Sketch with Peter han

how's it going everybody we'll get started here in a second just kind of setting a couple things up the disk restarts all right okay okay how's it going welcome everyone whoever starting here right now we're just gonna go into a couple things let me know if the audio in the background like the music or the fan is a little bit loud trying to turn it off yeah anyways okay we'll just start right off the bat and as people kind of stream in we can kind of go into a little bit further details of other stuff this is our 10th episode of the session and I'll be answering questions as we go along to answer a couple of already rogue artists in terms of the torso and the anatomy when you're struggling trying to get it into different perspectives and angles the idea is that using is a I guess a visual form that helps you understand how to connect the actual physical thing that you're seeing in observation to something that is a primitive version of it and what we did in the previous stream did fall hand talking about torsos was the use of things like the pillowcase and I don't know if I had that demo on me it might make it easier if I do this instead of drawing the entire thing again to be able to show you just the demo that we had done prior to that may not be here but this is kind of the idea that kind of shows you this concept of using the pillowcase or a sack like a chemist sack and that has essentially a 50/50 situation here which you can then squeeze contort twist and push in different angles of views which can be straight or even slightly crouched whatever the situation is so we use a simplistic form to basically encompass that area of the torso which we would then apply okay so Shahin in terms of gold bugs there actually is a bug that is that comes in a very shiny gold coloring silvering as well - and there are type of beetle that exists in Costa Rica I can't remember the name of it right now if top of my head but I do have a couple samples of it myself we have another quick question see oh the time at the moment for me is 8 p.m. exactly so in terms of what was gonna you know how the strings work is at live sessions usually start around 7 p.m. or a p.m. my time I might be changing this soon in the future because I know there are some people that are asking about these live streams the current moment in terms of the situation of the affiliate subscriber thing so obviously live and talking with you guys anybody can join in but the previous streams of full length that I do have I plan to put up on Twitch but I'll probably only have them be accessed fully to subscribers tip because you know I think the content and the amount of information that's being you know put on there I think you know what I wanted to make sure I control in that way so that's the basic plan I'm going to go about things it's kind of treating it almost like a patreon or people that do join us subscribe we'll have access to all the full-length previous live sessions live sessions that are currently going on right now people will be able to obviously join any time they want to I understand time situation wise is a bit tough for everybody so what I plan to do in the future is that either my Monday or today I plan to have one in the evening for Pacific time and one in the morning or daytime so that people that are international that might want to come and watch if they can are welcome to because I know that the recording is not everybody will have access to them but again like I said it may change in the future to twitch yeah so anybody right now I'm actually streaming on two or three different platforms at the moment one of them is obviously here on Twitch the second one is actually on YouTube and I'm not actually streaming on Facebook as well so I'm actually streaming to three different platforms at one time using OBS so I figured that out and some somebody recommended it to me last time so we're gonna be drawing a little bit and I actually had this little skull that was given to me by a company that there's a lot of anatomy like display models and stuff like that and so they gave me a little skull version of it which has a little magnetic joint which is really cool actually the attaches to fully which is really nice it's kind of magnet underneath it and so from there you know I'm gonna be using this just do demo on this breakdown of skulls whether it's like a human skull or going to let's say how about an animal skull like this one over here we can use skulls like this to kind of give us a basically an observation of something that kind of begin with and drawing from observation or looking at things like anatomy it's not just about just drawing what you're seeing but being able to interpret this stuff to keep you know a basic shape of it but then also to be able to memorize the things as you draw them so I'm going to be using these as a quick example first is our first demo and usually with my live stream that do let's say like a half an hour or now or talk about advices and things that you guys can consider and then of course I'll be doing just a separate drawing off to the side so let's see and again I do apologize if I do miss any questions if I right now because we have more people on right now if things start to keep moving faster I might miss a question so if I miss it's not on purpose you guys are welcome to react again so like I said anytime I feel you feel like I've missed something please repeat I breaking you're welcome to share whatever you like absolutely so we'll start off with the human skull and we'll come back to the animal skull here in a second this is a bobcat and what are using this just kind of white piece of paper the sketch and draw on and I will be using a new pen I'm also going to talk about this new pen that I actually just got I have two different fountain pens here and people have asked me about certain tools that I draw with currently in my classes when I teach I normally teach people where you would have to actually use a fineliner of tool like this one here so the permanence of it you know is something that helps you overcome a lot of the problems of hesitancy of drawing so there's the idea you're supposed to be able to build confidence by committing to the drawing and making mistakes let me turn down the music a bit more apologies so besides pens like this which you can use or which are like Stadler pens fabric éstos this is our teaser brand I like to use personally fountain pens like this one now this one in particular over here on my right is the Sailor brand the Sailor fountain pen which comes in a fine tip I normally use the fine tips and so this particular one if I can scratch see you'll notice that the flow is actually quite smooth whether I'm drawing rounded forms straight lines where the case is pressure you can start to see that the line kind of holds a relatively strong line here but I actually just got this other pen which I wanted to share with you guys this one it made my pilot which is another Japanese brand this one I got on nibs calm it's a bit more pricier the Sailor brands can run at about 130 150 u.s. I know that sounds expensive for a lot of you listening in for the first time but keep a consideration of the fact that you buy it once you take care of it and it could last you a lifetime you buy these over years imagine how much you spend on how much plastic you waste so that's why I favor fountain pens now this one was a little bit more pricier this this particular nib is actually customized for flex so you'll notice it a complete variation of line that becomes a little bit heavier get to flow out just a bit more so you don't want to press way too hard but the lion variants will be a lot more generous using this particular pen so I've just been playing with it we'll see how it goes I'm gonna use it obviously I don't want to press way too hard but you'll start to see there is quite a bit of line variation going on right now thanks for the advice creep upon us I will make sure that is the case because I'm using OBS distribute to restrain channels so if that's a problem well then they'll have to take me off Fillion so I would rather stream multiple platforms then having this whole extra thing so so course hatch has an interesting question you know the fact that you draw without any under drawing doesn't it affect your design potential since most people sketch designs digitally and constantly experiment and try out a lot of things very much true and so when you look at this particular sketchbook you'll notice that these are just straight pen drawings you know whether it's a bug that I studied from and then above that I drew which is like a more character styling inspired by that bug now is this design is a question and it's not because I'm not necessarily giving you iterations or experimentations of proportion or shapes or story this is just a drawing inspired by something that I saw in observation and I just created it so I wouldn't call this a design piece this is more of just a sketch or an illustration or a drawing or a study of an idea right now if I wanted to design this character then obviously the material she doesn't matter I would be using things like digital pens pencils whatever I'd want to use to explore that idea and the concept of the design so the physical materials don't matter at that point more about the concept of what you're trying to create in my sketchbooks because I'm just drawing out of my head and drawing things about innovation I stick to the pen because I just favor that tool it's not the best tool I'm not gonna say that everybody should also use that tool but I preferably you kind of use it because it's just comfortable that way but keep that in mind there is a separation between that aspect of designer processing towards just drawing sketching I da ting you know and just putting stuff on paper the benefit of pen for me again is the idea of building confidence committing to the drawing but you are correct in the sense that this doesn't allow me to then show the many different potential directions of a design right so there's definitely a time in a place for something like that and if I was working on something of a job then I would obviously a place in that kind of mindset let me see a couple other questions and I wanna start to go into the drawing all right I've been trying to transition from pencil the pen seems seem to make too many mistakes be able to be confident enough how do you tackle that well stoked self the ideas a that's the whole point is that you're supposed to make those mistakes and through those mistakes you're supposed to repeat the repetition of that same drawing you're supposed to hone in on the accuracy and more control of that tool to be able to build the confidence towards it so through a single drawing would you be able to have the confidence to do it again maybe but yeah well you have the confidence fully of what you've produced most likely not so hopefully in repetition you'd be able to build it right shaking the gold-bug Pasadena insects are real yes they are question from bostonia is when drilling your fundamentals keeping design out of the picture is it better to draw a head completely reviewing mistakes and try and draw the next head better or is it better to review your mistakes and correct them within the same head and not stop until you can't see any flaws so I think to repeat to redraw the same angle the same exact shot skull whatever you're studying from as a subject matter to correct the mistakes but also to hone in on memory of building an understanding of what you are sketching as well to now that can be kept towards more details or kept very simplistic so I'm going to be using this skull using that same kind of based on that question what bostonia is asking of how you would want to study something like this because I don't want to just draw the details initially I want to be able to interpret what's here in front of me so I want to choose the appropriate angles and choose the appropriate shapes for me personally how it makes sense for myself and then I want to put it on paper and we'll build some more details as we go so let's see sex test when you assess is there any process you might recommend for drawing perspective proportion intense objects like modern sports cars or motorbikes with permanent ink use a marker okay for a lot of you guys that are building your understandings a proportion perspective I know that you want to get you straight pen but I think using another tool to help you bridge gap a blank piece of paper is very scary and using just a pen it can be very intimidating but if you used a marker to help place in general shapes then the pen on top that's what I would recommend rope artists in terms are the comic that will hopefully go on sale online and through potentially other gallery stores and bookstores into the future soon crosshatch I'm not sure what the I know that one you're talking about from proko but I haven't really used that one before this is from a different company a cute dragon in terms of announcing on Instagram I used to but these days I don't really why will I need to obviously but for the moment this time around I just kind of go straight on the stream if anybody catches me they catch me if they don't they know but I should obviously announce more so I'll make sure to do that in the future near as in Scott Robertson's book he talks about sketching ideas of vehicles of aircraft before getting into perspective but in the book his sketch looks so refined it has precise perspective are the sketch is supposed to look like that no because you're talking about someone who's already studied those things for decades so he understands what those things are and if he's just sketching them with you know that without this imperative you know focus on making sure perspective proportion to all really really good because he already understands it so if you were to do that well should you expect yourself to do that also well that's impossible you haven't studied those things within the amount of time that Scott Robertson has the horrify so but the thing is a lot of things I do draw i've studied over and over and over again so even if I was to draw something let's say a bug or a human or a character or a vehicle for the first time I can bring in those fundamentals because I'm used to join those other things to Matias we'll see how it goes in terms of streaming I've been notified that apparently twitch is not favorable to people streaming on multiple different platforms at once if you're an affiliate I guess I don't know about that I haven't read it if it's a problem hopefully they'll notify me and then I'll adjust its no we'll see ultra the amend asks you might have done a video on this before but what fundamental would you recommend for a beginner to learn regardless of the medium in terms of beginning basic shapes of circle square so actually me put those down real quickly to the the primitive core forms that will establish always in to the future and the class that I teach called dynamic sketching encompasses these five core forms so anything that we draw an observation we should be able to construct using these primitive shapes now these ships are limiting though we can only do so much because again they're stiff and so we want to be able to manipulate the shapes to fit better towards things that we see alright so for instance this skull right now the cranial case might be a oval type shape some people use circles some people use although forms egg shapes whatever the case is so that's not a circle for some people so for here I want to be able to manipulate the sphere to become more spherical so you can change augment forms to match up the things that you'll see so you think adapt asks I'm good at drawing shapes now what to do apply them into observation if you know if you can draw your ships really well draw now using those shapes and things that you can see so shaking ass I know your process includes organic shapes but have you tried drawing without organic shapes and drawing only with straight lines so could I draw this skull with only geometric form so instead of organic right we have organic organic could be a blob ish round shape okay let me zoom in on this a little bit more but then we also have the geo the geo forms and the geo forms could be something much more plain old plains right could I draw something like this which is an organic subject matter and something geo forms of course I could now not everybody sees that right but let's try it out well I should play with that danger noodle asks did you ever doubt have doubts over your own passion for art in terms of passion no but in terms of doubts of what I'd be able to make it sure absolutely because there were so many other better artists in me and even now they're artists are far better than I am too but now has over many number of years have those doubts increase No will those doubts always be there to some degree of course I'm only human so I'll always second-guess sometimes things out thou you know my own self confidence every now and again some people may make comments on stuff and you know as people we take things sometimes you know to heart so we want to be better than you know as we put ourselves out there but at the same time even though that may be an aspect of who I am the other side of it decided confidence of knowing what I can do overpowers that so you don't necessarily hide and shy away from those thoughts of insecurities or doubts you embrace them because that's just a part of who you are also so a lot of ways to show hopefully strengthen you because that would drive you to even do more I'm gonna skip over a little bit this just questions are moving fast so what ink do I use the current ink I'm using right now is the Sailor brand ink Sailor okay let's see another question from Shane his thoughts on draw a box well it's great I trained the guy so he took my classes and he's doing what I do now and so he's doing his interpretation of it a fatalist asks have you or would you ever consider releasing the book as a ebook it just seems like the demand is far larger I agree with you the demand is quite large and I can't keep up with in the more order sometimes and a physical book in my opinion is always better but I'm not necessarily against an e-book I think after a certain amount of time I may consider it in the future but it's a-you know the question is something on my mind for sure so what do you think about students that have doubts in their passion well it's normal everybody has doubts of many things it could be about your Drive your future your passion your career choices even just you know the very moments of things and that's okay like I said it's never going to go away but you can find ways to live with it to grow with it Felipe asks what's the best way to learn Anatomy all of those things books models and photo references right now we have an actual physical model reference of a skull of a human skull but using photographs and also then drawing real people are all good things okay so now that I've answered a bunch of questions let's actually just start sketching a little bit I'm going to draw the skull let's do a side view first I really like doing sizes a lot because I want to just do the control proportions looking at the length of the skull the height of it so with this particular section of it people you know we had a question again it's like do I need to always use rounded organic forms for this particular section not necessarily let's try drawing something that's a bit more geo form okay let's take the skull let's draw something much more geometric a shape that kind of represents this cranial area okay I'm gonna use lines to help me control just groupings but also spacing of many things fatalist birds I would love to draw I'll do one next time I've been FRS you know could question how to use dynamic Bible and animation moster animation the ideas that use you need to animate keys and so those drawings initially have to be very primitive to make sure that the angles the the accuracy of those models as you're animating them are true so drawing something more primitive as a basic shape would be very helpful to that side which is what the dynamic Bible is about breaking down primitive forms in terms of istea about the question of where the stream will go right now my main stream live streaming approaches on Twitch so they will be placed on there and if you subscribe you'll have full access to all the previous other streams recordings which are about two and a half hours long each you'll notice this is the basic primitive shape of the skull again we can even go more primitive let's just use a box instead of something that is cut up a little bit let's just go for a box initially box here so here's something even more primitive okay so based on these geometric shapes I can continue to cut this thing apart and even adding things the idea is that we have two words we can really use addition subtraction so based on that primitive shape whether it's a box you can always add more two things or you can cut away things okay so here even with the skull want to continue to now add parts and also cutaway parts once we've got I mean everything here right now is all straight lines okay everything is geometric from this the idea of using straight lines we cannot add curvature so the idea of anything that we draw as let's say we drew the fender of a car classic car and this is what it looks like okay this is a fender of a classic car here's the front hood here's the headlamps here's a ground but this curvature is really hard to draw so what you can do is draw something more blockier you can cut the shape out geometrically here's where the wheel goes and you can add the curvature after the fact so give yourself an idea of where it sits and you can curve things off after that so here even though everything is very Geo I can come back and start to round things off round things off and as I round it off it captures the organic miss of the actual thing which helps me be able to interpret things a little bit faster but the most important thing from this is that I'm able to take something like that and memorize it as a process of how to draw if I took away this skull and I wanted to draw from either my first study or draw from memory I can just recreate that without having to see it because the process of steps of how I began was very simple I started with a box cut then have added to this shape I need a count of 1 to 3 rule of thirds I can start adding like I start subtracting to make it much more accurate as a skull like shape but just to build the primitives of it I don't need reference anymore because I've studied it now of course I've studied the skull many times and I can draw that from memory but for a lot of you guys who just drew it once it may not be enough you might have to draw it several more times right of course things like the teeth are you know very difficult to draw and what I want to put him in there you could here's one of the things you can kind of think about well first think about the scale the drawing if the drawing was very small like this one here to place in the details that I would want to might be a little bit difficult because again it's such a small area to keep it really accurate now if I increase our drawing much larger I will be able to actually have the space to get the nuances in the details of how to actually draw those specific parts now based on that you can also control what you want to draw on what you don't want to draw because the point of this particular exercise was showing you how simplistic the basic shapes need to be to construct the two most important things the shape and proportion so I want to just make sure the proportion of the skull was correct I don't care about these small details because I can do more studies in the future to keep adding that information on let's try a different angle of view let's keep this off to the side for the moment let me zoom out a little bit stoic self building a library through grind it's very much what it is so yes wanna see a c3 drawing larger sometimes okay so don't try to cram in details in a small drawing because it's just not gonna look very good steps days asks in your opinion what would be a good balance of fundamental and Composition design study routine so in this situation the composition design study is also a fundamental now if you're saying a fundamental of let's say the early primitive is a perspective Anatomy shape building observation drawing you know even value color light is all a fundamental those are all things that are you know obviously practice separately but will need to be brought together at some point but those fundamentals have to be used in composition design study routines is also a fundamental so the idea that you don't study one thing and leave it behind like for example we are studying the skull right now and ice and you might say okay I've spent a month studying the human skull I'm done now I'm gonna now move over to studying this skull but the thing is you might treat this as a completely separate subject matter but you can take what you learn from the previous version and apply it to here so the idea is that whatever you study from a month before needs to be brought into the next stages of fundamentals it's not compartmentalized as one thing as to another I'm starting perspectives one month all I'm gonna study value now this month and I'm gonna study composition this month as you separate all those things don't think about the previous lessons you'll forget them and as you forget them you don't apply it and so you have to come back to it again it's like oh man I completely forgot my perspective I forgot my anatomy eyes to come back and retrain those things but the idea is that you're gonna be able to find a balance all those fundamentals together as you continue to move forward into the future okay so keep that in mind it's not easy it's actually very difficult that's why these you know as many people want to do it it's not easy to accomplish it takes um a large amount of time to make sure all those fundamentals work together really well and not you're not gonna be perfect at all of them either I am NOT for sure I'm terrible at things like light and color I wasn't like that I was more of a person of like lion shape so there are other students and I know that focus more on light you know value painting those fundamentals were that you know not necessary different but they had a different focus so some of them didn't draw as much as I did where I drew more but I didn't really paint so again I'm not I don't consider myself a painter i ciass you know you're 16 now and I've been contemplating on one I should start trying to look for work or maybe I should wait until I'm older than start looking for work what kind of work are you talking about see are you talking about entertainment work or are you talking about just working in general believe me you're asking how come the stream is free on Twitch it just is you can watch the past streams but those you have to be subscribed to but whenever I'm live it's free commissions and such okay so you're talking about like freelancing contracting work doing actual art work for other people so in that situation there's never too late I'm not too late never too early either if you have an opportunity that comes your way and you feel confident enough to try do it absolutely for sure do it okay now could that be a full-time job potentially you can grow up to it but you're only 16 so you have all the time in the world to kind of build your understanding of fundamentals while you're also applying them to like actual opportunities of like Commission work small freelance jobs and if people ask you hey can you draw me this character or can you give me this and maybe a little convention why not absolutely if you have fun with it too but it shouldn't be the focus of like a career or work the focus should be learning something because those commissioned in those jobs you can also learn from them too all right let's do a front-end other skull this up a little bit absolutely has Ryan Dylan States do you have a preferred subject matter of the draw I do not I favor the act of drawing more than the singular subjects that I need to you know focus on I think this pen is already kind of running dry because I used it up quite a bit today let me switch over to the other pen again I'm sticking with geo shapes because somebody requested can you draw organic things with straight lines yes you can and right now I am NOT trying to draw the skull realistically I'm just doing a quick study we're gonna be doing a larger drawing in a second here with more details for the moment I'm just going through trying to understand even though I've studied the skull many times again but you should always go back to those primitives be humble in the sense that you always have to learn we learn things again my memory is not as good as most people might think so I have to always go back and retrain my eyes to look for certain things let's do a three-quarter view how can I study color in fundamental ways observation set up lights within certain colors and see how they work on still life do you think art school is necessary I know you talked about this a while ago but I don't know when or what your answer was and I do believe our schools are very important because it's not just about the lessons and techniques it's about creating a sense of networking and community you get to make friends people that you know that might end up somewhere in the future suggestions for good introductory pens something under $75 will be the Lamy LA and why look for the Safari co-equals are great how long do you think people should spend on anatomy and the figure I've been drawing sorry I missed that question I've been drawing the figure in enemy for four months now and kept switching styles so I have to try harder longer than four months for sure four months is just the entry you're only scratching the surface now for if anything figure Anatomy is a lifetime lifetime if you have to create a finished piece of something you never do before do you go about a similar process develop it is or is it always different meaning is there an order in steps you take to bring it to finish yes early study a research sketching you know doing things like compositions multiple multiple thumbnails and then from there approval processes feedback which then goes into the stages at the finish tips on retaining what you learn and affect the practice doing perspective right now what you're doing at the moment mileage keep doing as much as you can that's the only way this snip size is an F F add ETA if you go to my website in our art station you'll find some work on there mostly sketches but you'll find some stuff destroying it from a 3/4 of you now again primitives primitives cutting this thing up finding the orbital socket cheekbone right there mandible area down to the chin these are all basically gridlines or cross contour lines to give you the three dimensions of the shape and just building it okay building blocks now I've just been using straight lines and geo forms let's do something a bit more organic now to a degree to control this I'm actually going to switch pens again I'm going to go to the felt tip fineliner tool question Ryan bill as a smoking marijuana affect one's ability to recall drawing from memory I don't know maybe I think some people might help them because it might relax you if anything else you might be able to absorb information better you never know will you be able to recall it that's a whole nother you know I would say practice try it do I smoke while I draw I don't which teacher has the easy style of teaching Anatomy I heard Bridgman was too technical so which one would you prefer for myself personally I do like Hampton and also Loomis Loomis I like because of the perspective stuff I have never read the book on natural way to draw but I will look it up I've been bar thank you cod asked i'm currently four months into concept art university course is there anything you will highly recommend doing in terms of drawing practice in my own time in that sense apply the things you're learning right now so if there are certain fundamentals create things stories ideas concepts research heavily learn how to just research properly to drawing is one thing painting is another but the idea of being able to also research heavily and being able to understand how to organize information and lay things out and in a path that you can follow for design I think would be a great lesson better the practice with roughs William are you happy with six hours of sleep yeah absolutely alright let's draw now I'm gonna zoom in a little bit more let's draw a little bit larger this time nope it's a skull right here and I'm going to use a combination of shapes normally I like to use much more rounded forms then applying things like planes and which all this relatively lightly at first qapla brow bottom of the nose general construction of the head in place nyan asked my first finger joint session the first time yesterday and I was confused by the gesture drawing exercise is there a right way to draw gesture and what separates good and bad gesture drawing gesture is all about capturing the energy the movement of the figure based on weight gravity but also central lines and also the movement of your own arm the actual expression of the line is there right in a bad way to do it sometimes if you over gesture if you overemphasize line work it becomes busy so it feels erratic so having a sense of control and it's almost like painting in a way where you control the strokes and the amount of strokes they actually use to be able to actually capture you know things like planes or lighting or shadows so gestures not easy but it's important to be able to capture movement so well bogey is kind of the same idea I use it to capture energy and movement sketchy yes I did use the balloonist ring last stream so the question is how do you do how to do what the human form by applying the same balloon and string method but I can't seem to understand how so imagine the idea that right now what I've drawn right here this is the balloon okay so the balloon the string so this is the head this is a spine imagine if I drew the human head as a balloon which is just a cranial shape this right here that's the balloon okay from there I can apply that say the gesture of spine I can even twist the body a little bit but what I drew it was the balloon the string the movement which is a gesture potentially I'm not twisting his body where his shoulders are coming this way and his hips are turning this way okay back to this skull how do you practice better-trained drawing and three-dimensional forms by using the primitive shapes that we just talked about so anything that we look at in observation how do I convert that into something more three-dimensional using the core forms any tips on researching something to learn how to draw well stick to your interests for now from those interests develop also other challenges of things that can be things that you're unfamiliar about stick to things that you actually know in terms of familiarity or even just based interests and because as you break those things down they can be married over to other things in subject matter tie you know in terms of that questioning actually it's quite important the idea of how do you just sit you know it's like physically drawing can be physically demanding much more than you might realize for those of you are just kind of beginning your guyses education or interest in art you'll take it for granted but the idea is that physically drawing is very tough ok it's it's an endurance thing you're sitting there for potentially hours and so if you don't if you're not very mindful of the way you've actually are sitting or posturing you could put a lot of damage onto your body as an example to that I've actually put myself in a lot of physical pain because I would sit there and I would kind of put my head down like this real low and I'll look into the angles of drawing and so I would be kind of like slanted to the side and I'm from years of doing that at Art Center when I was in college I actually put a lot of strain on my neck and I had a lot of terrible neck pains during Art Center it was also from a previous injury but still because of doing that and actually I actually had a crooked neck and the only weight I had was able to solve it or leaving it it was from exercise you know but because I wasn't mindful of it I actually built a lot of bad posturing and a lot of pain in my neck areas because of it I've had to visit hospitals I've been a bit Hilson I'd had to be driven to the hospital from Art Center because I just couldn't move after waking up from sleep and I'd be given like Demerol shots muscle relaxants to be able to just sit there and just be able to gain momentum and movement again it was hard very hard stuff chicken how do I get proportions of drawing rights especially in drawing mechs study actual things organic stuff imagine if I took the skull and you mechanized it imagine if you took an insect or an animal and you mechanized it use those proportions first capture the accuracy of the real things and then push things away you want to great jf in terms of visual library repetition repeat this 5 times 10 times 20 times William I've had other artists Chris criticized my work for being different from theirs so what does any advice for turning random chrism into useful constructive criticism well I don't know if that criticism was valid in the first place just because it's different doesn't mean that theirs is better or yours is worse or yours is better and theirs is worse if it's a if it's a styling thing you have to understand that style is more married to the idea of what you're producing what are you making then the style matters but in that situation it should be more talks of fundamentals potentially they can talk about what this proportion or that shape where that perspective seems off here's how you can correct it but if just telling you because your work is different it's not good that's not constructive criticism that's not very helpful in a way they should be able to tell you well it's different but here's why and here's how you can also think about it this way so in that situation take it from a grain of salt so I don't take it so personally those people that sometimes may not understand how to get proper criticism they can only just talk about what they understand from their own stuff so sometimes the limitations from the individual so it's not your problem okay you're 17 rogue artists question is how would you deal with nudity many of my family coast people feel uncomfortable seeing the anatomy when you draw women and men well it's natural and to understand something you have to see it you can't just guess right and so it's academic it's technical it's through understanding of education and that's what it is nudity yeah I understand that some people in the beginning no matter what it'll feel uncomfortable right you're seeing someone else and then this very kind of weird awkward situation with their pose you're trying to capture a drawing so eventually you will get used to it okay and so what other people that understand what you're doing eventually when they see the application of it the application proves why you have to do that previous stuff in terms of the posture by the way I try to sit with my back straight now I don't hunched over or lean in from one side I'm always square on okay I will recommend that the height of your chair and the table is also a very important thing right now I'm kind of high up looking downwards towards a table I'm not really low to the table but be mindful physically take a lot of breaks please don't hurt yourself over this stuff trust me I've seen people that have long if not lifelong ailments physically because of drawing it's not good so here's one-third two-thirds thirds down here planes so no again deconstructing this skull into planes and shapes we're now going to start to add a bit more details this is a bigger sketch in the drawing I'm now gonna actually add things like placement and the teeth in the situation I'm only gonna really call out a few of them the rest of them will be just rows or shapes long shapes I'm gonna start to make things a bit more organic I'm gonna round things off I'm gonna start to curve stuff you start to see plane changes here orbital suck it I've been apart I'm not familiar with the artists claim about the natural way to draw I don't know what that actually means and only I don't think there's only one way to draw what I'm showing you right now is one possibility of how you can see things but there's so many ways you can draw things because everyone's an individual you all see things differently I say I see a circle you might not I don't see a circle I see something else what the question is it's not about what shape or how you draw things or what method you look for it's more in the sense of like what is the easiest approach for you to actually place things onto the page so if it requires that method this method combining things together whatever that make crêpes the confidence within you to be able to produce things with the speed efficiency and confidence you need I've said already please do so right question things constantly okay let me bring it down a little bit question from Bolinas am i joining anime I am there plans for it but not till end of this year sorry I'm just kind of scrolling through the chat again okay I apologize if I missed a bunch of questions a lot of people are commenting on this the draw box thing what I recommend it sure if it helps you great try it draw a box is individual that you know was a student of mine he took class with me back in the day at CDA and he asked permission from me if he could take that content my content that I taught and there was an interpretation of it and I said yeah that's fine so again I do apologize if I missed a bunch of questions I just kind of scroll down to chat to catch up the current what people are saying so if anybody wants to repeat something if I didn't answer it if it's pertinent please do so if people are helping each other out with answers and questions that would be great for me I will try to get to as many questions as I can but I don't want to necessarily stop drawing either these streams live sessions were mostly just for me to draw just have an opportunity to be able to just sketch cuz I sketch all the time but to be able to just share you know and talk and comment on stuff cuz I'm gonna do it anyways and then you know I post the drawings on Instagram or whatever the case is but I think people like to see how things are actually done you know from an artist's perspective who's worked in the industry and draw all the time great TJ JFS is a better it's better to draw subject from photos or in person there's any different at all so right now we have a actual physical object of a skull if I drew from a photograph is that is one better than the other not necessarily but it can matter based on how you look at it okay by this physical object I can look at it from multiple angles of views I can interact with it I can kind of see how things work okay if I looked at a photograph and you found let's say even just five ten different photographs of different angles of views you still don't have a three dimensions of that object okay it's a two-dimensional picture representing a three-dimensional object so you have to be able to interpret that in three dimensions which is much tougher and in photographs what happens that you just copy the photograph here I can understand the light and how the light works on top of planes and shapes so my mind is focused on breaking things down do you like George Bridgman approach for human figure do you have any preference when it comes when it's about human figure at all I mean yeah I've looked at Bridgman I've looked at Loomis I've looked at you know whole Hogarth's I've looked at you know all these other guys and they're all great in my opinion they all have something that I think can be very beneficial guys I give in Glendale Pooh I think are great the idea is to expose yourself to as many different opinions and methods and possibilities of drawing the something as complex as a human figure as you can that way you you are able to then judge for yourself what works and what doesn't ok so here I'm not starting to kind of block in some of the shadow shapes alright going in there separating some of them inside the shadow forms maybe some of the core shadows here too and I'm just using one simple hatching method to just group them together so I'm grouping all my shadow shapes and I'll use value separation to go darker in some parts again I can use hatching to show plane changes coming back to some of the questions here Danny asks glad to see you again right now the thing right now is that I can draw a good copying from references like studies but when I try to do it from imagination I just can't but most of the problem is I can't imagine anything the draw it's like I don't have creativity and advice it's not the fact that you lack creativity you lack the fuel to inspire your imagination so you should draw more from referencing you should draw more from observation from that take away those references and things of observation draw from memory recreate a lot of things you've seen as you then see many many things try augmenting them but when it comes your imagination the idea is based on things like story function what do you just you know creating it for give it a sense of like context as to what you're drawing and it might give you some ideas okay okay should I use other artists work as reference when creating stylized characters sure absolutely we do all the time in industry we look at and compare and contrast other brands and other styles to see what we want to compare to and what we also don't want to be as well as a student as a young person should you study those just to get a better understanding of how they stylize stuff of course when doing practice studies which is more important aesthetic or accuracy accuracy from their line quality aesthetic purposes of rendering surfacing hatching will come on top of that initial accuracy of proportion and shape this is mystic matron [Music] so be Estonian asks do you do any I measurement accuracy and proportion drills before you start a learning perspective or did those develop naturally for me I would say to be honest it developed naturally over time by just doing it but I also messed it up a lot in the beginning okay so I'm gonna keep sketching here a little bit and I'll continue to come back to some of the questions if anybody can continue to answer any questions that they take think they can help on please do so would appreciate that based on how this session goes because we have a lot of people from different platforms asking questions again depending on the fact that I am engaging enough and answering as many questions I can but if it becomes a bit more overbearing I might just recommend people to jump over to twitch and I might just keep it on there but we'll see we're people listening for the first time there are a couple of individuals here following me on Twitch there are former students or people that have been watching for some time so if they do reply to some answers do understand there's some people in here that you know can be helpful but most everyone here has been helpful so I got I do appreciate that again kind of scrolling down a little bit sorry here's interesting question Helen in town so I've always had an interest in seeking a Korean art but I've been burnt out by bad schools teachers financially emotionally now I'm finding all these wonderful resources online that I'm learning a lot from I'm obviously going to continue drawing is mid 30s too late to pursue a career what do you guys think generally no it's not too late it's never too late the fact is yes you've been burned a little bit by bad education maybe some individuals that didn't really give you a guidance that you needed but you know there's no guarantee by going to a certain school or having some individuals working with that they're gonna give you all the answers of the path and to follow that will help be successful but the fact of the matter is that you can only try right and the fact is now that you have an opinion about stuff based on where you've been to or how you might want to learn or who it is you want to engage with and with more time invested you'll start to get a better idea of what you want to hone in on so now you might think but I feel like I'm spending too much time now time and doing faster I'm getting older is it gonna be too late no it won't be because the industry is not going anywhere okay and the only thing you have to practice and focus on is your ability and skill to become as competitive as possible and it might take you longer than you like but if you're unwilling to commit that amount of time well I guarantee if someone else is but again it doesn't matter what the age is supposed to be because as you apply for work or you start to get opportunities they don't ask you how old are you oh you're too young or too old you can't work here that doesn't really work that way now of course you can be too young I would say but is there too old no aside I will be streaming for right now it's 9 o'clock I started around 8:00 we've been going for how long now about an hour some would be going for another hour and a half or so never too late to start as everyone is kind of stating here awesome okay so you can start to see this skull on developing some of the shadow areas now more just using simple hatching to kind of block in all these elements but you'll notice that the underlying building construction is still there but it doesn't really become as you know evident were in the way and so that's why constructing is so very important that when you let's say you took a class of mine at Art Center it was like basic sketching drawing classes I want people to show me how they built things how did you construct the stuff so you don't want to just show me how you can draw it very you know beautifully or aesthetically because I'm not really interested in that I'm more interested in the beginning how did you start I don't care how you finish drawing you can wait to be made better I can keep practicing and make this drawing better also I'm not perfect at it but obviously with more and more time I start to become stronger more confident whatever the case is so when people take my class they're so worried about the way it looks but I'm not because I am more interested in seeing how you just began what is your mindset what did you think of what were you seeing initially can you share me you know that information as you draw and if you're able to do so your mindset alters a little bit hopefully a lot if anything else how to do networking when you're self-taught artists it's a very difficult thing to pursue I understand as a self-taught artist as you're independent and you want to network and connect to people out there it's like where do you even just start especially if you're in a location where things just don't happen you don't have school you don't have gallery shows you don't have conventions like where do you go well right here obviously right social media online and you might think but there's so much noise I can't stand out I don't produce work that can be shown I don't know how to connect people I'm shy even that can come up right I understand and these are situations that into the future as you grow you'll need to then control so if you stay where you are and you're trying to network and you can go online but it's only gonna take you so far you have to meet people in real life sometimes to put yourself in a position or go to areas where people congregate so maybe you can travel a little bit you might think but I don't have the money right now well give yourself time and build that finance maybe you can take a summer at some point in a year two years visit places like LA or places in you know Europe or places in Asia that do these kinds of you know big events or schools and classes and go to them you know be patient with it and hopefully you can find an opportunity that will pop up for something like that well me by being there well you have opportunities to actually engage with people in person because when you have someone online you don't know who they really are so everybody puts up a guard okay but if you're there in person you get to show who you really are at that point and people are more open to be able to communicate and build a network with you if someone started drawing around eighteen is dedicated to becoming a pro how long do you think it'll take and there's no way to know there isn't I couldn't even you said just give me a number okay ten years all right fifteen twenty take a number you know because each individual grows differently each individual has different opportunities you could be someone who's highly skilled but maybe you just don't get the opportunity I know people like that that are really really good at what they do but they never had the break so do you think it's because he lacks skillsets no it's just life that's the way it works right so hopefully by then giving yourself that you you build up enough skill set you build a good networking by hopefully but putting yourself out there and been hustling you'll get that opportunity that pops up through chance and luck which is a part of the game you know and that's not everything that dictates your success but it definitely is a part of it being at the right place at the right time do I have any direct mental practices like meditation no drawing for me it's a part of that I actually gain energy and enthusiasm through drawing drawing is not stressful it's not supposed to be it should be relaxing but I understand that most people find it very anxious that it builds a lot of stress right because you want the drawing to be something good but it doesn't need to be a drawing there's something else just a personal satisfaction or soar study or you know determined towards a focus of a product but could also be something that you just do because it relieves you right and so no matter what it looks like maybe you're actually can getting that kind of practice also I don't care what this drawing looks like it may not be the best and people have criticism Oh what about that part that part that line whatever okay say it but I would just do another drawing hopefully we'll get better get better see okay sorry it's catching up more to the chat most of my peer artists seem to have an elitist attitude so how do i cultivate relationships in a culture where everyone is then trying to stand out it is and that's unfortunately in your situation mystic matron you're in a position where right now it is very hard in that sense let me tell you the current situation right now the industry is that there's a lot of work out there okay the the possibility of getting opportunities is way better now than it was for us back 20 years ago all right and the reasoning is because there's just that many more projects but there's also the flip side to it it's also really tough because you now have that many more people wanting to do it but now you have the advent of social media and you have that level of competition and it's just so over stimulating so much over information you don't even know where to go anymore right so people are lost even though you see that out there that always people are making it's like what do I do it's like there's so much opportunity but I don't even know where to begin and so you turn to things like Instagram or twitch or these live streams or different different artists and you don't even know who is right or who's wrong or who's good who's bad and then everyone's you know yelling at each other and arguing this is the right way that's the right way you know there's so many opinions now too and then of course not everyone is that much more sensitive when somebody criticizes something you say oh man no I you know I don't want to hear that but then you don't even know how to listen to at that point either right so that's really again like I said envy your position unfortunately what if I had a choice where I want to be a young artist today and I'll be very honest with you no I wouldn't I'm happy I started 20 years ago because you know back then it was simpler we just built a portfolio we found the company that we liked or initially one of the go for we had competition within our friends and colleges and we looked for work and we worked and you know obviously over time a lot of my friends and myself have built up a brand and direction as to what we want to encourage on so do I have to learn things like greedy not necessarily the work because people find me for the work that I do I don't have to necessarily look for work that I had to do for them in their styling so it's it's a huge benefit from my in but it took me 20 years to get there right but for right now for a young artist coming out of school it's it's again like I said it can be difficult because of that aspect networking you know building a work portfolio that stands out having the right mindset and right now it's become a very much you know I mean it's always been that way which is the main mentality what about me but there's another aspect that I feel like is missing a little bit especially in colleges and schools that I feel like is not being taught enough which is being able to work in teams work together because back when we're in colleges we are always forced to work in projects where we had numbers of people together on the project because then you found your strengths you also found your weaknesses you understood where you you had to do what you couldn't do and you relied on other people to help you with that no project in the industry animation and games is done by one person it's a combination of you know all these people from designers to you know storytellers and animators and texture artists and 3d models together to help develop this product to get it out there so when you're saying that I need to be the best and put this Purefoy together to work in this field well you gotta also be a team player you got to understand how to work with people as well too just because you can draw really well it doesn't guarantee you a job either because you can find the person next to the control just as good if not better there are people out there that can draw way better than me but I'm also mindful and knowing how to work with people I can work in teams I know how to criticize how to take criticism so companies would hire me because they know they can develop and work with me in a long period of time but if I can draw really well but if I'm an would they want to hire you if I'm elitist minded or selfish and I said you know I can draw awesome now you guys are suck hire me because I'm the best they wouldn't want to hire you now you gotta work with that person for two years in an office in a table next to you those people wouldn't want you there okay so technical skill only takes you so far that's the idea it only takes you so far and you can always learn more even on the job you only get good enough okay good enough to be competitive to show that you have the ability to continue growing that studio will see it has a potential to see who you are as a person they can bring you in and train you and you'll continue to grow working with people that are seniors above you and then also be able to teach people under you but if you're not mindful that part of the social aspect of it and you're only worried about I just have to learn how to draw perspective really good I gotta know Anatomy really well I just want my drawings to be the best that's the wrong thinking in my opinion those are important but that's not the primary goal so that's why schools eye colleges have the benefit because it gives you the opportunity to work with people when you go to classes like school ISM CG MA all these independent schools that are out there it's good technical information but it doesn't give you the opportunity to work in teams and long runs of times you might have one class you work with some people you never see them again but if you go to a school like a college and university for years you might be with those people you go through the ranks and you also fight a war with them so I'm not saying that going to college is the answer though right because it's not always answer for everyone but that's the benefit of those potential opportunities but you can build that environment yourself even online make good friends make good contacts find work that you like build a relationship be mindful and then you guys can do your own like dis cords you guys can also do your own you know challenges work together develop projects that's a part of it you can do it online too so good question from shammies do you think your art friends motivate us some level and extreme levels the only reason why a lot of us are worried yards because of each other when I met my friends you know 15 what more than 15 years ago at Art Center these are becoming people are not only just lifelong friends but they were also obviously competition but then also connections I know people in every part of the industry you know but the thing is I may not have worked on every one of those industries but I know how they work because they tell me and then I can get inside information I can see how things are running I can see what's popular that can see the trends but they're also just friends right so the college I went to the benefit of it was not paying for the education of the technical information because right now that technical information that you can get much cheaper is just as good as like any university and I would recommend that but the things I wouldn't have gotten is being actually in that trenches you know working with all my friends next to me staying up till 3:00 or 4:00 in the morning every single night working for hours on end developing our skills because now there are people that can turn to that level of connection is priceless the ebony exercise routines for your wrist thumb fingers where the case is I feel like my hands are under more strain these days there are a few things one of them let me get that tool real quickly one second this thing right here is for rock climbers it's called the grit master and you can get them in multiple different weights this one is that X heavy so you put this in your hand to be able to individually strengthen fingers so I use this to you know strengthen grip strength this really helps a lot with the fingers but it also really helps a lot with the forearm so doing any kind of like exercise I think can be really good especially something like this you can get ones that are like Springs on them that you can just crush doing stretches are very helpful too but something like this is cheap I got it at REI for like 15 bucks or something like that I've overlooked a skull so I'm done now here anyways here's a really quick study of a skull form which we started with this understanding organic geo forms breakdown primitives trying to get the proportions building geo forms at the initial start and then pushing something with more detail alright I had not tried crunching sand and rice sounds cool though Sara thank you for such a suggestion I'll try to find out how I would actually do that so I'll figure it out I might even get some people that have been a part of the stream even people that work with maybe like Kevin to help me out modding stuff like this so texture down was something I can maybe apply onto the same drawing okay all right let me adjust the camera a little bit and see where I want this I'm gonna begin with the fountain pen from Danny for learning and improving do you think the student should focus more on creating things from imagination or just focusing on studies and copying stuff in real life well the idea is that you have to find a way to bridge the two things together you got to focus on being able to actually draw from observation but from those observations of things that you look at you have to apply it to drawing from the imagination creating a design let's say right oh I see thank you Sarah this goal is a gift from the company who made it it's I think 3d total I think that's the company somebody was asking about the underside of the skull I mean the idea is the same thing where I'm just drawing basic primitive forms I don't even want to eat this but where you can then actually just construct planes but understanding you've kind of Plano breakdowns is what will help you the most and being with a caption and angle of view again this is a really quick simple you know fast view of it but the idea is that you can always build a simple shape and a plain ol structure that shows you the underside of something or from a down angle view which is this idea the combination of a spherical cranial shape in this front section which is the lower mandible in the front of the face so this one too to these sections is what you'll need to be able to turn around and be multilingual zuv use the model of artis append i'm using right now is the point for fineliner it's a better than only to know the shapes of the muscles in the names well I think you should understand the base the big muscles first and you should know the names of those the small stuff not as much you know in terms of the classes a cheap method and CGM a this this is free can you explain how not to get bored while studying fundamental things like perspective for example every time I draw try approaching it it gets like now I'm bored then I fail at some point and get back to basics oh well that's the thing is that you have to basically be able to be disciplined enough to stick with it yes it is boring the fundamentals but you have to stick with it as much as you can it's a way to make it fun I mean could draw things that are subject matter why is interesting for you that's about it though right but every fundamental is always boring or somewhat strenuous and right not interesting enough let's just get something here I think what we'll do is draw a character like piece using the inspiration of what we saw here maybe even integrating the skull like this one and to some sort of like crazy bone character like thing all right so let's see ok so before I start drawing let me actually just talk to you guys about where my mind is going alright before a sketch what I just told you is that I'm gonna create a character based on something I just studied from I also have this skull if they look at two now people wonder it's like how do you draw from the imagination right it's like how do you just begin well I'm pulling a lot from memory I'm pulling a lot from experiences of things that I looked at read movies whatever the case is this is a Bobcat skull so in my head what I just imagined and visualize right now is some kind of like ethereal bones scale to like character over on this side and another character looking up at him that was the first thing that just came to my head now how did that actually happen well I think a lot of it was a stimulated from things that I've either experienced or seen before that's a part of it another part of it is I imagine this very kind of like intimidating figure a skeletal like kind of like almost like death in a way right so that's where my head was going and so I'm using elements of how we can connect to it culturally but then also maybe story-wise I want to know do a drawing and I'm gonna do like a scale tool almost like Bobcat skull like demon like character over here rising up and there's gonna be another character below him looking up at him alright that's where I'm line what's going right now ready might at the moment where's a good place to buy skull replicas go to bone clones calm this is a real skull all right let's play sin and I'll zoom in a little bit actually so you can kind of see where I'm starting and I do apologize again if I do a Miss bunch of questions but I am now looking down and drawing a little bit and I look back up and read some of the questions again in a minute he's gonna have glowing eyes inside do apologize as the voice starts to get a little bit hoarse as I talk I'm not naturally built to project and speak aloud so when I teach classes Art Center at the end of the day I'm usually spent like my voice is gone because it takes a lot of energy for me to actually project my voice so if it's a little bit faint right now I'll keep trying to project more how's it going again welcome and anybody who was joining right now internationally different parts of the country again welcome I appreciate guys stopping by I'm sure it's early or late for a lot of you but thanks for choosing to spend time here with me and what everybody else where you have a lot of other options of streams or content that you can look at but like I said hopefully you guys have got something from this a little bit for yourself I started this practice of drawing a 10,000 figure drawings and then did it in 50 drawings every day I have learned a lot is it too much of one thing I did no that's amazing if you really did that many drawings fantastic congratulations keep it up as much as you can but don't bring yourself out you know the way I treat these kind of light streams I understand there's a lot of things I could set up here and I know I'm missing I'm probably making things a lot harder for me than I need to but I treat them very much like how I treat my classes where I want to re-explain you know answers I want to talk about things again when people ask certain questions I haven't asked before because it's one thing to hear a reply that's very kind of like standard but I think you need to hear it from the words from the individual who's who said it before because I think it's different and how you take it you know I know some things can be very much just factual information just be like point A to point B but a lot of things I'm also not just about technical but how I just feel about them even if when people ask about tools you knows like what pair you got you know drawing I understand that's a very common question and there are certain facts and things I've applied to you but I don't mind talking about that because I'm I love talking about tools I love talking about technique so that kind of you know different things to look at and try and experiment with because yes I am that much passionate about those things too you know but like I said if for some of you who have asked question if I missed them just try to ask again I don't always catch all of them and some questions I have to either move on from or consider the importance of others as well so IG is Peter Han style he's gonna have his arm up like this you know what he's gonna carry a light right down here almost as if he's guiding somebody okay so a new idea so I had this character with the head coming up with a skull he's gonna be in robes and a bunch of like interesting cultural elements he's gonna be holding some kind of light system and he's have another character here following him so he's almost like he's guiding him through something kind of like the the River Styx character right the boatman let me zoom in a little bit more oh yeah rip meal as you're saying part of streaming is repeating yourself a lot and I'm very much used to that because the classes I teach our fundamental base so I have to repeat things over and over and over again on the lessons of what I'm teaching so you know a lot of my friends tell me is like aren't you bored of that class anymore it's like after teaching it for 10 years dynamic sketching at art center or other places don't you tire up talking about the same subject matter over and over and over again don't you get tired of drawing the same thing over and over and over again and I don't because I like drawing those things but also I find new things about them about how to approach it or the story behind it in the biology the functions the history the culture and it makes me curious about other stuff as well too so that's why I really favor the class that I teach because it's constantly stimulating me with new ideas but I grow and learn from the students too as people see it the way uniquely and how they see it it alters my perspective also so question from tally Mara is do you think one shift by a simple drawing table as a beginner yeah I mean for me personally I'm just using an IKEA table for my computer and drawing surfacing I don't have fancy you know space within my apartment or having all these like drawing tables and areas I even just draw on the couch I've been drawing my bed just sketch anywhere I want to sometimes I'll just step out of my house and I'll go to like a cafe and I'll draw there so yeah it's always something that I'm I'm altering what I recommend something like that to set up for yourself of course if it even if it's just a basic one any location you can actually have a place to feel comfortable just start drawing and creating please what anatomy books do you recommend the study with the dynamic Bible is Michael headlands book an alicorn an e-book of couldn't match for your book hyena unfortunately I don't really know his book in extreme details about any Anatomy book especially either from Hampton I think will be a good study I've shared a book from before it's a bar skate book with more strictly just straight Anatomy barska is the artist and the author for it and that books been around for a long time best way to learn clothing of oaken Samurai is to think of it as planes of shapes that are basically draping around the subject matter so look at real-life setup still live situations okay so take fabric cloth wrap it around things like chairs draw from observations see how the wrinkles and the Falls work treat it like a ribbons thank you guys for supporting answering questions so good luck asks if we can conjure complex images in our dreams why do we need to commit references to memory we really know what the things look like how do we access what we already know you know that particular question is tricky because if you know what those things look like that doesn't necessarily mean you can actually use them in ways for imagination and if you're limited on how much you've seen also you're going to need reference words at some point but then also the memory can fade as you are detailing something you've seen before you might forget certain nuances about it which is why you have to come back to some references or even just practice the fundamentals again but there's the other side of it whereas you are the artist so you can alter and change things the way you want to it's your piece and nobody can argue that so that's also you being a part of a creative and using the things that you do know right so how do we actually access what we already know through constant practice that's I know that's an artist's typical response mileage practice do it again over and over but there's no shortcut at that point it's just we're being able to put yourself in a position to always find a way to practice and apply it to some degree recently bought a Wacom Cintiq 16 but never used I have never used one can you post a video on how to use it so I Stephanie I'm sorry Ellie 74 I actually do have a review on the Cintiq 16 on my youtube channel I met me a real chill figuring out on figuring out how to make sure everything is to scale and properly understanding vanishing points when drawing something always just feels off any tips in that situation again I think using references is a huge part of it thumbnailing so thumbnail multiple pieces to get something as accurate as you can use that thumbnail to then do a larger piece and maintain accuracy okay so to add to what Grimlock is saying it sounds like we have easier access to references and we do our subconscious does that make sense well I would say so I mean here's the thing it's like I don't remember my dreams okay I barely remember them I mean I'll get up and I've I've gotta see my wake up and I don't remember anything I dreamt about I'm not saying I don't dream I'm just saying I don't really remember them you know for people that do dream I'm actually very envious about them because they have so many crazy images and stuff like that and I've talked about this in the stream before but my dreams and if I do remember them are extremely mundane it's literally me dreams of like standing a line at a store you know dreams of like being at a museum walking around it's usually connected to something I did today so it's probably just using memory of experience that I haven't actually gone through obviously but it's the same thing it's just you know stuff from observation things I've just gone through over and over again but references are highly important okay what's an exercise you would suggest to an average artist well being able to just control your tools in a more competent way muscle memory and muscle memory is like just physical exercise constant repetition lines circles shapes being able to control them consistently to produce the same line to produce the same shape over and over and over again where then eventually becomes second nature and you have to sit there thinking about what it is and how you need to do it but your hand just does it how to carry on I'm sorry what's the toughest thing you came to realize in your years of teaching an art center or anywhere else it's a tough question actually it's a good one too but in terms of the toughest thing that came to realize was actually very early on was how do I make what I'm teaching my own thing because when I taught in the beginning this method that I'm teaching right now came from a different individual my instructor my mentor and he taught this for many number of years and so when I took it with him at Art Center obviously I learned a lot and I followed him and and you know taught with him ta for many times and you know it got approval from him to be able to take the class Sal but it was still always his method you know and every time I thought it I thought about how would he say you know explain this what would he draw what would he say in response to those questions so my mind was always trying to put myself in his situation or his place but that's not the way to do it because I am NOT him I'm not my mentor and no matter how good he was or you know like I said as an example to other people he was very influential especially in our area of the community of Art Center he was very popular so after his passing you know all I could really think about was like I want to make sure I do him justice so the people that asked me questions or interact with me feel like I know what I'm talking about right so those were some of the self doubts and and fears that I had teaching earlier on when I was only 28 I started teaching about 28 29 you know this is in 2010 so 10 years ago I'm 38 right now so in my late 20s did I want to teach it didn't matter that opportunity fell on my lap because my mentor was killed so now I have to like take it or don't I can't say no our tenant says hey can you teach his class for us you knew him you knew this process how could I say no right no matter how I felt no matter how it's scared or afraid of you know being in his shoes I would have been so in the beginning for the first year that's how I taught you know it's like what would he do what would he say how would he draw this but people can see through that instantly that students can tell it's like man you know this it shows the insecurities and what you know everyone's being nice and everyone's following along and you know they're listening but that's the same thing it's like in my mind I see it very differently you know but I had to be able to overcome that and the way to overcome it was to accept the fact that this was not teaching what normal d'etat or Hollywood have said things I got an out do it the way I want to do it you know so yes the fundamentals the foundations are what I'm teaching are part of his foundations that he established which I call the echo of my mentor the echo of norm but now this is my class this is how I teach things is how I need to explain it but I learned a lot from that do I still do the thing where I pretend to be the student the first day no not anymore it doesn't work anymore because a lot of the students that come into art center I like 1819 I don't look 18 19 years old anymore I know I look young everyone says like man you look so young than your age but I don't look like a 18 year old you know so I can't just sit down be like Oh where's instructor it doesn't work and everybody kind of knows that Art Center Who I am now so a lot of the students I come in are already like a second thirty years early they already know about my class the only draw or do you also paint or other techniques I do so when I work on actual contract job for companies I actually mainly do digital digital painting digital drawing because change need to happen very fast and usually every year I work on about three or four projects this last year 2019 I worked on an animation I worked on a couple video games a lot of them are still in development so they're under NDA so I can't share any of that stuff but yeah I still work professionally now well here's the thing Typhoo is that I may look young enough now but what Asians you get to a certain age and then you do wrinkled up right like crazy it becomes like the whole Indiana Jones scene where the guys you know drinking from the the cup of Christ the Holy Grail and then he turns into a husk right but you know what though you know that's it's different now because the the Asian people that we see as all these our previous generation our parents and grandparents but my generation us in our 20s and 30s we're gonna be different when we get older we might not shrivel up like our parents did do you do any personal work that primarily has an emotional motivation behind it like an attempt to capture feeling or interpreting a past experience through your art so yeah my recent graphic novel that I wrote and drew poles from my previous experiences from mentorship stew from teaching to authority figures my mentor you know so the story actually does pull from that which I'm very emotionally connected to yeah Norns book is awesome glad you have that now Kurt all the Norns book is called to draw is to see and you can get it on blurb com essentially it's a collection of just norms work when he passed away friends got together of scanned a lot of his work and we just produced an art book it's not instructional but it does have a lot of great drawings in them it's called to draw is to see on blurb calm so I don't know about Sultan pepper here I'll probably lose my hair if anything else I just saw a photograph of my grandfather just recently a couple days ago my dad is in town my grandfather passed away in 1988 a long long time ago and he was already in his 80s so a couple my grandparents were very old but he was bald so I'm pretty sure I will be some of the sub did you get to try the pilot falconer lab oh I haven't but I do have this one which is the pilot custom 912 and this is a flex nib which is really nice actually I'm gonna refill this one real quickly just so I can use it more because I recently just got this pen and I want to be able to use it looks like there's pink in there there's plenty of ink all right let me see if I can get it going again I think it's because I let it sit out with it too long how's it going Matthew do you think beginner artists shouldn't touch digital until they're good on paper no I think you should use digital while you're drawing traditionally they should be used in conjunction come on get the flow let's make your towel you kind of dried out a little bit at the end so that's why okay there we go pocos is no question from the UN gesture joins look like every one of his lines was meant to be and the next line goes perfectly with the previous lines does he have a formula for that not necessarily but let me give you an answer of how that question was given to me from Terada cut to you at errata and i asked him the question of like you know as you're placing down a line how do you know where the next lines gonna go right it seems like it's very natural like you already know where everything is what his answer was very it made sense to me because as he verbalized it that it was kind of the way I felt and how he said it was when he put when he puts down a line the line represents a letter or a word you know it could be a word and each line then it naturally goes together because using words you can form sentences and those sentences can form essays or poems and that poem is the image of what you're creating with the constructs of all those lines so each line just makes sense because those are the words you would use to express something now that takes feeling that takes experience to understand where you need the lines how much you need the lines it's kind of choices of lines because line has variation thick and thin right so when I heard that from tirado's like wow it makes a lot of sense actually I want to put another character over here and I had this really fun little character I drew in this book which is like a little fun piratey character so I'm gonna put him in here also do ideas procreate I do absolutely it's a great program I love the iPad I've used it professionally I use it personally when you say you do animation is a hand-drawn or CGI when I say I've worked on animation I mean I've done the the visual development for it the designs for the animated stuff I worked on animated film was it actually no not last year two years ago now it was all early previous blue sky stuff character design work just early development previous but it's all you know it's all hand-drawn a lot of it was on paper then I moved the digital do I have any courses that I could learn from from dog load I do if you go to my if you just type in Peter hunt style or a station that's my website you'll find a link on Shopify which I'm teaching courses which begin February 5th if you want the person digitize your own personal sketches let's say this one how would you trend transition textures to colors are those two separate questions because if I want to digitize my personal sketches let's say this one I would just scan it I read and then I can just work on in Photoshop I can either draw on top of that or paint it directly how would you transition textures to colors so if you're asking about the textures of the drawing or the textures of the paper because in that sense obviously I would just use Photoshop to just paint on top of the drawing have I used those big Anna's Wacom tablets I have and I have one in front of me which is the 24 HD do you still recommend drawing on chalkboard I'm gonna get one of those and feel that the temporary aspect it helps you a lot to be looser I have a chalkboard right now behind me on my wall I use it mainly for my classes but you know personally do I use it a lot not necessarily but is it a great tool to learn from especially the idea of impermanence of letting go of drawings you can do that here also you know it's like this drawing right now that I'm doing it's not gonna last forever nor is it gonna be the best thing and it may potentially be destroyed I could have dropped ink all over this thing I could even just rip it up but am I gonna feel bad about that not necessarily because it's in my head I've already done it I could draw this for you guys again just like that so I'm able to let that go because I don't hold this close to my chest I'm not saying oh this is the best thing in the world it doesn't matter if it is or not you know it's just a joint because I'm just having fun with it to show you know to share with you guys it's not designed and I'm not creating it for something of an illustration or a final piece it's just drawing for the sake of drawing just have fun and if you can't just have fun drawing well working in the industry will become very jayden for you so this drawing has no intention and purpose of being used for something so you gotta be able to find those moments in time during the day where you can just sit and just draw because you want to not because you feel like you have to wear somebody's there asking you to for a class or requirement or because you're sitting there trying to like you know prerequisite finish a lesson to understand more things and fundamentals without having any of that in place just to just draw you know so show me s have you ever done a drawing you couldn't believe it was you who did it not necessarily because as artists we all can understand that we always have certain things about our pieces that we want to correct do better make it faster you know make it more so no I've never had that experience I am currently a beginner trying to draw figures when I do the same stroke with two pencils 2h and 6b I don't feel the difference in the darkness is because of the technique or the quality of the pencil it might be your pressure but it might be your paper also try using things like news prints or things like something with a bit more tooth of paper don't use anything too smooth when you start literally from zero you did not know how to draw it all but you really want to learn how do you start what mindset should I have was it just being able to begin without having any expectation that what you're about to create has to be something so the idea of perfection or expectations of something right when you just want to draw because you just want to say something visually and that could be something you saw something you have in your head something of a story something of you or your imagination maybe something fun right the idea of looking in the clouds and what do you see and maybe you can actually draw it out very simply when people say to me I can't draw I can only do a stick figure well you drawn a human representation using lines and shapes once you understand portion shape language is that more and more through lessons you draw the human more representational closer to what you see but to be able to interpret and visualize and put on something on the paper anybody can do that same thing for you you know jack lake is which is the idea of you know how do I get back in the drawing after 20 years of break being an assist on and just start just do it without having any this concept of like it's gotta be something really really good you know because that already limits you in your performance so you see how I did that right there let me even just like describe to you like in that very moment what I've just done in this situation when I was about to draw this character with the hand with the sword coming out this way obviously I have stuff right there I can't just draw a sword because then it's overlapping all this stuff so the people be like shoot that's not what I wanted I want the sword right there so I mean I got started over right but I didn't in this situation how do I actually problem-solve this what I thought to myself he's not a very good pirate he's done a very good adventure maybe he actually carries around a broken sword right so I said I only have lived in space like shoot I can't draw a whole sword well draw a broken one because he's not a very good you know I guess fighter or adventurer he has the worst stuff right there was that one character from a movie I saw a long time ago I don't even honest remember what it is but I remember what he had and he had a sword but when he took it out there was nothing in it it was just the hilt and handle I forgot what that was from a certain character I think from a movie this very ethereal character is riding on mists and clouds and smoke and this is how I can close in the image where as I get to the bottom of the page I can use effects to make it feel like a complete drawing I don't like going off the page so I'll use things like this to help me contain it in the page so I think there's something new okay now that I've established everything I need to use metal glow right there I want you have to kind of push some darks and separate some elements now it's just but to go to pen the other one works just fine I think I just let it sit out and dry a little bit too much and because it's such a flex into it I have to kind of push some water through it later on I gotta flush it out it's also brand new so I just haven't used it enough you can see the flow working a lot smooth around this particular pen but because this is extreme flex the amount of ink flow it's not as smooth but that's the payoff of flex pens like this also when I tend to kind of move really fast pens can't really keep up usually when I move quickly I use things like fineliners fountain pens that's why they skip a little bit because I just tend to move a little bit quicker so if I move slower than the line will be a lot more consistent all right let's start to pump some darks into this and I'm gonna zoom in a couple of areas let's start with the main with a character on top some of the areas of the inner cavities I'm going to push the dark a little bit good question in from Sara am i arrogant and for believing I can be better than my peers at art or is that just being competitive I don't think there's anything wrong with thinking that way but what you don't want to have is this animosity or even the one to squish others to step on others so that they can't be successful either it's fine to feel that you can be good if not better than some other people but I think you should also be in the position to help to elevate as well too if you're in the position to do so right there is a dog in the back she is resting on the ground you can hear the little chain jingling every now and again it's a golden retriever name is Cola and she's very old 15 years old as a golden retriever she can barely see she's deaf and she has bad hips but she's living at the last of her lives with me appreciate that Thank You Matthew well the bet already told me that they she's got about five months left based on their judgment I think she'll live a bit longer but she's left lived a good life she's not she wasn't my personal dog she was my girlfriend's dog that was in Asia and we brought her over on the plane as a 14 year old dog and she made it really well but um and the reason why she's over here is because her caretaker had a stroke in Asia and couldn't take care of the dog so they asked if I would take care of the dog because I'd space and I said I would so she's staying with me until her last remaining years or last remaining time this just 20/20 of public here last year most likely we'll be doing more streams in the future the streams will always be free on Twitch I don't know if I'll be streaming on multiple different platforms at once depending on how the the rules are established by twitch I'm not sure exactly there are a lot of things I'm very ignorant about when it comes to live streaming here on Twitch and right now some people are watching me on youtube some people are watching me on Facebook so we'll see how it goes for the future yes subscribers will have access to all my previous streams which are going to be archived and placed up there and all the live sessions like this will always be on Mondays and Thursdays the Monday version will be in the evening Pacific time I'm gonna change the Thursday to be maybe in the daytime so that people international can also watch that too but you know this is just to support you know the things I'm doing because this is a part of my job really my girlfriend yes isn't artists as well she works in animation but I just I want to keep her name protected so I'm not gonna share anything else as to who she is I keep a lot of personal stuff under wraps I don't put it out there on social media people say like Neal's online social media stuff is invasion of private life but to be honest you control what you put out there you know so I don't mind you know putting on my own life out there but I don't put other people's lives out there do you remember the last time you drew with the pen so I did and actually let me just show you the pencil that I've used it's a tool I would recommend you can find them in certain art stores noodle in terms of having a patron or discord I'm hoping at some point soon I just been kind of dealing with so much I just through the live streams but like I said this cord will be great for a lot of you guys to like do your challenges and whatnot but we'll see in the future this is a pen so I've been using recently this is the general pencil company Kimberly this is a 9 x x.b pretty serious actually this is a graphite pencil and I use this one to create let me zoom out a little bit this drawing so this drawing was done with this pencil and so 9b very very dark so I liked it because I want to be able to get those really heavy contrasts and grain and texture and whatnot but this entire drawing was done with this one pencil and this is from a study of Ken miles the racecar driver and based on the movie that came out recently Ford versus Ferrari certain films give me inspiration wanting to like you know go into it and studies and whatnot respect for doing pieces that kind of like um I don't know bring awareness to it we've gone about two hours we're gonna be going about a half an hour more no matter how far I get to this piece I usually cut the streams off at two i 1/2 hours so if I don't get it done I'll finish it later on or not post it yes I did spray fixative Matt how does it feel to have the ability to draw whatever you want well to be honest with you even when I was in school at Art Center I was able to draw whatever I wanted because I would look at the things and draw them and it was very much based on the class that I was taking now there are some things that were more difficult to draw even though I can draw many things that doesn't mean every single one of them are easy you know for me when I was younger landscapes and exteriors were very tough to draw so it took me a lot more time to develop those shots what worked on it got easier even within subject matters and I found human form to be very tough like we would do a lot of anatomy study and gesture studies and proportions and doing graphite and charcoal study figure drawing in general when I was a student it was hard but I can draw a figure but like I said as a student there were some things that were much more strenuous and more time-consuming or more mentally draining because I'd to focus so much and even now you know I would say there are certain things that would definitely push me even though I can draw them there's something that require much more focus than others so how did you learn environments by going outside and drawing real environments you know every time I go like on traveling or a hike so just going outdoors even especially when I was in school during classes we would do landscape paintings landscape drawings understanding perspective as a part of that knowing how to compose how to play with scale where to place details from the front you know leaning towards the back of getting a sense of depth you know using all those elements in drawing you're limited to a line which makes it much tougher in my opinion so with line ink drawing to do landscapes is very hard because you got to make proper choices as to what you want to place in we're painting you know something you have a lot more options based on the fact that you have value color simplistic strokes and planes and shapes and some things can be done with a single stroke where were the line work like if you want to push dark value to live value you got to fill with hatching like this and so it's really tough to balance out those values because of it with drawing drawing is also much more time-consuming if figure-drawing was hard what came easier for you back then things like animals I love creatures I like mechanical things like vehicle shapes the things that weren't necessarily the actual figure it's tough even though I drew characters a lot a lot of them were based on more stylized kind of figurative work but when you're asking like real like representational figure drawing or portraiture I was never really that great at it I struggled to those you're tough has anyone asked up yet about the paper and the sketchbook in front of you this point is it this is from a company called bosner bo e SN e r is a company based in Austria and they make sketchbooks and pencils and tools and all that sort it's a big brand in Europe not really available in the US unfortunately any tips of learning perspective learn the rules of perspective right the basics of the rules do you understand you know the idea of a picture plane being able to establish your horizon line understanding the different points of perspective of vanishing points one point two point three point four point you know understanding how to actually draw base shapes within a plane to make it feel three-dimensional optically using eraser is perfectly fine have ever drawn from Google Maps I have actually that's a great way to draw landscapes use Google Maps bring yourself down to the perspective of the area move it around find the perspective of a shot and draw from that that's great tool only problem is it's all stuck within one perspective of the camera you can't raise it up or go lower it's all one view you know the time right now in the US is 10:00 10:00 p.m. Pacific time sten interns already drawing based on stories that you make before you draw well not really this character I drew before in a previous sketch so that previous sketch that was this one here there was a character they've got pirate and he found like a treasure chest he's got like his crazies you know ghost-like characters around it so did I intend to use his character as I drew this one I didn't I started drawing this character first and because I had that already character established I decided to bring him in so it's all kind of done on the fly asite in terms of you know with your pizza's with color such as like water color and whatnot with the tech series do you hold back on joint details knowing your payment later absolutely not just even tech details but the amount of hatching I'll do right now the amount of hatching I've done it creates a less opportunity placing a lot of watercolor for me so if I wanted a place in watercolor for this one I wouldn't have actually darkened it like this I would have kept it just line like that my univ on asked if a beginner put the maximum amount of amount of discipline and study into the dynamic bible can they get good enough to draw wherever they want sure I mean there's no guarantee that you'll feel 100% confident within a certain amount of time but if it was an unlimited amount of time and you were very disciplined how long it took me when I first took the class at Art Center to feel even comfortable drawing many things about a year solid drawing every single day one year and this is back in art center when I was 23 years old because I went took the class at 22 and I took the class twice and I t-84 it once so I was with my instructor for a year solid drawing in that technique at Art Center only at the end of that year I felt somewhat comfortable can you tell when you know that you are good enough at gesture drawing yes and no you know this is the idea that when you place down lines or shape or indication of details and it just like feels right to you you know it's like that with gesture drawing also you don't get it all the time it's really hard to keep it consistent here's the way to look at it if I did a small thumbnail of this drawing and then I read you it again larger but I really like that thumbnail and the big final drawing came out weird I didn't like it as much what was happening well my initial drawing the thumbnail probably had a lot of good energy but it's really hard to replicate that again exactly it's almost impossible right so what has to happen is that if you do studies or thumbnails and you have a good energy behind it understand that you're not gonna be able to capture exactly what you had but you have to try to replicate it through the understanding that this is independent piece so you have to approach it as if you were creating it for the first time so the thumbnail is a guide it's not something you have to copy there's a dynamic Bible go over some aspects of perspective no because perspective should be something you should know to some degree before really getting heavier into the dynamic sketching approach let's see sorry I'm gonna keep moving forward a little bit with some of the questions just someone from Powell Cortez how do i balance both 3d and 2d mediums I've been using blender a lot and wondering if I should be worried if my drawing from the metals might fade I try to combine both yeah just go back from one to the other sorry that's my dog coughing up do both okay so while you're drawing do other stuff in 3d as well you know find ways to balance your time that you're also hitting many things like I said you shouldn't compartmentalize and focus all your time on just one thing for that entire month or to do one thing and then migrate to another and see if you can actually bridge them together you know as you draw things to dimensionally bring them into a three-dimensional piece cbss when will the dynamic Bible be in stock it wasn't stock I already sold through 30 of them I might only have about 30 more left put up on the store which I may do so soon I'm waiting right now because I have to ship out all those books I'm getting I'm waiting for confirmation for my printer to see if they're shipped so once they've done so I'll restock them you hate cross-hatching but sloshing with ink just feels sloppy is there a sweet spot I think so there are certain artists that I feel have this great balance of hatching but also moving with the ink that one particular artist I would say it's Heinrich clay okay so look him up in terms of his name he would spell it like this clay Heinrich Heinrich clay clay clay whatever you want to say right google him night pal fountain pen I'm using right now as a pilot fountain pen and the model is the 912 you know what I'm noticing right now - is that the fountain pen there's skipping a little bit because I think it's the paper on that smooth paper it was really really good but then on this one it doesn't seem to be gripping on it as well for some weird reason not to keep testing it this is the first time using this pen on this particular sketchbook so I'm noticing a bit of issues here and there in terms of the ability to catch the ink without skipping but on the other paper was just fine yeah stuff like that's happening let me zoom a little bit closer you can really start to see some of the way the work is being done so you see it - skipping a little bit so it's throwing me off in terms of the hatching I'm going to switch it back over to the other fountain pen do I use an eraser sure Baidu pencil joins any brown tone sketchbooks I would recommend yes from the Cottonwood Arts brand cotton wood arts sketchbooks they sell a brown tone sketchbook that I have my students use at Art Center and it's the one that we go to besides that Kenson also makes one as well it's a scrapbook the paper is a bit rougher I would not recommend craft papers don't use craft paper craft paper and fountain pens or help depends our bad combination craft paper and pencil is fine Union in terms of the crabs being very organic and being able to having difficulty breaking them down that is a challenge that is why it's up to you to be able to actually attempt to figure out many different ways to understand the primitive shapes behind it now I can show you a version of it but the problem with that is that you'll try to do what I did but it may not be exactly what you see that's the issue so that's why it requires you to actually do multiple studies but when you do multiple studies also try to use different shapes okay what the mindset of trying to actually understand how primitive you can make that crab you gonna do see a square do you see a diamond you see triangles start with the top view to get the good proportions from the top view then try 3/4 shot I would also recommend extracting individual parts and pieces like a claw a leg and seeing how you would interpret those sections as well you zoom in a little bit the ink that I am using right now is the Sailor brand ink I'm testing out a new ink to see how all that works the Platinum carbon ink is great but the problem is because it's pigment based sometimes I have multiple fountain pens and I looked and sit which is not a good thing to do with that kind of ink I mean it's not gonna destroy it like other pigment inks but still you don't want to do that so I'm looking for more water based inks that still have a little bit of water resistance to them so I'm noticing that sailor ink does it's actually pretty good you have any tips for watercolor brush and ink if you're asking about actual just watercolor the kind of brushes I tend to use are just water rushes in general made by Pentel there are the brush pens that have basically empty housing they can just put water inside of I use that for all of my watercolor paintings any other kind of watercolor brushes you can find are gonna be obviously good too I use the I don't have my watercolors here with me but I use a specific brand you can use ones or Newtons those are great you know lower costs paints but to be honest with you when it comes to stuff like that when it comes to watercolor my suggestion first is maintain a stronger drawing and then from there light washes okay build the layers of watercolor venema asks what do you think of the banana duct-tape art that so for a lot of money in Bozeman and so to be quite honest with you I saw this all over social media Facebook and whatnot but I was confused I had no idea what it was about because I actually didn't research into it I didn't read about what it was and it really didn't pique my interest to want to know and even if I'm ignorant about it and not really quite sure exactly and that's why I don't want to give my opinion because I just haven't looked into it I just saw a banana and saying okay cool must be some kind of art thing which it was our installation and people are I guess up in arms about it because it's I guess you're saying is so for a lot of money but for me whether it did or not I don't care if people are making a lot of money off of it great but I had no actual interest in it so I didn't look into it now if you're asking if that's hard or not I mean it's all within the ID beholder you know it's like I'm not gonna say one thing is it is or is not something you know if someone's going to pay for it and they see it as art go for it's your money no and someone who created it is being successful from it I'm not gonna deny that people not person wanted to do that either for me it's like in the perspective like if someone's successful doing what they're doing they solve life that way great you did it you know keep going there's always gonna be people that gripe and complain and the the so-and-so haters right but I don't really pay attention to it too much do you offer any online courses go to Peter Han style on Google and look for the art station website you'll find a link to classes I will be teaching in February my own classes appreciate that Nick Nick how's it going everyone welcome again your problem is not the artists but it's the people buying it yeah well you know what when it comes to the art field the the people with the money or the market dictates trends and popularity of stuff which again is now dictated by the people who may have limiting experience and also understanding when it comes to creating art or whatever the case is like for instance what I consider you know what I do art I mean if I'm showing you something of design I don't really call it art I call it design process I'm problem-solving something now does it use art forms right and art materials it does if you then ask me then what is art I think art can be something of expression something that you're trying to say a statement maybe now again this is just my opinion I'm not saying I'm right but again like I said if there's no message at all for me myself personally I don't really consider that art you know if you're saying it has to be just only based on the material and what it just looks like for me any monkey can do that you know but if there's a meaning context of something behind it of how you can also interpret it in many different ways that interpretation is something that I think could be led towards the description of an art form right but then there's commercial art then there's figurative art and there's many ways you can like have subcategories on stuff but like I said it's how people also then who are wanting they're willing to spend their money on certain things and you know that argument like is in videogames art right and most people will tell you no but I think it is because video game can also have deeper meanings of how you interpret them you know and that's an expression of something using that medium and that game could look simplistic as pixels or it could be highly rendered like Triple A games so when there are all the generations of artists out there who teach and they deny students from like you shouldn't study anime you shouldn't study games it's not art it's not high concept to me that's wrong you know it's just a different generation I think animations whether they come from whatever country they come from can also be art it can be just as deep if it has to be deep but it can also be aesthetically pleasing if it needs to be do I use any visualization techniques well I'll try to draw from memory a lot sorry Shannon missed one of your questions but uh you know I'll draw from observation and I'll try to recreate it from memory so whatever I looked at and drew it as a basic primitive form I'll try to replicate it again that's one of the exercises I'll have even students do draw from memory one addition to that is when you draw from memory try to actually turn it in your head without actually having seen the physical thing so for instance if I had this skull and I drove from this angle of view and you sketched it and I took away that object now I said draw that skull again but now draw from a different angle having seen it now would you be able to do it that's a tough exercise but that's one that I also add to students exercises and it's very much based on how you study that from the first part they want you Dave if you never use pencil again I think you're missing out on some things I still love pencil I'm not saying you should you know you can go about the way you want to but I think pencil is a great tool I'm just saying each piece that I create has intention and purpose of what tool I want to use based on what it's for but I'm not gonna say that I just you know I also just favorite ink I do but I think pencil can be great especially when I want to use it for something if I do figure drawing like at workshops and stuff I was always use charcoal favorite instructional art books anything from James Carney is awesome star-lord you know it says what bugs me the most is when people put one down on a canvas and call that art yeah I I would agree honestly I wouldn't find that to be a piece of art but I mean like that's where you can argue with me and saying that but didn't you just say like whatever you create as long as there's some kind of contextual meaning or deeper meaning even that could be an art piece and I'd be like yeah I guess I did that is what I said so then wouldn't a piece a dot if that artist was able to express something behind it couldn't be a be a piece of high art well that is the argument of fine art right and that is why I am NOT a fine artist and nor would I ever buy a piece of my art I I'm I'm more technically driven I love drawing I love painting I love studies of forms and shapes and stories so that's where my money will go books and comics and movies and games and illustrations fantasy sci-fi modern or historical anyways it's at 222 right now in terms of how long we've gone I have focused most of my attention on this particular character at the moment I will continue potentially just kind of moving down this image I'll probably hit a few areas in the back dark side here where the light is coming out a little bit probably hit a bit more dark areas out here too but I don't how much I mean I'll go more once we finish with the stream but although YouTube art creatives with same style of art that can inspire us Stan Muller unfortunately I don't really explore YouTube or twitch or social media of any type for looking for art instructions I look for programs like schools and platforms that artists will use but I don't necessarily scour through social media to find who would offer that kind of thing so you know the schools I teach at usually those instructors will maybe go on their own and develop their own stuff so I could recommend some of those people so what I would recommend first is look at the schools so look at places like the concept design Academy brainstorm school school ISM SVS learn new masters Academy these are places that you can go to define the different artists that work there and then look to see if they've actually developed anything on their own so Evan a Mundus son is one of those people too he teaches what school is Imai believe still or with other places but he's a great instructor and also a phenomenal artist for character work and fantastical stuff and historical things he's very knowledgeable and I respect his work a lot and he does twitch streams I believe I gotta follow him I reminds me have you met Jim Lee I have not I would like to and Sarah if you're still here I actually did watch one of his streams and I liked it that was pretty cool it was interesting the same sketch you know he's one of those kind of old-school guys with a pencil and eraser and he just draws something it races it draw something it races it you know and that's that's Jim I really enjoy Jim Lee's old work still his current new work today I mean again I respect him as an as an artist and businessman like crazy but I don't really buy his work these days anymore but I still do well from very much by his old stuff back when he was working on uncanny x-men Punisher war zone man that whole stuff that he did was raw it's too clean now that's what it is so let's see if you have excess Scandinavia there is also the animation workshop and Denmark which has classes and I have done stuff there I've actually done two workshops there a couple years ago and I I loved an animation workshop Denmark is beautiful that school is amazing and I would highly recommend it yeah robo cars I mean again I love Jim's old work because of the fact that there is this sense of energy in the characters and the line work that he just doesn't maintain anymore because he cleans it up way too much I think but I think it also has to do with the person that he worked with as an inker you know the people that inked his line work was different back then so yeah that yeah you know I know you mentioned that Kyra the TV series but do you think a cure is a friendship that should be left alone at this point absolutely I think if she should be left at the masterpiece as it is as the manga and also the animated film for other twitch stream artists look at Evan Amundsen and also look at Bjorn Jiri I don't know anybody else who actually does twitch streams that are my friends personally yeah Barska is BA r sk c ey i believe a good way to use value is about being able to separate objects and forms like this hand if i darken that value on the top and a dark and all that stuff underneath it you will lose the hand silhouette so i want to make sure i darken the stuff underneath the hand more to push the values down to make sure the silhouette of the hand pops out further so I'm framing things using values that help separate things think you shouldn't ow for sharing appreciate that thanks Sarah and Kevin thanks a lot I'm also gonna use the darker Valley to wrap around this character I'm not gonna push him as dark so I want all this dark behind them to push him forward and I'm choosing to do so because that's what I want you to see it's not about is it realistic well obviously these characters are stylized so I'm not really interested in how realistic it looks I'm interested in like is it interesting a story interesting characters setting and I want to make sure I know what I want you guys to look at so many schools in Stoke out do you know of a good school activity in the Bay Area but I don't want to have to sell a liver to afford to do so first thing is I wouldn't recommend the Academy of Art I'll go there I have a had a couple of students that have gone to CCA with relative successful results beyond that there really isn't a lot going on up there in the Bay Area especially when it comes to schools in LA like the constant Design Academy or brainstorm that something like that doesn't really exist up there yeah they're actually used to be a gallery that was started by a bunch of ILM people but that also got shut down too so unfortunately you're a little bit limited in the Bay Area appreciate that green we can have bounced lights lights coming from different directions if I want to but I can just darken this entire area up make it more lit in the front I don't want that light to be intense either it's supposed to be a low light so I'm gonna put a little bit of a backlight here dark up here dark here and keep a lot of this kind of as it is when practicing proportions for accuracy what should I think about should I just keep checking this mass is 2 times height and that mass until I have those relative measurements and ternal eyes yes what you can also do is look for landmarks those landmarks are things you can always find on many many figures obviously and you can use those as a way to always measure stuff landmarks a bone protrusion right so in the head we have things like cheek bone the chin to the brow nasal to the ears like in the body torso we have things like the clavicle sternum end of the rib cage that kind of stuff I think another pen draftsman who I thought was so good with value enlightened because like I said I'm still learning would be Bernie Wrightson Bernie Wrightson is incredible as a draftsman for light value Bernie do you study art from other Pro artists work not so much these days I did before for sure but I would definitely analyze them because I can now internally break them down in my head and visualize and start you know kind of understanding what the artists are doing so do I still study to a degree well I don't necessarily study by drawing their piece I study by looking at it and internalizing I've seen a writing piece in person it was a really the famous series of the Frankenstein it was at a show where Guillermo de Toro had a gallery show and he owns those Bernie Wrightson pieces they're incredible absolutely incredible that guy had such a compelling control of light and value what's crazy about Bernie Wrightson is he's self-taught he learned perspective on his own so for those of you like you know can I do this being self-taught yeah you can there are people out there that have made it very well Mobius is one of my favorites actually let me show you this book I get picked up this is a Mobius book called 40 days I would highly recommend it it's made produced by Mobius their own production and it's a series of drawings he just drew for 40 days and they're masterful and they just random you know just stuff a lot of it just it's his imagination this is world you know he was so bizarre and how he thought but this guy was a master like says what he's doing here it's how he would move with the form what the cross contour how he would hatch how he hatches to move the three dimensions of the shapes amazing book 40 days oh yeah the encou is awesome I mean honestly all of Mobius stuff is crazy good I have another book that it's kind of like impossible to find that because they don't really have it in print anymore we're gonna put it shoot I wish I had it on hand it's the hybrid clay book in the hybrid clay book that I have is from the 1940s and it's a collection of his drawings like a sketchbook and I've seen Heinrich clays original sketchbook to like that guy oh my god his sketches are absolutely insane but I have a printed version of one that's very much like it and I wish I'd just pinned on me right now show it to you but next time yeah Mobius working on many films many many films what is your opinion are rotating the paper to get weird angles and will there be a spring summer class for online courses I will be teaching spring summer and fall of my own classes that I teach through online I'll be having physical classes like Arts Centre CDA going into this spring and the fall not to summer but in terms of rotating yeah rotate as much as you want to I'm not rotating because I'm I know that I'm streaming to you guys and if I kept rotating the paper it would be disorienting to you so even when I draw up digitally I don't rotate the canvas but I do this consciously because I know I don't want to disorient you guys now the 40 days book was actually produced by Mobius productions 234 okay we are now coming down to our last five minutes if anybody has any last couple of questions please do let me know I appreciate you guys all hanging out asking questions great questions challenging questions too and helping each other out I apologize if there are certain ones that I missed or I didn't explain to them my best of my ability again like I said I'm always trying to figure out ways to best communicate and talk about things and share you my own opinions and these are my own personal thoughts and opinions on things please don't take them as direct answers or things you have to do and I'm sure you guys all realize that and I'm sure it's very obvious but at the same time it's always a reminder you're here just to you know engage with me I'm just drawing just for fun so hopefully you guys got something out of it and if you didn't hopefully next time you will and I hope you will find other artists that will give you the information that you need to have to move forward in your career or your focus of education and then if you guys have more questions in the future continue asking I'll be doing another stream next Monday and on the Monday peace it'll be in the evening Pacific time 7 or 8 p.m. but always Mondays and Thursdays I'm planning to do a stream next Thursday I may be off because I'm flying out to Texas I will be in Texas doing going to a bird hunting meet so I'm going with a friend to go check out a bunch of people that do Falcon and bird hunting Eagle hunting and they get together so if they invited me to come out and check it out myself so I just in just a quick question about one of the thumb which fountain-pen do you use our or their fountain pens before drawing no all fountain pens are for either writing or drawing the Falcon pens made by pilot are actually specifically more for drawing look at those those are pretty good give any suggestions on drawing cylinders draw boxes first boxes first find out the minor towards the major axis to be able to draw the ellipse inside tend to be able to get the cylinder inside that shape okay is there going to be a dynamic Bible too there is an extension volume to coming up this year and I'm working on it right now I have to get it done in February at the end of February it'll be published by super Ronnie and that will be out in July which is essentially taking the subject matter that I've already covered in the dynamic Bible but going much deeper into the process I'm flying into Austin I believe but it's not in one of those bigger cities it's in a smaller one outside of it I can't remember the top of my head unfortunately sorry what's the longest break you have ever taken from art in general a couple days weeks months usually days from my entire life days that's it there's never been a period where months have gone by where I haven't drawn that's never happened let alone years a couple days shanky and in terms of the book the book can be shipped anywhere because I ship it from my printer in Korea this latest orders is still going out so the printer has to get back to me I sent in all the orders already so hopefully they will ship in real soon and once they do so place up more in stock soon sorry for the click-clacking with my dog walking across the hardwood floor people asked like all these like random noises sometimes my old dog this is a F yes this is a fine how long do I spend drawing in the day roughly this is the first drawing I have done today and it's 10 p.m. right now I started at 8 so I've drawn two hours today some days I'll draw more some days I'll draw less but what I will tell you is I draw every single day alright so as we've come to this point I will continue working on this not post it soon but it's kind of shows you we began initially with the construction of the skull we're looking at the little model sculpture with it I did you know side views with a couple different angles and shots that these studies here first two talking about organic and geo shapes and then we kind of did a study of a character piece here wouldn't it know so I'm setting up with pirates and I'll continue working on it we'll see where it goes from here and I'll post it later on but anyways and we have a last question from frits last year's study basic drawing and I also do some practice figure drawing week frequently and now I'm practicing using a pen not a pencil anymore am I too fast because I think I can do it well you can always push the envelope but you might have to be very aware of what's happening at the current stage of your work compare and contrast to other people if you notice it's not being up to the same level if not more so you got to backtrack and make sure you hit those fundamentals again more but like I said use all of them conjunction you know it's like continue going back and forth and it's like spinning plates as you have all these things you're working with and eventually as you have less focus on one thing that plate will start to wobble it'll fall once you got to spin and back up again right so you they tend to it you know I've said this before in the previous dreams but here's what I say about from the metals yeah the idea behind fundamentals is that it's a constantly eroding platform if I draw a perspective figure drawing you know shape language whatever the case is those fundamentals all work together but that fundamental constantly erodes by falling apart because your memory phase you don't use it as much whatever the case is so you always have to pack it you guys have to make it stronger so you're always going back to fundamentals constantly all right what would you call this character well he's a pirate and he's supposed to be essentially a guide to something maybe a treasure maybe to some other character maybe to a different world so that's what I'm saying Monday I'll be back on again awesome thank you guys appreciate you again for stopping by and like I said these streams are being archived and I will be putting on Twitch at the moment they're only for subscribers we'll see how it goes in the future if people are very adamant about not wanting that then we'll see what happens but like I said for now I'm treating it like a patreon where twitch people that can subscribe can watch all the previous ones eventually soon I'll put them up there for the moment live sessions will always be free and so come and talk to me and tell me one too thanks a lot you guys appreciate it thank you

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