control in that airspace that would be surface-to-air missiles etc etc radars and so all the no-fly zones i've been involved in have been an extensive operation just to suppress an opposition's ability to control airspace so i think listening to that it would be quite difficult to set these discrete boundaries and say you can do this but you can't do that so it's quite quite an aggressive action that would be needed to delineate that and i've said and keep it clear yes it's an aggressive action it it it is a proper military operation it just happens to be run by people who tend to wear blue uniforms not not khaki ones but it involves a lot of activity air to ground as i say it is not just some form of benign air policing and escorting bad aircraft out of the area and telling them not to do it again so essentially what you're doing here is uh is an act of war and has to be has to be considered that way so if if we were to set up a no-fly zone would that be seen as an escalation because putin has said that exactly that yesterday well i think it will be seen as an escalation in this in this context and i was involved in the nephi zone that was just mentioned in humanitarian one in northern iraq which could absolutely be described as a humanitarian operation against if you like an enemy sedan saying that we had just vanquished in uh in kuwait i think this is a very different geopolitical situation it would also be a very different no-fly zone wouldn't it well yes um exactly and we're up against you know a great military power uh that would be russia so so this idea that somehow we we could carve out areas and call this just humanitarian it would be seen by russia as putin has said uh as an act by nato to fundamentally limit its military uh its military operations and every time that this has been mentioned not every time but frequently the argument is we can't do that because that would result in us shooting down russian planes would that be the endgame of a no-fly zone yeah that that ultimately is what you set up no fly zone to be able to do um and uh with rules of engagement with the congested airspace that that there would be with the just the scale and the range the quality of equipment that both sides would put forward you could see this escalating uh very rapidly into some form of great air conflict over ukraine as i say it would drag in all the ground elements uh uh as well did you have to shoot many planes down in in the no-fly zones over iraq well saddam hussein didn't have much of an it didn't have much of an air force a lot of it had been removed during the gulf war but what he tried to do was use ground-based systems and did end up uh firing at the coalition aircraft quite extensively which resulted in quite a serious campaign to suppress his enemy air defenses which is a technical phrase for bombing his stuff on the ground what about ground-based artillery if you're policing the airspace you're not going to stop those are you no that's the point so you could actually say here you could easily postulate a case where even if your no-fly zone was successful you could be flying top cover and watching the sort of horrendous scenes on the ground that we're seeing at the moment while actually stopping the ukrainians flying their effective drones because a no-fly zone is a no-fly zone so would it be more effective than sending in weapons which is what we're doing now effective in what sense and i can absolutely see and i do sympathise with why zolensky is asking for a no-fly zone because he knows that is nato getting involved in this conflict if you want to talk about effectiveness in stopping russian ground operations then supplying the sort of uh drones and light anti-tank weaponry and similar systems uh on which we've been training the ukrainians now for whatever five to ten years i think uh would help them conduct the grand operation best so given your experience if we were to implement a no-fly zone as zelinski keeps asking us to do that would be an escalation and do you think that would lead to an all-out world war three it would be an escalation uh i suspect it would give putin the out he craves and this he could now craft the narrative uh that this is now nato revealing its true colours and trying to uh attack russia and take ukraine and he would hope that that would galvanize the russian population at the moment must be questioning why it has got uh uh involved in this operation but of course um i i could see why the ukrainians would want it and i could see um you know i can see humanitarian case and i can see how that will become compelling so you could see that there'll be a force of public opinion in the west that would demand that that something will be done but yes it will be an escalation and if putin escalates and given his track record at the moment then there is it is quite easy to sketch a path to a full-on conflict between nato and russia okay marshall ed stringer thank you so much for talking to us this morning thank you well let's talk about what's happening on the ground because intense fighting continues between those ukrainian and russian forces russia was accused of breaking a temporary ceasefire in the encircled cities of mariopol and volnovaca after evacuation routes were set up to allow civilians to escape the fighting in the southwest of the country russian forces continue to advance on the city of mikhail mukholov close to the crucial economic hub of odessa around the capital the governor of the kiev region says russian forces have taken a psychiatric hospital in borodyanka with more than 600 patients inside while north of kiev the ukrainian ministry of defense claims it shot down a russian helicopter near kozarovichi from kiev our special correspondent alex crawford reports on the fight for the capital the russian troops are getting closer and closer to the capital they're now only eight kilometers away with the ukrainian military desperately trying to stop russian soldiers who are pressing into the centre of urban the sounds of street by street fighting and thud of war is a constant inside the town and in the middle of this all there are terrified civilians hundreds gingerly making their way across a bombed bridge hastily patched together with a makeshift walkway most are women and children gripping each other's hands holding their pets close among them too many elderly clasping the only possessions they've managed to grab it's all they have left in the world now there are ukrainian soldiers trying to guide them across they know they're just ahead of the advancing russian troops and the window to get them to safety is narrowing you see that putin attacking children putin attacking elderly people putin attacking women's and this is no any rules of law he is a military crime there's no humanitarian corridor here and no real safe place this is only the next staging post and the sounds of wall aren't lessening instead they're getting louder and following them they're exhausted and spent and often weeping with relief or just glad to be alive they're very stressed tell me quickly are you all right i'm all right was in car and we saw this better russian better he's he strike on us and we his guts now us the russian army is leaving a trail of despair and destruction as it cuts its way through to the capital aerial footage of butcher another town on the outskirts of kiev showed burning vehicles and abandoned russian hardware a stream of ukrainian soldiers emerged from urban looking drained of all energy and defeated it looked like it had been a tough battle those picking up the fight know it will not be easy and some who escaped had hair-raising tails did you see the russian soldiers are they close enough you saw them how many were there what they what were they doing i saw just like maybe two or three people and they were just so i just like right from there i didn't want you to watch it can you work out what they're trying to attack are they attacking everything is that i can ever since they didn't shoot just something special i i guess they shooting everything they see so sorry yeah what have they tied you up with oh my gosh do they they think they think you were russian uh probably yes but we have all documents we can prove that we are not russians we are ukrainians a ukrainian soldier investigates and questions them and they produce their passports any young man not fighting is viewed with great suspicion but he's satisfied they are ukrainians and cuts him free those who fled are now desperately hoping they can reach sanctuary but it seems the russian military is moving relentlessly forward and they're being transported into the capital a few kilometers away where they fear they'll be next inside kiev there's non-stop work to try to shore up defenses and protect themselves amidst increasingly strident demands for international help we are on our own land in our country and we will fight for this country in every town in every city on each street from the each building we are ready and we will fight because we are [Applause] the truth on our side and the gut on our side so we will win they're calling for a no-fly zone but with the world looking on now all they can do is wait for an army they fear will inevitably arrive alex crawford sky news kiev well visa and mastercard are suspending operations in russia meaning credit and debit cards issued by russian banks will no longer work outside the country let's bring in our milena vasilynovic who's in the newsroom for us this morning morning milan so this news breaking overnight morning kimberly yes it's just the latest in the raft of economic sanctions levelled against russia mastercard said that their cards issued in russia will no longer work in their system equally cards issued abroad will no longer be accepted by russian atms and in russian shops and the company did say they didn't take this decision lightly considering they've been operating in russia for more than 25 years similarly visa said that they were in talks to suspend all transactions in the country in the coming days and their ceo said this was due to russia's invasion of ukraine now considering that those two companies handle more than 90 percent of all debit and credit card transactions outside of china this is going to be very significant and earlier on saturday we also heard that paypal also has shut down their operations in the country and it comes after swift that inter banking global messaging system has cut out a number of russian financial institutions from their operations and that will make it incredibly hard to make international payments out of russia or to russia and this is all uh having a really detrimental effect on the russian economy the national currency ruble has tumbled down by more than a third to a record low and the people who are really feeling this are the ordinary russian citizens they're experiencing high levels of inflation long queues in front of acms so they are really feeling this economic pain now the thinking behind these western sanctions is that that will compel russian president putin to get to the negotiating table perhaps some sort of a compromise over ukraine but really so far that doesn't seem to be any sign of that happening at all milana thank you boris johnson has claimed vladimir putin is trying to rewrite the rules of the international order by military force mr johnson has launched a six-point plan of how the international community should resolve the crisis including sanctions and an attempt to find a diplomatic solution he will hold talks with leaders from canada the netherlands and central european countries in london next week our political correspondent joe pike has more the language the rhetoric from boris johnson here is typically tough aimed at vladimir putin and mirroring what we've heard from the prime minister in the last couple of weeks the difference here is where he is saying it in the new york times and it follows those three interviews boris johnson gave to three different european newspapers yesterday in germany italy and in spain papers of record read by opinion formers i think one of course he wants to try and get a broad coalition of support behind his uh response to ukraine his idea of how to respond but also i think in the back of his mind perhaps he wants to change perceptions and improve his reputation he is of course a controversial figure amongst some on the european continent because of his role in brexit and in the us particularly on the democratic side of politics some view him with a little suspicion perhaps because of his relationship with president trump but also uh comments he's made in the past about barack obama and his attitude towards northern ireland all of this is a prelude though these media interventions are a prelude to a week of downing street diplomacy starting tomorrow when justin trudeau of canada and mark rutter of the netherlands netherlands arrive at number 10 for talks then on tuesday leaders of the v4 for central european nations will be in london those are the leaders of the czech republic poland hungary and slovakia no doubt boris johnson does really believe in the role that the uk can play in this crisis and the response to what vladimir putin has done but also perhaps he sees an opportunity to improve his slightly battered reputation home and abroad the premier league has continued to show solidarity with ukraine following russia's invasion jackie's here with me now in jackie football again standing with ukraine yeah football stands together you know is the motto and there were plenty of flags yesterday there were lots of screens with the split ukrainian flag yellow and blue as you can see there on the picture around the ground and it this happened before every single premier league match and it was all fine everybody was observing it and it was all going very well except in the chelsea match against burnley when the fans there decided that during the minutes applause they would chant rowan abramovich's name let's have a listen [Applause] as you can hear they were booed by the burnley fans and thomas tuchel spoke afterwards um he was not pleased he said this was not a moment for other messages we'd do it for ukraine uh there is not a second opinion in this situation we should stand together and i just think he was pretty furious actually that the fans had chosen that moment uh to do that and there was lots of tributes as well in australia um as they woke up to the news the very sad news that shane warne um had passed away and there were people dropping off flowers and beer cans at his statue at the mcg um people are still in shock there in australia there's been some breaking news in the last hour that the premier of victoria dan andrews who offered a state funeral to the family the family have accepted uh the state funeral offer and there'll be more details in the final in the next few days but he will have a state funeral and they will name a stand after him at the mcg um his manager james erskine has been speaking out about the shock they are all still feeling the three children are in complete shock i think they um you know i spoke to them yesterday and again and i think they you know um jackson just said we just expect him to walk in the door this is like a bad dream and uh spoke to simone who was really upset and obviously keith um shane's father is you know a pretty strong individual but you know like everybody he's just shattered they can't believe what's happened it is unbelievable isn't it 52. i should imagine they are all absolutely broken um it was very interesting liz hurley's um messages on instagram yesterday you know absolutely heartbroken and i you know i i did a piece on shane warren's book and you know he dedicates the whole chapter to his relationship with elizabeth hurley and you know she was one of the loves of his life and you know she's absolutely devastated as well it's just all it is all very bleak and horrible news hello again we've got some um a few updates on the russian invasion of ukraine this morning dr ted ross he's the head of the world health organization he has just tweeted and retweeted a who tweet saying that who has confirmed several attacks on health care in ukraine causing multiple deaths and injuries additional reports are being investigated attacks on healthcare facilities all workers breach medical neutrality and are violations of international humanitarian law and then below the tweet you can see there he's tweeted to wh retweeted it saying that who has published six verified reports of attacks on health care in ukraine so that is dr tedros saying that there are serious violations of international humanitarian law taking place also the ukrainian armed forces general staff this morning have said that more than 11 000 russian troops have been killed since moscow launched an innovation of ukraine on february 24th so that is reuters they are quoting the ukrainian armed forces general staff obviously that comes from the ukrainians and it is unverified a day earlier it put the russian casualties at over 10 000. so there's a couple of updates for you um on the russian invasion of ukraine it's day 11 now now hundreds of people gathered in london's trafalgar square which was one of two protests planned this weekend in london with more scheduled around the country today some of those present at the protest describe the support needed for their families and relatives in ukraine who have stayed to fight let's speak now to valeria she's a ukrainian national who lives in london and his family is joining the fight against the russian invasion valeria thank you so much for talking to us this morning how are you and how is your family hi i don't these past days i don't answer that question anymore because i don't know what to say and i don't ask these questions from from the people who are in ukraine at the moment because most of my family is in ukraine most of my friends are in ukraine um and there's just no answer do you specify them yes i speak to them well i speak to some i don't speak to others because many of them are in the army or in a territorial defense unit so they don't have a lot of time to fall many of my friends are volunteering to deliver food to the areas that are now starving because of the because of the russian invasion what areas are those valeria near kiev like buche and erpin these are the suburbs of kiev where the situation is really um really difficult it's back and forth between the russian control so the russian army controls it or not army i don't know who is there exactly but the russian forces and the ukrainian forces and then it's kind of goes back and forth and and there is no humanitarian corridor so the russians agreed to have a humanitarian corridor um then they shelled the humanitarian corridors when people were about to leave the the areas so there was they were not able to evacuate people or deliver anything and so the red cross isn't working because the red cross only works when there are humanitarian corridors but russians obviously are using barbarian attacks on civilians and they're also not allowing people to evacuate or deliver medicine goods and i've been spending my time between helping my friends evacuate newborns from from kiev in european and bucha which is the suburbs of kiev where they have no they have no nappies they have no no food mothers have no milk so this it's just devastating and um and that bombing of the humanitarian corridors that was in uh mario paul yesterday they agreed and then they they went ahead and bombed it so let's just talk about it was not only in mario pal it was in europe as well they they agreed to evacuate people on near kiev but then they started shooting them that was a picture of the collapsed bridge if i'm not mistaken wasn't it yeah one of them yes so let's talk about the um the practicalities of what you're doing i mean you said you're helping people evacuate newborns from kiev how do you go about doing that you're here in london so how do you go about doing that we have what else are you doing we have a lot of networks of different people so i have different contacts of people doing different things in kf either delivering food or delivering medicines to older people or delivering so i have a network of young mothers who are helping pregnant women or women just after birth they're they're helping them trying to deliver um nappies and other things that they may need in the first days so how do you how do you get them to them if you don't mind me asking well sometimes we get them to them sometimes we don't depending on what is happening on the ground um so people there in kiev they they now have a lot of different cars that people have donated to them for volunteering purposes for humanitarian aid or um or needs of delivering food to our forces even um and and i i am coordinating a lot of it because i receive a lot of requests from different people around kiev or even around the country to be honest like i get requests from marupo or from poltava from near sumo because suma is also a hot spot and then i i'm i know a lot of people in different areas as well who are working on those so i kind of transfer that information and then i help with donations and coordinating with donors and coordinating with different expatriate communities in london but also in other countries like netherlands germany uh people are helping from everywhere and i'm just there's a lot of work to be done on coordinating of all of these efforts to make sure that the efforts are helpful it's extraordinary that in such a short time this network what is what it sounds like is a network has sprung up um i want to ask you because we are running out of time here but how do people get involved in this effort because a lot of people will want to do something they'll be seeing what's going on they'll be seeing all those people fleeing and they'll want to do something so how do they yes they can go to the protest but how do they actually provide you with support exactly exactly a very good question so one there is a website which is called defend ukraine.org where you can go and find information on various directions of work including donations humanitarian support boycotting russia what you can do to help kind of cut ties with russia and destroy their economy so that they finally realize what they're doing is unacceptable um and you can also uh go to for example in london there is a ukrainian club and there is also ukrainian embassy in london who both are helping people direct their efforts into the right direction um so that the donations are helpful so that the closer they're bringing is actually something that people need there um and and they have all the other different work streams where they can advise on what's what's the best um okay we're gonna have to leave it there but valeria thank you so much thanks a lot for talking to us thank you president zielenski says that ukraine will receive more starlink internet terminals next week following a conversation with elon musk mr zielenski said in a tweet that he's grateful to the spacex chiefs for supporting ukraine with words and deeds last week mr musk warned that stalin could be targeted as internet is disrupted in ukraine it's the only active non-russian communications system the chinese foreign minister wang yi has told the u.s secretary of state anthony blinken that china opposes any moves that add fuel to the flames in ukraine china has broken ranks with europe and the us on imposing sanctions against russia and called for negotiation to resolve the crisis meanwhile u.s officials have traveled to venezuela for talks with the country's government to determine whether or not they're prepared to drop their close ties with russia the trip is the highest level u.s visits to venezuela since the two countries broke diplomatic relations amid a campaign of u.s sanctions coming up on sky news breakfast we'll take another look at this morning's papers with the entrepreneur kate hardcastle and the presenter and writer matthew stadling [Music] the entrepreneur kate hardcastle and the presenter and writer matt stadlin good morning to you both thanks a lot for joining us kate do you want to kick us off seven pounds a gallon for oil what is it the mail i didn't think we were paid for when many of us didn't see the day when we uh we would see that price at the pumps and obviously fuel and the impact of that cost and the open market and that push for demand that was already happening because of the demand post lockdown has now exacerbated as the world market is certainly challenged with what's happening in russia and the ukraine and whilst this article very much focuses on a call from rac and other bodies to try and do something with the vat rate i think we have to remember obviously the impact of fuel goes so much further it's a key ingredient to most of uh the things we buy the food that we buy the haulage of the food we buy and the goods that we buy so a huge impact for businesses and manufactured goods too absolutely whilst we turn our attention to things like this fuel the cost of living crisis in the uk there's absolutely no lack of understanding from me of the real civilian crisis that's going on elsewhere but this is a real challenging time for so many families we had those headlines just a month ago people having to make the choice between heating and eating this is going to carry on in terms of the cost of living crisis right through and i fear for autumn where i think the impact will be most felt it's so interesting we were talking about the cost of living crisis this is really just not something that we would ever would have anticipated matt it's really going to get hard for a lot of people isn't it yeah there's absolutely no doubt that the crisis in ukraine is piling on the misery for people up and down the country as kate was saying we've already got a cost of living crisis people choosing between heating and eating we've got that huge energy hike i just got my email through this week from my supplier saying my prices are going to go up we've got that around the corner and huge inflation and now because of what's going on in in ukraine because of putin's monstrosity it's going to hurt even more but i think we have to accept that when we're watching children being murdered by the russian dictator we have to take our own share of the pain on this and while we have imposed sanctions it is true to say that europe is still addicted to russian gas and oil and in other words we are pumping billions of pounds a week into putin's war effort because we have not cut off his gas supply so to that extent we continue to be complicit kate what do you think is this something that we're gonna have to act on sooner rather than later the uk isn't as reliant on that but we buy from a world market and that's where the price is born out of and i think we are taking actions you asked me earlier and we were cut short in terms of are we doing enough no one's ever going to feel i don't think that we're doing enough when that bloodshed that everyday terror is piling out all of us are watching on in absolute horror wanting to do everything we can and feeling pretty helpless i think we've got to make sure that the intensity increases day by day and i think what i am pleased to have seen is the stepping up of organizations charities and just people like you and i out there trying to do everything that we can do to support this it's never going to feel enough matt let's have a look at the front page of the sunday mirror a striking picture just one of so many that are coming out of this crisis yeah we've seen all week haven't we the quite breathtaking bravery of people in ukraine that's why i say we have to be prepared to accept pain ourselves and this picture is in the southeastern city i think of military and it went viral yesterday these are unarmed ukrainian civilians facing down russian invading soldiers who are firing into the air and forcing them to retreat and one of the big stories of this war is that russian soldiers i think many of them didn't realize that they were going to war and those that did thought they'd be welcomed with open arms by their fellow slavs and of course that has been very very far from the reality we also know in kerzen which is in the south of ukraine as well as the only major ukrainian city to have been captured by the russians there's also been incredible defiance two thousand people i think yesterday out on the streets and that that extraordinary image of a ukrainian protester putting a ukrainian flag on a russian tank and i was saying in the last hour we've also seen ukrainian farmers literally towing away russian heavy armored vehicles so the bravery of the ukrainian people which has followed the bravery of their extraordinary president kolensky i think this is a this should inspire all of us to do our bit a lot of people have come out haven't they um and joined these protests guardian online they say tens of thousands joined rallies really around the world that's right yes and there has been the public outcry the uh cities like new york and paris full of tens of thousands of protesters many of them raising the sunflower the national flower of the ukraine uh placards reading piece is wanted there is certainly many uh people wanting to have their voice heard wanting to come together wanting to stop the the bloodshed and the terror and i i think that it is for many people not not anywhere near the feeling that they can do enough many people rallying to get donations uh to uh organizations that are gonna try to get those items we've just heard in your last feature the nappies that need to get there the sanitary products that need to get there this is about people trying to do the right thing when i feel they feel incredibly limited in what they can do it's heartbreaking it's heartbreaking all round isn't it matt and kate thank you so much for talking to us and being with us this morning hopefully next time we'll have a bit more i don't know happier news to talk about but thank you so much enjoy your sunday both thank you well coming up in the next hour on sky news breakfast the who confirms several attacks on health care in ukraine causing multiple deaths and injuries as russia assaults continues [Music] [Music] my [Music] you

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Published: Sun Mar 06 2022